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  1. Even though our watch has ended, we will stick to Unsullied rules for this retrospective. Be advised, I do not know if during the episode anything book-related will be discussed. This Forum is for Unsullied Members to post in: those who have vowed to not only not read the books, but also to not watch previews, read information on the Viewer's Guide, or seek any information outside of what has been IN THE EPISODES ONLY. For the purposes of The Habitat there are 4 categories of visitor: Unsullied = Only watch the show from HBO static to closing credits. Nothing else, nada, zilch, zip. = Welcome to post in here. Unspoiled = Haven't read the books. Watch the show plus ‘next time on’ previews and/or interviews/reviews and/or own GoT DVD boxsets and/or access HBO GoT content. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Partially-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read some of the books but none beyond where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Fully-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read either all of the books or past where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the Book Talk thread caters to you. Unless you fall into the Unsullied category above you should be in READ-ONLY mode in this thread (and sub-forum). Thank you for your cooperation.  HBO blurb: An up-close and personal report from the trenches of production that reveals the tears and triumphs of the cast and crew involved in the challenge of bringing the fantasy world of Westeros to life. Airdate 2019.05.26
  2. This Forum is for Unsullied Members to post in: those who have vowed to not only not read the books, but also to not watch previews, read information on the Viewer's Guide, or seek any information outside of what has been IN THE EPISODES ONLY. For the purposes of The Habitat there are 4 categories of visitor: Unsullied = Only watch the show from HBO static to closing credits. Nothing else, nada, zilch, zip. = Welcome to post in here. Unspoiled = Haven't read the books. Watch the show plus ‘next time on’ previews and/or interviews/reviews and/or own GoT DVD boxsets and/or access HBO GoT content. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Partially-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read some of the books but none beyond where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Fully-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read either all of the books or past where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the Book Talk thread caters to you. Unless you fall into the Unsullied category above you should be in READ-ONLY mode in this thread (and sub-forum). That also means NO LIKING OR REACTING TO POSTS. Thank you for your cooperation. Episode Synopsis: TBA
  3. Sorry, but this will go on for a while. The world that A Show has explored has been an invitation to wrestle with some weighty issues - might versus right (and the dance between them), the idea that noble deeds are not always rewarded (and are just as likely to be punished), the confounding idea that “noble” deeds might have terrible consequences, and an exploration of how ideas and expectations can follow from station of birth and family. I think it is an abdication of this invitation to not make it clear why Dany did what she did to Kings Landing - was it premeditated and tactical, a show of force that would cow the other kingdoms in Westeros to yield to her reign? Was it a fit of pique since her bestie Missendei was killed, or that her nephew no longer wanted to be her lover? Was it from “madness” (the TV version, not the DSM-V version)? I don’t think Season 8 answered that fundamental question. Dany was right about one thing: It isn't easy to imagine a world that's never been before and, as Tyrion would say later in the episode, almost impossible to create that world without a good narrative. This begs the question of why Dany didn’t try to tell her story to someone, to help them see her vision of what that world could look like. Dany’s definition of victory, of a broken wheel, is so poorly defined that I have no idea what it would entail: No more Cersei Lannister? No more aristocracy? Equitable redistribution of wealth? Is there a scenario where Dany deeply regretted her actions, but that KL needed to be made example of in order to avoid future bloodshed? Not that any of the above would be a legitimate reason for a war crime IMO, but we don’t get to have that moral debate because A Show doesn’t have the time for people to ask or for Dany to explain. In fact, A Show is in such a hurry to get to the end that Jon isn’t given an opportunity to talk with Dany and find out what was in her mind before he shrugs and kills her. Dany says “it was necessary” to execute prisoners, and Jon doesn’t ask why. Dany says that Cersei “used their innocence as a weapon against me. She thought it would cripple me”, but Jon doesn’t say ‘no, she was using your conscience against you - do you no longer have one’? What if Dany had said “do you think I like this? I feel sick about it. I don’t want power for myself, I want X”, and then she explicitly tells us what X is, what her vision is, what story she wants to bring into reality. Littlefinger: Every time I'm faced with a decision, I close my eyes and see the same picture. Whenever I consider an action, I ask myself: will this action help to make this picture a reality? Pull it out of my mind and into the world? The narrative doesn’t have time for Dany to articulate what it is that Dany has as her mental picture when she says “break the wheel”, so her actions (and by extension, Jon’s actions) have no narrative clarity and no moral meaning. This is an unforgivable error. What we here at the Spitball Wall have sought to do, what this grand experiment has been (to me), has been a quest to see if A Show could tell the story it wanted to tell without external resources - cast interviews, the creators putting their gloss on this scene or that, or websites that tell the backstory or fill in the blanks. If A Show was unable to sufficiently lay out what the stakes were and what each actor’s motivations were for something as momentous as Dany’s story this season, then it failed. The pacing has been a problem all season, and especially this episode. I think that at least most of this problem is the abbreviated seasons. If S7 felt like it was in too much of a hurry, S8 has felt like a series of boxes to be checked as quickly as possible. A fundamental problem with the last two seasons was that A Show had become addicted to unexpected plot twists, but now lacked the time to properly set up the motivations of the characters on both sides of those plot twists. This meant that much of the last two seasons felt random and forced, a shock-for-the-sake-of-shocking narrative that prized surprise and spectacle over the slow build and earned pay off. I suppose some might see Dany's flip to evil as a satisfying upending of expectations, but to me it felt like an unearned "shock" that undid the story of who Danaerys is that she has built up over these 8 seasons. I now turn specifically to the choice that Dany made to torch KL, and the reasons I think it is out of character for her. I think it makes no sense that the person who a few years ago (in the show timeline) locked away two of her dragons because of the death of Zala, the daughter of one poor man, would be OK with the death of thousands of innocents. Let’s walk thru that history… In S1, Dany risked her status as khaleesi and the wrath of Khal Drogo's Dothraki army in order to protect a group of women from being raped. Where did that person go? In S3… Jorah: If you want to sit on the throne your ancestors built, you must win it. That will mean blood on your hands before the thing is done. Dany: The blood of my enemies, not the blood of innocents. Where did that person go? In S5… Daario: On the day of the great games, gather all the Great Masters and Wise Masters and Worthy Masters you can find and slaughter them all. Dany: I am a queen, not a butcher. Where did that person go? For a minute, Dany decides to follow Daario’s advice, but Jorah changes her mind… Jorah: Herding the masters into pens and slaughtering them by the thousands is also treating men like beasts. The slaves you freed, brutality is all they've ever known. If you want them to know something else, you'll have to show it to them. Dany: And repay the slavers with what? Kindness? A fine? A stern warning? Jorah: It's tempting to see your enemies as evil, all of them, but there's good and evil on both sides in every war ever fought. Dany: Let the priests argue over good and evil. Slavery is real. I can end it. I will end it. And I will end those behind it. So has Dany come to see being a peasant in Westeros as being a form of slavery? Are we supposed to believe that her way of “ending” that form of slavery is by killing all the peasants? In this episode… Tyrion: She liberated the people of Slavers Bay. She liberated people of Kings Landing. She’ll go on liberating until the people of the world are free and she rules them all. Sorry, Tyrion, but that is BS. After Dany defeated the armada of Good, Wise, and Benevolent Masters in Slavers Bay, she didn’t kill all of the former slavers who were defeated. Instead, she executed 2 of the 3 leaders, who were the people standing in front of her. I would argue instead that Dany had been moving towards more and more strategic decapitation of her defeated enemies. She has moved from crucifying 100 Masters in S4, to a dozen khals in S6, to two out of the three slave masters in S6E9, to the single head of House Tarley in S7. If Dany was becoming more and more “mad”, wouldn’t she be moving more and more towards the wholesale slaughter of her enemies and those that follow her enemies, even after their defeat? Dany’s most recent victory (over a human enemy) was within about the last year of the show timeline and it was the victory over the Lannister forces at the wagon train. After the battle was won, Dany didn’t annihilate all the former lords and the defeated Lannister army. Instead, they are given a choice: Dany: I know what Cersei has told you. That I've come to destroy your cities, burn down your homes, murder you, and orphan your children. That's Cersei Lannister, not me. I'm not here to murder, and all I want to destroy is the wheel that has rolled over rich and poor to the benefit of no one but the Cersei Lannisters of the world. I offer you a choice-- bend the knee and join me. Together, we will leave the world a better place than we found it. Or refuse, and die. All except Randall Tarley (and Dickon, because he is Dickon) bend the knee and live. In The Bells, the residents of KL and the army defending it also explicitly made their choice known by ringing the bells (like at the end of a fight) and also by putting down their weapons. They are saying that they want to live in Dany’s world. Her response is to turn the city and people of KL to ash. I don’t get it. Because her choice is not explained, then Jon’s choice is incomprehensible, since we don’t know what he is choosing between. They wrecked Stannis Baratheon. I think there is a big difference between the sacrifice of one child for some promised benefit and the burning of an entire city for no explicit benefit. When I re-watched S5 I could see a few breadcrumbs that might, with a great deal of supposition and filling in of the blanks, indicate how desperate Stannis had become, how the idea of himself as the only one capable of saving Westeros, had made the unthinkable necessary. Perhaps I will re-watch S8 and figure out that Dany wasn’t actually wrecked, that there was sufficient motivation for her turn towards being a mass murderer. I don’t know if I will bother. And that makes me sad.
  4. David T. Cole

