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  1. With Farkle, I almost had to talk myself into believing that being called "nothing" a few times by one jerk would be enough to have such a huge affect on him.

     

    The thing with that episode is that in all other episodes Farkle is basically a giant nerd power fantasy, he's basically king of the entire city (or at least the school). He has a collection of female admirers, he takes over class at a whim, he can interrupt the school play and demand that Juliette kiss him instead of Romeo to thunderous applause from parents and students alike and have the entire crowd pressuring Maya to go up on stage and kiss him when he demands it, ect ...

     

    You can't have a character run roughshod over everyone on the show in every episode and then suddenly go, "Oh, yeah, he's a nerdy guy, so he'll have a bully and he'll be completely powerless against him!" The improbably popular and beloved by all Farkle that we see in every other episode of the series would have responded to bullying by dressing up like a South American dictator and whipping up an army of frenzied followers who would have hunted his bully down on his behalf.

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  2. Didn't care for the episode. Luke and Manny being that naive about booze was ridiculous, plus they google how to drink tequila and nothing ever comes up about a worm? I find it hard to believe guys that age don't know what liquor tastes and smells like and that they would drink water and be fooled.

     

    I don't know if water would have fooled me, but I didn't drink liquor for the first time until I was in college.

  3. Well, at least now we know where Laurel learned how to not take responsibility for her own actions…

     

    That about sums it up. When Quentin was ranting at Oliver for making him his accomplice ... Last I checked Oliver doesn't have mind control powers, you made yourself his accomplice Q, so did your daughters and everyone else.

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  4. I was so entranced by that whole scene, but a voice in the back of my mind kept thinking - wait - dude you're revealing yourself!!!

    Afterward I was like - why didn't ANYONE else think it was cray cray that he was talking about a Speed Force?! Aargh. If Cisco/Caitlin stay dumb, that's just sad.

    Wells doesn't seem that stupid - he couldn't help Barry do the vibration thing without mentioning the speed force?

     

    Eobard just got caught up in the moment and let it slip.

     

    The others probably just thought that he was speaking metaphorically to get Barry where he needed to be or they'll think he has a new theory about how it is that Barry is able to run so fast.

  5. I don't want to debate the merits of the DSM, but with or without the diagnosis in hand, I think the show played it very bluntly that Sophia's unhappiness was not subtle or well-hidden. She was from her very first appearance acting like a desperate semi-robot. Callie saw how unhappy she was. They gave Sophia scenes where she said things like maybe it would have been for the best if she hadn't been born-- not in a fit of pique, but in a quiet moment. Bailey Madison is a skilled actress, and I don't think it was an accident that she played Sophia like she was miserable in ways that could be seen. For her parents to have no inkling whatsoever, even after witnessing things that had every viewer of the show + Callie note her despair, to me says at least something about the state of the family.

     

    Her parents didn't witness things that viewers of the show did though. She said that line about not being born to Callie when the two of them were alone. A scene later Robert tells her to show Jude how to tie a knot because she needs to work on it and she sticks her tongue out at him and they both laugh. She didn't act like a robot around her parents.

     

     

    Thanks for confirming Sophia has Borderline PD.  It's a messy condition that's linked to eating disorders, suicide, self-harm (cutting or burning like Sophia had), drug use, and crime. 

     

     

    I'm not sure where people are getting the idea that Sophia specifically has BPD? All she says in the episode is that she has a personality disorder, which she then refers to as a chemical imbalance.

  6. Interesting. I wasn't discounting Sophia's chemical imbalance, I just didn't mention it. I tend to be more interested in the psychosocial factors in storylines like these. That say something about me, I guess. You seem to be saying that environmental factors play no part in the development of personality disorders. I may be reading too much into it, but if that's the case, then I think we're watching a different show!  

     

    I want to be clear though, I wasn't trying to assign blame to Robert for Sophia's illness. These things are really complicated and overall I think The Fosters does a pretty good job of showing the nuances. It manages to tread a very fine line between criticising systemic problems of society and showing the need for foster kids (and all kids) to take opportunities to develop the skills necessary for living a good life, despite terrible things that have happened in their pasts.

