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1 hour ago, Dessert said:
I’m certain it wasn’t there. There were other mentions of Laurel and Hardy, old movie theaters, etc., but not that one.
For some reason, the episode is not posted to Comcast yet, but it is on the PBS site. The scene at the theatre, when they are on the orange crush quest, goes from Thursday/Morse walking up to the theatre, then cut to Thursday introducing Morse to the counter salesperson. So, the scene is not there, nor was on what I watched last night. I feel less loopy now!
1 hour ago, tljgator said:I remember it, too! I thought I was the one who was going a little loopy when I read all the comments thinking it was cut, lol.
9 hours ago, skippy said:It will be interesting to see if anyone else remembers it!
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2 hours ago, Magnumfangirl said:
This one was so contrived. Morse's random girl was Fred's niece, Joan just happens to work at the advice center, and the underlying political issues; it was all so eyeroll worthy. Like everybody else, I don't know what the cafe story had to do with any of it. I assume they are going to come back to that story.
I was surprised they (Thursday and Morse) were not more concerned about Joan after having a brick heaved in her direction and her place of employment burned down. And she was quite bland about the fact that the building had a major fire -- not concerned about anything that I remember. I still want to re-watch the first episode (last week), but I have no interest in seeing this one again. (Unless someone tells me the mysterious conversation about ye olde tymes at the cinema can be viewed! Right now, that is more of a mystery than the plot this week.) And by the way, Carol pretty breezily moved on to Mr. Movie Star the minute she saw him. That whole side of the Thursday family was a little off-center. Did Fred tell us that another brother had been killed in the war? I know he said that at the end, but there had been so many war references by then, I could not remember if he had mentioned it to someone earlier. It would certainly make him more anxious for his son.
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Just now, skippy said:
I just watched this last night in U.S. and I recall this scene. Am I going crazy? Does anyone else in U.S. recall it?
I did not step away from the screen at all, and just do not remember that!
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You are right, that scene was not in the US version! Too bad, it sounds like a great moment!
1 hour ago, 2727 said:Is this the scene that was missing in the U.S. airing?
Setting: the lobby of the Roxy.
Thursday, looking at movie poster: One for the teens. Emil Vandemar must be 80 if he's a day.
Morse: He's doing some sort of talk here.
Thursday: Proper old picture house. Don't get many like this any more. We used to go down to the Mile End Riverly of a Saturday morning. The threepenny rush. [Laughs} I'd go in first and spring the window in the gents for Chaz and Billy. You ever go?
Morse: Where? Saturday morning pictures?
[Thursday nods]
Morse: My mother took me once. All that screaming in the dark; it's like something out of Dante.
[Thursday scoffs]
Morse: Well, I couldn't hear the film.
Thursday: You don't know what you're missing. Couple of maroon cartoons, the serials. A western if you're lucky. Tom Mix. Mind you, my favorite was always Laurel and Hardy. "B-I-itme. Bit me!" [Laughs]
[Morse looks uncomprehending]
Thursday: It's gone now. Buzz bomb got it.
Thursday: Look, about Carol. Don't feel like you have to show her around on my account.
[Morse stammers]
The conversation is interrupted when the assistant manager comes in.
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I also was very distracted by Carol's very plumped lips -- she is so young that I assume that is just her natural lip shape, but the glossy lipstick was a poor choice, which just focused our attention on her lips.
4 hours ago, Ms Lark said:It's odd, but I was more bugged by Carol's appearance than anything! She wore red earrings to match her coat collar, not her outfit. Her outfit was yellow and back then, red accessories with yellow was what my mom called "ketchup on scrambled eggs." A fashion no-no. Also, her bloated trout pout was not even "a look" in those days. I found her to be miscast and very poorly costumed. Glad she left town.
Have seen two retro detective shows this week with attempted murders by celluloid film fire! A rerun of Father Brown and this. Not one of the best, pretty lame murder plot. Did like Thursday and Joan's reunion, at long last.
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6 hours ago, Anela said:
I need to look up freeform, and see if they're doing their Harry Potter weekends. The last I remember was in March.
I thought they had lost the rights to show the Harry Potter films a while back -- and the rights now are going to SyFy and USA .
My only real point was that I was so surprised that the farewell of Harry and Petunia was not part of the film, because I did not know Freeform had shown it as an extra. I thought it was part of the theatrical release. I love the scene.
