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1 hour ago, statsgirl said:
Rocco is entitled to be angry. He is not entitled to get into the middle of a relationship problem that he doesn't know the whole truth about. He just watched his father get unfairly angry at Gio and now Gio feels like Dante hates him although it's not surprising that a 16 year old boy wouldn't make that connection. There was too much self-righteousness and judgment in his speech to Brook Lynn, but then he is Lulu's son.
Rocco loves his father but if Dante hadn't dumped on Gio like that, Gio would be more open to having a relationship with him since Dante did not know of Gio's existence. Rocco is wrong, it's not all Brook Lynn's fault and none of Dante's.
Not sure what you mean when you say "relationship problem he doesn't know the whole truth about." He said his dad didn't do anything wrong, Gio should be mad at you meaning Dante honestly never knew he was Gio's father because of Brook Lynn and her family. Brook Lynn countered with it's complicated which I interpreted as "I'm not taking accountability that I was wrong not to tell Dante we had a child together." Then without actually saying his mother's name or saying anything directly nasty about her to his face, she blamed his mother for how things have turned out. But Rocco understood her meaning and was understandably not okay with what she said. Brook Lynn is also completely ignoring that her lies and her family's lies have cost Gio and Rocco 15 years of a brotherly relationship when they really both could have used a brother, like when Gio lost his adoptive mom Camilla and Rocco's mother fell into a coma. For someone who claims she really wants to be a mother, she clearly does not care think about or care about (child) Rocco's feelings. Not to mention it's really gross that Lois and Gloria have known all these years that Gio had a brother but just didn't care because they decided they did right by him.
Yes, Dante came down too hard on Gio. My point is that had Dante known years ago Gio was his son, that scene at the hospital over Rocco's alcohol poisoning probably would never have happened because he would mostly likely know Gio better and had more of a trusting relationship with him if not a father-son relationship. He said to their faces and to Lulu that Lois and Gloria wouldn't let any male influences get involved when/if Gio messed up. It sounded like he was hinting at thinking Gio was immature and needed to grow up with some help, but Lois and Gloria decided he was perfect as he was. Rocco is not wrong to think that his parents did not ultimately create this situation.
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8 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:
No, and we won't. Because at the end of the day this story isn't even about her, it's about Drew.
You make a great point. The story is Jason/Michael and Quartermaines v. Drew. It reminds me of legacy character Elizabeth being a prop or supporting player in three Spencer storylines: as a teenage rape victim to re-visit the Luke raped Laura story with Lucky finding out and separating from his parents; as a young mother grieving the "death" of her 4-year-old son so Lucky and Luke could have dramatic scenes about Luke's alcoholism, and most recently Lucky-returns-for-Lulu but can't stay for a normal life with his family because oops, he's a Spencer - he's just so much like Luke and it's great that she's pushing him to be "true to himself." Gag me with a spatula.
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On 6/16/2025 at 1:35 PM, Daisy said:
. plus Lulu's utter insitence that she did nothing wrong despite every single person including the person who she was "doing it for" told her how wrong she is. at that point just shut up and take the loss. no one is thanking you, sweetheart.
Except Gio did sort of thank her by saying an apology isn't necessary, that he only knows the truth about himself because of her. It's ironic that Lulu and Brook Lynn are similar in the way that Lulu says she wasn't wrong (for investigating/uncovering the truth) and Brook Lynn flat out won't acknowledge to Dante or Gio - the two people hurt the most in this - that she was genuinely wrong for lying for 22 years. She told Dante, sorrynotsorry.
On 6/16/2025 at 7:55 PM, madhacker said:She's gonna try to "apologize" and when Gio (rightfully) throws it back in her face, she'll get all upright about it clam that he actually owes her since she got the truth out.
He didn't throw it back in her face. He told her he doesn't need any apology because while what he has heard from her hurt like hell, at least it's real. He didn't even know his real birthdate because of Lois and Gloria.
18 hours ago, statsgirl said:Is it 'dump on Brook Lynn' day? Shut up Rocco. Your dad got a teenager pregnant and never checked on her. Nice 1930s mentality there.
Rocco's entitled to be angry. This mess where his dad and his brother are so angry and hurt could have been avoided if Brook Lynn and her mother and grandmother didn't feel entitled to lie to Dante's face for 22 years. Rocco wasn't wrong. Dante is not psychic. Was he supposed to just figure out that Brook Lynn got pregnant from their hook up because she left camp and went home without talking to him? Brook Lynn already told Chase that Dante was comforting her at camp because she was sooo homesick. It was up to her to open her mouth and tell him she was pregnant. She wasn't a little girl, incapable of speaking for herself. Clearly she wasn't traumatized that he "never checked on her" because she was fine with him in all the years that followed and she even returned to Port Charles as a young adult with goal of seducing him.
14 hours ago, Desperado said:I hate that they’re using the name Vaughn for the WSB guy because I remember Alias’ spy handler Vaughn, and dude is really no match.
I've had the exact same reaction to this character. I really enjoyed Sydney and Vaughn on Alias!