     

    Sophia is a very interesting character to me because we were shown from the moment she was introduced that she was in a lot of pain and no one around her was aware of it. She was hardly aware of it herself. She had no way of articulating her suffering. Contrast that with Jude who was able to say, "I already hurt" when Callie warned him not to get too close to the Fosters. When he was struggling with anxiety and stopped speaking, people close to him (Connor, his teacher at Anchor Beach) picked up on it very quickly. In his family, he got the space and therapeutic help to deal with it before it went too far. I'm not saying the situation with Sophia is the same, they are different people, but it's interesting to contrast the two situations. By the time we met Sophia she was already in a state of crisis - and her parents had never noticed how on the edge she was, or any of her teachers at her expensive private school. She was being hothoused and she was just supposed to be able to deal with the pressure. But kids can only deal with that kind of academic pressure if they have the love and connection at home. Sophia's mom and dad obviously love their daughter and were doing the best for her in line with their inherited world view and their own limitations as people. But they are very disconnected from each other. Fortunately, Sophia survived her suicide attempt and her parents are in a social and financial position to get her the best help available. But actually, to really help her in the long run, they also need to work on getting closer as family, and not just on getting her medication right. So that's why it's step in the right direction for Robert to realise that he can't just "fix" his own unhappiness by throwing money at Callie and forcing her to come and live with him.

     

    I think that the root of Sophia's problem is the chemical imbalance she was suffering. Yes, there were things in her environment that probably exacerbated the situation for her, but she wouldn't have been happy without competitive horse riding and a tough school.

     

    As to the comparison to Jude, of course people notice when a teenager does something drastic like stop talking. People are much less likely to notice when a teenage is sometimes moody or complains about school. That the insidious thing, the coping mechanism of people developing depression is often try to hide their depression (especially from those they care about) until they get to a point where they just don't have the energy to put up the mask any more at which point things are looking very bleak and  they may be seriously contemplating suicide.

     

    The Quinns didn't fail to notice Sophia's issues because they weren't close enough as a family, they failed to notice because depression is a bastard. Now that Sophia is being medicated (and likely in therapy), she's better able to articulate her issues to her parents, and that's going to be good for all of them.

  7. Who are some of the big ones that I'm missing - Jenna and Lucas.  Were there any shout outs to them that I'm missing?  Did something go on during the tea party or game that I missed?  Because both of those were just creepy.

     

    Charles being (temporarily) blinded by the girls light show could have been a reference to The Jenna Thing.

  8. I'm glad Callie's storyline with her birth father was resolved so well. It was interesting how it played out. At the start of the season, Sophia wished they could adopt Callie which came from a very immature and entitled place. Sophia's childish wish was mirrored in how Robert's character was revealed over time. Like his dad before him, he repeatedly showed entitlement/insensitivity towards his family even though his heart was in the right place. At the end of the season, he finally grew up and separated from his dad. In the end, he did the right thing for both his daughters. He's not trying to impose himself on Callie but letting her choose for herself and make space for him in her life. Sophia's no longer a miserable show pony, but is now getting the space and understanding she needs to be herself.

     

    Sophia was not miserable because of anything that her parents did or didn't do, or because of needing space to be herself, she was miserable because she had a chemical imbalance in her brain.

  9. Wells' speech about how how if you try to improve the timeline, "time" will find a way to do something even worse was annoying and unscientific. "Time" is not a thinking being that cares about good or bad.

     

    They live in a universe where the impossible is possible, presumably that includes impossibilities like "Time" keeping a balance.

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  10. Spencer's interaction with Charles was very weird if he's A or even an A minion but makes sense if he's another prisoner. He comes up behind Spencer and just stands there, then vanishes as soon as Spencer looks away for a moment when Mona comes in. He never actually does anything aggressive towards the girls. He comes out at the "prom" when they call his name, gets blinded by their light show. He had ample opportunity to attack Spencer or even Spencer and Mona but vanished instead.

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  11. I don't think I can deal with Stef celebrating her getting away with her whole blackmail plot. You're a law enforcement officer. You blackmailed someone. That's bad and you should feel bad!

     

    I was thinking that Jesus would get injured in the car accident and no longer be able to wrestle, so he'll lose his scholarship to the boarding school and have to stay at home. Except that's probably too similar to the storyline they did with Brandon and his hand injury.

  12. The comments on another thread about Caleb/Hannah being more like brother/sister are interesting because they do lack passion. I think the actor who plays Caleb has been playing the role differently. Has he been directed to? Maybe it's because of Ravenswood or maybe because of his new hair.

    I think it's interesting that people feel this way, because I think the show has been trying to draw a deliberate parallel between not just Ali and Hanna this season, but also Hanna/Caleb and Ali/Jason.

     

    Caleb's spent the entire season doing everything he can to help Hanna and supporting her, Ali has been shown numerous times trying to contact Jason only for him to refuse to visit her or take her calls.

