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    Captain America: Civil War (2016)

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    9 hours ago, Amethyst said:

    I thought that Steve learned everything back when SHIELD went down.  But if he only learned about the Stark's murder and not Bucky's involvement, then I can see why he wouldn't have told Tony right off the bat.  But I still think he should have told Tony before they went to find Zemo.  For Zemo's plan to work, Tony had learn about the truth from him, not Steve.  And Zemo got exactly what he wanted.

    Again my question is when could he have told Tony? At the airport? Where Tony was intent on arresting him even after Steve tried to explain about Zemo and the other super-soldiers? Tony wasn't listening and telling him about his parents would've made a bad situation even worse. Plus then there's be no one going after Zemo.

    As for Zemo's plan, well that's another example of piss-poor writing. His plan was so convoluted and so damn complex, it was ridiculous.  He could've had the same results simply by releasing the video on the internet.  But then there wouldn't have been a movie.

    So we'll just have to agree to disagree that there was a time where Steve could've told Tony during the film.

    9 hours ago, Amethyst said:

    It was only when he found out about what had happened to the Starks that he went into a blind rage.  It wasn't like he sat down and calmly decided what to do next.  When an emotional bombshell hits like that, logic and reasoning can go out the window.  

    It's still not an excuse for murdering an innocent man.

    9 hours ago, Amethyst said:

    I'm aware that Steve would have protected Bucky or anyone else regardless.  What I meant was that from Tony's perspective, Steve was protecting the man who killed his parents.  I'm not excusing Tony's actions.  Bucky was just as much a victim as the Starks had been.  I just get why Tony reacted the way he did, and why he didn't let up.  

    Again I understand his initial reaction of violence. It was the prolonged nature of it that was beyond the pale. He was aware enough of his actions to keep telling Steve to stand down. He was prepared to kill Steve to get to Bucky. If Tony knew Steve at all, he'd have known that Steve was not only protecting Bucky but he was also trying to protect Tony from himself, protect him from doing something Tony would (hopefully) later regret. So no Tony doesn't get a pass on that from me.

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    Captain America: Civil War (2016)

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    15 hours ago, Amethyst said:

    There was no right time to tell Tony the ugly truth, and I didn't envy Steve for having to do it.  But it was his job to do, and deciding not to was a mistake.  Especially since the truth came from Zola of all people, whose sole purpose was to tear the team apart.  Imagine how differently that scene would have gone if Tony had already known about what happened, instead of finding out in the 11th hour when everything else had gone wrong.

    But at the end of Cap2, all Steve & Natasha had were suspicions that HYDRA was involved in the Starks' deaths.  They did not know for certain. And why is the onus on Steve to tell him? Natasha had the same information.

    Now I'm guessing that Steve only learned that the Winter Soldier assassinated the Starks' after Zemo triggered him and Steve and Sam had him in trapped in the hydraulic press. That was when Steve asked Bucky what Zemo wanted.

    Apparently there had been enough information in the SHIELD/HYDRA files Natasha dumped in Cap2 for Zemo to clue in that the Winter Soldier was involved in the Starks' deaths and that Howard had been transporting super-soldier serum at that time. Why didn't Tony find that info too? After all this is the man whose first action upon boarding the helicarrier in The Avengers is to hack into SHIELD's computer to find out what they're hiding. Tony Stark would have been all over that file dump. I can tell you why not: piss poor writing.

    As for Steve telling Tony about Bucky's involvement, if Steve found out for sure during the scene mentioned above, exactly when could he have told Tony? The action seems to take place over a relatively short time span, just a few days. By that point Steve was trying to stop Zemo from activating the other super soldiers. Steve tried to tell Tony about Zemo's plans at the airport and Tony wouldn't listen. Was Steve than suppose to tell him hey by the way, the Winter Soldier killed your parents?

    15 hours ago, Amethyst said:

    Had everything not gone to shit earlier, I would have thought the same.  But given the circumstances, it made sense to me.  That's why I felt it was a buildup of everything that had already happened with Tony.  The moment that brawl went down in the airport hanger, Tony and Steve were enemies.  But when Tony realized he was wrong about Bucky having caused the UN incident, it looked like he wanted to try to set things right with Steve.  

