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10 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:
I am completely worried about this. I don't think it's a secret that I'm a huge Kevin fan, flaws and all, but I'm worried that this is just it for Kevin's storyline this season and the rest of the season will be just him trying to win Sophie back.
God, I can only hope that won't be the case. This would be the absolute last thing I want. And I say that as someone who's actually very invested in the Kevin/Sophie relationship. Yes, she sort of came out of nowhere and they've had minimal actual screentime together, but I want to learn more about their story, past and present. But not now, not for a while. This story should be about Kevin only. Considering Alexandra Breckenridge just had a baby a month ago, I don't expect her to be back on set any time soon anyways. They're filming ep. 2x15 right now, so she might be back for the last 1-2 episodes, if we're lucky, but I don't expect much.
It doesn't sound too promising right now, but the minimum I want for Kevin's story is
- that it doesn't get wrapped up in just one episode.
- that his family takes his issues seriously and make him and his well-being the top priority just for once.
- that Kevin is honest to himself and gets to the root of his issues to get better.
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18 minutes ago, ShadowFacts said:
'Swanky Hollywood rehab clinic' and 'wowing the staff with his Mr. Rehab charm' don't seem like the makings of brutal honesty especially if he's going to unleash it on his family but not himself, but I can't see how much forward progress will be made if he keeps up his charming facade in therapy.
That's exactly what worries me too. That part of the article doesn't really sound like Kevin wants to go deep and actually deal with his feelings and his issues. Idk if I want to see a lot of therapy, but I do want to see Kevin confront not only his family, but his own issues. Guess I have to see how it all plays out, but some things from this article have me worried about the next episode.
I thought (or had the secret hope) they might go the full high-functioning depression route with Kevin, but they seem to keep it at surface level by just addressing his addiction. But the immense self-loathing that came out in 2x08 was kind of always there. From the beginning of the show it's been apparent that Kevin has these self-doubt issues and actually thinks very little of himself. It's subtle, but it's always been there. And who could blame him really? He's constantly belittled. People didn't take him seriously as an actor and they showed and told him that countless times. Not even his agent believed in him. His parents loved him dearly, there are no doubts about that, but it's also a fact that they cared more about making sure his siblings were fine. All that coupled with the fact that he lost his football career, the one thing where he drew most of his confidence from and losing his father at the same time - it's not hard to believe that that would mess a person up. But Kevin's life's been pretty good regardless, so he kept on going, kept on functioning and buried his feelings, until they started crashing down on him like an avalanche.
Anyways, I think there's a lot that could be explored with Kevin, but I don't think most of it will be happening anymore.
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Here's a very spoilery article about the upcoming episode:
http://www.screenspy.com/articles/this-is-us-episode-2x11-the-fifth-wheel-scoop-photos/
Looks like we're in for a time jump after all. I kind of expected it, but I still don't like it. I wonder if Tess' issues will be addressed at all or if the only purpose was to create more tension between Randall & Beth and Kevin.
I'm looking forward to Kevin dishing out some brutal honesty, but I hope they don't do this so he ends up looking bad (again). I also hope they don't write this in a way so that Kevin comes off as playing the victim. IDK what to think exactly, but I'm still very much excited for this episode.
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5 hours ago, General Days said:
Kevin's the fifth wheel, and that picture is from rehab. Don't know if its location is specified. There's not much to spoil, plot-wise, but as I understand, it's a solid episode, and they do some digging into Kevin's issues and family issues, in general. Beth, Miguel, and Toby have their own scenes together, which I hear are good, but "need more Miguel."
Well, that's interesting. And sad too. No kid should ever have to feel like a fifth wheel in their own family. I keep saying, This Is Us is the perfect example of how not even good parents are beyond messing up their kids, or at least playing a part in it.
Can you give away if we're actually gonna see something of the direct aftermath of Kevin's arrest? Like Beth and Randall's anger, Kevin's remorse and how Tess is doing? Or is there a time jump and we start the episode in rehab?
