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2 hours ago, Rockfish said:
With a hook like this, how could I resist watching what would obviously be a kick-ass, awesome season? I’m in!
I also like Luisa and would like to see her POV.
Both versions of this latest episode made me sad. In the first, I found Ben creepy and just wanted Alison to make a clean break, but instead she let him fix her faucet and then felt obligated to let him and his b.s. stay over. (It’s this version where he talked about tying his wife up so he didn’t have to look at her, right? And Alison still hooked up with him? That’s nuts!) In version 2, I ended up feeling like a jerk because I was victim-shaming: I kept yelling at the TV for her to pretend she had to go get Joanie or to just walk outside.
Alison’s demise felt demoralizing to me, in a surprisingly strong way. I guess I’m getting old.
I also really like Luisa, although I didn't initially when she met Cole (and was sleeping with loser Scotty).
I am fairly certain that Ben tied up his wife in the second version, not in the first. Of all the things he said, that might be the biggest red flag. When he shot the teen in version #1, I honestly thought it was in the heat of the battle thing. Although not right, it does happen frequently in war and sometimes, in police shootings.
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On 2018-08-05 at 9:12 PM, WalkerTalker said:
Thanks, but where do we find that thread? . It wasn't under C for comic books, P for preacher, and under Off Topics Comic books under shows, or forums. I do have trouble finding stuff at times. I depend on notifications from others to get on threads most of the time. Any help you can give me would be appreciated.
Pretty simple really - just click on the hyperlink. (The red underlined comic thread in Princesspurssalot's post:)
On 2018-08-04 at 12:14 PM, PrincessPurrsALot said:Congregants,
Let's keep the comic talk out of the episode threads please. We have a comic thread for those that want to talk comics or compare the arcs between the show and the comics. Even though the show does not treat the comics as the Bible, it is best to keep the chatter separate.
Stepping away from the lectern to leave a spot for the preacher and the good book.
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I am disappointed but perhaps not that surprised. I only watched a few but they seemed to lack the magic of The Soup. I did think it might take a bit to get into the swing of things again and became too busy to try it again. I think that may be how it went with other longtime McHale fans. I definitely think he is one of the most talented comedian/actors out there, so I hope he finds another suitable vehicle soon, one that uses his talents as well as Community did.
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On 2018-08-16 at 10:37 PM, Dewey Decimate said:
Deluded RS and her Dee Reynolds character acting. The gods have shown mercy and she is out, thankfully. (I do, though, have to give her credit for her snappy comeback when Julie asked who tanked her game.)
Fessy - damn, son, you KILLIN' it!!! He actually looks sleek and agile on that sploogy runway. If he does end up winning, I have to admit that were I Hayleigh I might just give him an Old Fashioned under the sheets in admiration and appreciation of what looks to be a stellar performance. I'd really like to see Hayleigh stick around a little longer; her convos with Tyler are like a mongoose and cobra circling each other - very fun. Though who am I kidding - should Fessy win, my bet is on Sam or Scottie getting evicted.
I had to look that up on Urban Dictionary! I thought maybe it was missionary....nope.
For anyone else that's clueless....
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On 2018-08-17 at 2:21 PM, Wandering Snark said:
Hah, bring back 'Beauty and the Geek' it'd be perfect, she'd be so relatable.
I actually had that show in mind, I loved it back in the day. So very very entertaining.
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On 2018-08-09 at 6:43 PM, jumper sage said:
How about they learn to train their faces to be natural and not where make-up? Who the hell wears make-up to a pool, beach etc? My mom would scare us girls by telling us a family lore story of how some boy cousin ran screaming from the honeymoon room because his new wife's face was covered with craters once she took off her makeup. Lesson learned.
That's a hilarious (and obviously fake story that your mom told you) but in essence, I've always thought that. I wouldn't want to impress somebody with my "flawless" looks and then one day, they see what I really looked like and are completely shocked. Not that I think I look that much different but other than grade seven (when I wore BLUE eyeshadow!), I've never worn much makeup. Also because I am somewhat lazy and I found it an enormous effort to use makeup removers to get it all off, especially around the eyes. I always thought that the wrinkles I am causing my wiping off the mascara and eyeshadow (gave up on eyeliner instantly), more than outweighed the benefits of highlighting my best feature.
On a related shallow note, I WAS that cousin. I met a guy at a house party (in grade 8 at that time) and agreed to go on a date with him. Unfortunately, we met and had a great conversation in the dark basement. When I actually saw him in the light, I saw - yep, tons of craters. Major acne problem. I made some excuse, cut it short and never saw him again. Shallow PreBabylonia.
On 2018-08-09 at 8:24 PM, xtwheeler said:If others are unable to do the mental math required to understand makeup slightly alters one's appearance maybe one does not possess the requisite mental faculties to be entering into an adult relationship.
But please, tell us more about how the woman's skin texture was a legitimate reason to run screaming from a marriage. I guess I was naively under the impression that relationships like marriages* were meant to be based on more than literal skin-deep qualities.
*obviously not BiP relationships
Ha, you can't blame the young Jumper Sage for fables her mom told her! Of course a relationship (and ultimately that marriage) should be based on a lot more than looks once you've gone out for a while. Looks are most important when you first meet someone, but they are easily overtaken by more important qualities: intelligence, kindness, similar sense of humour, shared values, sincerity, communication skills etc. I myself am more of a sucker for charm than looks - his personality quickly affects how attractive I feel about him. I do think someone that hides her looks under excessive makeup may have a problem with revealing her vulnerabilities though, and it may indicate some personal issues that are going to cause conflict down the road.
On 2018-08-10 at 8:00 AM, Mabinogia said:Oh, there are women out there who know how to apply pounds of makeup that more than slightly alter their appearance. IDK why they would, but they do. And they spend a small fortune doing it. Remember Ashley I's makeup suitcase? The sad thing is, she's not an unattractive girl, but the Kardashians have taught her that she's not good enough so slather on all this shit we shill so we can get richer and richer off your stupidity!
I'm always suspicious of any woman who wears full makeup to the beach, or in bed, especially in bed. Honey, your skin needs to breath sometime!
Of course, when I was a teen and tried to wear makeup I got so agitated with having something on my face that I'd wash it off by lunch (if I made it that far). I still don't wear foundation to this day. Coincidentally (or not so) I have very good skin.
I recall going camping in my teen years and beyond, and there were always a couple of women busy putting on loads of makeup and blow drying their hair after daily shampooing. The remainder of us were happy enough to wander around without bugs in her hair. Hygiene definitely should take a tumble when you are roughing it!
