Sincerely Yours

Nobody said it shouldn't be. Just reminders that Beth was on the playing field too. Throwing gutter balls and all.

Sometimes people say fucked up shit. Even to their kids. I'm just glad the courts aren't involved every time I go off on my son. Or show my aggravation with him. Yup it happens sometimes. I ain't proud of it but sometimes that damn human part of me gets away from me and I shout a little too loud and say a few too many curses. By the time my son is in his twenties I'm sure he'll learn what he's "supposed" to think of his childhood. I cringe at whatever labels will be waiting for me then. I can only hope he remembers the 85% sane mother he grew up with and doesn't consider the 15% "Pyscho" as him being raised by wolves or something. Fingers crossed. Now this is a thing of beauty. LOL. Doesn't nullify it just pointing out that Beth is a grade A bitch.

What about that Beth was a bitch throughout that trainwreck? Or was it ALL Jason? I just don't buy that Jason was the only person in that mess who did EVERYTHING wrong. Beth being an innocent gal in the whole thing doesn't jive either. It might work for others but.....

Thing is they aren't in a relationship. This is part of the reason they got divorced. I'm not saying that it's cool to not be nice to each other but sometimes people can't get passed the reason WHY they separated and still focus on it which causes more conflict. The reason you aren't together is because you didn't get along. It didn't work. It turned ugly etc. etc.. Some never grasp the fact that NOT being together is the end goal. Not that everyone involved has somehow figured out to be all cute and cozy with each other. That just ain't gonna happen with certain couples. If the ex exhibits behavior that annoys or triggers that's when you go "Welp, this is why we aren't together anymore". It's not an excuse to retaliate through the things that DO still tie you together. The relief from whatever negative binds Beth felt she was in should have been alleviated through a divorce but instead a divorce wasn't good enough. It also had to be a tug of war with Brynn. I do think Jason is veering off track and getting reckless and inappropriate but I believe that it wouldn't have even gotten this bad had Beth not heartlessly decided to fight Jason about custody. Had that gone amicably I could see the divorce show down not going down the way it is. All the character attacks that were used in order to try to win full custody, which she unfairly and unnecessarily requested, set the stage for the rest of the ugliness. At least that's what I believe. Beth's "hell and torture" might have been over with by now had she not taken to such ugly measures in the beginning. Maybe Jason calling Beth Bernadette is half insult and half how he truly feels about her. She shares how horrible he makes her life. Him expressing the same is par for the course. It's an all around shame is what it is.

Wait is this going to be a real thing. Lisa Rinna is enraged because Yolanda was having lunch with Kim and Brandi? No seriously! So the fuck what, who the fuck cares? Who the fuck is lisa Rinna to even be on this ridiculous crusade and to top it all off it was between Erika and Yolanda anyway. Fuck me! That women is just batshit crazy is u ask me. No sense what's so ever. SMH!

Wait it has? It seems that really isn't the case at least not for everyone. I for one still believe she had Kim's best interest at heart and some still maintain that they believe this was a big part of Brandi's intent as well. Guess it isn't as unanimous as all that.

Just when I thought I couldn't fall any further down the rabbit hole... now it's about California's laws about what constitutes assault and battery? Contractual obligations and who is really in control of the comings and goings of an actual person/persons? Put a fork in me I'm done.

The initial debate was actually about Kyle being wrong to put her hands on Brandi. All the rest of this comes out because in order to defend Kyle in that one moment there's this disjointed connection being made with the hijinx throughout the night by Kim and Brandi and Kyle being justified in putting her hands on Brandi. For me, I challenge that thought process. The one where because Kim's an addict and Brandi's "trash" that this automatically makes what Kyle did okay or at the very least justified. I can agree with it being understandable but justified or even provoked? That's a stretch that my integrity won't let me get on board with even though I can see where it would be easy to do so. It's shifting into so many different directions that we are back to who's bad, who's good, who's more this that and the other. Alls I know is, that little moment between Kim's parting words and Kyle flopping down those stairs was a complete fail on Kyle's part and maybe one minute before Kim was at fault and 2 minutes after Brandi was deplorable but in the moments in the hall it was Kyle that was exhibiting completely heinous behavior. They all acted out at different moments and it all extracted not so nice reactions.

Of course it was. Kyle's default position as Kim's long suffering sister dictates that she can prolong uncomfortable situations, demand to have talks at the worst possible moments and put even more of a spotlight on her sisters "odd" behavior in front of an audience. Kyle distress usually HAS to be humored no matter how ill timed it is. Ever notice that? At a table full of guests? At a party? In a limo? At poker night? How many times has Kyle found it necessary to call Kim out on something in some of the most public of situations? I mean sure Kim's a mess but hells bells does Kyle never let an opportunity to shine that light on her slip away. During the last season Kim was on Kyle passed the torch and towards the second half of the season the newbies took over the task of bringing shit up over and over and over again in pretty public settings. Uggghhh. It's so contrived. Maybe the incidences aren't contrived but what is contrived is the part when they ignore the natural instinct to either deescalate or be discreet in favor of giving the cameras something good to film. I do believe a lot of stuff happens naturally its just when it gets to the place where you can see where the decision is made to NOT put a pin in something and to prolong a situation. That's what I call bullshit on.