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4 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:
My first thought that they were at Kevin's rehab center, since we know the episode starts, or takes place at, rehab for Kevin. I mean, if it is, that's a really nice rehab center if they have that nice woodsy area. Maybe the rehab place is right near the horse stables that Kate went to go get her therapy at with Horse Dick.
Yeah it's clear that some parts will take place during Kevin's rehab and I expected as much, but I will be very disappointed if they skip the immediate aftermath of the DUI/arrest. I wanna see Kevin being devastated and apologetic and beating himself up about what happened, Randall/Beth furious but ultimately understanding. Tess sad and upset, but explaining that it wasn't all Kevin's fault.
IMO those things are very important and I'd hate if we didn't get to see them. But I have a bad feeling we won't :/. That's what Grey's Anatomy was doing more often than not in the last couple of seasons, especially when my favourite characters were involved, and I still have a trauma from that.
I also wonder if it will even be addressed that Tess is unhappy at home? I feel like that shouldn't be swept under the rug either.
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1 hour ago, Lady Calypso said:
Plus, now, Justin is the only main (adult) actor that hasn't been nominated for the show (not including ensemble nominations). Hell, even Gerard McRaney got nominated for a guest acting role. It's a real shame too, because this season has proven that he deserves a nomination for his work here.
Agreed, some of the nominations are really baffling. If I'm not mistaken even the guy who played Jesse got nominated last year. Seriously, what the hell??
Yeah, I think Justin was already the one adult main character without a nomination before today. Sterling, Milo and Chrissy had their Emmy noms and Mandy (and Chrissy) had the Golden Globe nomination. It really isn't fair. Everybody gets the recognition except for Justin.
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12 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:
Golden Globe nominations:
Best Television Series – Drama
Best Performance by an Actor in a Television Series – Drama: Sterling K. Brown
Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in a Series, Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television: Chrissy MetzIt's always the same actors who get those nominations and I'm not a fan. Sterling is obviously great, but did he really have the material to be nominated this season? Tbh I can't remember a particular s2 episode or scene where Randall really stuck out, even though I really enjoyed his centric episode. But maybe that's just me.
Chrissy, I guess, really got to shine in her centric, even though that episode didn't do much for me personally.
For me it's actually Mandy's and Justin's season. Those are the two that really moved me several times in s2 and I'm not just talking about the Kevin centric episode in Justin's case. IMO he's doing a very nuanced work all around and I'm absolutely invested in Kevin's storyline. As for Mandy, I'm really glad they don't write her in an "antagonistic" way anymore just to make Jack shine. IIRC Mandy was actually nominated for a Golden Globe last year, but I think this year she'd have deserved it more.
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9 hours ago, Pallas said:
Not necessarily. It's become more and more prevalent for showrunners not to tell their leads everything they have in mind for that character's backstory -- especially big moments to be dropped later. The rationale is that this prevents the actor from, in any way, beginning "to play" that upcoming outcome or revelation.
Me, I think that's belittling to actors, and a bit of power play. But not proof that the showrunner didn't have this in mind beforehand.
Agreed! I absolutely LOATHE how Grey's Anatomy does that to their actors. They don't tell them anything. They only find out during table reads and then you end up with scenes that look stupid in hindsight and a ton of retcon. And I just think, if it's such a hussle for TPTB to keep up with character continuity, it would be helpful to give their actors a bigger picture, so they can point out when something doesn't make sense. Then again, Grey's Anatomy has thrown "making sense" over board a long time ago, so why do I still care?
Back to This Is Us: I'm okay with how TPTB handle the information flow with their actors. They seem to be in on lots of things (they were all told how Jack died apparently). But as was mentioned above, I don't expect the writers to have a character bible with every detail planned out beforehand. I do believe Jack's brother was something that was made up this season, but it's not something that couldn't have existed before, just because he wasn't mentioned before. We're only in s2 and we're still in the middle of getting to know these characters, getting new bits and pieces every episode.
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9 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:
What was hilarious about the character is that he played it like a bashful romantic comedy hero. It really worked.
Okay, now I'm actually kind of intrigued. I might have to give this a chance and just block out Kevin Pearson and his misery.