    Small Talk: Slaves To Gab

    The Small Talk topic is for: Introductions Off-topic chatter Having virtual tea with forum buddies This is NOT a topic for actual show discussion. When you want to talk about the show: Figure out the nature of the topic you want to talk about Look for an existing topic that matches or fits If there is NOT an existing topic that fits, CREATE ONE! Examples of topics that populate show forums include (but by no means are limited to): Character topics Episode topics Season topics Spoiler topics Speculation topics In the Media topics Favourite X topics ...you get the idea Happy trails beyond Small Talk!
  5. Are you a book reader (aka Bookwalker)? Then you should be in READ-ONLY mode in The Unsullied Habitat. DON'T POST. This is the habitat for the COMPLETELY UNSPOILED to talk to each other. OBSERVE ONLY. You can post in the regular Game Of Thrones forum.
  6. WELCOME TO THE UNSULLIED HABITAT! House Rules: Unsullied Habitat If you visit whilst in possession of any further knowledge, whether gained from other message boards, Unspoiled threads, Wikipedia, HBO or, gods* forbid even the books; then please, treat this subforum like a rare and delicate natural habitat – Look, But Do not Touch – Read, But Do not Post. This includes "Liking" someone's post. As tempting as it seems, DO NOT CLICK THE BUTTON. If, you believe you have spotted a Sullied poster in disguise (or out of disguise) please use the “report post” button at the bottom, right-hand corner of every post to bring it to our attention. IMPORTANT PLEASE READ: For the purposes of The Habitat there are 4 categories of visitor: UNSULLIED ONLY Watch the show from HBO static to closing credits. Nothing else, nada, zilch, zip. Welcome to post in here. UNSPOILED Haven't read the books. Watch the show plus ‘next time on’ previews and/or interviews/reviews and/or own GoT DVD boxsets and/or access HBO GoT content. Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Spoiler threads cater to you. PARTIALLY SPOILED BOOKWALKER Have read some of the books but none beyond where the show has broadcast. Please post in the main GoT forum. FULLY SPOILED BOOKWALKER Have read either all of the books or past where the show has broadcast. Please post in the main GoT forum, where the Book Talk threads cater for you. So this is your opportunity to observe the fabled Unsullied (Bookium Noknowledgus) in an environment created to protect and foster them from a harsh and indifferent world -- being a vulnerable and at-risk species with no natural defenses -- they must rely on others to protect them from poisonous book knowledge and spoilers. We, the Bookwalker Mods known as ‘White Cloaks’ are sworn to protect the Unsullied from all types of spoiler threats. The Unsullied are operating under the strictest interpretation of "unspoiled." Nothing but the show, from HBO static to closing credits as they want to see how well the show can do what it does without relying on extra content. To clarify; Unsullied and Unspoiled are not the same thing; for this reason members are prohibited from posting in both forums. We thank you in advance for your understanding and co-operation. * old, new, red or drowned
  7. Hey hey, the gangs all here - but who are we still missing? A Show has contracted to a core of characters and 3-4 significant locations, but there are still some loose ends. In descending order of importance: Ghost: Last Seen: S8E2 - YAY! Prior to That: At Castle Black? I am pretty sure he was absent from the Battle of the Bastards, and I don't remember him in any of the search for allies or camp scenes leading up to BotB. Nymeria: Last Seen: Retreating into the woods with her wolf pack, after Arya said "that's not you" (she wasn't going to join Arya on her trip back to Winterfell). Gilly and Little Sam: Last Seen: S8E2 - YAY! Prior to That: Leaving Old Town with Sam for the journey to Winterfell. I assume they are at Winterfell with Sam, but we just haven't seen them yet. Meera Reed: Last Seen: Leaving Bran and Winterfell, saying "I don't want to leave you, but when-- when they come, I need to be with my family." Melisandre, the Red Woman: Last Seen: Leaving Dragonstone for Volantis, telling Varys "Oh, I will return, dear Spider. One last time. I have to die in this strange country. Just like you." She might be the link between Dany's exploits in Essos and the battle between the Armies of the Dead and the Living. I would love to see her return to Westeros with an army of freed slaves and Red Priests and Priestesses, perhaps with Kinvara, the High Priestess of the Red Temple in Volantis. Kinvara told Tyrion and Varys "Daenerys has been sent to lead the people against the darkness in this war, and in the great war still to come." Daario: Last Seen: Getting dumped by Dany in Meereen. Also a possible link between the current battle and Dany's time in Essos. Jaquen H'ghar: Last Seen: Telling Arya "finally, a girl is No One", before Arya leaves the House of B&W to return to Westeros. Edmure Tully: Last Seen: At the end of S6, Walder Frey says that "Edmure is back in a cell." No idea of his fate since Arya wiped out House Frey. Robin Arryn: Last Seen: Pledging "(Sansa is) my cousin… We should help her" back in S6E04. Hot Pie: Last Seen: At an inn, making food. When Arya tells him to "try not to get killed", he responds "Ah, I won't. I'm like you, Arry. (sniff) I'm a survivor." Anguy (the Brotherhood archer): Last Seen: At the Brotherhood cave, just as Arya ran (and was then captured by The Hound). He wasn't at the Hound / Beric / Thoros reunion where they hung the three renegade members of The Brotherhood in S6E08. Salladhor Saan: Last Seen: In a hot tub in Braavos with some prostitutes, telling jokes and being recruited by Davos to ferry Stannis and his hired mercenaries to attack the Wildlings north of The Wall. Hill Tribes: Last Seen: With Tyrion in KL, before they were paid off "quite handsomely" to return home to the hills outside The Vale by Tywin. Anyone else I am missing?
  8. SilverStormm

    S08.E05: The Bells

    This Forum is for Unsullied Members to post in: those who have vowed to not only not read the books, but also to not watch previews, read information on the Viewer's Guide, or seek any information outside of what has been IN THE EPISODES ONLY. For the purposes of The Habitat there are 4 categories of visitor: Unsullied = Only watch the show from HBO static to closing credits. Nothing else, nada, zilch, zip. = Welcome to post in here. Unspoiled = Haven't read the books. Watch the show plus ‘next time on’ previews and/or interviews/reviews and/or own GoT DVD boxsets and/or access HBO GoT content. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Partially-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read some of the books but none beyond where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Fully-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read either all of the books or past where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the Book Talk thread caters to you. Unless you fall into the Unsullied category above you should be in READ-ONLY mode in this thread (and sub-forum). That also means NO LIKING OR REACTING TO POSTS. Thank you for your cooperation. Episode Synopsis: Varys betrays his queen, and Daenerys brings her forces to King's Landing.
  9. This Forum is for Unsullied Members to post in: those who have vowed to not only not read the books, but also to not watch previews, read information on the Viewer's Guide, or seek any information outside of what has been IN THE EPISODES ONLY. For the purposes of The Habitat there are 4 categories of visitor: Unsullied = Only watch the show from HBO static to closing credits. Nothing else, nada, zilch, zip. = Welcome to post in here. Unspoiled = Haven't read the books. Watch the show plus ‘next time on’ previews and/or interviews/reviews and/or own GoT DVD boxsets and/or access HBO GoT content. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Partially-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read some of the books but none beyond where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Fully-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read either all of the books or past where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the Book Talk thread caters to you. Unless you fall into the Unsullied category above you should be in READ-ONLY mode in this thread (and sub-forum). That also means NO LIKING OR REACTING TO POSTS. Thank you for your cooperation. Episode Synopsis: The survivors plan their next steps; Cersei makes a power move.
  10. This Forum is for Unsullied Members to post in: those who have vowed to not only not read the books, but also to not watch previews, read information on the Viewer's Guide, or seek any information outside of what has been IN THE EPISODES ONLY. For the purposes of The Habitat there are 4 categories of visitor: Unsullied = Only watch the show from HBO static to closing credits. Nothing else, nada, zilch, zip. = Welcome to post in here. Unspoiled = Haven't read the books. Watch the show plus ‘next time on’ previews and/or interviews/reviews and/or own GoT DVD boxsets and/or access HBO GoT content. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Partially-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read some of the books but none beyond where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Fully-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read either all of the books or past where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the Book Talk thread caters to you. Unless you fall into the Unsullied category above you should be in READ-ONLY mode in this thread (and sub-forum). That also means NO LIKING OR REACTING TO POSTS. Thank you for your cooperation. Episode Synopsis: Arya looks to prove her worth as a fighter.
  11. This Forum is for Unsullied Members to post in: those who have vowed to not only not read the books, but also to not watch previews, read information on the Viewer's Guide, or seek any information outside of what has been IN THE EPISODES ONLY. For the purposes of The Habitat there are 4 categories of visitor: Unsullied = Only watch the show from HBO static to closing credits. Nothing else, nada, zilch, zip. = Welcome to post in here. Unspoiled = Haven't read the books. Watch the show plus ‘next time on’ previews and/or interviews/reviews and/or own GoT DVD boxsets and/or access HBO GoT content. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Partially-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read some of the books but none beyond where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Fully-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read either all of the books or past where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the Book Talk thread caters to you. Unless you fall into the Unsullied category above you should be in READ-ONLY mode in this thread (and sub-forum). That also means NO LIKING OR REACTING TO POSTS. Thank you for your cooperation. Episode Synopsis: Jaime faces judgement and Winterfell prepares for the battle to come.
  12. SilverStormm

    S08.E01: Winterfell

    This Forum is for Unsullied Members to post in: those who have vowed to not only not read the books, but also to not watch previews, read information on the Viewer's Guide, or seek any information outside of what has been IN THE EPISODES ONLY. For the purposes of The Habitat there are 4 categories of visitor: Unsullied = Only watch the show from HBO static to closing credits. Nothing else, nada, zilch, zip. = Welcome to post in here. Unspoiled = Haven't read the books. Watch the show plus ‘next time on’ previews and/or interviews/reviews and/or own GoT DVD boxsets and/or access HBO GoT content. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Partially-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read some of the books but none beyond where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Fully-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read either all of the books or past where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the Book Talk thread caters to you. Unless you fall into the Unsullied category above you should be in READ-ONLY mode in this thread (and sub-forum). That also means NO LIKING OR REACTING TO POSTS. Thank you for your cooperation. Episode Synopsis: Daenerys arrives at Winterfell, and Jon Snow gets some big news.
  13. Our topic to discuss a rewatch of season 7, prior to the premiere of the final season on April 14.
  14. WhiteStumbler