On 2018-08-10 at 2:12 PM, JudyObscure said:I once had a short term allergy problem with my skin and wore Clinique's total coverage make-up for a few months before going back to my usual cheap Cover Girl liquid. It wasn't any "more," make-up or slathered on, it was just more opaque. If someone has chronic acne or very uneven skin tone and regularly wears the sort of make-up that gives good coverage, that just makes sense to me.
I'm always surprised when people can tell who is wearing lots of make-up and who isn't. I remember the year Jade was declared more natural and wholesome than the other women because we could see her freckles -- Jade, the wholesome porn model.
As far as I can tell through TV cameras and Spectrum cable, they are all wearing, foundation, blush, lipstick, eye liner, mascara, gobs of hair product, and in most, if not all, cases, false eyelashes, fake hair extensions and $6000 worth of surgically implanted saline inside their breasts. Given all that, the cost or weight of the woman's foundation barely counts to me in the naturalness contest.
I am pretty much clueless about that too, unless we are talking Ashley I levels of makeup worship. I do tend to notice the fake eyelashes though, and fake boobs. I wouldn't say ALL the women have implants though, some of them are quite small/flat - like Kendall and um Chelsea, I think. Tia's are definitely fake (just like her personality and manufactured drama) but I think Bibi is natural and perhaps some of the other women that I am not so familiar with - ie Astrid & Angela, I didn't watch the seasons they were on and can't tell yet.
On 2018-08-10 at 2:28 PM, Wandering Snark said:
More than the Amazing Suitcase of Cosmetics, I am truly amazed at the cheapness of the set. Really, they couldn't whip up (a la Trading Spaces) a reasonable fascimile of a dresser or makeup table? I truly feel like BIP is just phoning it in this year. I don't know why, they must have saved a lot of cash from Becca's World O'Cheap Bachelorette.
On 2018-08-10 at 2:43 PM, LennieBriscoe said:Some of the women might need to consult Jordan; he's no doubt got the perfect skincare regimen for the tropics!
And pithy phrases, too, like, "Jordan doesn't sweat the sweat." Or "Jordan's got the glow, not the glisten." Or "Jordan Skincare is Professionality."
I'd buy it! ?
I love Jordan! His dialogue is SOOOO much funnier than anyone else, I honestly think he is coming up with it on his own. Probably from his stock dialogue on how to amuse your buddies at parties. I suspect he is far more intelligent than we are given to believe, he is just fully embracing the role for the career opportunities it affords. I breathlessly await his own reality show.
On 2018-08-10 at 2:51 PM, el diego said:Can someone please explain to me why Colton is getting all this hate from other cast members (I mean, I think I know actually why, but...) on how he handled the Tia situation? Let's recap:
1. Colton and Tia meet before The Bachelorette and have a brief time (a weekend?) together.
2. Colton decides to go on The Bachelorette (knowing it's not Tia, I believe?)
3. On The Bachelorette, Tia tells Becca there is no issue with Becca going after Colton as it is done between them.
4. Colton tells Becca it is done between them.
5. Tia tells Becca that actually, she does have "fillins" for Colton.
6. Becca sends Colton home.
7. Neither Tia nor Colton contact each other.
8. Tia goes on BiP hoping to find Colton, he's not there, so she goes on a date with Chris.
9. Colton shows up and doesn't talk to Tia immediately.
Where in the world did Colton do anything remotely wrong in that list? And don't get me twisted, I don't like Colton. I do think he is a lying famewhore even by Bachelor standards (Goose Gang reason for hating him), but Tia is completely self-centered if she thinks he owes her anything. I'm guessing the reason that other girls hate him is some girl code thing? In any case, Tia is absolutely insufferable.
Moving on, I find the discussion on who finds who attractive pretty interesting, so for data collection purposes (and while I'm making lists) here's my official ranking of the female cast members' attractiveness:
1. Kendall
*GAP*
2. Chelsea3. Astrid
4. Annaliese
5. Bibianna
6. Nysha
*GAP*
7. Krystal8. Angela
9. Tia
Honestly, the gap after Kendall is so large that the rest of the list is borderline meaningless. If I were on BiP and Kendall wasn't interested in me I wouldn't even try with the rest of the Day 1 cast. I feel bad putting Angela that low (and below Krystal) because she seems pretty cool, but she's just not my type.
Stray thoughts:
- I sure hope we don't end up hating Joe. I haven't seen anything to indicate that, but it's just a gut feeling that he does something bad.
- Building off that: I always say that the Bachelor series has a lot of parallels with pro wrestling. One of these is that they try to groom characters, often have fan favourites fall into their laps (rather than be the one's they thought would be popular), then they run that character/gimmick into the ground and over-expose them to the point the fans don't like them anymore.
- David seems like an actively shitty person.
- Jordan's commentary is great, it's too bad that he looks like he's gonna get sucked into drama.
- The Goose Gang hyping up Chris at the end was one of the funniest things I've ever seen on the whole series.
- Something about the way Leo says "Have fun with grocery store bitch" in the previews seems so fake to me
- Tia had work done on her boobs, for some reason.
- The change to Wells' intro from last year was a nice touch. Character development and story telling!
- The producers aren't even trying to hide their machinations anymore, are they?
*Fleiss. They just couldn't wait to see what natural human interest stories arose. Or maybe it turns out to be the lamest BIP yet, so they inserted most of it afterwards.
1. Krystal (looks, not personality)
2. Kendall
3. Chelsea
4. Bibiana
5. Annaliese
6. Angela
7. Nysha (I don't know anything about her & she comes across as completely bored/boring here, but superficially attractive)
8. Astrid
{Gap}
9. Tia
On 2018-08-10 at 5:45 PM, Ohwell said:I disagree about Joe, but I do think it's only fair to rate the men. I put 'em in groups...
Top of the heap:
Jordan
Joe
Kenny
Wells
Eric
Middle of the pack:
Connor
Colton
David
Venmo John
Bottom of the barrel:
Kevin
Nick
Wills
Chris
On 2018-08-10 at 6:37 PM, el diego said:I'm a straight male but I'll give ranking the guys a shot. Re: Connor, he wasn't on episode 1, was he? Once he gets on he'll probably be near the top of the list.
1. Wills
2. Joe
3. Jordan
4. Bearded Eric
5. David
6. Colton
7. John
8. Beardless Eric
9. Kenny
10. Chris
11. Nick
12. Kevin
Again, I feel bad rating Kevin at the bottom because I think he's one of the coolest guys there. It's kinda hard for me because I don't really have a type e.g. I'm sure the vast majority of girls would clearly take Colton over John, but my girlfriend (though she hasn't stated it) would almost certainly be more physically attracted to John because he's all angles while Colton is a fridge. Speaking of Colton, a lot of my female friends comment on how attractive he is, but I can't imagine how they get past his baby face. And when I say baby face I don't mean young looking, I mean literal baby.