6 hours ago, ursula said:Her resentment of Harry was always plain (in the books) - he was a "freak", the same way as Lily and that 'dreadful boy'. She was ashamed of Lily and resented having to bring up a child of hers who would also turn into a freak. I mean, kudos to the movie adaptations for trying to add layers to Petunia's character but those layers simply don't exist and/or have any support for them. Petunia and Vernon were always written as black-and-white villainous characters. Their treatment to Harry - locking him up in the cupboard to squash the magic out of him - have conversion therapy analogies for a reason.
3 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:All true. But if you remember book 7 her shame was also fueled by envy. She called Lily a freak, but if you remember in the flashback in book 7, her younger self wished that she had magical powers too, and she even wrote to Dumbledore begging him to let her go to Hogwarts. When she found out Lily and Snape read her letter, she was furious and acted like she never wanted to go to school with a bunch of "freaks" anyway.
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Huh, the first post in this thread, from the British airing, mentions that Thursday was reminiscing about going to the cinema when he was young. Did we see that? I did watch the entire episode, but don't remember a scene like that.
The red letters in the credits spell out: "RIVERS OF BLOOD" -- a speech made in Britain 50 years ago, vigorously arguing against racial integration and inciting strong reactions on many sides. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/13/world/europe/bbc-rivers-of-blood-enoch-powell.html
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6 minutes ago, Browncoat said:
It is powerful, but it is also out of character. If Petunia was so fond of Lily, why didn't Petunia defend Lily to Aunt Marge? Why didn't Petunia treasure her only sister's only child? Petunia didn't "lose" a sister when Voldemort killed Lily, Petunia threw her sister away when Lily went to Hogwarts.
But I do wonder if the Dursleys ever returned to Privet Drive.
It is possible to have a deep love-hate relationship with a sibling, yet still miss that sibling, which is what I got from the Lily-Petunia dynamic in the books and movies. And we don't know what Petunia knew about the night Lily was killed, but I got the sense that Petunia somehow blamed Harry, if only that Lily died protecting him. Petunia might not have understood all that happened with Harry's parents, but even so, Harry represented both a burden in the household and a reminder of loss. Petunia was not a well-balanced personality, but she could still feel the loss of a childhood sibling. And her resentment of Harry had several layers -- his intrusion into their household and his part in the death of Lily (clearly not his fault, but again, Petunia was not inclined to understand the intricacy of that).
I suspect that there was nothing to prevent the Dursleys from returning to Privet Drive. It was less than a year from their departure (end of July) to the battle at Hogwarts (May), so the condiments in the refrigerator should still be good...
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I was catching up with the movies before they left HBO (today!), and was stunned at one of the deleted scenes in "Deathly Hallows, Part 1". It is the scene at 4 Privet Lane, when Aunt Petunia and the other Dursleys are preparing to leave their home, on one day's notice. It has always been one of my favourite scenes in the movies, and it was my last stop of favourite scenes in going through the films. BUT, it is not in the HBO version; I guess I had always seen it in the Freeform presentations of the films (which I miss!). But that moment when Harry and Petunia both connect over the loss of Lily is extremely powerful, even though Petunia cannot remove her resentment from reminding Harry that "you didn't just lose a mother; I lost a sister." And you really do have to sympathize with her distress at standing in the empty living room and asking, "just like that", she was expected to leave her home of many years. I never realized that long scene was not part of the theatrical release. It is such an important scene to understanding Harry's family story.
On 4/23/2018 at 11:00 AM, jennifer6973 said:I think they show the theatrical presentations, and Freeform added in the deleted scenes that were extras on the DVDs.
On 4/21/2018 at 11:22 AM, Browncoat said:Has HBO always cut little snippets here and there? I thought they showed movies uncut/unedited, but I noticed a few tiny scenes missing from Chamber of Secrets just now. Probably not noticeable if you haven't seen the movies 49 billion times, though. The one I noticed was when Harry and Ron, still partly under the influence of Polyjuice Potion run out of the Slytherin Common Room -- they did not encounter the real Crabbe and Goyle as they do in the real uncut version.
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Rachel said a couple of times last night that the Senate only needed to hold off on a vote for four months. But this same Congress is in office for two months after the election. So, although there are breaks in the schedule, it's half a year until new Senators are in place -- if that even makes a difference. That's a long time to stall when you are in the minority. So is four months.