    Season 5 Recap

    General Thoughts: Seeing the Bolton sigil on the towers of Winterfell still made me angry. The season starts with a flashback, and Young Cersei is told she will have three children. Was she lying to Catelyn Stark when she described her youngest, a black-haired beauty who was lost to a fever? Dorne was just as boring as I remember, but WOW does it look great. Amazing sets and locations. The things with Jon being killed by the Nights Watch and Stannis killing Shireen still stick in my craw. Jon's killing is crap storytelling, and feels especially manipulative in retrospect, though I guess it does get Jon out of the Nights Watch. Stannis killing Shireen is frustrating because they never sold the suffering of his army before he agreed to burn his own daughter. Have some scenes with soldiers talking about how bad things are. Have some men dropping from hunger. SOMETHING was missing to cause Stannis to do a 180 turn from "you are my daughter" to "yup, who has a match?". Meryn Trant was plenty killable without making him a pedophile. I still don't know what the High Sparrow was up to - pious holy man, or rank fraud? At Kings Landing: Cersei met the High Sparrow and rearmed his followers (in an attempt to get some leverage over the "smirking whore from Highgarden"), recreating the Faith Militant for the first time in over 200 years. The Mountain shuddered back to life. Loras Tyrell is seized with suspicious ease by the Faith Militant and imprisoned for being gay. Jaime enlists Bron for a rescue attempt in Dorne, and they sail past the Sapphire Isle on the way to bring Myrcella home. The Queen of Thornes returns to Kings Landing, there is a inquest into the sexual predilections of Loras, and Margaery is seized by the Faith while Tommen sits there like an idiot. Why didn't the Queen of Thorns stop the deliveries of food from Highgarden, as she had told the High Sparrow she would if her children weren't released? Cersei came to deliver some platitudes and leftover venison to Margaery (and to gloat a bit) before the High Sparrow seized her and threw her into a cell of her own. HA! Cersei confesses to bedding Lancel and, as atonement, is shorn of her hair and forced to walk naked through a torrent of excrement and abuse back to the Red Keep, where she is met by the newest member of the Kingsguard, Mountainstein. In Dorne: We met the ruler of Dorne, Oberyn's older brother who (reasonably) points out that Oberyn died in a trial by combat, so there is nothing to "avenge". Now in Dorne, Jaime wants to bury the bodies of the patrol they kill, saying "corpses raise questions, questions raise armies". Bad writing that the very minute that Jaime and Bronn try to rescue Myrcella, the Sand Snakes (yawn) try to capture her. Bad footwork in the fight scene as well. Bronn almost dies from poison, but is saved by Younger Snake after telling her that she is the most beautiful woman in the world. The ruler of Dorne (I am so bored with this story-line I can't be bothered to look up his name) agrees to sent Trystane and Myrcella back to KL with Jaime, provided that the wedding between the two kids proceeds and that Trystane is given a seat on the Small Council. Elaria poisons Myrcella with a kiss, and Myrcella tells Jaime "I'm glad you're my father" before dying in her father/uncle's arms. In Meereen: Varys and Tyrion arrive in the east, and the Spider convinces The Imp to travel to Meereen to meet the Mother of Dragons. Where did Mossador come from, and how is Dany suddenly taking advice from him? Wasn't he just a stand-in for the freed slaves (and later sacrificial "victim"), and why did they just drop him in the middle of the action with no intro? Tyrion discovered a new-found inability to lay with prostitutes in Volantis, and was promptly captured by Jorah. Dany learned from Barristan that Rhaegar loved singing in the streets of KL and didn't like killing, shortly before being killed by a bunch of Sons of the Harpy NPCs. It still bugs me that the Unsullied would be patrolling the streets with long spears, instead of the shortsword (Missandei said “(The Unsullied) begin their training at five. Every day they drill from dawn to dusk until they have mastered the shortsword, the shield, and the three spears.”) Dany punished two of her dragons by locking them away after Drogon ate a child, then fed them one of the Masters of Meereen. She then does a heel-turn and agreed to reopen the fighting pits, but only to free men. Tyrion doesn't enjoy the company of Jorah, complaining of the "long sullen silences and the occasional punch in the face: The Mormont Way". Tyrion then sees a flying dragon near the Doom, they are attacked by the Stone Men, and Jorah gets greyscale. Tyrion tells Jorah of his father's death at the hands of the Nights Watch mutineers, and they are captured by slavers shortly after that. Tyrion and Dany meet, with an assist by the exiled Jorah. Dany looked gutted as she banished Jorah for the second time. Things get crazy at the fighting pit, and the situation looks grim until Drogon shows up and he and Dany fly away. Why didn't the Sons of the Harpy kill Melisandre, Tyrion, Daario, Jorah, Grey Worm, etc. after Dany flew away? Not as tempting a target as the Queen, but killing off all of her advisers seemed a logical thing to do after the fire breathing dragon wasn't around to stop them. Varys and Tyrion were reunited. In the North: Lord Royce (of the Vale) threw some viscous shade on his future Lord, saying of Robin "he swings a sword like a girl with palsy". Brienne's inner suffering and external lashing out at Pod was the result of her feeling that she failed to protect Arya. She tries to approach the other Stark sister after Pod spots her at an inn, but is rebuffed by Sansa. She offers to begin training Pod to be a knight (I am resisting making jokes about his spear-work). On their way north, Littlefinger sold Sansa on the idea of becoming a wife for the second time by telling Sansa "You've been running all your life. Terrible things happened to your family and you weep. You sit alone in a dark room, mourning their fates. You've been a bystander to tragedy from the day they executed your father. Stop being a bystander, you hear me? Stop running. There's no justice in the world. Not unless we make it. You loved your family. Avenge them." In Winterfell with the Boltons, LF tells Roose "I assure you she's still a virgin. Tyrion never consummated the marriage. By the law of the land, she's no man's wife." This doesn't make sense. If the advice of the Small Council and consultation with the High Septon were required to annul a betrothal, what would be required to set aside a marriage (even if the couple is accused of regicide and the groom of Hand-icide)? The bar might be a bit lower since this isn't a royal marriage, but it still nagged at me. Sansa met Reek (Reunion! But not the happy kind!) and is married to Ramsay in the snow next to the weirwood tree where Ned sharpened his sword and Bran looked at a comet in the sky years ago. She is then raped by Ramsay while Reek is forced to watch. Ramsay and 20 good men do serious damage to Stannis' army. I call shenanigans. Stannis sends Davos back to Castle Black for fresh horses and supplies, but before he leaves he gives Shireen a hand-carved stag. Shireen tells her father about two Targaryen brothers who fought over the Iron Throne, and gives Stannis implicit permission to kill her with this bit of dialogue... Stannis: Sometimes a person has to choose. Sometimes the world forces his hand. If a man knows what he is and remains true to himself the choice is no choice at all. He must fulfill his destiny and become who he is meant to be. However much he may hate it. Shireen: It's all right, Father. Stannis: You don't even know what I'm talking about. Shireen: It doesn't matter. I want to help you. Is there any way I can help? Stannis: Yes, there is. Shireen: Good. I want to. I'm the Princess Shireen of House Baratheon. And I'm your daughter. Stannis: (sighs) Forgive me. Stannis then burns his OWN FREAKING DAUGHTER at the stake in an inexplicable heel-turn. More shenanigans. The result of the murder of Shireen is that half his army deserts with all the horses, Selyse kills herself, and Mel flees to Castle Black. Way to go, Stannis. He then tries to besiege Winterfell, his army is broken, and he is executed by Brienne (who was called away just in time to miss Sansa's SOS signal). Reek and Sansa kill one of Ramsay's girlfriends and jump over the walls of Winterfell into a snowbank. In Braavos: Arya learned more of the mysteries of the Faceless Men at the House of Black and White on her way to becoming a FAWN (Faceless Assassin Warrior Ninja). Arya is given her first assassin assignment, and meets the Thin Man who is selling the Braavosi equivalent of trip insurance, but failing to pay off on the policy when there is a claim. Arya is ordered to kill the Thin Man, but sees Mace Tyrell arrive in Braavos with Meryn Trant. Mace tries to teach one of the Iron Bankers to sing, then Ser Meryn turns out to be a pedophile (because, why not?), and Arya crosses another name off of her list. ETA: Arya is punished for failing to kill the Thin Man by loosing her sight. At The Wall: Mance Rayder is burned at the stake by Stannis, but Jon puts him out of his misery with an arrow to the heart. Jon is nominated to be Lord Commander by Sam, and wins on a tie-breaker vote from Maester Aemon (every vote matters!). Janos Slynt getting executed never gets old. Stannis drops a hint about Jon's parentage, when his wife says that Jon is "a bastard by some tavern slut", and Stannis says "Perhaps, but that wasn't Ned Stark's way." Mel tried to seduce Jon and, after being rebuffed, turned at the door and said "you know nothing, Jon Snow". Whoa. Stannis revealed his guilt at about giving Shireen the doll that gave her greyscale, and said "you are the Princess Shireen of House Baratheon, and you are my daughter." There is a nice musical callback here to Shireen's nursery rhyme about "The birds have scales ♪ And the fish take wing ♪ I know, I know ♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪" Aemon says to Sam "A Targaryen alone in the world... it's a terrible thing", and moments later Jon Snow walks in. Subtle foreshadowing? Stannis marched on Winterfell after Jon refused his offer to become a Stark. Maester Aemon told Gilly get Baby Sam "south, gillyflower... before it's too late." Later he talks to his brother Aegon in a dream, saying "Aeg! I dreamed that I was old", and gets one of the few peaceful deaths in Game of Thrones. Sam and Gilly make love FINALLY. Sam gives Olly permission to kill Jon, saying "Sometimes a man has to make hard choices, choices that might look wrong to others, but you know are right in the long run." Jon and Thormund arrived in Hardhome, where Thormund killed the Lord of Bones and Jon tried to convince the Free Folk to trust him and come south of The Wall. We meet Wun Wun, some of the FF agree to get on the boats, then the dogs start barking and HOLY FORKING SHIRTBALLS! Jon kills one White Walker with Longclaw, but the White Walkers raise tens of thousands of blue-eyes soldiers for their army. Jon returns to The Wall and the Wildlings pass thru, and he sends Sam, Gilly and Baby Sam to Oldtown so he can become a maester. Jon is stabbed to death by members of the Nights Watch, including Thorne and Olly. Ugh.
  15. DirewolfPup