I agree that this is an underwhelming group. But then again, I think the girls are an underwhelming group, so it's probably good for match ups.
Interesting. This is my grouping:
1. Jordan
2. Joe
3. Wills
4. Kenny
5. Eric
6. John
7. Colton
8. David
9. Kevin
10. Chris
11. Nick
*I can't remember what Connor looks like, but was he the bozo that threw Lincoln's photo into the pool?
**I wouldn't count Wells, since he isn't really part of the cast and is living with Sarah. Didn't see his season either, just his bartending last year.
***Chris Harrison is 50/50 to me. Don't find him attractive when he is smarmy but do find him attractive when he is actively making fun of himself, as he usually does on BIP. Love a man with a self-deprecating sense of humour!
On 2018-08-11 at 3:44 PM, ECM1231 said:Eric is nice looking to me with or without the beard, but I do agree that he looks way better with the beard. But then again, I'm a fan of beards and/or scruff on men.
From what I recall, their marriage in Paradise was NOT legal and they broke up soon afterwards. I vaguely recall something about Marcus saying Lacy ghosted him once they got back to the U. S. or something in that vein.
I find the scruffiness attractive on some men, not others. My #1 choice for an attractive scruffy man is Viggo Mortensen, not so hot when he is cleaned up. In a cast full of attractive men, Viggo was the standout in the Lord of the Rings movies. I too think Eric looks much better with the beard. My problem with him has always been his vocabulary - it's awful. I couldn't be with a man that spoke that way. I also recall that he had some major anger management control in his Rachel season. But he is fairly young, so maybe will outgrow it. Based on watching just this one (and I am quite behind), it looks like he is being Friend Zoned. Looks like he may need to work on other things (career) before he can be taken seriously as a romantic partner.
On 2018-08-11 at 6:51 PM, leighdear said:I will always be in Love with Chris Harrison. I know many think he's the anti-Christ, but I will always adore him.
I mostly like him but I do think he falls in line when they are dealing with controversy. I felt like the reveal of the Bachelor death was extremely manipulated, he didn't have to participate and milk it for show drama.
On 2018-08-12 at 9:22 PM, Mu Shu said:I will fight you with a mace and a Japanese steel katana for the love of Chris Harrison.
I think I love Jordan, simply for sitting on that filthy ass couch in his intro. That thing was so soiled it was slick. And cheering a guy up by pointing out he’s better than Colton because he’s not a Virgin and has better hair products. Good counsel.
this should be a good season, once Bibiana is gone. She’s a try hard with a dated schtick and unfortunate neck.
Crystal! I missed her.
A lot of Attractive women, including a 50 yo I’ve never seen before. Some dumb guys, including that smug Colton. Slim pickings. I think the blonde is especially dumb.
On 2018-08-12 at 9:36 PM, ChiMama said:Who is that skinny foul-mouthed blandly blonde Nick guy? I do NOT remember him at all, but he is not attractive in any way. His personality and inability to say more than two un-bleeped words in a row and excessive bro-ness. Can't stand him. He needs to be the first to go. Pronto.
I don't remember Angela either, like at all.
Ahhhhh Nick. He came across as a quiet dark horse that reminded me of Simon Baker on Becca's season. I think it would have done much more for his reputation if he hadn't appeared on BIP. We wouldn't have known that he's a drunken douche.
I don't remember Angela either, but I suspect she was on a season I didn't watch, like that Ben Higgins. If the Bachelor or Bachelorette is very unappealing, I skip the entire season. As I will do if he is chosen again, as I read he might be.
On 2018-08-12 at 9:42 PM, leighdear said:She reminds me so much of a "Survivor" contestant named Abi-Maria. So unpleasant, confrontational, egotistical about her looks and ZERO ability to pick up on social cues. She always managed to squeak by eliminations because there was inevitably somebody worse to boot out. But every time I saw her on my screen, I wanted to throw my shoe at it. Thankfully she never made it to the finals.
EEEEEEK! I remember Abi-Maria. Not so bad on her second, briefer season but I definitely "TV Show Hated" her. I definitely agree. These inexplicable bouts of anger. You have to wonder what on earth these producers are whispering in her ear....
On 2018-08-12 at 10:25 PM, ChiMama said:Agreed. Wasn't there a girl once who was an actual funeral director? She made it to the hometown dates and put the hapless bachelor on the embalming table as I recall. Fun times. Kendall's patter seems somewhat producer-directed -- trying to amplify her "character." I will say that she delivered her lines very naturally . . . she seems like a very pleasant and intelligent girl.
I remember her! She was awesome. Definitely the most interesting woman in her season. Oddly enough, I have forgotten the bachelor. It might have been that blonde guy - the one that keeps showing up. Married with one or two kids now. Anyway, must have something to do with dealing with dead bodies. Makes you innately interesting. Like Norman Bates....
On 2018-08-13 at 12:01 PM, ljenkins782 said:I agree that her conversation appears to be attempting to drive the character she's creating, but I don't think she's very natural at delivering the lines. She seems like a smart person, but not terribly fun. There's something a little stilted and awkward about her that it doesn't surprise me when she's not all that sought after, despite being extremely pretty.
She does look stunning from some angles and then not so much from others, but Kevin is the real two-face for me. When he puts a hat on (I guess to cover that giant five-head) and turns his head, he's a dead ringer for James Marsden, who is super hot, but then from other angles and hatless, he looks hideous.
From night 1 and the previews, it seems like this season has a crapload of people on it. I don't remember such a huge cast in the past.
Who is the constantly cursing blonde guy who was annoyed that he "wasted his time" on one of the girls? I can't place what season he's from, but he's giving off the biggest douche vibes of anyone there. He's totally that guy who's full of compliments until someone says no thanks and then he turns around and calls them a fat bitch or whatever. I really hope he's the rose-less one at the first ceremony, I watch this show for ridiculous people I don't see in real life, that guy could be found desperately trolling at any bar at 2 am anywhere.
Yes, Kendall IS very awkward, and she seems to get very dehydrated during her talks, maybe from anxiety. I agree she is very intelligent but I don't think she is lacking in fun, just more introverted than extroverted. So a very strange choice to go on these reality dating shows - but the Bachelor producers seem to love her. I think I would prefer to see her hosting a TV science show, or perhaps a dating show for nerds.