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39 minutes ago, Kata01 said:
Agree. I thought William’s story was beautifully laid out in Memphis. It’s redundant and cheapens his story to go the flashback route with him this season. Like that old soap opera-ish slight of hand - we’ll kill him off, but he’s not REALLY dead. Not working.
Rebecca’s lack of connection to her adult biological children is that elephant in the room that no one talks about. Her relationship with adult Kate is strained at best. She has 0 emotional connection with adult Kevin (I can vaguely recall 1 adult one on one scene they had last season). Everything is lavished onto Randall and his family. I was hoping the show might delve into the meat of these relationships this season, but, alas(!) no. A lot of wasted opportunity for schleck. Sorry not sorry show, you have to earn my tears.
I still like the show, but Rebecca's lack of connection bugs me a great deal as well, especially when it comes to Kevin. I don't even remember 1 adult one on one scene between the two of them. So if anybody remembers if/what/when it happened, please point me towards it.
There are actually so many relationships I want explored more and as much as I like the character and the actor, I'd gladly trade William for those. As you pointed out, dead should be DEAD.
I wanna know more about Sophie and Kevin. I know they've known each other for a long time, but how did they ultimately end up together? And how did they fall apart? To really be able to root for them as a couple we need way more insight into their history IMO.
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44 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:
So, I found this post-interview with Justin Hartley:
This seems that I was wrong about Kevin already having a previous addiction. I truly believed that he was just relapsing, but this answer seems to say the opposite.
However, I do like Justin's answers about this addiction storyline. He's very well-spoken about it. He's really gotten into Kevin's mindset, admitting that Kevin's making bad choices and is being an ass, but also trying to give some sympathy and understanding with his character. Unlike other actors, who try to explain away all the bad in their characters, from what I find in other interviews. I don't want to compare Justin to Milo, but I do feel like when I read Milo interviews, he promotes the Saint Jack ideal. But Justin, he says things like this:
It does work really well for me.
I agree about Justin's interviews. I really love that he seems to understand the complexities of his character. I've been reading up on his POV all day.
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All in all I liked it. I'm on the fence about the scene with the lawn breakdown. That was very uncomfortable to watch. I guess that was part of the intention with that scene, I'm just not sure I found it uncomfortable for the right reasons. But other than that I think Justin absolutely delivered. What really got to me was the football field "pep talk" of self-loathing. And the moment he conjured Jack in his strung-out and drunken stupor and held on to him just a little too tightly.
I'm not sure it was an Emmy worthy performance, but considering that there are many episodes where he moved me before, I think he'd be absolutely deserving. Also because literally every other "Pearson" either got a Golden Globe or Emmy nomination or both last year and I'd be happy for Justin if he got the same kind of recognition.
I am pissed the moment where he finally was ready to open up and ask for help got taken away, because of somebody else's tragedy. It's quite ironic that even the one episode that is supposed to be solely about Kevin somebody else got the spotlight in the end. Kevin's always the least important Pearson. Idk maybe they'll do the same with Kate --> Randall, but the way they did it here pissed me off.
Given that it's now clear that Kevin did not have a previous history with addiction, the progress of his addiction definitely happened too fast. Which is another reason why I wish they'd flipped the order and ended the trilogy with Kevin. That would have given them 2 more episodes and the story wouldn't be so rushed.
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3 hours ago, HeyThere83 said:
It is BEYOND OTT. So much of what I'm reading tonight is particularly embarrassing.
Agreed. As a hardcore Kevin fan, I was looking forward to this episode like never before. But as soon as the OTT twitter praise started, I knew I needed to take a step back as not to set myself up for disappointment. It's just too much.
I liked the episode, not my fav exactly, but good. I thought Justin was good too. He didn't sell me on every scene, but I did find him great in some. However, the episode was not THAT amazing, Justin was not THAT amazing. Frankly, I don't think it's humanly possible to be that great to warrant this amount of gushing.
On the one hand I think it's nice the cast, crew and TPTB are so supportive of each other, especially of the actors, but OTOH I wish they would turn it down a notch. Or ten.
