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And when he did die, I recall a scene where she went to the pier and mourned him with Spinelli.
But yeah, after that, and the 2 years before Jake Doe arrived she never really mentioned him as far as I know.
Well, I know less about TFGH in the last several years than most here, but one of the times I briefly tried to get back into it for a week or two was when they brought AJ back to life, and it seems to me I remember a lot of Liason poignancy (I mean, it was intended to be poignant) when she was first interacting with AJ. There were photographs, there were sad looks, there were heart-to-hearts where his name was dropped a lot. Liz, Sam, and Carly were all mooning over him in that period.
I thought the writing was a little better then than it is now, but if anything, it was a bit overdone. But maybe that was my residual bitterness toward the character. I remember posting on TWoP that from the way everyone was acting, I expected Jason to rise up out of the water like a Christ figure while all three women were on the docks. The show would end on a freeze-frame of Carly resting her head on his shoulder, Liz ministering to his wounds, and Sam drying his feet with her hair.
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I always thought I would appreciate any other direction for Jason besides what Steve Burton was phoning in for years, but the version they are writing and BM is acting now is just as boring in a different way. No depth, no edge.
Sam is equal parts mercenary and low self-esteem. She acts as though she has to keep Patrick around as her fallback because the alternative of being alone is too horrible to contemplate. But if she were being honest with him, he doesn't stack up at all.
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Does anyone remember this? Long ago, Spring 2001. When the Tamara Braun Carly first appeared, Sonny threw her out for going behind his back to Roy and trying to arrange a "deal" to get him out of the mob. There were weeks of painful scenes of the TB Carly prostrating herself trying to get Sonny back. Following him around everywhere. Crying. Begging. Pleading. Wearing her wedding dress. Sonny was giving her nothing back, no reason to hope, but she kept on. All of that is typical, but the weird scene that I want to make sure I didn't dream -- I remember one in which Carly stalked Sonny to the expensive restaurant that GH used for all the "expensive restaurant" scenes in those days (is it still the same one?), and Sonny was laughing it up and having a great time at dinner with a bunch of day players we never saw again. They weren't mob types, either, they were civilian-looking upscale people, a mix of male and female, and I think they were all younger than Maurice.
Nothing more happened in the scene than Carly trying again to get attention, and Sonny being cold to her again. But the weirdness of those "Sonny friends" made it stand out to me. Number one, they were nobody we ever saw before or since; number two...Sonny had friends? I mean, other than Jason (who wasn't on at that time) and the bodyguards he paid?
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Hayden lives and lives on Nicks dimeAt Nik's near insistence, so he reaps what he sows there.
Hayden sounds like Gia. She was a world-class freeloader too, and Nik was strangely okay with it. (The first, really shallow and materialistic Gia, I mean. Not the recast who got mature and independent overnight.) Did they stumble into character history?
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In my opinion, what someone looks like is a big part of how that person carries himself and projects. If there were another recast Lucky, I would support the idea of "thinking out of the box" and getting someone more in JJ's physical mold and also a good actor. With CARL and NEIL, they didn't do that. They got soap studs you'd cast for any old role. They were nice enough to look at, but it was just weird and wrong, even though the writing tried to cover it with him having been brainwashed by the world's largest cubic zirconia and all.
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Robin need never have come back to this show after her very brief 2000 (?) return. Great character in the '90s, but I haven't cared about anything they've done with her since. Scrubs is a snooze.
The Jennifer Bransford Carly was the one I enjoyed most. The humor involving her on message boards was good fun (I hope the actress never read it, though), and she was the Carly who was "vulnerable." Sarah Brown's was vulnerable too, but more obnoxious. Tamara Braun's version was just about the nastiest piece of work I've ever seen on this show, and Laura Wright's is a banshee.
I never hate Liz. I've taken her side against all of her female enemies that I've seen: Katherine, Carly, Gia, Courtney, Sam, Maxie, and whatsherface from Ireland who always wore the beret. Didn't really see her storyline with Britt, although I know who the character is.
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It's so weird to watch this show after a long time away. They show Crimson and this nutty woman bopping around and getting a makeover from Maxie, and I'm totally lost. Recast Kate Howard? Rapid-aged version of one of Alexis's daughters? But no, she's "Nina." Okay. Was she supposed to be drunk or was that just the actress's usual way of speaking?