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On 2018-08-12 at 6:19 PM, BlancheDevoreaux said:
But Taystee refused to listen and went to trial. Now she is in federal prison for the rest of her life. Or maybe she is getting the death penalty. I don't know. I do know it isn't good and it all could have been avoided by her if she had just once listened to someone more informed on the subject she might not be in this terrible situation paying for a crime that she didn't commit.
Also, when they first showed Barbara and Carol lying on the ground, did anyone else think it was going to be Freida who did them both in? I admit, I was a little disappointed that it wasn't. Hoping that when Red gets out of SHU, she is put in Florida. I'd like to see how she and Freida get along from here. Red pissed me off going at Frieda instead of seeing her grandkids. She's my favorite character and when she did that, I probably got more irritated than is rational.
Hands down, the saddest part for me was Diablo standing there with flowers waiting for Blanca. I so wanted those two to have a happy reunion and go off together to make lots of babies.
I love Freida! It would have been fitting if it had been her, although I don't want to see an added sentence for my favourite character. I don't know how Red would end up back in Florida but I am definitely looking forward to seeing the two of them dealing with this sometime in the future.
On 2018-08-13 at 7:22 AM, Ray Adverb said:If this was just the character, I could roll with it. TV characters don't always have to be likable or sympathetic. But it feels like the writers are trying to set her up as a folk hero and an innocent person railroaded by the justice system at every turn. Like the viewers are supposed to be on her side. We are supposed to agree that she was right to demand the guard be prosecuted for Poussey Washington's death. Like we are supposed to believe she was right when she used hostages to demand this. I would be far less annoyed if a few characters in the show would hold her accountable for her tasks. Caputo was the only one who even tried.
Tasha Jefferson is likely going to be sentenced to death. Dayanara Diaz took a plea for life. Tasha went to trial, so she's not going to get off that easily. You are correct though that she will spend the rest of her life in prison. That will just be fewer years than Dayanara.
As much as I hate Tasha, I can't blame her for fighting the case. She knew she was innocent and thought she had a chance. It was worth a chance and she didn't have a lot to lose. Even her better, paid for lawyer, didn't have much of a case. It seemed to hang on character witnesses and seemed to border on jury nullification if you ask me..
It wasn't clear to me either, whether she would be sentenced to death. Normally I think she would reappear in court for the official sentencing. I do know that it's life, not a death sentence, strictly from having read a few interviews with the showrunner and cast.
On 2018-08-13 at 8:29 AM, BlancheDevoreaux said:I am betting we will see Piper being just as annoying but crusading for whatever on the outside. Unfortunately, I think it is likely I will agree with her cause and still end up completely annoyed because she is just an annoying character. I also think there is zero chance she stays true to Alex. She is one of those people who always has to have someone. Needy, whiny, and clingy, she can't be expected to go through life without a partner at her side. She'll end up cheating. At least, if they stay true to her character, she'll end up cheating.
Yes! I agree to everything here.
I usually find Piper annoying too, and not a bit boring, but she has her moments. I think of them like Captain Kirk monologues - or Kyle/Stan in South Park or Jeff in Community - inspirational speeches meant to unify the group and find the moral of the story. Usually Piper is mocked but occasionally, it works. I think the kickball speech actually worked. Definitely think it's going to be useful in her future call for prison reform. Can totally picture Piper showing up on celebrity news shows like The View and The Talk, especially once she writes that memoir and publishes it.
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2 minutes ago, MBayGal said:
Thanks Preeya, for reminding me who B Fraser played. He was important, but looked so unlike what Fraser used to look like, I had a hard time connecting him to the character..
Yes, he used to be absolutely gorgeous. Last season really was a mess, now that I think about it. It was never clear to me that Noah actually invented Brendan's prison guard doppleganger, wasn't convinced that he had indeed stabbed himself. Not sure if Brendan was still a dick in the prison or if most of his abuse was also in Noah's head.
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19 minutes ago, ganesh said:
And her costar is the guy who plays Hitler on Preacher! hahahaha. Seriously, though she seems like a fairly decent actor in that clip. I've said before, accent aside, the character is terrible, and I just don't think she had a lot to work with.
My only concern would be that with Carol out of the picture, TPTBs want to make her boss-level, and in show-reality the only way that works is if the rest of the characters are dumbed down, and that's just lazy writing to me.
Wow, I didn't notice that! Did you recognize the actor right away or check out the cast list? Hitler is currently my favourite villain on Preacher. (Dave Hilter)
Yes, it would make for a terrible season if she's the big bad. Perhaps they have noticed at this point that it's just not working and she'll be done away with in short order. If we're lucky, she'll be out of there within the first two episodes.
10 minutes ago, Sakura12 said:Since no one paid any attention to her and even her most devoted minion decided to catch the ball instead of shank anyone. I cant see any of them listening to her anymore.
I actually got the impression that Alex will take over as kingpin of C block. She thinks she peaked during her time as an international drug smuggler and wanted to go to business school. What better way to do both, by running a drug smuggling operation in prison. She has more contacts than Alieda. If she has the ideas and can get the drugs the other prisoners will gladly follow her over Madison who has nothing and isn't smart enough to be in charge.
I don't think anyone would pay her attention anymore either. Brilliant suggestion for Alex! Makes sense with her looking over her life's accomplishments.
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On 2018-08-07 at 8:13 PM, One4Sorrow2TooBad said:
Putting on my firesuit ,ready for the fire bombs,lol. I'm just happy to see two people find someone who truly__ is head over heels in love with them and are really happy. It's hard to find that anymore in this mad world. God Bless these two crazy kids and I I wish nothing but true happiness and love and a wonderful family of kids to them.
Awwww that's nice, you're so optimistic! I don't think it's going to work out either but at least Becca scored some nice dresses and a couple of good trips. And managed to wash Arie out of her errrrr....hair.....
14 hours ago, BiteTheLime said:Well, yeah. I mean, only a Nazi would decide to buy FOUR pure-bred puppies from a PET STORE when there are a million perfectly good shelter dogs who need homes!!
Oh I hope not! Are people naive enough to purchase dogs and cats from pet stores anymore? PetSmart has adoption days (only cats and kittens I think) but otherwise I think most rational people would stay far away from canines coming from a pet store. Did they mention this on the show? I watched the entire season but couldn't get thru the finale. Kind of quit while Garrett was snivelling at her parents home.
Looked over the ring. It looked kind of gaudy. I might have been impressed if I was still eight-years-old. I am surprised that they couldn't have gotten the ring sized before that video interview.
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1 hour ago, ganesh said:
I think half of that is right. I can't really say she was intimidating more than annoying though.