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26 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:
I think they could have chosen a different route than this one. If Rocco knows okay, if Rocco doesn't know, then what does it achieve? But this show loves OTT anger.
It shows Brook Lynn embracing her true nature, that she really doesn't care about her "friend" and baby daddy Dante at all despite her claims otherwise (because it will hurt him that his innocent teenage son and his marriage to Lulu got targeted), it will further alienate Gio, and if Chase is smart it will make him reconsider wanting to have a family with Brook Lynn. He should think okay, what if we have a kid and the child's feelings get hurt because of a classmate or a classmate's parent's conflict with Brook Lynn and their stupid mouth? This happens in real life. Is Brook Lynn's idea of parenting plotting revenge to destroy the parent's life or the classmate's family? How does that show your own child love?
Brook Lynn needs to accept that her son is not okay with the choices she made and he is not obligated to change his mind and embrace her because she's desperate to be a mother at this time in her life.
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On 6/16/2025 at 10:43 PM, Artsda said:
Brooklyn is all about attacking Lulu over hurting her child. When she had no intentions of finding, speaking to or knowing the child was in the house. She intended to live forever lying to Dante, her family and her "son" she's all about now.
Yep. I had a WTH reaction to her snarling at Lulu "You came after my son" like Lulu humiliated Gio on purpose by broadcasting the secret on a screen on the Nurses Ball stage and now he's curled up in the fetal position in a room at the Quartermaines, sobbing for mommy Brook Lynn to fix it. No, Lulu came after your mother in a room with the door closed and they didn't know they'd been heard until Gio had his meltdown on stage.
Brook Lynn hated Lulu for throwing truth in her face, that Gio has already stated. He sees her, her mother and grandmother as liars who are not to be trusted because they did, in fact, lie to everyone. That is on top of the fact that Brook Lynn gave him away and made her choices to hide the fact that he even existed in the first place. Ouch. He never got the chance to have a dad because of Brook Lynn, Lois, Gloria and Camilla yet the three of them who are alive appear to have no remorse about that.
Brook Lynn wants to "prove that Lulu isn't half the mother she claims to be" for herself. It has nothing to do with motherly love of Gio. She thirsts for revenge. She would make great besties with Kristina.
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9 minutes ago, madhacker said:
Carly then claims Gio as part of her family.
Meh, Carly has zero use for or interest in Gio because he's Dante's son. She has resented and disliked Dante from the moment he "replaced" Michael as eldest son of Sonny. The only child Carly has genuinely cared about aside from her own kids or grandkids is Kristina, and that's because Michael has a history of being close to his sister.
When Dante got shot and almost died during the beginning of Jason/SBu's return storyline in spring 2024, Carly was super concerned about Danny, not Rocco. I'm not sure she has ever even spoken to teenage Rocco. It seemed like everyone but Carly was concerned about Rocco due to alcohol poisoning. She went right to Danny to talk to him about his behavior and being a better brother but never dropped by Rocco's room to say hello or even asked Sonny about him as far as I recall.
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1 hour ago, Daisy said:
i miss Mac being the Commissioner.
Me too. I would like for Mac to point out that BOTH Chase and Dante have a conflict of interest now that they have a young man in common who is family to both of them and is Sonny's grandson.
Ugh, Chase's utter devotion to Brook Lynn is weakening his character. He sounded like a total asshat for gaslighting Dante by telling him that Brook Lynn "did you a favor" by never telling him they had a child together because he got to enjoy his youth. I rather enjoyed Dante telling him that no, Brook Lynn did the right thing for herself, not him nor Gio.
So Brook Lynn slapped Lulu because the truth hurts. (Yes, Lulu was mean, but she was also accurate.) That was after the Queen Bitch "your cat nap" reference to a horrible explosion and COMA which involved two children losing years with their mother. Too bad Gio didn't hear that comment.
Glad that Maxie told Brook Lynn to leave once she hit Lulu. It's pathetic that Brook Lynn thinks she's going to get back at Lulu by tearing her down as a mother using files about Britt. Has she forgotten that the son she desperately wants to have a relationship with, has a good relationship with his half-brother Rocco? Gio will not thank her if Rocco gets hurt because she's trying to hurt Lulu and Dante will almost certainly be even more furious with Brook Lynn than he is now. Brook Lynn is also likely to damage her marriage by going down this road. She can't say Granny Tracy didn't warn her (recently).
Lulu and Brook Lynn are most definitely their own worst enemies.
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2 hours ago, sashabear21 said:
Maybe they should pair Lulu with Drew, they both love to double down when they're completely in the wrong.
BLQ absolutely should have told him, maybe not when she was pregnant because she would have had Olivia nipping at her heels every 5 seconds to keep the baby and it would have forced her to have a relationship with a child that she wasn't prepared to raise, but she should have told him at any time in the years past that and she shouldn't have made that contingent on "Well I was going to tell him when I came to town to drug him, but he wasn't interested in me so I didn't tell him". Also Dante's recent assy behavior to Gio, is all on him.
