[S08.E03: Bad Guys]

14 minutes ago, ezzy4 said:

I know this is been discussed a lot, but I just need to add my .02.

Dorit and PK are NOT the type of people who should host any guests in their home.  They are simply awful.

I'm a good hostess.  I don't mean to brag.  It's not a difficult skill set.  I don't have any social anxieties.  A lot of people do.  I think that why I'm good at being a hostess.  Plus I know a few basic guidelines that make hosting an easy thing to do.  

The most important thing is that it's your job to put your guests' comfort and desires above your own.  You need to be clear to them about what to expect when they come to your house.  For example, you don't tell someone you are hosting a "casual" meal, and then run out and purchase $1000.00 place settings.  That can cause your guests discomfort leaving them wondering, "did I misunderstand what the invite meant?", "am I dressed appropriately?" 

Also when a guest shows up with a hostess gift you accept with gratitude and appreciation.  It is not necessary for you to serve a wine someone brings, but it's certainly appropriate to do so if you choose.  You do NOT, however, moan about not having the "right" glasses available, because clearly that would make your guest uncomfortable too.  Casually grab more appropriate glasses . . . or . . . Dear Lord just use what glasses you have out.  Don't make some weird production about it.  (Didn't Dorit end up serving something she already had afterall, and STILL complain about the glasses - wth)

Hosting a meal is NOT a stage for you to seek applause for your cooking skills.  A good hostess could serve frozen pizzas and have a successful party because it's not about the cooking, it's about breaking bread together and enjoying others company.  That being said, a good hostess likely wouldn't be inclined to serve frozen pizza, because people who host dinners usually love to cook (I do).  But no matter how complicated your menu and how much effort you put in or skills you have, it's the hostess'  job to make it look effortless.  Of course, polite people will compliment your cooking no matter how good or bad the food actually is.  A hostess should be gracious but deferring.  And they do not need their spouse expounding on their talent.  That's tacky.

Obviously you should make every attempt to make whatever you are serving look appetizing and easily served.  I just for the LIFE of me cannot understand Dorit choice of menu or plating.  How in the world is someone suppose to chase that soupy mixture around a dinner plate?  It was weird.

And the only other really important thing that a hostess needs to do is to set a light and lively tone for the party.   But you ONLY set the tone, you do your best to allow your guests to determine the topics.  Otherwise you run the risk of doing exactly what Dorit and PK did; airing your own concerns and thoughts to a captive audience who is awkwardly stuck listening to you lecture them.  Also, snarky comments happen all the time.  They are usually fun and add spice to conversations.  The hostess should, however, be pretty vigilant in curtailing her snark . . . and in stopping others (by redirection) before things go too far.  A good hostess would never let a situation escalate to mean spirit gossip.  Frankly no one wants to be invited to a home where the hostess is known to badmouth others.  It's just uncomfortable.  You'll always have to weigh an invitation to their home, wondering what she has said about you to others.   All the best snarky stuff really should stay as a naughty aside between the guests themselves.  It's more fun that way.

Of course, everyday normal table manners should apply.  That shouldn't have to be said.  PK is a pig.  Shoveling slop into his face from a $1,000 plate before his wife is even seating . . . just ug.  Nothing uncomfortable or awkward about that - lol.

Again, Dorit and PK are just the WORST.

All this dinner should have been was a casual affair with a simple setting (as Dorit had originally indicated), with more appetizing food, served by someone who wasn't seeking all kinds of applause.  Dorit could have raised her RED wine glass (gasp) with Rose Champagne in it and toasted "to breaking bread with new friends".  And once all were served and seated, she could have directed the dinner conversation by saying, "Now that you've had the time to get to know Lisa a little bit better, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts" or some such thing.

This!

One thing Dorit could have done is she could have finely chopped up some fresh parsley and sprinked it over the dish just before serving to give some color. And I couldn't agree more the Rose Champagne.

There's a part of me that wants to like Dorit, and I go back and forth, but then the way she brought up Rinna (who I don't like) was nasty and messy, and says much more about the kind of people Dorit and PK are than anything else.