Some things are constant, though. I still loathe Carly and Sam and their entitlement. Shut up, Carly. I remember you reaming out the Quartermaines for trying to force Jason to remember everything from his past instead of accepting the version that existed at that time, the most wonderful, understanding assassin ever. All she cares about is where she came in and what benefits her the most. I guess Laura Wright does a good job with it, but I couldn't stand this character as far back as 2000.
And just as bringonthedrama said, what was up with Sam acting like Laura owed her anything? Even though she's right that Laura is keeping a secret of Liz's, why wouldn't she? She and Liz go way back, years before someone at the network decided that Kelly Monaco had to happen on General Hospital at all costs, and we'd get different personalities and forced romances until something worked or the viewers just cried uncle. Does Sam now think even straight women find her irresistible?
I liked almost everyone's clothes, especially what Liz was wearing at home at the end, and Laura's coat.
New guy isn't working for me as Jason. He might be good as some character, but as this one he's...flat.
I don't even want to read recaps to try to put together whatever is going on with Roger Howarth now being the James Franco sweeps-stunt villain who was always listening to that Adam Lambert song.
Mainly, I just felt there was a lot of dead weight walking around. People I knew seemed checked out. I was shocked to see that Patrick was even still around. Tyler Christopher clearly had a memory lapse when he had to say the name of the guy Sam is with now (Patrick) and they just let it go. He was acting Nikolas like he's bored of it all, rather than like whatever Alexis was worried about was happening to Nikolas. NLG had to carry those scenes. She and Rebecca Herbst were my favorites to watch today, and Genie.
I don't know if I will try to watch more. I almost shut it off when I saw Elizabeth Korte's name as writer. Cockroach.
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Is there something known about Scott B. not liking Clark or not wanting him to win? I FF through a lot, but I saw two posts implying that he wouldn't be happy about Clark advancing.
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Ryan also called the blind guy "Scotty the Body." Wasn't he on with the Davids? Or was that Adam and Kris's season? Anyway, Ryan needs some material!
Hometown visits really made it clear how far this show has fallen. Clark had some people there, but nothing like you'd expect for a front-running guy from the south. Ten years ago it would have been pandemonium. The days of Bo Brice are long ago.
Nick was my favorite. I could see him winning.
I don't know if I'd go, but I think the top five this season would be a decent tour. They are pretty diverse. At least it isn't four of five being WGWGs or gospel divas.
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Is it an acronym, or -- how does "tocks" relate/translate? Term Of Conception Killed Soon?
No, it's like a clock mechanism. Usually on a soap, several women characters get pregnant every year, and if a baby gets born, that's the "tick," and so fans who know the genre predict the next woman will have a car accident, fall down the stairs, or something and it will be the "tock." It's a reference that it's "like clockwork."
Usage: "I really want Pete and Trudy to have their baby, but I am afraid theirs will be the tock for Baby Gene."
LOL that BestestAuntEver and I were posting at the same time and used the exact same two miscarriage scenarios. We obviously both watched in the Guza years, when no woman was capable of navigating stairs!
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I hadn't watched this show in years before I saw the last two episodes. I don't even remember what was happening on it when I stopped. I had just had enough.
I see that nurses' ball is still a mixed bag! I thought Wally Kurth would do much better with that Queen song than he did. The Spinelli actor was pretty good, though.
Rebecca Herbst never ages! She looks almost the same as she did when she was married to Ric. That surely was 10 years ago?
I hated Courtney so much, but I kind of liked seeing her ghost. Alicia Leigh Willis looked good too. The ghost was not as annoying as the living version. Did she borrow Angel Ellis's wardrobe?
I had never seen Nik's son, but I think he is a scream. What a funny little actor. I'm glad they cast a kid who can do the comedy, because the idea of a triangle with three little kids would be creepy if it were too serious.
Nik's son was wearing the same kind of mask that Stefan wore when his face got burned after the dirty cop beat him up. Did that get referenced in the story? He was hiding in Wyndemere wearing that, and he kidnapped Lydia?