Oh, I just meant intimidating since she had a backup posse to follow thru and the authority of Carol behind her. Otherwise, she herself did lack any power. Nobody listened to her at the kickball game and the only times she had any solo juice was in surprise attacks, like knocking Piper over from behind or pulling out her shiv (or is that shank?) on a smaller opponent in a small space. I am actually looking forward to seeing her get taken down by anyone in the prison. There's annoying and then there is Negan level of annoying. (TWD) She's a low level henchman type of annoying.
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I didn't mind Rachel too much in her own season (although I liked her less and less as it went on), but she has become truly objectionable thru-out her appearances since, on the Bachelor Winter Olympics and on the Bachelor. Now she is whining about the editing on her season. At least this should mean that we won't have to see her again. Pretty stupid move on her part. I suppose we'll be seeing Becca and Garrett instead, although I really hope that Garrett keeps his mouth shut.
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On 2018-07-31 at 4:36 AM, D.CBies said:
I think all this horrible speculation and gossip about Julie and Kathy is uncalled for. Grow up. It doesn’t make things better when people make stuf up without knowing all the details. I thought we was analyzing a reality game, not attacking people that are not in the show. It’s none of our business. Marital problems are between the married couple. Every marriage has some. Don’t throw stones. Chill.
I think you forgot the thread we are posting in - it's all about Julie Chen. This particular discussion began with some of us suggesting that
ifwhen Les Moonves gets turfed out, Julie should go with him because: they're married, she's "not innocent," she only has the job because of him etc. I'm on the other side, because I think she deserves the job on her own merits and there is no suggestion anywhere that she knew what he had been doing or that she supported or helped him to do so or hide it in any way. I agree marital problems are their business not ours but it sounds like some people think that means she is just as bad a person as him and should lose her job. But this is a discussion forum and we are here to intelligently discuss it without getting personal or attacking other posters. Including telling them to grow up...in the words of the Quora Forum, be nice.On 2018-07-29 at 12:14 PM, icemiser69 said:All I said is that I don't believe Julie and Kathy Lee are innocent victims. I didn't blame them for anything. That is my opinion.
I am sorry but I just don't understand what you are saying. How can you say they're not innocent, and then say you don't blame them? The opposite of innocent is guilty. You're contradicting yourself here. I don't have to approve of Julie getting involved with Moonves when he was still married, to think that it's immaterial when it comes to deciding whether she keeps her job. And I do agree with D.CBIES that we don't know all the details of their personal affairs anyway. For all we know, Moonves and his wife were already separated or living together but practically separated in a large house with separate bedrooms. It would matter a lot to then, but not at all to us. I just want to keep my Big Brother host. I've already seen a lot of terrible reality show hosts so I really appreciate her. If you don't think she's all that, then I suggest you watch any season of Big Brother Canada. Cox is terrible. So are all the Canadian hosts of international shows, I have no idea why, when we have good hosts for CBC shows. But the private networks in Canada are not so good.In comparison, Julie is a prize.
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On 2018-08-06 at 5:28 PM, ganesh said:
As a background character sure. You said it yourself though, it's ridiculous that she'd be in charge of planning/setting up the gang fight at the kickball game. Except for inadvertently getting Piper released early, everything else she was involved with could have been handled by other characters.
I think the point of Madison is to give us a character we haven't seen before, a type of mob enforcer. Carol was using her as an useful idiot. She was good at intimidating the new "cookies" and keeping the old ones in line, but it was pretty obvious that Carol didn't like her nor respect her. If anyone challenged her sufficiently, oh well, she was highly expendable. Apparently she is coming back in season 7, so I think we will probably see a fight between Daddy and Madison to take over Carol's top dog spot. Daddy is easily twice as intelligent as Madison though, so unless some lucky break comes her way, I am expecting Daddy to take her out in an especially vicious way. Then we'll see how that much power corrupts Daddy and the effect it has on Daya. So I still see Madison as a secondary character, but one that may trigger a bigger conflict. I hope so anyway, because I find Madison to be too dumb to make a great uber villain, like Vee was.
Regarding her accent, Amanda Fuller says she was told to come across with a Boston accent and modelled it on Ben Affleck and to a lesser degree, Amy Ryan. The link I attached shows clips from the movie she is promoting as well as her speaking in her normal voice. I thought she also spoke strangely in her movie role and had a few vocal mannerisms that also showed up in Madison. I don't know anyone from Boston so I wouldn't have known if it was typical or not but I do know that I couldn't figure out some of the words she said, no matter if I rewound the show. Seems like a complete voice fail to me.
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On 2018-07-27 at 9:54 PM, Chaos Theory said:
Although better then the previous two seasons Season 6 of OITNB still suffers because it makes all the guards either evil or stupid while most of the inmates either violent or victims. There is very little middle ground or nuance. The end to Taystee's trial was predictable. It was so predictable that I could't even feel that bad for her.
I have enjoyed all of the seasons but this was the one that actually made me tear up, over Taystee's address to the jury. Probably the only ending possible but I really really wanted her to be found not guilty.
As for the guards, I just don't think that is a great occupation. It pays well for minimum training (but not so well that most of them will moonlight with legal or illegal jobs). I think it probably does attract a large proportion of violent bullies that can get away with tormenting humans, and is a great job for misogynists. The kind conscientious guard tends to get disillusioned quickly and either embraces the power or leaves the job. Same with the inmates. I usually feel sympathetic for most of the women, the flashbacks really get to me, but we always see impulse control is at the heart of their bad decisions. Some of us might be tempted to do something like steal or badly hurt another person but are held back by fears we'll get caught or the belief that to do so would be wrong. These women don't have those barriers and it is fascinating to watch people that are completely unlike myself.
On 2018-07-28 at 8:24 PM, leighdear said:I'm just going to assume that Piper is off to write her memoirs, safely back home with her parents. She'll visit Alex a few times, then the relationship will just ghost itself. The rest of the characters don't really interest me. The ending with Lorna's blood-soaked crotch, and the oh-so-convenient mention that she's 7 months along is the "cliffhanger" for next season, I presume.
I won't be back next season. I had to push myself to finish this one. The woman playing Madison can't act her way out of a paper bag, so trying to cram her in as a big bad with Carol & Barb and their minions is just too much I don't give a crap about.
They should have called time of death at the end of last season. Now they're just flogging the corpse.