[S08.E03: Bad Guys]

2 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Once upon a time before Rinna got on the show Kyle and some other celebs use to get together for lunch-no longer.  Harry, Mauricio, Kyle and Rinna use to socialize.  Now it seems it is socializing just for the show.  After Season 5, Kathy Hilton went in very hard after RInna on twitter for the tweets she and Harry were making about Kim.  I believe there came a point where Kyle just tolerates and enjoys Rinna when she is not going after someone she cares about.  Last year's Reunion Kyle was very uncomfortable with some of Rinna's outbursts.  Adding to the fact Harry saying Kim should be cut from the herd?

 

I watched the video.  My comment was in response to Kim asking Rinna to stop talking about her.  Kim certainly conveyed her feelings in a unacceptable angry manner.  Kim made others fell uncomfortable-even Babyface.   As the years passed Rinna overstepped with her treatment of Kim and forever changed the relationship between she and Kyle.   As I said previously Kim's behavior tread into "unforgivable" territory.  never to be outdone, Rinna then sent Kim threatening texts because she was home alone?  Kim has consistently been an embarrassment to herself and essentially attacked everyone.

As for Kyle, I wonder if it has more to do with her being busy with her stores and developing/producing her new tv show? She seems like the kind of person who is the glue to tying a lot of friendships together and when that person gets preoccupied then there's less cohesiveness within a group.

[Kyle Richards: Pantene Poster Girl]

48 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Kyle's youngest. largest dog at least found the furniture "tasty" if not tasteful.  Apparently she was a couch snacker.

Hopefully the 5 week doggy retreat had a positive impact on her and she's no longer a "couch snacker", lol. I adore all of Kyle's bevy of pups, they're quite good looking too!

[Kyle Richards: Pantene Poster Girl]

On 10/26/2017 at 9:31 PM, gundysgirl said:

Looks like Kyle and Mauricio are moving on up...

http://observer.com/2017/10/real-housewives-kyle-richards-buys-encino-house-photos/

If I were Kyle I'd purchase a lot of the furniture that the home is staged with and not let the tackiness that is Faye Resnick anywhere near the home's aesthetic.

[S12.E04: We Have A New Puppet Master]

What is wrong with Tamra and why does she insist on blabbing her family business on the boob tube? Is she stoopid or just greedy? This, Tamra, is why your daughter won't  f-ing talk to you. She called you a narcissist because you make everything about yourself at the expense of mending a relationship with your kid. She doesn't want to be talked about. She doesn't want her dad to be talked about. She does not want you to profit off of her. You are making Sydney your storyline. I would cut all communication off if I were her after watching this episode. The thing Ryan said Simon had context, and I thought came from an honest place. Tamra's response was good UNTIL she called Simon a prick. He may be a prick, Tamra, but he is the father of 3 of your children, and for their sake she should have zipped it. I'm glad she's getting along better with Simon, although she may have undone some goodwill after he watches this episode. I never want to see Tamra give another speech. Tonight's episode, and so far, this season, is a big fail.

[S12.E03: The Not So Quiet Woman]

I don't like the new housewife.

We get it. You're Armenian. Thanks for the millionth time.

[S12.E03: The Not So Quiet Woman]

Hello Production, we see you.

[S12.E02: It's Either My Way or the Feng Shui]

5 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Yes it was very insightful for Lydia to figure out they weren't fighting over some comment about a dress as she said.  I am still at a loss after agreeing with Shannon that what Vicki said about David was unconscionable Lydia's take away is Shannon was crazy and needed to take crazy pills.  It only got worse when Lydia went to whine to her mom and then Tamra about Shannon-someone was making it all about herself.  Meghan wrote that Lydia went too far to begin with and then went back for more with Shannon.  Of course Meghan believes Shannon should have just walked away-she did.  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-12/blogs/meghan-king-edmonds/meghan-king-edmonds-im-also 

Meghan has a lot to say about Peggy.  Meghan said it would have never crossed her mind that Peggy's cars were borrowed.

I'm assuming the reason Peggy mentioned that their cars weren't "borrowed" was to distinguish herself from the other Peggy (Tanous) whose lifestyle was not as it appeared, as was, and is, the habit of many HWs i.e; Alexis, Lynn, Teresa, Melissa, etc.

[S12.E02: It's Either My Way or the Feng Shui]

I think I know what Lydia's agenda is, other than to be a "friend" to Vicki, Bravo brought her back to stir the pot and give Vicki someone to film with besides Kelly to even out the armies. 