    Season 6 Recap

    The final season is upon us. In my continued determination to rewatch A Show from episode 1 - 67, I am now at the point where I can recap Season 6. WhiteStumbler provided the optimal format, so I will continue in his tradition. Get a grog of ale. This is a long one with lots of locations. General Thoughts: Overall, season 6 provided a lot of fan service after all the unexpected killings, torture and rape of some of our favorite characters. Aside from a few notable deaths, and a few gut wrenchers, it was one of the more enjoyable seasons to watch. We will never know if the High Sparrow was a “pious holy man, or rank fraud.” Lots of stupid, frustrating scenes. Summer committing dog suicide by jumping into knives comes to mind. Pycelle murdered by 6 children with daggers. Why? Lots of stabbing in general this season come to think of it. Also, the Hound lives! Tries to live a simple life with some religious folks who ended up killed by some rogue brotherhood without banners men. The Hound tracks them down and kills them. At The Wall: Season 5 ended with the brutal murder of Jon Snow by his fellow brothers of the night's watch. Notably Ollie and Thorne. His body is discovered by Ser Davos and quickly assembles a team of half a dozen loyalists including Edd. Desperate for help, Davos sends Edd off to find Tormund and the wildling gang to avenge his murder. Davos, in desperation, asks Melissandre if she knows of any spells or witchcraft that could bring him back. We get the reveal that Melissandre is an old, old witch that appears young when wearing her magic bejeweled necklace. This confirms that some god out there has some power. We presume the Lord of Light. Could be anyone really. Inspired by the brotherhood encounter with the resurrected Thoros of Mir, Meli tries her hardest to bring Jon back and succeeds! Everyone is aghast, including Meli. She declares Jon Snow her new, one-true king. While many of the night's watch and wildlings view Jon as some sort of god, Tormund isn't convinced since a god wouldn't have "a pecker that small." As Jon's last act, he hangs all the men who murdered him. Thorne admits that given the chance, he'd do the same thing over. Ollie just glares and says nothing. Jon passes off his cloak and sword to Edd and declares that his watch is ended. He stays just long enough for Sansa and Brienne to show up and have the long awaited Stark Sibling reunion we've been waiting 5 seasons for. After getting a threatening letter from Ramsay, Sansa convinces Jon to assemble an army and take back Winterfell. Jon passes of Lord Commander to Edd (guess no election this time?) and we don't see the wall again until... See "North of the Wall" section. At Kings Landing: Cersei hears word that a boat is in the harbor. "Mycella" she says with a sigh of relief. Jamie brings Cersei a coffined Mycella with a golden shroud over the top. Just like the prophecy. Jamie swears to Cersei that they will get their revenge. Because Cersei is awaiting trial, she is not allowed to attend Mycella's funeral. Jamie threatens the High Sparrow to no avail and tells Tommen to visit his mother. Tommen goes to Cersei and apologizes for not saving her from being imprisoned or her walk of atonement. In a bit of foreshadowing, Tommen says that he should have protected Maergary and his mother. That Cersei would have pulled down the roof of the Sept on all of them if roles were reversed. Tommen tries and fails to out maneuver the High Sparrow. Jamie and Cersei try to force their way back into political favor on the small council. She warns the council and Lady Olenna that Maergary will soon make her walk of atonement. They devise a plan to let the Tyrell army into KL to rescue her and slaughter the sparrows. This plot ultimately fails because Maergary saved herself by bringing Tommen into the “Light of the Seven.” The High Sparrow now has a hold on the crown. The High Sparrow makes it clear to Maergary that Olenna is next on his hit list. Maergary gives her grandmother a secret rose note while telling her to go home and save herself. Olenna obliges and gets out of dodge. Jamie is removed from the King’s Guard and told to lead the troops to recapture Riverrun. Tommen, under the council of the HS of course, decides to outlaw the barbarak practice of trial by combat. That was Cersei’s ace in the hole since she has the Mountain. Qyburn confirms to her that the “rumors are true” and then some. Loras’s trial goes through its paces. He confesses to all the sins. He renounces his titles, house, and connections to join the faith militant and get the mark cut into his head. Now, it’s Cersei’s turn. Where is she? Not here. She’s still at the red keep. The Mountainstein is keeping Tommen in his room. The Sept is blown up in Wildfire. RIP Maergary, Loras, Kevan Lannister, Lancel, HS, Father Tyrell, and hundreds of other people. Tommen, upon receiving word that all the previous people were dead, including his beloved wife, kills himself by falling out of the window of the high tower. With Tommen’s death, Cersei assumes the throne because… reasons? I guess there’s no one around to say yes or no anymore. Jamie arrives home to see her crowned. No one looks especially happy about any of this. In Dorne: After making peace as sloppily as possible, to no one's surprise Elaria killed prince Doran early in the season as soon as he receives word that Mycella was poisoned. Trystane, meanwhile, is living on the boat he rode to KL on (why?) which was boarded by two of the Sand Snake girls. He's killed by a spear through the head. Good knowing ya, I guess. We don't see them again (yay!) until the very end of the season when a mourning Lady Olenna and Varys make a deal with Elaria to fight for Dany's claim. Mainly because they both desperately want to kill Lannisters. In Meereen: When we left our eastern compadres, Tyrion, Varys, Messandi, and Grey Worm were left in charge of the city. Tyrion goes to unclip the dragons, but kept them in the catacombs. The ships in the harbor were burned by the Sons of the Harpy and financed by masters of Astapor, Yunkai, and Volantis. Can’t have a free city doing well. Bad for the slavery business. Tyrion brings in the masters of Astapor, Yunkai, and Volantis to strike a deal for peace. They are given 7-years to rid the cities of slaves. Tyrion employs the sermoning Red Women a la Melissandre to speak in favor of the dragon queen. Varys leaves to barter an alliance with Dorne. Peace almost works for a brief moment. Until the city is attacked by the slave cities. Daario and Jorah are on the hunt to find Dany. They find her ring and that leads them to the Dothraki sacred city that holds Dany. Specifically, widows of Khals are meant to stay in Vars Dothrak. She of course did not, so needs to be reviewed to see if she’ll be accepted, killed, or something else. She calls the Khal and his men “small” in mind and ambition. Says she should rule. They laugh in her face and threaten to rape her. So she burns the whole hut down. Another naked fire lady montage which always works to gain her new followers. She should employ the tactic more often. Jorah reveals his greyscale. Everyone in this world seems to know what greyscale is. Even Gilly. Must not be a regionally affected disease. Dany commands Jorah to leave and find a cure, because she wants to rule Westeros with Jorah at her side. She gathers up her Dothraki and Drogon and head home. Dany arrives during the siege on the city. The groups meet. Dany asks them to surrender, which seems ridiculous since by all objective accounts they are losing. Dany unleashes Drogon with excite the other two into breaking free from the catacombs they were kept in. They lay waste to one particular ship. Dothraki kill all the Sons of the Harpy on the beach. Tyrion says thank you, our queen does love ships, implying that they will steal the armada. They say as punishment, one of the masters must die to send a message. While the one shoved to the front was kneeling, begging for his life, Grey Worm quickly slashed the throats of the two standing behind him. Very clever. Now, Dany has ships. Alliances with Yara/Theon, Dorne, Tyrells are fixed. She leaves Daario behind and claimed she felt nothing when she cast him aside. Cold-hearted dragon lady! She’s officially on ships headed to Westeros. Huzzah! In the North: Sansa and Theon are on the run. Ramsay has an "almost" sweet moment while he mourned Miranda's death. The almost is because he offers her as meat for the hounds in lieu of a proper burial. Ramsay sends his best men and hounds after Sansa and Theon. Here's a big, gaping plot hole. He sent 4 men with 2-3 dogs. Really? That's it? That's not enough, but without the lack of men after them, Brienne and Pod wouldn't have overtaken them. But they did and Brienne once again swore to protect Sansa to fulfill her oath to Catelyn. Theon asks Sansa if he can return to the Iron Islands. Sansa complies after thanking him for saving her life. From there, Sansa, Brienne and Pod meet up with Jon Snow at the Wall before deciding to assemble an army and march on Winterfell. Meanwhile, Ramsay's father, Roose, chastises Ramsay for using Sansa as one of his playthings. Roose's wife gives birth to a son. Ramsay, upon hearing the news, immediately stabs his father and sends for his stepmother and baby brother. In a horrific act that still stings to watch, he feeds them both to his hounds. With no more father or rivals, Ramsay declares himself Lord of Winterfell. All houses are beckoned to pledge their allegiance to Ramsay. The Umbers decided to kick it up a notch. They say bowing means nothing. Vows mean nothing. Instead, they brought Rickon and Osha as a present. Poor ShaggyDog's head was on display as proof of Stark-hood. Umber says this is because Jon Snow let wildlings south of the wall. Also, Ramsay kills Osha while eating an apple. Littlefinger meets in the Vale and manipulates Robin into moving forces against the Boltons to avenge Sansa. Sansa and LF have a secret rendezvous with Brienne on guard. Sansa confronts LF on his knowledge of Ramsay’s proclivity for violence. She refuses his apology and refuses his troops… at least initially. The hunt for houses to support the fight included many failures. Only smaller houses were showing their loyalty. We get introduced to the lovely Lyanna Mormont. Davos once again proves his worth by wrapping her into the fold. With the few troops they have, Snow/Sansa/Davos/Tormund meet Ramsay to discuss the upcoming Battle of the Bastards! The battle starts by playing shoot the Stark. ZigZag you dumb Rickon dolt. ZIGZAG!! Ramsay arrows him through the heart just before the reunion with Jon. Whomp whomp. Jon charges in anger and quickly the whole group gets surrounded. When all seemed lost, Jon almost suffocates to death under all the bodies, then the Knights of the Vale arrive to save the day! Sansa keeps this from Jon for… reasons? While storming Winterfell, Wun Wun is shot with enough arrows to kill him, but not before breaking down the door. Jon beats the crap out of Ramsay’s face. The Bolton banners drop and for the first time since Season 2, Stark banners fly once again at Winterfell. Later, Sansa kills Ramsay by releasing his own starving hounds on him. Poetic justice. This episode is so well made. Even knowing how it turns out, it’s shot and flowed so perfectly. One of the best episodes of the series. They quickly disposed of all the piles of fallen soldiers with time? Magic? Hard work from the surviving men? Who knows. LF approaches Sansa with a “lovely picture.” Him on the throne with Sansa at his side. When she stops his advances and walks away, he throws out a suggestion that she should rule the north, not a bastard. Insinuating that he doesn’t have the name, but the people will give it to him because man > woman in GoT world. Lo and behold, that’s what happens. Jon is declared King of the North. Sansa and LF exchange knowing glances. In Braavos: Arya is still blind and begging in the streets. A Girl decides to humiliate and beat her more by smacking her multiple times in the face with a stick. I guess this is considered training in the free city of Braavos. For almost half the season, we see her full on blind-training montage. First in the streets until she manages to get off one hit to A Girl. Then J'aqen Hagar brings her back to the house of black and white for more blind-training. We're treated to several minutes of A Girl knocking Arya down, hits to the face, gut punches, you name it. Very tedious to watch. She declared herself “No-one” even with the promise of returning her eyesight if she admitted to being Arya Stark. This seemed sufficiently tortured for the gods, and they gave her eyesight back. She’s been tasked with killing another on the list, an actress named Lady Crane. After meeting her and growing fond of her, Arya refuses to kill her and is banished from the faceless men. She goes into hiding. J’aqen tells A Girl that she can kill Arya. A Girl and Arya have a few chase scenes around Braavos with lots of stabbing (and still running?) before Arya lures A Girl back into her hiding lair. Arya wicks out the lights makes the room dark. Now, this previously blind girl has the upper hand and successfully kills A Girl. She brings her face back to the house of black and white. J’aqen declares her no one. She declares herself Arya Stark, and she’s going home. North of the Wall: Bran! Oh, how we've missed you. He was completely absent from Season 5. He is training to become the the three eyed raven. We see his visions. Vision #1) Brandon, Ned, Lyanna, and Benjen as children. We see Hodor as a lad named Willis. And he can talk! A middle-aged Nann scolded Willis for trying to play knight with the Stark children. Said he's a stable boy and to let him be. Vision #2) We see mid-war Ned with Howland Reed meet at the tower where Rhaegar was keeping his sister. Then,l the greatest swordsman who ever lived (who’s name escapes me) was stabbed in the back by Howland. We hear Lyanna scream. Bran calls out to his father who seems to hear him. Vision #3) Next we see the birth of White Walkers. Created by the Children of the Forest as a defense against man. A human man gets dragonstone ceremonially shoved into his chest by the CotF. Meera is bored of sitting around and watching two guys zoned out and attached to a tree. Can't blame her. Hodor is terrible for conversation and eating nothing but moss would certainly make me irate. Bran decides that he doesn’t like getting his visions interrupted by the three-eyed raven. He ventures off on his own, and stupidly gets grabbed by the Night King. Somehow, this means their cave sanctuary is no longer protected. They hurry to pack up and leave…. Oh but wait… how about another mission where they’re incapacitated in a trance holding a tree. Sounds like a grand idea! Hodor is freaking out. Meera is screaming for Bran to wake up and warg into Hodor to save them all. Bran wargs Hodor while he’s in his trance and looking at Willis. This causes Willis/Hodor’s mind to seizure and turns a nice, but simple stableboy into “Hold the Door” Hodor. Also, Summer just jumps into a bunch of dagger-holding skeletons for… reasons? While fleeing, Bran and Meera are rescued by a half-dead Benjen Stark. Horray! He gives them safe passage to the wall and bids them adieu. Bran hunkers down and checks out one more vision. It’s the vision! The one we waited for! Confirming that Jon Snow is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna. In Iron Islands: Here we go again with the Iron Islands. Yes, they’re back! And mildly interesting! Yara is exhausted with Balon’s insistence on this siege of the Westerosi mainlands. Balon encounters his brother Euron on the rickety bridge of death. Surprise, Euron’s decided to kill Balon and take the Iron Islands for himself. After Balon’s death and sweet funeral, Theon makes it home. Yara yells at him. For not going with her when he had the chance and for coming back after the death of their father. She presumed he was there to take the throne from her. He insists that, no, he wants Yara as their leader. He said as much during the King’s Moot. Yara had majority support until Euron showed up. His grand vision included building ships and sailing to Meeren to give Dany his “big cock” and had in marriage. The idiot Iron born love this idea and chose Euron to hold the crown. Yara and Theon flee to join Dany first with about 100 ships. In East/Central Westeros: Sam and Gilly travel south. First by boat, then by cart. Sam stops at the Tarly household to hopefully have a place for Gilly to stay while he’s learning to be a maester. His mom and sister are very friendly and lovely. His father was as awful as Sam described him. Making comments about his weight and disposition. Of course no one believed Sam killed a WW or a Thenn. In the process, Gilly gives away that she’s a wildling. This sends Lord Tarly into a full on tizzy. He points to the foreshadowing sword of the Tarly house, Heartsbane. One of the few Valyrian steel swords left. In a sweep of courage, Sam takes Gilly and little Sam in the dead of night along with the sword. They end in the Citadel where Sam gets his Belle library scene from Beauty and the Beast. In the Riverlands: The Blackfish took back Riverrun from the Freys. The Freys are terrible at everything, so Jamie was sent to go reclaim the castle. Brienne was sent to get the Blackfish to meet up with Sansa. He decides against it and chooses to stay in the castle. With some failed parleys and a few direct threats of launching an alive baby over the walls, Edmure relents and walks into the Riverrun and commands the city to stand down and let the Lannister army in. Walder celebrates the win, while Jamie corrects him saying the Lannisters won because of Walder’s inability to hold a single castle. “Why do we need you?” Arya heads over and feeds Walder his sons before slitting his throat.
  16. WhiteStumbler