     

    Caleb is also able to be super supportive of Hanna while also being BFFs with Spencer, but when Jason goes along with Spencer it gets Ali arrested and put on trial for murder.

     

    When Jason and Ali finally do meet last episode, Ali tells him that he needs to protect himself and get the hell out of town. Later in the same episode Hanna tells Caleb the exact same thing.

     

    This episode, Jason is mentioned in name only as "getting food" but Caleb is getting a witness to testify and getting shot at by Robin Hood.

     

    It's like they've put Caleb in the supportive "brother" role for Hanna to highlight the strained relationship between Ali and Jason.

  13. Yes, it is. And you are extrapolating a bit too much from (I assume) Aria giggling in that flashback of Mona trying to follow. I don't recall seeing any flashbacks of Spencer, Emily and Hanna laughing while Alison bullied someone. Of course, in real mean girl posses the leader would encourage or even force her minions to join the bullying "fun" but in PLL all they did was not stopping Alison. Well, that and Aria laughing that one time.

     

    The girls also went along with "If you ignore it, it will go away".

     

    Eventually you're responsible for the company you keep. They all knew that Ali was a bully, they all stood there and, at best, said nothing and marched off after her while Alison treated people like Mona, Lucas, and Paige like absolute shit time after time.

     

    No, they are innocent because they were told something completely different was going to unfold. If a friend tells you he is going to spray someone with a water pistol as a prank but instead pulls a gun and shoots the guy dead, does that make you an accessory to murder? Of course not.

     

    It does if you help them get away with it after the fact.

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  14. Totally agree.

    Sure the plot wasn't necessary in the big picture but shows need some breathing between the high stakes drama episodes so I'm good with it. And it did shine a light on an important issue while also tying up loose ends on Callie's past.

    Besides, I'd rather watch all those sub plots about issues and characters that never get shown on TV like credit fraud in the foster system or the stories from the Girls United girls (being trans, being a teen mother, prostitution...) or Jude and Connor than watch the 1876862782th cheating storyline on TV so there is that...

     

     

    Love Emma as well! I am so glad the show is having so many female characters that are all different and they never "judge" in the sense that one way of being a girl is better than another. They very obviously advocated for Emma here by adding the comments from the boys about her being "a real girl" and her being overlooked in coding class. I didn't get the feeling that despite all the other girls protesting, Emma was in the wrong here.

    At the same time, the other girls also got to stand up for themselves because if you truly like dancing and being "sexy" or being the "PR" girl or being a "spokesperson" than there is nothing wrong with that either.

    And I don't think Mariana pushing Callie last week reflected badly on her at all. The opposite actually because Callie honestly didn't enjoy dancing like this and the result was that Callie quit and Mariana understood. Emma on the other hand does enjoy dancing like this, she just doesn't enjoy how she's perceived because of it. And in this case, Mariana pushed but not without hearing Emma's concern and offering her help.

    Good parallel if you ask me.

     

    I'm not sure I understand why you believe that Emma enjoys dancing like this (assuming that "this" means "sexy") even though she voices otherwise? I get the vibe that, yes, she enjoys dancing, but I believe her when she says that she's not comfortable with the sexy choreography that the team is doing.

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  15. Good points.

    I don't think anyone can or should hold Sophia's depression against her or her parents but it's a fact that she repeatedly tried to emotionally blackmail Callie into things Callie did not want. It wasn't her fault at all and I would never want to hold a sickness against anybody in any way.

    But why is nobody taking this into consideration when making a decision about Callie? "Leave the only place where you felt at home since forever as well as your brother who was your only family for the longest time and go live with your father whom you hardly know and the step-sister who threatened to kill herself unless you did what she wanted" does not sound like a decision that is made with Callie's best interest at heart at all.

     

    If they start taking things said/done by the other kids in the house in to consideration they'll have to take in to consideration that Callie and Brandon engaged in a romantic relationship, that resulted in Callie running away, violating her parole, and getting thrown in jail. She and Brandon then continued to see and communicate with each other against the rules that were set up by Girls United. Which, bluntly put, trumps anything that Sophia said as far as determining where it's in Callie's best interests to live.

     

    Which is part of the reason that they can't just do what the kid wants, Callie doesn't see this as an issue about whether she should live with Stef/Lena, but having been romantically entangled with her foster brother is absolutely an issue.

     

    And that's before we even get in to the fact that Brandon told the police that he framed Callie for making/selling fake IDs as revenge for her rejecting his romantic advances, and that she (who was already on the record as having been raped by a previous Foster brother) was still allowed to continue living in the same house as Brandon.