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Rachel, unusually, was a call-in guest for the first ten minutes on Nicole Wallace's mid-day show, to talk about the Supreme Court retirement and to analyze the political realities on both sides. They talked about how the Democrats might start to become more like Republicans in terms of playing hardball on nominations -- while acknowledging that as long as they are in the minority, the Dems will not be very effective. Rachel said that "tactically, it will be kind of fascinating to see if Democrats have it in them". Nicole said at the end that she will be watching tonight (which means Rachel will be on the air, yes! -- I was concerned that the call-in meant that Rachel might be away, whew), and said that Rachel is her "air traffic controller". Ours too, Nicole.
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12 hours ago, meowmommy said:
It was you. Thing 2 aired here and was exactly what you thought...the health code violations at Merde-a-Lago, as well as other Drumpf properties. And a scathing Vanity Fair review in 2016 of the Trump Grill.
Aha! They did include Thing 2 in the repeat of the show at midnight.
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This is a great analysis of how Rachel is dealing with the various threads of Avenatti's portfolio, thank you! Suomi also, and TexasGal have made insightful contributions on this dynamic.
8 minutes ago, attica said:Avenatti understands (at least I'm assuming he does, he doesn't strike me as un-canny), that Rachel's show is the jewel in the lineup. He wants to appear on TRMS to maximize his own visibility. But Rachel doesn't want to cover the Stormy story, at least not in the name-calling way that Lawrence likes to do (that's not an insult, I myself enjoy a good Lawrence lambasting). So he found a way to get booked onto her show with the Stormy stuff, (Suits liking his presence? Why not!) and she tried to find a way through the material that was more her speed. MA, used to the back-and-forth rough-and-tumble, was knocked a bit off his game by Rachel's approach, and he retreated to friendlier waters.
But again: he's not a nitwit. If taking on reunification clients is a good career move (and it seems to be), it gives him a way to appeal to the kind of story Rachel does like to do, and in the way she likes to do it. He's a race car driver! Does he need more than one spin around a course to learn its pitfalls? Probably not.
That all reads pretty cynically. I don't necessarily mean it to be so. I think we are at a point in history where good, important work can get done by people who also like the limelight.
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2 minutes ago, Medicine Crow said:
He's always come across to me as extremely confident & competent. Just sayin'.
Yes, me too. I would not watch him every night, but he is like wasabi, a welcome bracing addition periodically, but not on everything.
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23 minutes ago, meowmommy said:
It was you. Thing 2 aired here and was exactly what you thought...the health code violations at Merde-a-Lago, as well as other Drumpf properties. And a scathing Vanity Fair review in 2016 of the Trump Grill.
Well, that's just weird. I'll try to remember to watch the midnight repeat for "Thing 2"!
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50 minutes ago, chitowngirl said:
I have never seen Endeaver, but this looks like a show I would like. Would I be able to follow things if I start with this episode since it’s the beginning of the season?
There are two main layers to the show: (1) the crime of the week, which generally requires no background knowledge; and (2) the multi-year relationships that go back across the past four seasons/series , and forward to the "Inspector Morse" series of the 1980s, which is this character in his final decade. I think you can enjoy it as a "crime of the week" show; but it would take watching the first four seasons of "Endeavour" to understand how all these characters have grown together and grown apart over the 1960s. (And if you ever watch "Inspector Morse", you will appreciate where some of these characters end up in relation to one another.)
29 minutes ago, Anothermi said:It doesn't require knowledge of the past to enjoy watching it. That just helps getting full value, and you might find yourself searching out the earlier series.
I would recommend searching out the previous seasons first. This is a prequel to a British Series based on the books of Colin Dexter and starring John Thaw (RIP). That series (as they are called in Britain) started in the late 1980s.
There are tie-ins to that show, but not ones that would require watching IT first. However, this series does create plot lines and episodes that make more sense if you can remember what has happened to the characters in previous episodes and seasons.
That said, it just means you will miss out on the nuances of character development, but there are lots of posters here who might help fill in those blanks. Some posters haven't watched the Morse series and some didn't even like it, but they are enjoying this series.
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2 minutes ago, Medicine Crow said:
Please refresh my (old) memory. Did Rachel have a problem with him in the past?
Several posters here thought she was somewhat dismayed by his brashness. (and by "dismayed", I think I remember "disgusted"; and by "brashness", I think I mean alpha male 'tude)
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I saw the first segment , when she said that "the attorney" for the facility child-care worker (who had taped the child in the facility) would be on the show. But she never said his name. I was surprised to come back in the room and see Avenatti! Yes, he was more subdued, and it felt appropriate.