    Season 6 Recap

    I still think the execution of Jon by his NW brothers was terribly manipulative, but it is a nice loophole for Jon to escape the NW while still remaining ‘honorable”. At the Wall: Ghost’s mournful howls are a haunting opening to the season. Davos discovers Jon’s dead corpse, and Edd releases Ghost. Thorn leads a meeting of the Nights Watch and blames Jon for his own death, saying “he forced a terrible choice upon us”. Edd is sent to rally the Free Folk to save the NW men who remain loyal to Jon, though this doesn’t make a lot of sense without a living Jon, which happens later. One of the NW loyalists says “It's a sad fucking statement if Dolorous Edd is our only chance.” We learn that Melisandre is old beyond old. Castle Black is taken (with little resistance) by Edd and the Wildlings (my next band name) and Jon’s assassins are put into cells. Davos convinced Mel to try to bring Jon back with magic. She gives him a pre-resurrection spa treatment night, but everyone gives up before… it works! Mel asks “after you died, where did you go? What did you see?” but Jon, as usual, knows nothing. Mel then says “the Lord let you come back for a reason. Stannis was not the prince who was promised, but someone has to be.” Jon sees Edd again: Edd: Your eyes are still brown. Is that still you in there? Jon: I think so. Hold off on burning my body for now. Edd: (laughs) That's funny. (pause) You sure that's still you in there? Jon executes the NW traitors as his last act as Lord Commander and a member of the Nights Watch. Thorne says “I fought, I lost. Now I rest. But you, Lord Snow, you'll be fighting their battles forever.” Watching Jon and Sansa reunite STILL made me tear up. Sansa meets Littlefinger in the remains of Molestown, asking him “did you know about Ramsay? If you didn't know, you're an idiot. If you did know, you're my enemy.” Slimyfinger drops the intel that the Blackfish has reformed the Tully armies and retaken Riverrun. Sansa sends Brienne to ask the Blackfish to support her claim, then Jon, Sansa, Davos, the Red Woman, and Tormund leave Castle Black, leaving Dolorous Edd in charge. Jon then asks the Wildlings to fight with him against the Boltons, saying “You shouldn't have to come to Winterfell with me. I shouldn't be asking you. It's not the deal we made. I need you with me if we're going to beat them, and we need to beat them if you're going to survive.” Wun Wun says “Snow”, and the other Wildlings go along - no kneeling, just a handshake. Sansa, Davos, and Jon meet with Lyanna Mormont of Bear Island. Davos turns the tide, saying “there's no hiding from this. We have to fight (the dead) and we need to do it together.” She commits 62 men to the Stark cause. They have less success with the current Lord Glover, who refuses his support, saying “House Stark is dead.” Beyond the Wall: Bran and Max von Sydow as the 3 Eyed Raven visit a happy, peaceful, Bolton-free Winterfell and see a young Ned, his sister Lyanna, and Willis (the future Hodor). Bran in a vision watches the Children of the Forest create the first White Walker by pushing a piece of dragonglass into his heart. When Bran awakes and confronts one of the Children, she states “We were at war... our sacred trees cut down. We needed to defend ourselves.” I wonder if the “sacred trees” were weirwood trees? I also wonder why are the CotF helping Bran, who also has the blood of the First Men (their mortal enemies) in his veins? Bran returns alone to the tree where the first WW was created, but now it is frozen and the army of the dead stands in their cold ranks. The Night King touches Bran on the arm and he wakes up, yelling “he saw me!” At this point when I first watched it, I remember thinking that Bran’s “mark” would allow the Night King and the Army of the Dead to break thru The Wall. WRONG. The Night King and the army of the dead come for Bran at the Root Dude cave. Meera kills a White Walker, Summer dies defending Bran who is in a trance with the 3 Eyed Raven, watching his father (as a kid) at Winterfell getting ready to leave for The Vale. The NK kills the 3ER, who dissolves into black ribbons in Bran’s vision. What appears to be the last of the Children of the Forest sacrifices herself to buy them time. Willis / Young Hodor has a fit in Bran’s vision, while Hodor is killed by zombonies as he holds the door and Meera drags Bran into the night. She continues to drag him thru a dark forest, while his visions show a rewatch of the entire series in a few seconds. They are tracked by the Army of the Dead, but are rescued by a masked horseman. This figure turns out to be Only Partly Undead Benjen! He was stabbed by a White Walker and left to turn, but was found by one of the Children, who stopped the Walkers magic by plunging a shard of dragonglass into his heart. Benjen tells Bran that the Night King will find his way to the realms of men, and that Bran must be waiting for him when he does. Benjen takes his leave of Bran and Meera, saying he cannot cross The Wall. Bran has a vision at the castle he visited before (where the Kingsguard who fought with two swords at once was stabbed in the back by Howland Reed), and sees Young Ned rush up the stairs to find his dying sister and a newborn Baby Jon, and Lyanna implores Ned “if Robert finds out, he'll-- you know he will. You have to protect him. Promise me, Ned, promise me.” At Winterfell: Sansa and Reek are nearly captured by Bolton soldiers, but are rescued by Brienne and Pod (who kills his first man since saving Tyrion’s life by killing a Kingsguard at the Battle of Blackwater). Reek takes another step towards being Theon as he kills a Bolton soldier, and Sansa accepts Brienne as her sworn sword (tears). Ramsay kills Roose (with a Karstark watching) before having his stepmother and half-brother torn to pieces by dogs because he “wanted to be an only child”. Reek/Theon tells Sansa he is going home. Lord Umber brings Ramsay Rickon and Osha (and Shaggydog’s head) to Ramsay. Ramsay kills Osha. This guy is just the f*cking WORST. He then sends a letter to Jon, telling him “Winterfell is mine, bastard, come and see.” As a bonus, he reveals that he holds Rickon captive and threatens Sansa with gang rape. The Stark / Wildling army camps at the same place that Stannis had camped previously. On the eve of battle, Davos finds a charred stag, the same one he carved for Shireen Baratheon. Jon asks Mel not to bring him back if he falls in battle. There is a HUGE battle. Rickon is killed by Ramsay, Tormund kills Umber by tearing out his throat with his teeth, the Stark / Wildling forces are nearly obliterated, but the Knights of the Vale arrive (Sansa was seen writing a letter earlier - must have been to Littlefinger) and save the day. Wun Wun batters down the gate at Winterfell where Ramsay has retreated but dies in the courtyard. Jon batters Ramsay nearly to death, and the Bolton banners fall to the ground and the Stark banners take their place. That night, Sansa releases Ramsay’s own hounds to eat him alive. Davos accuses Mel of murder, and Jon banishes her from The North, saying she will be hanged if she returns. Jon cedes their parents’ old chamber to Sansa, saying that she is the Lady of Winterfell. Sansa tells Jon a white raven has arrived from the Citadel, heralding the arrival of Winter. Littlefinger tells Sansa of his vision, “a picture of me on the Iron Throne and you by my side.” Jon is declared The King in the North. Littlefinger looks slimy. At Kings Landing: Jaime is rowed into the harbor at Kings Landing, and Cersei sees Myrcella’s body under a golden shroud. Tommen apologizes to his mother for not preventing her walk of shame, saying (in a nice foreshadowing of Cersei’s later actions) “I should have executed all of them. I should have pulled down the Sept onto the High Sparrow's head before I let them do that to you, as you would have for me.” Cersei plans to use FrankenMountain as her champion in her upcoming trial for incest and adultery. I think I finally have an idea of the High Sparrow’s end game: become the power behind the throne as Tywin was, since “no one is wiser than the Gods”. The High Sparrow tells Margaery his back-story and she got to see Loras, who looked terrible, telling him to “stay strong… you’re the future of our family.” His is in a Reek-like state, wanting only to “make it stop”. After being rebuffed from other Small Council meetings, Cersie and Jaime present Kevan Lannister and the Queen of Thorns with a plan: have the Tyrell army enter the city and return Queen Margaery to crown custody. Margaery meets with Tommen and tells him she was “only good at seeming good” and that “the Gods have a plan for all of us”. Per the plan, the Tyrell army marches into the city and interrupts Margaery’s Walk of Atonement (Mance is particularly ridiculous, saying “Madness has overtaken this city and grasped in its claws my children, but now we must drive it back under the rocks whence it came. Madness has had its day!”). The High Sparrow calls it off, saying that Margaery has already atoned by “bringing another into the light of the Seven”. Tommen walks out flanked by 4 Kingsguards who sport new armor, featuring a seven-pointed star. Jaime and the Queen of Thorns got outflanked. Tommen then kicks Jaime out of the Kingsguard and sends him to the River Lands to support the Freys. Cersei tells Jaime to take back Riverrun, saying “We've always been together. We'll always be together. We're the only two people in the world.” The High Sparrow makes a thinly veiled threat against the Queen of Thorns to Margaery. The two Tyrells meet, and Margaery tells her grandmother to “go home!” before slipping Olenna a note with a rose on it. Cersei and the Queen of Thorns meet, and Olenna tells her “Our two ancient houses face collapse because of you and your stupidity.” Olenna then drops one of the biggest burs in GoT history, asking “I wonder if you're the worst person I've ever met. At a certain age, it's hard to recall. But the truly vile do stand out through the years.” Olenna then asks Cersei “What'll you do, then? You have no support. Not anymore. Your brother's gone. The High Sparrow saw to that. The rest of your family have abandoned you. The people despise you. You're surrounded by enemies, thousands of them. You're going to kill them all by yourself?” and it is a nice bit of foreshadowing for the end of the season. Tommen outlaws trial-by-combat throughout the Seven Kingdoms, and Cersei queries Qyburn about an “old rumor” asking “was it just a rumor or something more?” to which Qyburn replies “More. Much more.” Loras Tyrell’s trial starts in the Sept of Baelor. When brought out, he confesses and has a 7 pointed star carved in his forehead, as the other Faith Militant do. Tommen is prevented from going to the Sept by FrankenMountain, Lancel is sent to retrieve Cersei, but is led beneath the Sept by a little bird before being stabbed. Pycell is lured to Qyburn, who apologizes to him before the little birds stab Pycell to death, saying “whatever your faults, you do not deserve to die alone in such a cold, dark place. But sometimes, before we can usher in the new, the old must be put to rest.” Lancel tries to crawl and extinguish the candles sitting in pools of wildfire (with hundreds of casks of the stuff nearby), but is too late. The Sept explodes, killing Lancel, Loras, Margaery, the High Sparrow, Mace Tyrell, Kevan Lannister and hundreds of others. When Tommen sees the smoking crater where the Sept stood and realizes that his Queen is among the casualties, he takes his crown off and walks off a high balcony. Cersei has Septa Unella strapped to a table where she is raped by FrankenMountain, before learning of the fate of her son. She orders his body burned, and the ashes buried where the Sept once stood, since Tommen “should be with his grandfather, his brother, his sister.” Jaime arrives with the Lannister army and sees the smoking ruin where the Sept once stood. He looks horrified. Later, with Jaime looking on, Qyburn declares her “Cersei of the House Lannister First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals and the First Men, Protector of the Seven Kingdoms.” In Dorne: The ruler of Dorne and his son were killed. Did anybody care? Anybody? Bueller? At the end of the season, Olenna (in mourning black) meets with Ellaria and the Sand Snakes, who offer Olenna her heart’s desire - justice and vengeance. Varys walks in and intones “Fire and blood”. In Mereen: Tyrion and Varys go for a walk, and Tyrion terrifies a beggar woman, who thinks that he is trying to buy her baby so that he can eat it. They see a Red Priest preaching and he exhorts the former slaves to take up the flame for their own salvation. Cut to: Dany’s fleet in flames. Perhaps not what the priest intended. Tyrion meets the chained dragons with a joke - “I’m here to help… don’t eat the help” and I SWEAR the dragons laugh before he frees them. Tyrion tries to negotiate with the slavers of Yunkai, Astapor and Volantis, attempting to get them to cut off their support for the Sons of the Harpy. Kinvara, the High Priestess of the Lord of Light, meets with Tyrion and Varys and promises to spread word about Dany being the “one who was promised. From the fire she was reborn to remake the world.” She promises to spread the word that Dany has been sent to “lead the people against the darkness in this war and in the great war still to come.” I really hope that somehow Daario and the freed slaves of Slavers Bay are in Season 8. The city is calmer, but Tyrion has little luck enlisting Missandei and Grey Worm in drinking. The slavers attack Mereen with catapult ships hurling fire bombs, but Dany shows up on Drogon, the Dothraki show up, and the other two dragons bust out of captivity to help out. “Dracarys!” Dany meets with Yara after the battle, and agrees to her offer of ships in return for independence for the Iron Islands, provided that the Ironborn stop raiding and reaving. Dany and Daario break up, and Dany names Tyrion to be her Hand of the Queen. The season ends with Dany’s fleet sailing west (FINALLY), with three dragons overhead. On the Great Grass Sea: Jorah and Dario discover that Dany has been captured by a Dothraki horde, for ‘not idly does the ring of Danaerys Stormborn fall’ (LOTR joke). Jorah gets the quote of Episode 1, saying “I’ve been all over the world. There’s no escaping men like us.” Daario is still one smitten kitten, saying “I hope I do (grow old). I want to see what the world looks like when she's done conquering it.” Dany meets the new Khal and is told she will live out her days with the other widows of dead Khals in Vaes Dothrak. The woman