28 minutes ago, pennben said:I also know that I'm likely going to dislike the next two episodes, because it feels like they are setting up a trilogy of tragedy porn. And that's where my probably cold dark heart diverges from this show the most......they are going to try to pull every string to make sure the audience sobs...and that's when I say "nope, I see your strings" and get irritated at the show all over again. And to be honest, I'm not looking forward to "Randall is just the best character" after part 3 that I know is going to happen.
Time will tell, I guess. Also probably [past] time to get my cranky ass to bed:)
I agree. Especially about the Randall parts. I like the character, but the OTT Randall glorification in the writing needs to stop already. It makes me like him less.
Also I can't believe they're apparently bringing William back again for his episode. I liked him a lot in s1, but like with so many other things on this show, they're overdoing it.
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32 minutes ago, ClareWalks said:
Saw Justin Hartley in Bad Moms Christmas where he plays a stripper who gets regular ball waxes. It will be difficult to watch him as Kevin from now on, LOL
Yeah, that's why I have zero intention of watching that movie haha
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I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion, but it kind of annoys me that the Big Three trilogy ends with Randall. I wish they'd flipped the order and ended it with Kevin instead, so that we go into hiatus with a big Kevin episode. Randall's already had so many big episodes. But Kevin is somehow always the most underrated/unimportant Pearson, both on the show and for TPTB apparently too.
I like Randall, but this season his story doesn't work as well for me. I'm not saying Kevin's is that much better, but personally I'm much more invested and I wish it was used to let Kevin step out of the shadows of Randall and Jack for once.
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10 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:
I'd kind of love it if it was Rebecca, actually. She's seen her own husband go through and hide his addiction, so her noticing Kevin's spiral would show her paying attention to the often forgotten son (at least compared to Kate/Randall), and it could lead to some much needed Rebecca/Kevin present day scenes.
What is up with the lack of present day interactions between Rebecca and Kevin anyways? I don't think they've shared a single scene where it was just the two of them? I could see that they're not that close, because as Kevin said himself in s1, Randall was more important to her. But wouldn't that be something to address in the present day scenes, much like Kate's issues with her mother? Or are Kevin and Rebecca just fine, albeit not so close and Kevin projected all his frustration, hurt and anger towards Randall and doesn't feel any resentment for his mother?
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46 minutes ago, Chas411 said:
I have to say I really feel they're aware of just how bad last season was..
Krista sure seems to be. She's been shading the writing on twitter quite a bit and it's not even that subtle. I wonder how her co-writers and her co-showrunner William Harper feel about that.
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1 hour ago, AriAu said:
I continue to be amazed at how few spoilers leak out. There is almost always some twist in each episode and it never gets out, not from the people involved with the show itself or from the after show stuff or anything. Remarkable.
Speaking of spoilers, does anybody know where one can find press releases and promo pics in advance? The site spoilerTV always has both + sneak peeks but only for the next episode and nothing beyond that. I know from other shows like Grey's Anatomy that official press releases as well as promo pictures are published 2-3 weeks in advance. Is this just something that's not happening for this show or am I looking in all the wrong places?
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Me three, and I just watched it again. I'd forgotten that it begins with Uncle Kevin's coming to his niece's room to apologize for making a crack about death, that scared Annie. We've now seen more of this side of Uncle Kevin, throughout his life. His jokes are observations pushed to the extreme: sharp, observant, gimlet-eyed and undeceived, like a film noir detective. "Dad's trying to keep Kate from feeling too fat, and you're trying to keep Randall from feeling too adopted. Meanwhile, where's Kevin? Oh I know: Kevin's dead." (To me, this is not so different from Kevin's "Randall's finally got the chance to make his move," as Randall shares popcorn solicitously with their mother in a movie theater on the night Kevin's father moved out of the house after weeks of silent fighting with the mother who'd left town the night before, and her return at dawn -- so now she's going to be the only one we live with? -- because things somehow got worse, overnight.) Or, paraphrasing: "Dad. Buy a clue. I can get all the candy I want. Kate can't. Not from anyone but you."