I liked the new Jason, but he is not Jason. He is not any of the versions of Jason. But I like him more, so I am not complaining.
Those are my only thoughts. Be nice, because I have no idea who half of these people are! I feel like I didn't get the worst of Carly. She was a reason I stopped watching. She wasn't so bad in these two days, though. I like her with the new Jason too.
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It's amazing how this show has faded on me. Thursday was all about ER at my house in the late nineties and (VERY) early aughts. I cannot even remember when I stopped watching. I watched that credits sequence from the finale that WendyCR72 posted above, and I recognized some of those characters but had no idea Angela Bassett had ever been on this show even as a guest star. So that was way after my time.
I do remember Parminder Nagra, whose character was so annoying. Didn't she quit to go work at the Qwik-E-Mart and had to dress like the Statue of Liberty? I remember Shane West losing his legs. I remember a character who was a former beauty queen having trouble being taken seriously as a pediatrician, and she had a relationship with Benton. But after about the first six seasons, when I try to recall specific stories, I just remember OTT ridiculous ones like the angry stroke patient taking Luka hostage and breaking his hand, Mark/Elizabeth's baby OD'ing on Ecstasy, and those criminals abducting Abby from the ER and giving Luka something that paralyzed him.
A lot of the new actors they tried to make happen never really fit in, after the first five seasons. Maura Tierney and Linda Cardellini were great, though. They could have been part of the original cast.
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Top five? That seems like such a small tour for such a big show. I've been saying it since the beginning of the season - this show is done.
I was saying that in the Candice/Kree year (first time I just KNEW that no matter who won, I'd never hear them again unless it was an Idol alum visit), but has anything gone right since 2010? Simon leaving, Ellen, Iovine, Tyler, Nicki and Mariah, Prosciutto or whatever his name is, lighted chairs, judges' save, Twitter save, smaller tour...this show is a last-decade phenomenon, for sure.
Quentin is still going tonight. He told People magazine that he knows he can leave anytime, and Harry Connick Jr. can leave too if he doesn't like it. I repeat: WOW!
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Quentin: WOW. I thought until now that he was this happy, positive person, but the mask was dropped. I don't think he could win in a sing-off now against anyone left. Even if he comes in next to last for this week, he's done. That was the most uncomfortable thing I have seen on television since the "Chicago sunroof" monologue on Better Call Saul.
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The Doorway was on and I had forgotten how almost immediately we get a shot of Megan's glistening torso. Not even her face, just her body and her voice. It felt like MW saying, "I know you've had a long wait, so I'm going to give you a treat." Just me?
However, I loved how her soap story had her playing a maid, and Don was watching a scene where the married guy is trying to seduce the maid character and she's saying, "But she's always been nice to me!" about his wife. It mirrored his story with Sylvia. Where were they having their trysts? The maid's room. Then he goes and picks a fight with Megan and basically calls her a prostitute because she kisses guys in character.
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Do any of this year's finalists identify as GLBT? If there are none, it kind of surprises me that the show would step back that way. Last year was so emotional with Emkay and the "If I Were A Boy" guy. Plus, in the past, Clay, Adam, and others.
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When they showed that very fine looking young bearded guy who was dressed like a Western "dude" clapping in the audience, kerchief around his neck, hat on his head, I was going to come here and ask if he was the star of some Fox show I don't watch. It was like we should have known who he was. Then they revealed it was Joey's guy. Go, Joey. Totally thought he was an actor.
Clark is just great. Someone above mentioned Sam Smith? If "they" are smart, that's the "lane" (tm Jennifer) they will put him in if he is the winner. Sam Smith type heart and soul, but more eye candy. I think he could be a Scotty/P2 success, more than Kris/Lee/Candice/Caleb.
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Clark's performance was so beautiful. Best of the night easily. He and Nick are headed for a showdown, which would suit me just fine.
I wondered if JAX sounded different in the theater. I was not hearing at all what they were talking about with the band overpowering her in the middle. Maybe the sound mix made her come through better on television? She was one of the better ones too.
They went easy on poor little Daniel. He came in at the wrong time and cracked a note, and it seemed like he just learned that song a few days ago.
Quentin's song about the air was BORING. It goes nowhere. I don't know if the original artist does more with it.