running the show was there when Dany ate the horse heart in S1. Dany tells the gathered Khals “you are small men. None of you are fit to lead the Dothraki. But I am. So I will.” She starts singing the Talking Heads classic Burning Down the House before emerging from the inferno unburnt. Love that she did all of this with very little outside help, and that she came up with a plan that didn’t involve dragons. Dany sends Jorah off to find a cure for his greyscale. From the back of an even bigger Drogon, Dany rallies the Dothraki to cross the sea and kill the men in their iron suits. In Braavos: A Bitch comes to beat on a blind Arya. Arya is taken in again by the Faceless Men and attains the pinnacle of Faceless Assassin Warrior Ninja training before she is given her sight back. Arya continues her FAWN training and hears the backstory for the first Faceless Men, and that Braavos was essentially founded by slaves from the mines of Valeria as a murder-for-hire city, and banking became a sideline. She gets a redemption assassination assignment - Lady Crane, an actress. Arya then watches a reenactment of S1 thru S3 onstage. She then sees a reenactment of Joffrey’s death and laughs, but is moved by a soliloquy by Lady Crane as Cersei lamenting the loss of her son. Arya poisons the rum, then knocks it from Lady Cran’s hands before it can kill. A Bitch sees this and reports to Jaqen H'ghar, who gives A Bitch permission to kill Arya. Arya retrieves Needle from its hiding place. She negotiates passage to Westeros and inexplicably does some sightseeing, only to be shanked by A Bitch. Arya seeks medical help from Lady Crane, who is killed by A Bitch while Arya flees out a window and thru the streets (her stab wounds must have healed VERY quickly!). Arya leads A Bitch to a dark place and cuts the candle, plunging the room into darkness. Arya puts the face of A Bitch in the Hall of Faces and Jaqen tells her she is now truly ready to join the Faceless Men, but Arya says that she is Arya Stark of Winterfell, and that she is going home. At the Iron Islands: Balon the Damp gets tossed off of a rope bridge by Urine, a brother we have never heard of (that I recall) and who speaks in cyphers. Balon has a burial at sea in what looks like a lobster trap. Theon-lite returns to the Iron Islands and told Yara how sorry he is, saying “you should rule… let me help you.” He takes another step away from Reekdom by supporting Yara for Queen, but the Salt Throne goes to their uncle Urine. He orders the Ironborn to build a great fleet, and that he will use it to seduce the Dragon Queen. In the South: Sam, Gilly, and Little Sam arrive at his father’s Castle of Horn Hill, where they try to pass Little Sam off as Sam’s son, and Gilly off as not-a-Wildling. The Tarley clan have an awkward dinner where Randall uncovers that Gilly is in fact a Wildling and points to the family Valerian sword Hearts Bane, saying Sam “will never wield that sword.” That night, Sam leaves with his new family and the sword, and they head to Old Town. Once there, the Receptionmaester gives them a frosty greeting, and says that women and children are not allowed in The Citadel. In the River Lands: Walder tells his sons to recapture Riverrun by forcing the Blackfish to yield by using Edmure as leverage. After establishing a proper siege and getting Edmure better living conditions, Jaime meets with the Blackfish, who throws some viscous shade of his own - “Bargaining with oathbreakers is like building on quicksand.” Brienne and Pod reunite with Jaime and Bronn. Brienne is allowed to enter Riverrun to plead Sansa’s cause, but the Blackfish refuses. Jaime then uses Edmure to get the garrison to open the gate. Brienne and Pod escape, but the Blackfish is killed (off-screen). Walder Frey gloats about his victory to Jaime, saying that they are both “kingslayers”. Jaime, disgusted, leaves. Later, a servant serves Walder a pie that contains his two sons. The servant peels off her face revealing Arya, who says “The last thing you're ever going to see is a Stark smiling down at you as you die” and then slits Walder’s throat. Somewhere (near The Vale?): In a cold opening, we see that The Hound LIVES! He is told by some sort of preacher (Ian McShane) that the gods have plans for him, but the Hound objects, asking “if the gods are real, why haven't they punished me?”, and gets the reply “they have.” Members of the Lord of Light-worshipping Brotherhood kill all the villagers and hang McShane, and The Hound stalks off with an axe. He uses it to kill a few members of the Brotherhood before meeting again with Thoros and Beric, who are about to hang three of their own Brotherhood members for killing the villagers. The Hound convinces them to let him kill two of the three. The Hound then seems to fall in with the Brotherhood after Beric tells him “good and bad, young and old, the things we're fighting will destroy them all alike. You can still help a lot more than you've harmed, Clegane. It's not too late for you.”
  17. I wanted to pull my theory from two years ago, over here before it goes POOF in the night. I just re-read it, and for me, it still stands today, perhaps even more so with what has transpired between June 2012, when I wrote this, and today. I am pulling this theory into its own easy-to-find thread in case anyone cares to track the ongoing alignments of the various key elements of A Show (and because I forgot my own defined elements the other day, duh!). A Show as A Rubik's Cube  1. Black Squares - Magic: If we look at the Magic elements as black squares, then we're starting to line those up with the spitballs that correlate with why Magic is suddenly coming back - the whole 'magic begets magic, and magic lost/not believed in/not practiced is magic lost' theory.  2. Green Squares - Environmental Climate Changes: If we look at the environmental/climate change elements as green squares, then they're starting to line up with our spitballs that perhaps a natural climate change is bringing a rare but inevitable ice age type situation. This would make sense that in perhaps several lifetimes the population would not have seen such a thing, and only know about it from handed down story telling since climate change and ice ages took hundreds if not thousands of years to occur in our actual history. This also would tie in with the red comet seen streaking across the skies at the beginning of S2. Something akin to Haley's Comet would only be seen extremely rarely and not for eons in between, so again, it harkens to extreme climate change/ice age approaching. So as we saw Nan telling the scary story about WWs riding on giant white spiders, it could have been reality such a long time ago, that it's become a story that people have not actually experienced for a thousand years or more simply because all the elements were not in the right places for WWs to be able to connect with the rest of the North and grow their armies as large as they appear to be doing time around. Perhaps other previous long Winters were not as harsh or all these elements were not in place so the WWs weren't able to march South as they had a thousand years earlier. 3. Red Squares - Human Nature: If we take human nature and assign it to red squares, we could theorize that this element was man's innate desire to conquer and thus to do battle against each other, becoming preoccupied with destroying that which he wants but cannot have, etc. This is the battle for the Iron Throne right now, as well as other battles we're seeing such as Balon's desire for vengeance, Ducksauce wanting more power, the Spice Merchant not wanting to give up more power, etc. And in this element of A Show, we see how man can become consumed with war, to the point that he is oblivious to Nature and what is going in right under his nose with regard to climate change/ice age coming down the road (not noticing the comet or what it means, etc.). The Northerners are far more connected to Nature via their religion and the fact that they live so far North, so their mythology and history is more directly tied to Winter when it does come, didn't someone up North take notice of that comet or am I misremembering? Those living in KL and maybe the Free Cities, etc. might not take the "stories" of Winter Is Coming that seriously since they are farther from the actual Ground Zero area of the North. To them, perhaps none of their kin for several generations have ever experienced these things so it's all been chalked up to silly stories those Northerners like to tell. 4. Blue Squares - Religion: If we take religion and assign it to blue squares, we see many different religions being bandied about this season, but we're not sure if several of them are actually one and the same, just given different names by different cultures (sort of like all the types of Christianity that exist in the world) so it's still not clear how they are or are not lining up. Again, we know that the Northerners are more intrinsically tied to Nature, not only because they live in a very wild environment as compared to the cities of Westeros and beyond...but they also worship amongst trees that are sacred to them. So their religion is the most deeply tied to Nature of all the religions we've seen so far, so perhaps this allows, helps them to weather Winter when it finally comes? Are there other main elements of A Show that I'm missing? I know personal relationships are a big issue in A Story, but I'm not sure if it's an element per se, or a common, cross-cutting thread woven in and out of the main elements above. This is just my theory du jour, a rather huge spitball that I've been choking on, so I'll let it THWACK! on the Wall here and see if it sticks or slides slowly to the ground. So to sum up, each of the above major elements is showing us several smaller pieces that I'm thinking of as individual squares on a Rubik's Cube. And as we line up each batch of elements, we start getting a clearer idea of what A Story is all about and where it might be going. There are still outstanding pieces in each element but I think it could be a good guide for helping us Unspoiled Spitballers to see where this is all headed...or not! 12 April 2014, 04:42 AM Completely Unspoiled Speculation Thread in The Unsullied Habitat written by Pallas Your brilliant A Show as A Cube speculation, gingerella, is a work of art. It has the pull of great art; it seems to enter us from everywhere all at once, and tells us what we didn't know we knew. It's compelling and propulsive. It works like the opening credits, in that respect: Look at this; this is it. That spec of yours encapsulated everything our thread had been working out about what A Show has on its mind, and has informed my experience of it ever since. Thinking about A Show as Cube: all Rubik's Cubes share the same perfect pattern, yes? You can start the solution from different angles but the finished cube is identical? The saga had one creator, one founding genius who then tossed his invention to the adapters saying, "Here ya go. Knock yourselves out, boys." And because the saga is a remarkably wrought Rubik's Cube of independent yet interlocking dynamics, it holds together. The adapters can work on it this way or that, focus in for a time on this face or another, but the thing itself has an inevitability made of integrity. In our weird way -- as we graze and ruminate in our habitat -- we're the proof of that. "People will surprise you," has to be one of Martin's subthemes. And not just the traditional redemption postulates like Jaime, those who snark but ache and yearn. People like Melisandre, who proved to me, anyway, that she really does see something in the fire when she reversed her self like that about the War, and seemingly alone of everyone with any authority in the Seven Kingdoms, took Aemon's warning seriously. Took it seriously enough to contradict Stannis flatly, without any fluffing, and insist that he spare Daavos and head north. Her reason for doing it may still be on the Red side of the Cube, rather than the Green -- this is the real route to Stannis's ascention, rather than, this is only route to the world's survival -- but still. And people like Jon Snow, rising in the ranks of Team Green. Jon seems to be working his way up to a "Fight together or die alone" moment as he stands between the Wildlings and the Watch. And in Jon's case, he is influenced not by his allegiance to a god or prophecy, but by what he has seen and suffered since he left Winterfell. The Lannisters? No surprise there: Team Red all the way, and it will be their downfall. Having defeated all comers -- for the most part, through the wet work of others --- their blood is still up and they now have no one left to turn on but themselves. Well, Jaime is now the free lance, the one who secretly always wanted to play for Blue. All he wants is someone who wants his service. Unlike Tyrion, the political animal. If Cersei had been Shae -- Cersei, the Funny Queen! -- and urged Jaime to quit King's Landing and go anywhere else with her, Jaime would have done it in a heartbeat. This doesn't make him better than Tyrion; Jaime has far more options elsewhere, and far fewer options in the capital. But it is what marked him for the redemption train in my mind, early on, and for a noble death somewhere further down the line.
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  20. This Forum is for Unsullied Members to post in: those who have vowed to not only not read the books, but also to not watch previews, read information on the Viewer's Guide, or seek any information outside of what has been IN THE EPISODES ONLY. For the purposes of The Habitat there are 4 categories of visitor: Unsullied = Only watch the show from HBO static to closing credits. Nothing else, nada, zilch, zip. = Welcome to post in here. Unspoiled = Haven't read the books. Watch the show plus ‘next time on’ previews and/or interviews/reviews and/or own GoT DVD boxsets and/or access HBO GoT content. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Partially-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read some of the books but none beyond where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Fully-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read either all of the books or past where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the Book Talk thread caters to you. Unless you fall into the Unsullied category above you should be in READ-ONLY mode in this thread (and sub-forum). That also means NO LIKING POSTS. Thank you for your cooperation. Episode Synopsis: TBC.
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    Who Died In Season 7

