ZombieUpNorth

I get your point but the Black Widow was brought in that world as a child. They even tell you about it in Avengers, she was as young as the girl that attracted Ruffalo to her. So I cut her some slack because she didnt know any better its how she was raised. Grant made very rational decitions at a much more mature age and the results were mass murder. Ward can have a heroic death yes or even make him a force that can be used for good (say like the Winter Soldier) but that shouldnt be only path avaible for a character. He can be someone trying to acomplish something for his own benefit and in the proccess be a bad guy for our nice fellows over at Shield. He doesnt have to become good again to be a good character is what Im saying.

I agree. When you have people waiting for the stars of the show to die a horrible death, you know you took a bad turn. The show's biggest problem is not its lack of supers, the CGI or even the story per se, its the damn characters(and actors) we are forced to follow. I would rather watch Maria Hill fill paperwork in the Stark building. Is their hope? Maybe yes because Marvel seems to listen to the audience and they know they f up here. Maybe not because the show runners will be the same and so will be the main characters.

For me knowing this is a TV show and all we saw was the first night of the battle, its enough. I enjoyed it. The only thing for me is, you know a second wave isnt coming, because they "blew their wad" in this episode and they arent waisting more money just to do a repeat. Jon will make it stop one way or another. This show is always jumping around from place to place so it was nice to focus on just 1 spot. The stakes werent as high for the viewers as in the KingsLanding battle but thats just because there were only 2 people we cared about , Jon and his wildling. If you like the Sam ark, then you have him too but thats it. Dont get me wrong I liked the 2 bros that died in the battle, but this is GOT and far more important people lose their heads all the time so I wasnt attached to them.