I don't see anyone absolving their inebriated behavior? Things seems to be getting unrecognizable and jumbled. Seems to me that Brandi and Kim's bad behavior throughout the evening is disjointed with regards to what is actually being debated. The physicality of Kyle towards Brandi. That's it. Kim being high, Brandi being drunk and obnoxious, the awkwardness of the evening does nothing to change that things becoming physical was just plain wrong. Nothing leading up to that moment justifies Kyle putting her hands on Brandi and she did so very aggressively. There's no getting around that. Be happy she did it, root her on for getting up all in Brandi's grill. Hey, Whatever, but there's no way to spin it that turns it into something other than what it was. Not to mention that for the most part Kyle pretty much got away with it and add insult to injury Brandi was the one to take the blame for it cause ya know tampon string (thanks jinjer) LOL. At this point things are just spinning all over the place from going back to when they were at the table playing cards, to when Kyle was in the bathroom with Kim, when Kim had those parting words with Kyle. All these details that, yes contributed to the tone and the vibe of the evening, but to me were still behaviors that didn't warrant such a catalyctic outcome. So referring to their obnoxious behavior throughout the night seems very disproportionate to Kyle's very volatile reaction that in and of itself isn't very defendable if you ask me. When it comes to the moment where Kyle put her hands on Brandi, for me all of that other stuff doesn't really factor in. Sure the night was rocky, things were happening, emotions were tricky but nah, come on, those few seconds between Brandi and Kyle. Different level, ridiculous leap from aggravating and annoying to physical and unjustifiable in my book. Hey it happened, okay, I can roll with that too but Brandi and Kim being obnoxious in no way excuses Kyle's bad judgment in that moment. Nothing wrong with admitting that Kyle did something bad that night. It happens. Acknowledging it doesn't negate the years of heartache and pain Kyle's endured over the years due to Kim's addictions. That's my take on it anyway. Cleaning up her mess on the Van Pattons floor? Are we talking about the pizza that flew out of her hand because KYLE yanked her back? First off it's funny how that's put on Brandi and proves my previous point about Brandi taking the blame for things. Second, is that really being added to the long list of Brandi offenses? That she didn't go back and pick it up? Considering what was going on at the time is that oversight really that surprising?

Awesome! This had me in a serious fit of giggles...Loved it!!

Welp!! A strong case was building momentum in defense of Kim. Time to break out the tar and feathers.

What we do know is that one of these ladies lives has spun completely out of control. In plain sight. There's no "who knows" about it. This woman is spiraling full speed into her own grave. Interesting how stretches of the imagination are introduced as well as suppositions made in order to absolve, minimize or express understanding for Lisa R's behavior with Kim but point out all the true, verifiable and at the least highly plausible contributors to Kim's current condition and they are considered unacceptable "excuses" or misplaced and aren't exactly relevant to current matters at hand. Considering the magnitude of what we DO know of Kim's life vs. what we DON'T know about Rinna's as it stands now...? For me, simply put, Lisa R can just put a sock in it at this point.

Perceptions vary. No one direction completely defines. Projecting or no projecting. Speculation will always be a part of the equation as well as seeing actual footage in different ways so even referring to aired items doesn't necessary confirm any one position. But one things for sure there is way more to Kim's addictions than reality tv, social media, and headlines could ever shed light on.

"Definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results" ~Albert Einstein I think this sums up the Kim Richards phenomenon. And I think this has been and will be the case for decades.

True. But life's not fair.

But once she was aware what Erika's sentiment was and apparently didn't agree with it she could have countered with with her own opinion and continued to say what she initially was going to say. She didn't necessarily have to keep Erika from saying it but if she was so "loyal" to LVP at that time then it's curious why she didn't even utter not one word to the contrary about what she believed LVP is about once she realized what Erika was expressing? Besides Kathryn isn't even claiming that was her reasoning anyway. Her very mature explanation of what happened pretty much amounted to "you expected it not to be repeated? Um that's on you".

Friends who gossip. What an unforgivable offense. ;-)

Maybe Kyle shouldn't be so invested in Kim's friendship with Brandi. That can only lead to bad things and the sisters have enough on their plate as is without continuing to harbor ill will over lesser offenses. It's the pissing contest that gets these girls in trouble time and time again. This need to acknowledge and mend any and all slights big and small is continuous and they keep getting in their own way. They need to stop squabbling over the peas and get to the meat and potatoes but instead they derail into offenses that just aren't what they should be putting their energy into.