I can't think of any TV shows that either bored or disillusioned me enough to stop watching, other than Grey's Anatomy and The Walking Dead. GA was entertaining but I found less and less interest in staying invested when Isiah Washington left. followed by two other originals a few years later. I am hate watching TWD because deep down inside, I expect something to change and it will be restored to its previous glory. Completely unlikely at this point with the loss of Andrew Lincoln but still....I hate to give up on these shows. I have never hated Piper like so many other people do but I still think she is the least interesting character on the show, so I think it can easily live without her recurring presence. I would be fine if she stayed on the show as a guest actor.
On 2018-07-28 at 9:28 PM, WhosThatGirl said:And also.. I get that real life prisons have these exact issues but there was too much torture actually.. like I couldn’t really deal. It seemed like there was a lot of torture and that seems to be the new thing for this show, doesn’t it? Two seasons ago it was the new guards being violent towards the prisoners and then it was the prisoners doing so to the guards and now we’re
On 2018-07-29 at 1:54 AM, Blue Plastic said:Yeah, that was a crappy artistic choice on the show's part. They must have thought the sound drop made the verdict reveal more dramatic, but it didn't. I did feel bad for Taystee as I mostly like her, but the convict/not convict was not too much of a surprise from a "suspense" point of view. Most likely IRL she would be convicted unless Caputo could have somehow exposed the falsified autopsy but he didn't have the wherewithal to do that.
Yeah, I kept wishing for Badison to get killed, but alas. Looks like they are positioning her to be the main antagonist next season, unfortunately. I hope Carol and Barb are both really dead. They were annoying. Plus Old Carol (the sister with the eyeglasses) reminded me too much of The Freak from Wentworth and I was scared they might want to give her the same treatment (repeat seasons).
It seems like Sofia and Piper should both be gone now. Not sure if they can keep one or both in the show out the outside like they have managed to do with Alaida. It seems weird to be without Piper, though, since she is the character we started with. As much as she annoyed me, I'd like to see her from time to time on the outside just at least to complete her narrative. But realistically, she would write her memoir and probably forget about Alex. No way the character as they have portrayed her would be able to wait for at least 4 years. I kept waiting for Piper to get more time added even at the last moment, either by her own doing or something caused by another inmate so was glad to see her actually walk out.
Would they really just send any undocumented immigrant released prisoners right from prison to ICE without telling them that was going to happen? They wouldn't tell them not to bother arranging for someone (i.e., Diablo) to pick them up? I mean I follow the news so I have heard about what ihas been going on *ahem*, not meaning to get too political, but I guess I thought they would tell an undocumented immigrant who is already in prison that they will be detained by ICE upon release?
Why didn't Flaca tell the other inmates about the Fantasy Inmate game?
Glad Pennsatucky left Donuts.
Don't really care too much about Lorna's baby. It's either not going to make it OR Vinnie will come get it and she will never see it just like the other mother characters never see their children.
I don't know, how can you portray the goings on in a maximum security prison without seeing all the verbal and physical violence? Otherwise it would be the Hogan's Heroes version of prison and I don't think that would fly in 2018. I do prefer to see the fictionalized version as opposed to reality shows that selectively interview and portray aspects of being an inmate. They manage to interject brief comic moments and I find that gives me the room to tolerate the more horrible things that take up much of the show.
I liked the silent verdict reveal, it worked for me. Just like in a car accident, sometimes all you can focus on are the visuals, not the sound. It was almost as if Taystee didn't hear the verdict, she reacted to the visuals of all the people around her.
I think they threw in the Sofia plot just to give closure to the character. Laverne Cox is in such high demand that I could see the show is pretty low on her list of priorities so I thought it was great to see her briefly again.
From what I've read, they make ICE pickups from police stations and court appearances, so I don't think it would be unrealistic to have her grabbed right outside the gate. Given that the company now has the immigration contract too, she might be sent to live nearby and stay a regular character. I hope so, she's grown on me.
Flaca doesn't seem all that interested in anything that doesn't involve fashion and beauty tips and romance, so I am not surprised that she doesn't want to create waves with the guards. By
On 2018-07-29 at 5:25 AM, Ray Adverb said:I hated Tasha Jeferrson. I will not call her by that stupid nickname. Nicknames are a sign of affection. I hated that her desire for revenge led to her single-handedly ruining reforms for the entire prison. And now she's treated as some awesome folk hero. Even though, again, she fucked over the entire prison population. She is nothing but a selfish little brat and designated victim. Seeing how she skated by with no consequences for betraying the prisoners, I was actually surprised she was convicted. I thought they'd continue the theme.
I'd actually forgotten that she had initiated the riot. Still doesn't mean she should have been wrongly convicted for the murder though. I like the fact that she's a very complex character. Really dislike how she acts at times (and feels completely sorry for herself) but can still pull at our heartstrings.
On 2018-07-29 at 7:49 PM, ExplainItAgain said:Wow, just finished. I was wondering the whole time what they saw in Blanca's file that interested them, yet she ended up with no additional time. Poor Diablo, my heart sank for him.
The outcome of Taystee's trial was really the only way they could go. Maybe Caputo and Piper can team up next season to get the truth. I can't imagine that they'd drop Piper from the show. I bet Sophia is done though.
I'm glad Maria turned the kickball game around and I'm kind of glad Aleida chose her other kids over Daya. Daya's in for life, but she's right, she has a chance to save her other kids.
They need to have more pat downs in Max - people can sure hide a lot of drugs and shivs on their persons.
ETA: So, Alex flushed her application? Also, Luschek - spineless coward.
Yeah Luschek. One of the nicer guys on the show but - still creepy and cowardly at heart.
I didn't realize that was Alex's application - I thought it was some kind of incriminating note about the gang. Considering that she was carrying that booklet around everywhere, I should have paid more attention.
On 2018-07-29 at 8:47 PM, kieyra said:Attention showrunners:
Hopefully you realize by now that Badison was just bad. She was the worst part of the season. Not in a “look, we made a compelling antagonist” way, but rather in a “I skipped her scenes unless they seemed absolutely crucial to the main characters’ plots, and even then I hated every second.”
I like that they included a garden variety small minded mean villain that's not very intelligent but has a talent for maliciousness and getting her own way. I am sure the real prisons are full of people like that. However, she isn't interesting enough to carry a plot so I too would like to see her get eliminated, by the second episode at least. Maybe she and Daddy can battle it out and Daddy wins. Speaking of Daddy, I am still confused by her backstory. Sure, cover up the death of one of your girls so you're not caught pimping and to get rewarded handsomely by the killer, but why oh why keep him as a client and especially set him up with your girlfriend? I am wondering if the later reveal will tie in with Daya in some way. At this point I am pretty frustrated with Daya myself and I'm hoping that she doesn't take a main plotline next season.