    I think this is everyone. Please let me know if I left someone out. Lady Olenna Tyrell, the Queen of Shade (This one hurt - pour one out y'all. Her snark will be missed.) Walder Frey (HA!) Every Frey who means a damn thing (Why Arya so angry? “Tell them; ‘Winter came for House Frey’”) Yellow/Orange Dragon (It rained on my face there for a bit) Lord Petyr Baelish (HA! HA! Grovel, worm!) Ellaria Sand (I thought the whole Dorne Experience was boring AF, but the last scene with Ellaria was brilliantly acted) Sand Snakes (meh) Thoros of Myr (Only the second character to die in his sleep, the first being Maester Aemon. Of course, Thoros died after being attacked by a zombie polar bear.) Zombie Polar Bear (Freaking terrifying!) Benjen Stark (Too rushed) Randall Tarley (meh) Dickon Tarley (No more name jokes) Virtually all the remaining Free Folk (I just realized this when writing this list. They are all gone. Maybe Thormund and some women and children lived. Ouch.) Yara’s Ironborn (meh) The Ironborn Theon Killed (meh - that was stupid. Why was he still skulking around weeks after saying he was going to rescue Yara?) Lannister Army (Great action scene IMO!) Tyrell Army (off-screen) Zomboni-In-A-Box ("Cersei, turn the crank on the side!") One White Walker and a bunch of zombonis (We learned that if the one who turned them dies, they all die. Interesting...) The Wall (It was inevitable. I'm glad it wasn't Bran's fault; that kid is messed up enough as it is.)
  22. This Forum is for Unsullied Members to post in: those who have vowed to not only not read the books, but also to not watch previews, read information on the Viewer's Guide, or seek any information outside of what has been IN THE EPISODES ONLY. For the purposes of The Habitat there are 4 categories of visitor: Unsullied = Only watch the show from HBO static to closing credits. Nothing else, nada, zilch, zip. = Welcome to post in here. Unspoiled = Haven't read the books. Watch the show plus ‘next time on’ previews and/or interviews/reviews and/or own GoT DVD boxsets and/or access HBO GoT content. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Partially-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read some of the books but none beyond where the show has broadcast. Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Fully-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read either all of the books or past where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the Book Talk thread caters to you. Unless you fall into the Unsullied category above you should be in READ-ONLY mode in this thread (and sub-forum). That also means NO LIKING POSTS. Thank you for your cooperation. Episode Synopsis: Jon's mission continues north of the wall, but the odds against his ragged band of misfits may be greater than he imagined.
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    S07.E05: Eastwatch