Kevin really is the high school quarterback who -- when his parents know he's in his room with the door locked, not doing his homework -- is drawing, not playing video games. He has an actor's ability to take a character and twist the context 45 degrees in either direction, and see what that looks like. What happens when the screws are tightened, or what happens when you break the seal.
What's intriguing about the flashbacks to son-and-brother Kevin during Uncle Kevin's voice-over is that each brief clip resolves a scene we've seen before and thought we got. At the pool, not-dead Jack stands waist-deep and tosses a football to also-not-dead Kevin, all alone in the shallow end. Later, Rebecca sitting at the edge of the pool, near Kate, tosses the ball to Jack, now crouched chest-deep, who lets it bounce off his hands and is immediately attacked by both boys, one over each shoulder. Back home in the fall, we see the family watch the Steelers score or win (it looks unexpected or suspenseful): the first thing the two exuberant boys do is madly swat each other with their Terrible Handtowels. Meanwhile Kate and Jack hug, Rebecca opens her arms and the much-closer Randall embraces her, and Kevin sees...his father look for him and reach out, not turning back to Kate until he sees that Rebecca has reached out too, and Kevin has already jumped into a three-way hug with his mother and brother.
Some of the images for Kevin's narration aren't Kevin's (the flashforward to Randall after William's death) and other are imagined (Kevin's great-grandfather arriving in the U.S. as an immigrant, carrying a flattened rugby ball in his suitcase). But the memories set in the pool and home in Pittsburgh on two afternoons just before and after he turned ten, are his, and genuine. Kevin knows, whether or not he remembers, that this too was us. Some things don't need a twist.
Like I said in the episode thread, I really like all your observations about this scene. Makes me want to rewatch it again, so I can catch all the little details. I may be in the minority, but Kevin is by far my favourite character. While the painting scene is my favourite of his and the whole show, the scene that actually completely sold me on Kevin was the one in 2x03 when he called Kate to apologize and then got choked up when he explained he couldn't talk about Jack. The way his voice broke when he mentioned their father and how he then was in such a hurry to end the conversation, before he really would end up crying just really got to me. And who can not relate to a situation like that? I think Justin Hartley did a very fine job in that whole scene. I also love how he displays the utter affection Kevin feels for his sister Kate in the way he talks and looks at her. Never fails to make me smile. Their relationship is definitely one of my favourites.
Justin is, IMO, very underrated on this show. Everybody keeps talking about Randall and Jack, but for me it's Kevin who hits me right in the feels most times and given that most times I don't tend to fall for the pretty, seemingly superficial, more lighthearted characters who might also seem to be a bit full of themselves (then again who is not full of themselves on this show?), that says a lot. Before This Is Us I only knew Justin Hartley from Revenge and while I liked his character there, I wasn't overly invested. But I think he does a great job with Kevin, especially if you consider that he does not get those big, epic moments that make him outshine everyone else. Not in the way Jack and Randall get them anyways (or Rebecca in 2x06). Not that I want Kevin to burst out into grand speeches, but I do hope they do something great with his current storyline, as cliche as it might seem so far. I want the writers to really explore his character.
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7 hours ago, Pallas said:
Me three, and I just watched it again. I'd forgotten that it begins with Uncle Kevin's coming to his niece's room to apologize for making a crack about death, that scared Annie. We've now seen more of this side of Uncle Kevin, throughout his life. His jokes are observations pushed to the extreme: sharp, observant, gimlet-eyed and undeceived, like a film noir detective. "Dad's trying to keep Kate from feeling too fat, and you're trying to keep Randall from feeling too adopted. Meanwhile, where's Kevin? Oh I know: Kevin's dead." (To me, this is not so different from Kevin's "Randall's finally got the chance to make his move," as Randall shares popcorn solicitously with their mother in a movie theater on the night Kevin's father moved out of the house after weeks of silent fighting with the mother who'd left town the night before, and her return at dawn -- so now she's going to be the only one we live with? -- because things somehow got worse, overnight.) Or, paraphrasing: "Dad. Buy a clue. I can get all the candy I want. Kate can't. Not from anyone but you."