Boy George Michael looked healthier than when he performed on the show a few seasons ago, but his voice sounded shot when he sang Karma Chameleon. Surprised they said he was touring. BGM's advice to the kids was good, though. I really respected Clark for sticking with his guns on the key.
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Thank you both! Looks like Nicole has had a good long run. And Taylor was brought back many years later and was played at different times by Natalia Livingston and Tamara Braun of GH? That is such a trip. The girl who played her when I was watching it was this mousy brunette who looked about 4 foot 5.
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I remembered a strange story on this show, many years ago, when I used to post about it. This posting was on AOL, which should tell you all you need to know about the period.
There was a blond girl who was a new character on the show they seemed to be trying to "make happen." Late teens/early 20s. She was in love with a boy. They would go out on dates, and at the end of the night, she would say goodbye to him in front of this ritzy building that made her look rich. Then she would go to this dump apartment where she really lived. We would see her alone talking to herself. "OMG! He can't find out I really live in this dump!" Her landlord in the dump was a supporting character. He was always coming to the door and telling her her rent was late, and she was a bitch about it.
Then I think she had a sister who came to town (who looked nothing like her, and was kind of plain for a soap), and she was trying to keep the sister away from the guy too, so the sister wouldn't spill the beans that she didn't really live in the nice building.
It was a strange story! They seemed to want us to like the girl and worry that her secret would be discovered, but they were making her look shallow. I remember someone posting "Why are they making where she lives such a huge part of her story?" Also, it was hard to be sympathetic, because she was obviously spending all of her money on clothes and makeup when her rent was overdue. Some people thought the mean landlord was the character to root for.
There may have been modeling in there too, because I'm picturing the boyfriend taking photographs of the secretly poor girl and making over-the-top "Wow, she is so amazing on camera" faces.
Can anyone help? I stopped watching around that time.
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I always thought it was weird how Walt's sex drive just vanished in the last three seasons...right about the time he was told his cancer was in remission. He could not get enough in the first two seasons. That scene of him trying to enter Skyler from behind while she had the mud mask on her face and was screaming for him to stop was terrible. But with all the beautiful, sexy women he came into contact with, he never showed any interest in them.
Was being a faithful husband one of his only good points?
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"The Wheel," "Meditations," "Shut The Door," "Tomorrowland," "The Phantom," "In Care Of," and we will count "Waterloo"...in my opinion, "The Phantom" is the worst season finale followed by "Tomorrowland." But definitely "The Phantom." All of the other finales really made a statement, and that one was just kind of there.
But I have a question about it. Does anyone know what the two dogs humping at the end was supposed to symbolize? Was it supposed to mean the old Don was back, and he would be doing it like an animal the next time we saw him? Because it was followed right after by the woman at the bar asking him if he was alone, and then in the next season, he was diddling the neighbor. I know it sounds like I am joking, but I mean it, I have been trying to figure out why that was there ever since it was on.
GH History Lessons: Because History is Always Repeating Itself
in General Hospital
· Edited by Asp Burger
There were so many new characters in the '00s who were brought on and established as very important to core characters, and then killed off. Then you look back and it's so dumb, what was the point? True, things don't work out as planned. But I think if you're going to go into deep retcon, you have to commit. Don't say "Alexis has a never-before-mentioned sister," "Carly's dead best friend we've been hearing about for ten years IS ALIVE" or "This guy is Carly's father" and waste it on someone who's going to be gone and never mentioned again in a year.
Nikolas is an example of a character who was worth the bother. Love him or hate him (or the way they brought him on), he stuck. Big stories through, what, three actors now? But they've done things like the Nikolas reveal too many times since then. One of the reasons I stopped watching is that I could not even keep track of all of these comings and goings that were made to seem such a big deal when they were announced. Guza, especially, was very cynical about...well, everything, but especially those close relationships.
Most embarrassing GH ad ever is still the one of the housewife fantasizing about Jason. "I'm in my kitchen. He's on my television. But there is a place in my heart [etc]. See you tomorrow, Jason." For the zombie assassin! The romantic quality, with the reference to walking on the beach arm in arm, made it seem like something originally conceived for Jax and then given to someone's pet.