Lydia said she was in agreement with Tamra about Vicki being in the wrong about the the cancer scam and putting David's alleged domestic abuse on blast, so why is she lumping Shannon with what Vicki did? Even if what Vicki said was fact, and I believe there's truth to it, why wouldn't Lydia have a little sympathy for a woman she's just met who endured public speculation and marital humiliation? Why? Because Lydia's been coached by production to stir up a hornet's nest in the guise of "friend whisperer". 

By the looks of next weeks episode Shannon will need psychiatric hospitalization if things keep going at this pace. Woman, you are a mother to 3 beautiful daughters and you are going batshit crazy on people not worth your time and energy. You talk about fancy cotillions and proper etiquette for your girls yet you model Jerry Springer Show-like antics. 

Meghan is, at this point, the only one I like, and Tamra is tolerable. 

[S07.E01: Dragonstone]

Arya owned that opening scene. And it was interesting to watch her almost soften to the  kindness of strangers who had no agenda with her  Their stories and background must have reminded her when life was more innocent.

Next Sunday can't come soon enough!

[Tamra Judge: Naked Wasted]

I think Tamra looks fine with the lower face lift. Much better than when she over-botoxed and had all that filler in her face. Tamra's always had beady eyes, and her cheekbones are pronounced because she no longer has all that filler in her face. Her neck and jawline look fantastic, though. 

I do hope she doesn't trash Simon on social media or her show because no matter how she feels about Simon, it hurts her kids the most. And she also needs to stop talking about her daughter, Sydney. That is the one thing Tamra has control of-- what she speaks about, and Sydney has been clear about wanting her mother to stop speaking publicly about her and her dad. For the love God, Tamra, if you really want to fix things then stop making yourself look like the victim re; Sydney and Simon, and keep your trap shut!

[S09.E15: Oil And Vinegar]

I don't know if it's been stated here yet, as I'm still catching up on all the posts, but Ramona is giving me Kelly Bensimon vibes of losing touch with reality when interacting with Bethenny. As we saw with Kelly, Bethenny doesn't go out of her way to trigger Ramona, but something in B's dna spikes and triggers a visceral crazed reaction. Not to make excuses for Ramona, because I think she's been awful, but she is obviously on very tender hooks since the reality of her marriage being completely over has sunk in and left her weak, desperate and devastated. Her attempt to appear strong and not bothered with excessive "dating" and desparation for youth makes her cringy and bizarre. I think Ramona is close to breaking down (or heading toward early dementia) and that's not something I want to see happen again on this show. It would seem that someone close to B needs to pull her aside and tell her to get through the rest of the season with Ramona and make nice for the sake of sanity.

[S09.E09: Two Weeks Notice]

17 minutes ago, Former Nun said:

Any way that statement was made after Bravo negotiations failed?

Not a clue. Except there are no negotiations until they're offered a contract which had not happened yet.

[S09.E09: Two Weeks Notice]

Am I correct in remembering that LuAnn stated at last years reunion that she and Tom together decided that their wedding would not be filmed for the show? 

[S09.E09: Two Weeks Notice]

On 6/1/2017 at 5:23 PM, SunnyBeBe said:

I think that somewhere deep inside, Bethenny is afraid of becoming like her mother. She's always described her as horrific, but, now days, I wonder if that is accurate.  Her off the charts meltdown last night was more than just stress, imo.  Someone said that she gets particularly sensitive when her mother is mentioned.  (someone said that Jason calls her, her mother's name.)  I would interpret that as him possibly saying, Bethenny, I want Bryn and you to have a good relationship when she grows up and not like the one you had with your mom.  In Bethenny's mind she hears him calling her her mother's name.  This is my interpretation of it.  

I wonder if Andy is planning to bring Jason on the show anytime soon.  I mean....for ratings.  He may be friends with Bethenny ,but, he's businessman too. 

I don't know...things have gotten so bitter between these two that I wouldn't put it past Hoppy to call Bethenny by her mother's name. I like and dislike Bethenny, but she does show some tendencies of Bernadette, obviously not to the same degree because I think Bethenny tries very hard and deliberately to right the wrongs that were done to her and be a better mother than the one she grew up with. And she is miles ahead of Bernadette, but she has some Bernadette in her for sure. Hoppy knows it, sees it and I can see him using it as a weapon against her. They both have been huge assholes to each other.