Kevin really is the high school quarterback who -- when his parents know he's in his room with the door locked, not doing his homework -- is drawing, not playing video games. He has an actor's ability to take a character and twist the context 45 degrees in either direction, and see what that looks like. What happens when the screws are tightened, or what happens when you break the seal.
What's intriguing about the flashbacks to son-and-brother Kevin during Uncle Kevin's voice-over is that each brief clip resolves a scene we've seen before and thought we got. At the pool, not-dead Jack stands waist-deep and tosses a football to also-not-dead Kevin, all alone in the shallow end. Later, Rebecca sitting at the edge of the pool, near Kate, tosses the ball to Jack, now crouched chest-deep, who lets it bounce off his hands and is immediately attacked by both boys, one over each shoulder. Back home in the fall, we see the family watch the Steelers score or win (it looks unexpected or suspenseful): the first thing the two exuberant boys do is madly swat each other with their Terrible Handtowels. Meanwhile Kate and Jack hug, Rebecca opens her arms and the much-closer Randall embraces her, and Kevin sees...his father look for him and reach out, not turning back to Kate until he sees that Rebecca has reached out too, and Kevin has already jumped into a three-way hug with his mother and brother.
Some of the images for Kevin's narration aren't Kevin's (the flashforward to Randall after William's death) and other are imagined (Kevin's great-grandfather arriving in the U.S. as an immigrant, carrying a flattened rugby ball in his suitcase). But the memories set in the pool and home in Pittsburgh on two afternoons just before and after he turned ten, are his, and genuine. Kevin knows, whether or not he remembers, that this too was us. Some things don't need a twist.
That's some nice insight. I'm gonna move this discussion to the Kevin thread.
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4 hours ago, Deanie87 said:
I liked that Jo is getting pro-active about her situation and I really liked her scenes with Meredith. As much as I appreciate that Krista Vernoff is trying to reset the show and perhaps change some stuff that isn't working, I am having a harder time with some of the retcons that I thought I would. I hated the "Mer hates Jo for no reason" storyline and the "Jo is the worst doctor on the planet" storyline so I figured that I would be thrilled to put all of that to bed, but its not working for me as much as I had hoped. Let's be honest, if Jo gets Chief Resident, its only because she is literally the only one left. And I'm ready for her to just take the boards and become an attending already. So now I am kind of wary of how the domestic storyline will be dealt with. I would love to just ignore all of the basic inconsistencies and outright contradictions of her past, but I'm not sure that I'm going to be able to. I can handwave the name change/college entrance stuff if I have to, because I doubt any of it is going to really get explained, but its been going on for so long and its such an important and topical issue that they really need to be careful with it. Beyond that, I"m glad that things seem to be going well for Alex and Jo and I'm a sucker for their banter ("I love you." "You smell like fish guts." Adorable.) I could use a real heartfelt conversation about how Alex felt about being lied to and the fallout from the DeLuca beating, but that seems like water under the bridge at this point.
I feel very similar about this. I was thinking, the writers just have to give Jo the focus she so desperately needed and then I would be totally on board with everything, but so far I'm not completely invested sadly. But I am glad they stopped writing Jo like she's the loser resident, but now they go overboard in the other direction. She's a star resident and possibly future Chief resident? That's nice I guess, but I can't get too excited about it, because we haven't seen enough of Jo as a doctor to say she's earned that, although what we've seen this season is already a huge improvement to the last 3 seasons. Plus she's obviously competing against "invisible" residents, because soon she's gonna be the only one left of her class.
On the one hand I'm extremely glad Jo decided to take matters into her own hands regarding her husband and that her decision didn't have anything to do with a man. However, part of me is disappointed that years of being with Alex - knowing he wanted to marry her and wanting to marry him in return - did apparently nothing to give her the courage and the desire to get pro-active about the situation. Instead she gave Alex non-answers to his proposals and avoided the issue entirely.