    And in the end, it wasn't just Bucky having killed Howard and Maria, it was Steve defending the man who killed Howard and Maria.

    Tony realized he was wrong, went to Ross with proof and got laughed at.  Then Tony broke the Accords he just signed, without suffering any repercussions, proving Steve's point about them.  Tony knew Bucky had been brainwashed/tortured and used as a weapon with no agency of his own. He knew that and still decided murder was the best course of action. Like I said, I understand the initial reaction of violence. It's that Tony persisted in trying to murder a man he knew had not been acting of his own free will over the course of several minutes.

    Of course Steve defended Bucky. What else was Steve supposed to do? Simply step aside and let Tony kill Bucky. That's not who Steve is. Take Bucky out of the equation and replace him with John Doe and Steve still would've defended him.

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    Suicide Squad (2016)

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    I'm disappointed this is getting bad reviews.  When I saw the trailer I thought it would be a decent popcorn movie. One of the reviews I read laid the blame at Snyder's feet for his vision of the DCEU.  Maybe it would've been smarter to go the Deadpool route with Suicide Squad.  It's a property that would probably benefit from a R rating.

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    Captain America: Civil War (2016)

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    59 minutes ago, JustaPerson said:

    I don't think Steve knew that Bucky had killed Tony's parents. He knew that Hydra had had them killed and probably suspected that Bucky may have been the one to do it as the Winter Soldier, but I don't think it had been confirmed for him until they saw that video. 

    That's pretty much my take on it too. When Zola flashes the newspaper article on the computer screen in CAP2, Steve (& Natasha) had reason to suspect that HYDRA was responsible for the Starks' deaths. I think Steve may have learned that it was Bucky during the scene in the warehouse in Cap3 when Steve is asking Bucky what Zemo wanted from him. (Let's not even talk about how stupid it was that that video even existed. Master assassin/ghost Winter Soldier murders two people, sees the camera and shoots it but doesn't destroy the tape? Really?)

    3 hours ago, Amethyst said:

    But what is different is that Steve had the benefit of hindsight, while Tony didn't.  Steve had the time to figure out what happened to Bucky, was able to organize a search, and even had other people helping him.  He's able to look at the situation rationally, because he's had time to process it.  Tony, however, learns in the span of a minute that not only did Bucky murder his parents, but Steve knew the whole time.  Him flipping out wasn't a shock at all.  That beatdown was a culmination of everything that had gone wrong since Ultron, but I think it was Steve keeping Tony in the dark about the truth that really set him off.  

    As far as Steve keeping the truth from Tony, prior to Cap3, all he (& Natasha) knew was Zola implied HYDRA was responsible. When Steve learned the truth, they were not really on speaking terms and I just can't blame Steve for not calling Tony and telling him under those circumstances. Tony also knew what had been done to Bucky.  He acknowledges it by calling him The Manchurian Candidate. I understand Tony flipping out initially but that he continued to be so irrationally bent on murder just doesn't seem right to me.  I would like to believe that after a minute or two he would've come to his senses.

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    Small Talk: The Prayer Closet

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    4 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

    Has anyone had gallbladder problems? I've had a dull ache on the right side for a few weeks and flare ups a few hours after (usually) dinner, when I consume fats. Last Wednesday, I had a cheeseburger and fries, and that night paid dearly; I was doubled over in pain like someone had stabbed me in the  upper stomach, around my liver. Last night, just a piece of chicken doubled me over a few hours later. Does this sound like the gallbladder? It's definitely SOMETHING, and it seems tied in with consumption of fats. 

    Calling the doctor tomorrow; I go back to work in a couple of weeks for meetings, but that may be an issue if this is serious. 

    Sounds like the gall bladder to me too. Mine would flare up like that after eating stuff like fried food or desserts. Don't let them tell you it's reflux and have them prescribe an antacid.  I suffered needlessly for months until the point I was up all night in agony. It wasn't until I saw a female NP that she knew it wasn't reflux or an ulcer and sent me for an ultrasound to get a correct diagnosis.

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    The Marvel Cinematic Universe: The Avengers, etc.

