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[supposebly]

I just finished this in one sitting on a grey holiday. The acting was phenomenal and young Elias was heartbreaking. Being manipulated by the cult that he himself created so he could get to that point. I also really loved that it took very little to change his relationship with Polly, which made him change altogether, while he was trapped in his original scheme.

I love time travel when it's done well and I prefer loop stories, so this was wonderful. I'm not sure why only Defoe was split (or possibly Maplewood) but I don't really care all that much. 

[SeanBug]

Just found this show this week and I have been loving it. It was in the list of "British TV Shows" on Netflix and I kept scrolling and for some reason started it. 

I have lost count how many times I've said out loud "this is bonkers/insane". 

I'm on episode seven where Mannix goes back to 1889 and we see that he wasn't the real son of the crazy seance lady, and how the whole thing started.

[SeanBug]

I just finished it and I was almost in tears. The hell all these people went thru, I especially felt bad for Hillinghead and Weissman, of course. So glad when the world went back to normal, they were okay. 

I thought I had missed something when 2053 Shahara was at Sarah's flat in 2023, they didn't show her going thru the Throat to get to that time. And then when she and Elias disappeared. 

Very well done for time travel.   Another one I liked was Travelers. It was kind of crazy but ended in a good way too. 

[Which Tyler]

On 11/27/2023 at 1:25 AM, chaifan said:

1. I don't understand why teenage Elias disappeared in the end.  Old Elias/Harken had his son and the lineage was established.  Because no one knew of his second recording, recanting all the "lies" about the cult, the cult would have continued as it did in the original timeline.  So Elias would have been born and led the same life up until he listened to the recording in 2023.  That should only have changed how his life would proceed from there, not erased him. 

2. Also, if Defoe was right about being split into past and future selves, then why was he the only one who came "back" a few days into the future?  Shouldn't Elias/Harken and Maplewood also have returned a few days into the future?  Or maybe they're saving that for Season 2? 

3. Was this actually explained in show?  I will admit to averting my eyes during the bullet through the eye scene, so was it shown during that scene? 

Just watched the show, so sorry for this being a year after you asked the questions:

1. Elias can't have been born after the change, because he needs 4 great-grandfathers, not 3.

2. Left to it's own devices, they will. But they're future replications would have gone forwards by the same amount they went back - which is 160 years.
Defoe will also keep turning up again - a few days later (as seen), but also 30 years later, 112 years and 160 years into the future (as of 2053).
Of course, with the re-writing of history who knows if Defoe would even have been born, or the science have developed to allow the throat to be made in 2053.
The only way out of a time loop is a paradox. The loop was broken, so we're in a paradox.

3. Yes, Future-Defoe says as much. Because he was in the process of being shot, he lost control of where he was going. At that point, I'm not sure he'd know that he dropped out of the flow of time in multiple places.

Edited October 17 by Which Tyler

[Hanahope]

I thought Weissman took an awful risk allowing the cop bar to get shot up when he had hidden the record behind the photo.  he couldn't stop a bullet ricocheting off something and hitting the photo, going through it and the record, destroying the recording and there goes the only shot at stopping the time loop.

of course, the problem with these stories is how the loop started in the first place.

and i still can't get over how the old lady Harker decided to allow some strange man into her home to pretend to be her son (let alone society accepting him because at least some people had to have known the real Julian Harker beforehand and knew this guy wasn't him - at least until he started making money for them - mannix must have studied 1889 finance very closely to find out how to make money very fast).