[Season 9 First Looks]

On 6/1/2017 at 9:15 PM, zoeysmom said:

Jill is 53 years old.  Considering what she has been going through with Bobby's health, I would say the old girl is holding up pretty well.  At this point I would welcome another personality in the mix.   If Bethenny doesn't come back next season I can see Jill returning.  It would be interesting to see some fireworks between Ramona and Jill.  It was nice to see Bobby looking healthy. 

I agree. I think this is Jill's dress rehearsal for next season. As long as Jill can manage to stay out of the fray and stop micromanaging things behind the scenes in the future then I think her chances of going forward are good to go.

[S09.E09: Two Weeks Notice]

Ramona and Bethenny make Jill Zarin look good.

[S09.E07: Bidding on Love]

The cringey scene with Tinsley, Ramona and Sonja chatting up and flirting with young guys at the pick up bar was OTT embarrassing and desperate  And I loved that Avery, not so subtly, attempted to convey to Ramona that she is a try-too-hard old woman. I'm sure it's not the first time either. Listen to your daughter, Ramona! And Chad needs to drop Tinsley and go for someone more like Avery. 

[S06.E20: Let's Try To Get Along]

I take everything Maci says with a grain of salt. She lies and manipulates as much as the other teen moms. If there are concerns with Bentley having to sleep with Jen, then bring it up with Larry, Jen, Rhine, and McKenzie off camera. Way to go, embarrass your 8 year old kid on tv. The thing that pisses me off about Maci is her storyline is always about what someone else is doing wrong, she's more than happy to expose everyone but herself. If Jen is a clingy grandparent, which is probably true to some degree, then go to the source and stop pulling the passive-aggressive bullshit you are so well known for, bitch. 

[S09.E05: The Politics of Friendship]

Ramona's "date" reminds me of the actor Bill Pullman, looks and vibe-wise.

1 minute ago, biakbiak said:

They were from the cupping she and Bethenny got when they were in the Hamptons, they can last several days.

Thank you! I feel much better. I've never had cupping done, I had no idea it left such bad bruises. Must hurt like a mofo.

[S09.E05: The Politics of Friendship]

Did anyone notice the two massive bruises on Carole's back, below each shoulder,  that are shown as she greets Sonja at the surprise party?

ETA: I replayed the scene and about a minute later I see what looks like bruises on the back of her upper arm too. Maybe she bruises easily, but it kind of worried me, not that I think Adam would hurt her. 

[S07.E21: Reunion Part 3]

3 hours ago, AndySmith said:

I'd like to see a winter ski resort style trip. These ladies need to visit somewhere like Aspen or St. Moritz.

That's already been done. Season 2 

[S06.E17: Hello Again World!]

6 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

My parents saved the newspapers from the Kennedy and MLK assassinations.  Are they on my wall greeting my guests? Hell no. Surprised Matt didn't buy those too since he's got that gigantic JFK art piece going up the stairs. Do they kiss it goodnight before bed?

I have kids these ages (well, not Matt's age) and these people are just screwed in the head. Unless Maci sticks a Marilyn poster in Jayde's room - I officially declare her the winner (lowwww bar). 

And yes, something is off with Mackenzie. Ryan is in zombie land, and she's the nurse shooting him up with xanax. 

I think that's why Larry is being extra quiet thus far this season. Something is way off.

[S07.E21: Reunion Part 3]

6 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

I saw this today and thought, this is what  Rinna has been angling for the past three seasons-God speed to her just go away-  http://www.allabouttrh.com/2017/04/27/lisa-rinna-plotting-build-kardashian-esque-empire/  Personally, I don't see the attraction with her girls but hey I am not a network executive. 

One thing that strikes me as bullshit Rinna claiming her youngest being offered jobs in Paris but for her age she could not accept.  No Rinna, it is Rinna-esque bullshit of course they would tell you that because there was no danger of having to follow through.

Haven't they tried this before and it flopped? Of course, her daughters are older now and more interesting, bwahahaha, yeah riiight. Adios.

[S09.E04: The Etiquette of Friendship]

16 minutes ago, Lemons said:

I don't remember her saying anything. Has she been on before?  Is she a housewife?

I'm saying she'd make a great replacement for Bethenny. And she was on last night's episode in a couple different scenes having conversations with the hws, you should rewatch it if you can.