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    1 hour ago, Wynterwolf said:

    I would looove another Cap movie that focused on him and his relationship with Bucky (after he's unfrozen, of course), now that they aren't adversaries anymore, with them facing a foe together.... maybe while the others are having to deal with some other threat (similar to how Thor and Hulk were 'elsewhere' during Civil War).     

    Me too but I don't see it happening.  I think we'd more likely get an IM4 as another standalone before we'd ever get another Cap movie or a Black Widow movie or [insert Avenger's name] movie.

    The Marvel Cinematic Universe: The Avengers, etc.

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    I loved Cap2.  But for what was supposed to be a standalone movie for the eponymous character, Cap3 was way overcrowded with other characters. Steve was on screen for about 1/4 of the film (36 mins according to IMDB).  Meanwhile Tony was on screen for almost 34 minutes. Compared to their other standalones films where Steve & Tony each had about an hour of screentime. That's what I'm upset about.  For his final stand alone film, Cap deserved to be the focus.

    TPTB at Marvel decided they had to do Civil War to counter DC's Batman v Superman and they shoehorned it into Cap's final movie.  Civil War should've been an Avengers movie.  Cap3 should've been in the vein of Cap2, continuing where that movie left off.  Steve & Sam with help from Natasha and Sharon looking for Bucky and all coming together to defeat the big bad, Zemo.

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    The Marvel Cinematic Universe: The Avengers, etc.

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    58 minutes ago, Demented Daisy said:

    I read a rumor somewhere that they have scrapped IW Part 2 entirely and will be replacing it with a different Avengers story.  Now that we have a Captain Marvel, Civil War 2?

    Well, since Cap3 was really more IM4/Avengers2.5 than a Cap movie, maybe they should give us a true Cap movie with that slot. Though it'll probably turn into IM5 to more properly explore all Tony's pain. ;)

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    The Duggalos: Jinger and the Holy Goalie

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    One of the bullet points from the Daily Mail article: "Jinger posted a photo of herself and her new beau over the weekend, saying how much she loves getting to know her fiance."

    I mean, really, shouldn't she have gotten to know him before they got engaged? That's how I'd do it.  But what do I, a very lapsed catholic/atheist, know?
     

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    Small Talk: The Prayer Closet

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    In addition to being curly, my hair is thick.  Every hairdresser I've ever gone to remarks on how thick it is. When I was young my hair was medium/dark brown with red/gold highlights. Now it's very dark brown/almost black.  At least that's the color of the hair that's not gray. I started going gray very young just like my mother.  I usually go for a light or medium golden brown.

    This is my hair.

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    Small Talk: The Prayer Closet

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    I have a love/hate relationship with my curly hair. Most of the time I love it because I don't have to do anything to it-no mousse, no gel, just finger comb and let it air dry. But when it's really humid, major frizzies.

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    Leverage Classic - Past Seasons Discussion

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    3 hours ago, kassygreene said:

    I really enjoyed Kung Fu Monkey, and I am still sad that John Rogers just abandoned it.  It's like a really good fanfic left as a work in progress, something I've loathed for two decades now (Totally Off Topic: Scully in Paradise, an X-File/Magnum P.I. crossover in which early Scully quits or is forced out of the FBI and winds up taking over Magnum's position at Robin's Nest, tragically abandoned after ten or eleven chapters.) 

    Don't know where JR went online with his stuff, but I did enjoy reading it.

    I loved Kung Fu Monkey.  I still go back and read it from time to time.  I know JR is on twitter.

    26 minutes ago, kassygreene said:

    My problem with The Librarians is, I think, a fairly common one: too much Flynn, not nearly enough new Librarians.

    When this series was announced (Christian Kane!), I found the three movies and watched them.  Tried to, actually.  I don't know if the writing didn't quite make it, or Noah Wyle just vacuumed up all the possibilities of joy and stashed 'em in a black hole, but...  it had all sorts of elements I expected to like, and instead it added up to something I've no desire to re-watch.  The series, however, sans Wyle, is consistently enjoyable.  When does season 3 premiere, TNT?  The Fall of 2016 is rapidly approaching.

    Yeah, Wyle just sucks all the air out of any ep he's in with all the scenery chewing. I'm really fearing what will happen in S3 as Wyle's no longer has Falling Skies and instead will be in more eps.

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