It seemed to be everyone's responsibility last season. Now that was some heavy handed NON-enabling I tell ya and very rough to watch I have to say. I would chalk those attempts up as a "what doesn't work" intervention. Cringe worthy.

I'm curious, was that the focus of that meeting? I didn't think it was. Where they supposed to be having some deep resolution talk or was it supposed to be what I thought it looked to be which was 1) a tentative visit to build from the fun they had together recently 2) A segment to be filmed for Bravo which I expect isn't the time to really get into it hence Kim's comment and 3)a lead into other guest appearances from housewives past. It did not seem to me that that arranged meeting was meant to be anything other than a brief touching base on their issues as well as a welcome visit with each other after not seeing or talking to each other for so long and not some lets get right down to the meat and potatoes theraputic, solve it all talk. IMO, bringing up Brandi was just heavy handed, risky and unnecessary in that instant. Also the way she brought up Brandi, it wasn't even with any clarity. It was just some nonsense about twitter and pictures and pretty much expressing her disapproval of Brandi displaying her friendship with Kim so blatantly which all in all isn't such a huge offense in itself. Now, if Brandi's name would have come up in a way where Kyle is expressing that she's still hesitate and put off by their whole friendship and it affects her ability to be close to her sister then that's one thing but that whole high school, "who does that" approach? Come on. And it didn't really go anywhere either. Kyle just wanted to let it be known she's not happy with Kim over it. (which No Duh does it really need to be said). Speaking on it that way is just more damaging than not. Just leave that sorta stuff for the group therapy they so definitely need.

But that is a good piece of advice and Kim was dead right to say that because they really can't have the discussions they need to have around other women who we've seen, including Brandi, insert shit and make things worse. Point being that it's probably better for their relationship with each other that they don't try to have personal and deep conversations with each other around anyone else that would feel the need to chime into the discussion. Whether the women actually outted her or revealed anything isn't the point they still did insert themselves within conversations that first off shouldn't have been had in public and were very sensitive. I think that was the point she was making. Kyle tended to bring a lot of discussions up at very inopportune times during filming. Now whatever her reasons were at the time I am not going to dissect I'm merely pointing out that Kim's assertion that their conversations with each other would be better off away from outside influences during this very fragile point in their relationship is a pretty accurate and smart approach to take. Bringing Brandi's twitter up doesn't negate Kim's very good point to keep outsiders out of their conversations. Kim didn't say that Kyle couldn't have her friendships she just said that for them they need to keep their relationship to themselves at least until they can get passed some of the hurdles. Makes sense to me.

Yolanda: Kim: Doesn't want to dredge up old things because they are "not healthy". Well, any decent therapy teaches addicts that they need to address past indiscretions in order to face up to them, take accountability, apologise to those they have wronged, etc before they can heal and become healthy, and have healthy relationships, again. Bullshit Kim. I'm always curious. Why do we take these sort of approaches as gospel? I don't believe this is a blanket way to handle ALL addictions, ALL addicts, ALL families. etc. etc. I think this approach is tricky when the addict also has things they feel they need apologies for. I mean I hate this idea that an addict has to waive everything that's unresolved with them in order to make other people's issues with them more important to resolve before being able to get what they need to move forward. I find that a hard recipe to follow. There's obviously some hurt on both sides but it always seems that the first step is supposed to be Kim blanket apologizing before it's her turn to receive the apologies she's after. Not to mention, there doesn't seem to be any promise that Kim will get the resolution she needs from these people but it is required she give them resolution by atoning. I get it I get it she's been bad but so have her sisters so I feel that a lot of Kim's push back has to do with this idea that she has ABSOLUTELY nothing to be upset about when in fact she does and all she gets is a bunch of 12 step generic check list jargon that isn't molded to her particular set of circumstances. . I just think that for Kim to truly have a chance at healing it isn't a journey for only her alone. Yes her addiction is hers but the factors surrounding it isn't so there's no way to get a handle on her own demons when they are so intertwined with the unresolved demons of her sisters. If they don't do at least a portion of it together in order to address their demons with her then Kim can never truly vanquish hers own and finally move forward.

That's an interesting conclusion to leap to. I've never thought of it that way.

But still the other approached would have saved them a lot scoldings whether justified or not. It's a trade off. Indulge in the need to chatter and gossip and inquire and mutter or live without the constant worry off email reprimands and record sharing showdowns? I personally would have chosen not having to worry about confrontations and staying mum. Reminds me of this saying "Be a good listener, your ears won't get you into trouble".. LOL.