I hate to say it, because I like Jo and I want to like her story, but so far I'm still not completely sold on the DV plot. I want it to move me, I want it to get to me, but so far it's just... there. Maybe I'll get more invested once husband shows up. I sure hope so. I remember that scene from s9 between Alex and Jo when the tree crashed through the window and I think that's the moment Jo's character has evoked the most emotion in me. I absolutely love that scene for both characters. It was so raw and honest and full of tension and unsaid things hanging in the air. I love that sort of head-on confrontation between any two characters if it's well done. Which is also why, I'm bummed we never got something like that after Jo's secret was spilled. I guess the writers were too afraid it could be dangerously close to victim-shaming, so that never happened. But I wish Alex and Jo had at least been granted an actual talk about everything that happened. Alex just being okay with all the lying and secrets doesn't feel right. But I know we're way past the point of getting a real conversation about everything that happened.
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4 hours ago, maddie965 said:
That's my favorite scene in the whole series. I've lost count of how many times I've watched it. I adore Kevin. And I adore what he said there. That scene is the most perfect definition of what the show is about. I love that Kevin got to say the words that mean so much to me. I wish the authors would stop treating him like a victim and get back to showing his sensitive, philosophical side.
Mine too. I absolutely loved that scene. I pride myself on barely crying when I watch this show (and not because I wanna be tough, but because the whole emphasis of TPTB, actors etc... that this show WILL make you cry is seriously annoying), but this scene got me. I definitely teared up watching it.
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28 minutes ago, chocolatine said:
Jo's divorce storyline promises to be juicy, and it will certainly give Alex more to do. I just hope it doesn't involve a near-death experience that this show is so fond of.
You mean give Jo more to do. I don't expect Alex to be anything more than a supporting character to her story. And that's how it should be, I guess. This is an important and delicate topic and it would be wrong to put the guy she's dating too much in the center. Besides, Jo has barely ever had her own story in all her 5 years on the show. Still, I can't help but be extremely bitter that Alex's feelings and his POV on everything that happened in s13 with him and Jo are being completely and utterly ignored. Guess we're supposed to just accept he's not hurt at all by Jo's lies and secrets, because she had valid and tragic reasons for those. Guess he's completely over the marriage topic too. Where do he and Jo actually stand right now? What does he want for their future together? Who cares? What matters is that they got a rushed reconciliation and cute scenes in every episode, before the appearance of Paul Stadler will bring all the drama and sadness for them.
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1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said:
Oh right. Another inconsistency with the script. We are shown Kevin who is so out of it. His sister says that he's never dealt with dad's death. He's running and is haunted by it. He starts drinking too much taking pills. Partly from pain of the injury, but, also the angst from his father's death. HOWEVER, he seemed very well adjusted and to have accepted the death and how that relates to the scheme of life, when he was visiting with Randall and he showed the nieces his artwork (painting THIS IS LIFE) and told them the story of how in the circle of life, no one ever dies, they just stay in the circle of life and are always with us. They always exist. It was so poignant and philosophical. But, NOW, less than a year later, it's like that never happened. Here's a link for it.
I don't take that scene as contradicting Kevin's current struggles. I always took it - and of course that's pure speculation on my part - that what's haunting Kevin now is not so much the mere fact that his father is not there anymore, but that there's more to it, like they had a big fight right before and and maybe he said ugly things to his father and he can never undo that anymore or apologize for it and has to live with the fact that their last encounter ended badly. Like I said it's pure speculation, I have nothing to base this on, but Kevin's delayed strong reaction to Jack's death does seem a bit out of nowhere considering certain scenes from s1, so that's the theory I'm going with for now.
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Unpopular Opinions Thread
in This Is Us
I think nobody would say anything, if it wasn't literally the entire Pearson clan (in-laws not included) who got their award nominations at this point. Milo, Mandy, Sterling, Chrissy - they all got the recognition, except for Justin Hartley. I can't help but find that a little disappointing too.
As for Beth, I still think she's awesome. She's definitely one of my favs. I just wish they'd give her more than just the snark and the sass and the attitude. Last season that seemed much more balanced IMO.