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9 minutes ago, ganesh said:
Do we though? The entire system is really the villain. The struggle to not fall deeper into drugs, crime, etc., seems enough of a dramatic struggle.
Yeah, but they like putting a personal face to the horror of the system, and the best way to do that is show us even bigger threats, threats to their lives not just their freedom. Also they need to shake it up so they don't repeat themselves or else it resembles other seasons. We are now in the hardcore cells so I would expect that we will see more terrifying types of inmates. Even worse than Vee - the best villain we've had yet. Completely unredeemable.
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10 minutes ago, ganesh said:
He didn't die from the gun shot though. They brought him to medical and one of the other inmates put air in his IV and gave him a stroke.
That's right, I completely forgot! You either have a great memory or rewatched it. So Daya shouldn't be charged with murder but....attempted murder? And I think it was either Suzanne or her girlfriend that fiddled with the IV. He didn't die from the stroke though - did the guards mercy kill him?
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2 hours ago, Ohwell said:
Even if the stories about Leo are true--and that's a big IF--it's none of Bekah's business and if the women have issues with Leo, it's their business, not Bekah's. And why are these grown-ass women contacting her anyway? If there were issues with Leo, why didn't they contact the Bachelor producers? Who made Bekah the Bachelor Police?
She inserted herself into the situation to keep herself in the spotlight, that's all.
I don't agree. These women contacted her because she is part of Bachelor Nation, she can draw attention to it. If she ignored what they sent her, it looks like she is complicit in what happened.
I am surprised though that Leo is going after her. He actually had a very well crafted apology for the women that didn't admit to harassing them but said he didn't always behave as well as he should when young. Admittedly he probably didn't write it, but it was good to see that it wasn't one of those, sorry not sorry statements you frequently see. I did have the impression that Leo didn't assault or harass them but was probably a bad date or a jerk, kind of like Aziz Azaria. Now I am wondering if it is something much worse. Can't blame Bekah though - she's just the middlewoman. I don't know what I would have done in her place, but I suspect the same thing.
I initially didn't like Leo. I thought he was overly harsh and sarcastic in the first couple of episodes. I thought I was wrong because so many people here loved him....
I am definitely getting the feeling that the producers didn't care that much for Becca. They gave her the worst dates and destinations, and half-assed criminal and social media checks. If they take this show at all seriously, they need to fire their current vetting company and find a much better one.
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17 hours ago, JudyObscure said:
But I'll bet they would also tell you that when they were first dating their wives had a much stronger sex drive and they were much more open to trying new things. Those are things that can change drastically over the years for both men and women. I know women whose husbands have gone from sex-every-night boyfriends to internet porn addicts who don't come to bed until three. I guess I just don't have much faith in the fantasy suite test drive as a predictor of future behavior.
Yes, that's true, I've heard that as well!
I think the Fantasy Suite is useful just to see if right now you have sexual chemistry, although I think great kissing is a pretty good indicator of how well it will go. Since most of us don't wait to consummate the relationship until marriage anyway, it probably doesn't matter. That could be one reason some of these relationships flounder a few months or a year later.
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11 minutes ago, yourmomiseasy said:
What usually happens now that it isn't common in school is that the kids that can afford it take private, those that can't just wait until they are 18 to get a license because then it isn't required (for what it's worth, you can do the ed part online for like $29, but training is probably going to run at least $225). To be honest, it's more and more common to wait until you are 18 to get a license anyway due to all of the restrictions on a minor license and kids are just weird these days -- I don't get it, I was in line at the DMV with all my ducks in a row as soon as I was 15 1/2, but back then there weren't provisions on a minor license. Private driving school is still called driver ed and driver training officially. Driver ed is the classroom portion and driver training is the behind the wheel portion as defined by the DMV.
I wish they would because I think collectively we've probably put more thought into it than the writers.
In Canada (or at least my province), we get a discount on our insurance if we've taken drivers education. That's one of the reasons why we wanted our boys to take it. Does it work like that in California?
Yeah, not only are some of these posters dead on with the details, but they often come up with far more interesting plotlines and character developments. Many of them would be fantastic writers! Maybe Netflix should be trolling PreviouslyTV to grab showrunners, I heard (on South Park) that they'll greenlight just about anything!
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25 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:
What an ugly tape to be replayed in your mind. Was it the haircut?
I don’t really see any reason for the guards to be as bad to the prisoners as they are except the fact that they can get away with it. Power trips.
A bit and also the eyes. He has very striking eyes (although they may be a different colour now that I think of it). I actually used to think Matt Lauer was good looking back in the days when he had hair. Gag.
*still working on finding those recipes!
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On 2018-07-27 at 6:43 PM, ExplainItAgain said:
The casting for little Frieda last year was so good and they found someone who looks just like her but more grown-up. I loved her elation at finding out she's in Florida - with Kokomo playing over the scene.
That mid-range fruit basket! Not enough for Linda - I kind of like her character now and I'm interested to see where this little plotline goes.
Piper interpreting the message to be about Alex was so Piper and I'm over Badison at this point.
That was such a great way to end the episode. A happy ending!
On 2018-07-29 at 10:19 PM, jenifaohjenny said:Agreed. I really 100% don’t care about Madison. I care about the characters we love that you aren’t showing...enough introducing new people.
But we need a new villain. The guards can't always be the worst part of their lives. It emphasizes how ruthless this new environment will be.
On 2018-07-31 at 7:51 AM, IDreamofJoaquin said:I love Frieda's theme music.
Me too! Frieda has my favourite backstory and the music just completes it. Can never get enough Frieda. Love her interaction with Red, Actually love Red in scenes with anybody. I can't believe how much I love Kate on this show. I couldn't stand her on the Star Trek show or as Mrs. Columbo.
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On 2018-07-28 at 1:07 PM, Mindthinkr said:
The higher ups don’t want the truth or care about it. They just want to make the package that is due in a little under a week to be presentable and then clear their desks of this riot business.
I really though popcorn guard was going to go into the break room after the door knob came off. So he popped the corn for 5 seconds less and half didn’t pop? Poor baby. Hope that he doesn’t project his anger onto a prisoner.
Yes. agreed to your first point. I enjoyed the popcorn distraction. Didn't we already see him kicking at least one of the prisoners? I could be mixing him up with one of the other lesser guards in the background though. The main bad guy - shaved head and very dark eyebrows - kept reminding me of Matt Lauer. I think I am going to be remembering that one this season. He might be the #1 Bad Guard.
On 2018-07-28 at 4:11 PM, ganesh said:He did, but that's all they showed. I think the point of his scene was 'rebirth' or whatever. Which was why he seemed so 'zen' ish now.