    This Forum is for Unsullied Members to post in: those who have vowed to not only not read the books, but also to not watch previews, read information on the Viewer's Guide, or seek any information outside of what has been IN THE EPISODES ONLY. For the purposes of The Habitat there are 4 categories of visitor: Unsullied = Only watch the show from HBO static to closing credits. Nothing else, nada, zilch, zip. = Welcome to post in here. Unspoiled = Haven't read the books. Watch the show plus ‘next time on’ previews and/or interviews/reviews and/or own GoT DVD boxsets and/or access HBO GoT content. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Partially-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read some of the books but none beyond where the show has broadcast. Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Fully-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read either all of the books or past where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the Book Talk thread caters to you. Unless you fall into the Unsullied category above you should be in READ-ONLY mode in this thread (and sub-forum). That also means NO LIKING POSTS. Thank you for your cooperation. Episode Synopsis: Daenerys demands loyalty from the surviving Lannister soldiers; Jon heeds Bran's warning about White Walkers on the move; Cersei vows to vanquish anyone or anything that stands in her way.
  24. I hope this is a pretty inclusive list of the characters we didn't see at all last season. Please send me adds if I missed any. Note that this is not a list of characters whose fate is uncertain at the close of last season, but just the characters we haven't seen in a season (or more). Rickon (with Shaggy Dog and Osha) Who? Brother to Bran, Arya, and Sansa. Likes walnuts. Last Seen: Heading to Last Heath and John Umber. Gendry Who? Robert Baratheon's bastard son, a blacksmith. Last Seen: Rowing frantically away from Dragonstone after being sprung from prison (and probable human sacrifice at the hands of Melissandre) by Ser Davos. Jaqen H'Ghar (had to look this sp. up) Who? Assasination Genie who helped Arya & Co. escape Harrenhall. Last Seen: Handing Arya a coin and changing his face. Berrick Dondarion (with Thoros of Mir and the rest of the Brothers w/o Banners) Who? Leader of Bw/oB who has been resurrected multiple times by the Lord of Light acting thru Thoros. Last Seen: Selling Gendry to Melissandre and hunting for Arya after she ran from their cave and into the arms (paws?) of The Hound. The Blackfish Tully Who? Cat Stark's uncle, awsome funerary archer. Last Seen: Heading off to have the Piss of Wonderful Timing just before the Red Wedding broke our hearts. Mycella Baratheon (nee Lannister) Who? Her parents are actually Cersei and Jaimie, but her father is supposed to be Robert. Last Seen: Sailing for an arranged marriage in Dorne on the order of Tyrion. Walder Frey Who? Lord of The Twins, asshat who arranged the RW. Last Seen: Cackling with Roose Bolton about the stupidity of Robb Stark while blood from the RW was being washed off the floor. Balon Greyjoy Who? "King" of the Iron Islands, ursurper. Last Seen: Looking dour and damp while Yara told him she was going on a rescue mission to find and return Theon. Edmure Tully Who? Cat's brother, Lord of Riverrun. Last Seen: Being taken to the bedding ceremony on his wedding night just before the RW. Nymeria Who? Arya's direwolf. Last Seen: Being sent away by Arya to prevent her from being killed. Lancel Lannister A lover of Cersei, and her cousin; blackmailed into feeding info to Tyrion at one point. Last Seen: I think he was at Tyrion's trial and in a few wedding scenes last season, but I don't recall him uttering a line. Kevan Lannister, brother to Tywin Lannister Last Seen: At a Lannister war council at Harrenhal. (I think?) Warlock of Qarth Who? Blue drank drinker who tried to imprison the Mother of Dragons. Last Seen: Trying to assassinate Dany on the docks of Astapor, smiling a blue smile. Chief Pyromancer (who showed Tyrion all the wildfire) Last Seen: Looking rather too excited as the wildfire blew a bunch of Stannis' ships to bits at the start of the Battle of the Blackwater. Illyrio (the Wedding Planner) Who? Chief Magistrate of Pentos - Dany and Viserys' benefactor before she married Khal Drogo. Last Seen: Conspiring with Varys about Important and Cryptic Things beneath the Red Keep. Knifey! Who? The Most Distinctive Dagger in Westeros. Last Seen: Lying on the desk of Eddard Stark, trying to look innocent. And finally -- Benjen Stark (brother to Ned and member of the Nights Watch) Last Seen: Heading north of the Wall to get his Ranger on. He is, sadly, on the verge of joining the pantheon of Presumed Off-screen Death, joining other PODs such as Old Nan, the crew of Theon's ship the Sea Lice, and Syrio Forell (First Sword to the Sea Lord of Braavos and Arya's 'Dancing Master').
  25. SilverStormm

    S07.E04: The Spoils of War

    This Forum is for Unsullied Members to post in: those who have vowed to not only not read the books, but also to not watch previews, read information on the Viewer's Guide, or seek any information outside of what has been IN THE EPISODES ONLY. For the purposes of The Habitat there are 4 categories of visitor: Unsullied = Only watch the show from HBO static to closing credits. Nothing else, nada, zilch, zip. = Welcome to post in here. Unspoiled = Haven't read the books. Watch the show plus ‘next time on’ previews and/or interviews/reviews and/or own GoT DVD boxsets and/or access HBO GoT content. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Partially-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read some of the books but none beyond where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the No Book Talk thread caters to you. Fully-spoiled Bookwalker = Have read either all of the books or past where the show has broadcast. = Please post in the main GoT forum, where the Book Talk thread caters to you. Unless you fall into the Unsullied category above you should be in READ-ONLY mode in this thread (and sub-forum). That also means NO LIKING POSTS. Thank you for your cooperation. Episode Synopsis: Daenerys fights back. Jaime faces an unexpected situation. Arya comes home.
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