     

    How far should the "child's wishes" go? What if Lena has to fire Best-Teacher-Ever Timothy again and Mariana decides that she'd rather live with her boyfriend's family than keep living with Lena? Should Stef and Lena shrug their shoulders and sign off on that because it's what Mariana wants? Should the courts step in and force the termination of Stef and Lena's parental rights?

  16. I've never understood the Aria as A theory...why do people think she's A, besides all of this starting once she got back from Iceland?

     

    I think that, originally, it stemmed from A not really targeting  Aria, or when A did, it would be things that were sort of what Aria might actually want. A protected Ezra and Aria from Noel exposing their affair, A 'forced' Aria in to blackmailing Jackie to leave Hollis. A revealed Byron's affair that he'd been pressuring Aria to keep secret.

     

    There are a few things that are sort of meta "confessions". Mona calling Aria "Big A". The scene where Aria "confessed" to one of the moms that she was "A".

     

    That her family has a history of mental illness and Aria's been shown having vivid hallucinations several times in the series.

     

    There's an interesting one, though it's probably just some sort of prop error where Aria was shown writing in her journal about something that happened to Hannah, but it wouldn't actually happen until the next episode. If it was intentional, it's obviously a huge smoking gun that Aria would know what A was going to do to Hannah before it happened.

     

    There's a bunch of minor things that could easily mean nothing or just be the result of bad writing, but are kind of interesting.

     

    I don't think it will actually happen, but I do think it's kind of interesting. You can probably make lists for the other girls as well, but it's a little more fun with Aria since she is, otherwise, probably the dullest of the Liars.

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    It still takes her away from the Fosters. Being able to visit with them and her brother is hardly the same as her keeping a stable family unit with them, which is what she wants and is likely healthiest for her emotional development. He has at no point indicated that he's willing to share custody.

     

    I actually do know people with more than two legal parents (i.e., combo of adoptive and bio parents). It's definitely possible for Stef and Lena to adopt Callie and for them to share custody with Robert. He only wants full custody. I don't think he's a bad guy and I can certainly see how this would be incredibly hard for him, but he's not considering a compromise. "You can hang out with your bro and his parents whenever!" is not a compromise. I imagine eventually we'll get one, it's just annoying to me that nobody has proposed a reasonable one yet. Why Robert cannot see why actually sharing a home with her brother is incredibly important is beyond me.

     

    I'm not aware of any legal way for the three of them to share custody, if there's any information about such arrangements, I'd love to know about it. They could work out an informal agreement, like in the case of an open adoption, but whoever the legal parent was would hold 100% of the power and would be allowed to cut the 3rd party out of Callie's life at their whim.

     

    As a viewer of the show, I wouldn't want to share custody with Stef at all if it could be avoided (Lena would be fine, except that, you know, she'd married to Stef).

     

    She's a police officer who breaks the law when it suits her. She runs off to give anyone who she's displeased with the death glare (including the woman who kept Callie out of jail and is largely responsible for Callie being placed back with the Fosters). We've seen Stef cut Mike out of decisions with regards to Brandon, we've even seen her cut Lena out of decisions when she didn't agree with her. Does anyone actually believe that she'd give Robert's views on how Callie should be raised any consideration at all if they conflicted with her own when she barely even extends that respect to her own wife and ex-husband/police partner? 

     

    Knowing Stef from a viewer's eye view, I can't imagine that she'd restrain herself from running roughshod over Robert's role as her Father unless Robert had 100% of the legal parental power.

     

    As to the big picture, I think that we need to remember that Robert's relationship with Stef and Lena began with a form from a lawyer asking him to give away his daughter without ever setting eyes on her. So Robert should recognize that it's important for her to share a home with Jude full time, but Stef and Lena shouldn't have realized that it was important for Father and Daughter to even meet face to face? All they cared about was moving full steam ahead on their adoption, and it would sure be nice if this girl's father didn't throw a wrench in to that.

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  18. Okay, Bay, that sucked for you, but now you can move to New York or Paris or Germany or wherever to focus on your art. Invite Toby to come with you on the condition that he gets a better hair cut. Then I can finally stop watching this show.
     

    I'm getting the vibe that Mingus is the show trying to recreate the Daphne/Wilke magic. It was sort of like he's trying to do a Wilke impression this episode.

    Thank you! I was trying to figure out why he seemed so familiar, and that's absolutely it. He's a Wilke knock off.

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