I do hope there's more flashbacks. They never showed Daya shooting the guard in S5 right? I'd like to get that clarified.
I love it because it's so just there. I don't know how to put it. I think Fig is weirdly hot. I cracked up when the actor was on Broad City.
I like how the bad food is a running gag.
I just can't stand anything to do with her. I hope this isn't a main feature either.
I like the flashback Cindy actor.
I'm always rooting for him. My favorite scene was his genuine joy "You did it!" to T when Fig told them the state would give in to their demands. I get that he's stewing because he's got nothing to do, but yeah, you were in charge when the riot went down and they're paying you to go away. You should go away.
That's got to drop at some point, but I doubt it's going to be as easy as Cindy just telling them.
I am pretty sure that we did see Daya shoot the guard. A large group of the women had the guard encircled in a space where the two hallways intersected, and I was hoping she wouldn't do it.
I too love Fig and Caputo together. They have such great comic timing and fantastic chemistry. I always love it when the only half decent male on the show returns, even if he is highly ineffective most of the time, despite his best efforts. I also liked the goofy redhead guard from the last two seasons. Is he the one that is on the road trip with Rapey and Pennsacola?
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2 hours ago, green said:
Tyler is a mastermind because a mastermind does NOT try to change everything, control everything. Instead a mastermind knows when to hold and when to fold and wait for the next deal. They are careful NOT to overplay.
Yep, Cody was the first bully last season that started that whole atmosphere. He just also was a stupid player who betrayed his own alliance right out of the gate and soon was outplayed and then out-bullied by Paul as a result. Had Cody played smarter out of the gate he could have been remembered as the big bully of Season 19 while Paul would have been his poor victim.
And yes I see joy in Tyler's face in the diary room. He hardcore loves BB and is a massive fan though pretending to be ignorant of the game inside this house and he is doing it brilliantly. So why wouldn't he be happy as a clam to find himself in his dream situation playing the hell out of the game. There doesn't seem to be one mean bone in his body, just a happy high from having so much fun this summer and an amazed joy at how badly the other side has been playing.
About the GIF stuff. I AM a techie and have worked in tech all my life and everyone I know pronounces it with a hard G as in Graphics. I never even knew anyone pronounced it like a peanut butter brand. Especially since there is another format actually spelled JIFF and pronounced like peanut butter for real.
**Loved your entire post, Green! And I am a Hard G true believer too. No way I am using the peanut butter pronunciation.
I am loving Tyler's play too. I do wish there was another strategic thinker in the game, to make it a good match-up but what can you do? We very seldom see that. At times I think we will get that from Scottie but he does seem to be fairly gullible and trusting at times. Tyler is also physically talented (although he usually holds it back), and if he continues to stay under the radar and keep his many connections hidden, I think it will definitely get him to the final three at least. What I like about him is that he doesn't come across as nasty like Paul did. I actually enjoyed watching Paul play (unlike many) - it's fascinating to watch a master manipulator, or at least it is to me, since I could never be that person. But he did so many things (or triggered others to do mean things) that made me cringe. Tyler's worst comments would be saying things like "Kaitlin thinks she is my #2, but actually she is way down there at #10 or lower (paraphrase) - and then he laughed. Keeping in mind how annoying Kaitlin could be (and mean herself), I thought it was funny. He also makes me laugh. I wasn't a fan of Derek at all, but I am fine if Tyler is the eventual winner. In fact, I can't think of anyone else in the house that I see so positively.
1 hour ago, Halting Hex said:Well, for all their "bad playing", they've eliminated three of Tyler's supporters in the past three weeks. Perhaps Ty might want to come down from his "happy high" and try to save somebody other than himself and his inevitable block partner, Brett. I know I'm still playing alternate-reality BB with my "he should have claimed Kaitlyn and Scottie had an alliance" gripe, but it does seem as though it might forestall Tyler's premature descent to L1. ("First they came for Winston, but I said nothing, because I was not Winston", etc.)
"Why do you think Scottie gunned so hard for HoH that week, when he would have been safe as a pawn the week before? I mean, I never understood why Kaitlyn insisted that I take Scottie off with the Veto for the backdoor on Swaggy, when it was obvious that he was a better pawn than Winston would be. But she was protecting him, and then he won HoH to protect her. And then she went out and tried so hard in the next HoH because she wanted to protect him, again…I was so shocked when she told me!" [/fantasy pitch]
MY big memory of Cody (beside his robotic manner), was his complete lack of emotional intelligence. Even Jess had to tell him it wasn't wise to screw over his alliance. In comparison, Tyler is discreet. He is clearly here to play the game and win. One winner, not a team winner. Why should he try to save somebody other than himself unless it helps him win? As we get to know the other hamsters, they become more and more obnoxious. Ultimately, I don't care which one stays. I can't think of which one should win America's Favourite other than Tyler. Things are mostly going his way with little nudges on his part. Not batting 100% but nothing has damaged his gameplay yet. And he still has managed to stay friendly with all of the house. I still like him and I really disliked Derek, the one that had the most similar game IMHO.
As for everybody else, I am kind of lukewarm. Normally I would root for the outsiders but the more I see them, the less I like them. Level 6 remind me of the popular crowd in school. Rachel and Angela particularly seemed like cheerleaders that were competing for the same spot on the team and fell out. I didn't particularly care that Rachel left and I thought she was completely rude to Julie and everybody else in the house. So what that she was blindsided. Many others have been as well but only the most petty and bitter leave without a word or a hug to anyone. I've never seen anyone before ignore Julie's greeting and try to avoid answering any of her questions. I'm happy that she didn't make it into jury.
At this point, Tyler is by far the most likable and interesting to watch. If he wins the whole thing, I guess my nominee at this point is Scottie. Mostly because he made the first bold move by nominating Winston and Brett together. None of the others to this point have been superb players or somebody I actually cared for very much. At the beginning I was rooting for Sam, but I am completely over her now. If there was such a prize for least favourite/worst houseguest, it would be a toss-up between Sam and Shaggy.
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Wow, I must have completely blocked that out, because I actually felt they had a chance in #1, until she charged the cell and I thought oversaw something ominous in Ben's phone. That was truly horrible, especially since their child was crying for mom. That alone would have made me want him to go far far away. Good on you for rewatching. I think it would be helpful to binge on the entire show but I just can't make myself wade thru it again.
I instantly felt like Ben was shady from the first moment we met him, but it's a testament to the actor that I actually felt him become more and more attractive and my misgivings floated away. Until we saw him in Cole's episode at the AA meeting and finally in the second version with Allison. I am very impressed at how well Ramon Rodriguez conveyed the duplicity of the character.