8 minutes ago, TexasGal said:I liked that Avenatti was so much more subdued discussing his new clients. Rachel seemed to be more receptive to him too.
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What happened to "Thing 2" on the show this evening? There was "Thing 1" about Trump criticizing the Red Hen restaurants, and instead of coming back in 60 seconds, there were TEN commercials, and we never got "Thing 2"! (at least, not in Seattle) -- I assumed it was going to be about the health inspector reports on the Trump restaurants. Seriously, TEN commercials -- I only noticed the number because when we got to the third one, I went, huh, this is no 60 seconds, and then started counting the rest. Did MSNBC get taken over by bots for a few minutes?
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Thursday really deserves an apology from Joan -- she is acting like she has been away at a girls school instead of being kept by a married man. I don't think Thursday knew she had been pregnant, but Morse knew from the doctor at the hospital after the accident. Joan really does not have the high ground here when it comes to recognizing how precarious the world can be, which is the environment Thursday lives in every day. I am glad to see Mrs. Thursday doing so much better than last season, when I thought she would need to be hospitalized for her breakdown after Joan disappeared.
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The red letters in the credits spell out: ARTEMISIA GENTILESCHI -- this is the artist of the paintings in the book Morse was looking at.
I also was wondering why Morse was in Strange's flat -- even if he had to move, why not get his own place? Maybe that will come.
Now, the game of figuring out the scenes that were deleted for the U.S. viewing. I think they must have entered Eve's flat initially in the full-length version, because she said later "I'm not common, you've seen my place, you know that." (or something like that). All we saw was Morse and Thursday going up to a grim-looking door, so I had no idea what she meant until we saw the interior of her flat later.
Ah, so good to see these characters back again. And six episodes this series! The whole episode only took four days, from April 1 to April 4 (when Martin Luther King Jr. was killed).
So, am I right that it was an actual Faberge egg? And they just were forging the provenance documents to ratchet up the price? And they waited over 20 years to bring it forward? If I heard right, they got the egg in exchange for helping some refugees? That part of the plot was kind of murky to me. Why not just sell the egg, which was already worth a lot, and not mess with the false provenance.
2 minutes ago, magdalene said:That was a great start to the season. This show is so good at racking up the tension. Getting you emotionally invested. And sometimes it flips your emotions on a dime. I spent the whole episode being afraid of a brutal killer, only to to totally transfer all my sympathy onto said brutal killer in the last few minutes.
The female lead in this was so good. You could feel her hatred and loathing of men vibrate through the screen.
Yes, I was a little concerned for Morse when he was wandering around Eve's flat toward the end -- had to keep reminding myself that there are five more episodes, plus, you know, the whole Morse series to come, so he would survive somehow.
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3 hours ago, Medicine Crow said:
I noticed Seattle is his regular back-drop on The Beat, so ...
Thanks, I never get to see The Beat, so did not realize! I listened again to the start of Rachel's Friday show, and he did not say anything about location.
Oh, I see he is from Seattle, with parents still here.
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4 hours ago, attica said:
Geez Ari honey. Rethink using the makeup and lighting team of where ever you were last night. You looked like late-night Richard Nixon with those shadows on your mug!
Was Ari in Seattle? I just noticed the backdrop when I went to look at the shadows!
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3 hours ago, Medicine Crow said:
That was a painful interview to watch. That guy was relentless & Chris could barely interrupt.
I am watching the repeat and even with the horrors of the past month, I have not wanted until now to reach through the screen and scream at that congressman. And the "y'all can eat shit" grin at the end was the turd on top of that steaming mess. That was terrible. Chris should have stopped after ninety seconds.
3 hours ago, meowmommy said:Another exhausting interview of a brain-dead Republican congresscritter. This one was primaried out earlier this year, although he's a staunch Trumpette. I have a feeling Chris had hoped there might be some honesty because the guy is a lame duck and therefore should no longer have a political ax to grind, but all I heard was this idiot's memorized talking points running over Chris's attempt to ask him questions and get answers actually related to the question. Finally Chris gave up and moved on because he realized he was getting nowhere. I don't know why either party to the conversation even bothered.
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I've seen a lot of old Dodge Darts -- never such a spiffy one! Good catch! From the episode (they certainly gave it a loving shot!):