Not even Lulu deserves Drew. And Rocco is a good kid who has suffered enough. He doesn't deserve to have Drew the asshat inflicted on his home (that he shares with his mother) and life.
SO MUCH THIS! Thank you.
1 hour ago, DanaK said:Interesting ending. What does Britt have to do with Lulu?
She had herself implanted with Dante and Lulu's embryo (but Patrick still didn't want her), gave birth to "Ben", raised him as her own baby while living in Lulu's brother Nikolas's home, had a screaming "I'm his mother!" tantrum and tried to get to him when Nikolas found out and kicked her out of Wyndemere, her mother Leisl aka Dr. O who knew what was going on so she kidnapped "Ben" and took him to Elizabeth's home. That hostage situation didn't work out as Leisl planned and she shot Elizabeth.
55 minutes ago, statsgirl said:Is there a point to Brennan other than to prop Carly and get involved in her family?.
Good for Drew pointing out that Jason continues to be absorbed by Michael's family drama while continuing to ignore his own kids Jake and Danny,
No.
I'm legit surprised that Drew remembered Jake exists, and that when he mentioned him Jason didn't say, "Who?"
Also, I want to know why it's okay for a personal dispute between two police officers to be resolved on PCPD time and involving the Police Department's holding cells. Mac should have threatened them with suspension if they didn't knock it off immediately.
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On 6/12/2025 at 11:02 AM, CanaryFan98 said:
Now Liz will even be more marginalized from this show when they could've brought back either Jake/Cameron for her to deal with.
The Show really should bring back Jake for a summer storyline because it's mid-June so his first year at college in Barcelona is over. He could have a storyline involving Elizabeth, Jason and his half-brother Danny. Maybe he can give Jason crap over being a bad/absentee father to his brother re: Rocco's reckless behavior and also letting people believe he was the father of Sasha's baby. I remember the scene where Jake caught Danny vaping during Scout's birthday party. Jason still has no clue that happened.
I would much rather see Elizabeth in a parenting storyline than Kristina's idea to use Elizabeth as bait to get Ric away from Ava and theoretically put an end to the blackmailing scheme caused by her own desire for revenge.
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22 hours ago, Winston Wolfe said:
Lesley Lu is demonstrating some of the negative personality traits she and Lucky seem to share with their father. Both can be overly judgmental and driven by a misguided sense of morality, often unable to acknowledge where they are clearly wrong. And I say that as someone who loves JJ's Lucky.
Speaking of JJ, does anyone know if he gave a reason for leaving? Was it lack of a real S/L? When they didn't put Lucky back on the PCPD or have him accept Brennan's offer to join the WSB, I figured that he wouldn't stick around.
Also, even though you're back on the Barge,@GHScorpiosRule, I hope you read this - we both share an appreciation of JJ's and TC's co-written scene that ended with Nik saying, "Who says I haven't been using an accent the entire time? Farewell, Brother."
I also love JJ as Lucky and you make great points here about what they have in common with Luke.
Yes, as has been stated, JJ said he left because of the commute. I'd say lack of good storyline that properly uses his talents and connects him with a variety of characters Lucky has history with certainly helped make the commute not worthwhile. Not to mention, he's still very passionate about music. He's performing again both at individual events and he along with Nashville castmates announced they'll be going on tour. I saw online he's performing in Illinois next weekend, June 21.
I'm really glad that JJ and TC got to re-write their final scene together and enjoy it both as actors and friends; they couldn't have known TC would die and thus never return to GH to act with JJ in 2024-2025. I feel like JJ and Lucky got to have proper closure/good bye scenes with first TC/original Nikolas, then TG/Luke in their few scenes during TG's retirement storyline, and now BHerbst/Elizabeth and GF/Laura.
13 hours ago, JMO said:Why didn't she do it when she got close enough to try to seduce him away from Lulu? Because she only found out a couple of months ago that she'd been pregnant 22 years ago.
Your second sentence is accurate, lol. She told Chase that she "thought about" telling Dante about their baby when she tried to seduce him, but decided not to because it was clear he didn't have any feelings for her anymore and was truly in love with Lulu. i.e. Oh, you don't want me? Then you don't get to know we have a child together.
13 hours ago, Artsda said:How did Lulu figure it out? With eyes and ears. She knew as much as Brooklyn at that point.
Lulu's ears perked up and she decided to investigate more because she heard Lois say to Dante, "if you knew who he really is" while being highly protectively territorial over Gio as Dante was giving him a hard time about Rocco.
Brook Lynn did not hear or witness any of that interaction.
13 hours ago, DanaK said:She was also a fresh pair of eyes and knew the baby was male (which Brooklyn didn’t know) at that point. She saw Lois acting proprietary towards Geo when Dante was bawling him out and it made her suspicious
It was the "who he really is" line in particular that made her suspicious and question Dante further about Gio, Brook Lynn, Lois and Gloria's history.
1 hour ago, Artsda said:Which is making her cries that Lulu ruined her relationship with her son ridiculous. Brooklyn was basing her facts on lies from her mother, not Lulu.
She started out with accusing Lulu of "trashing Gio's entire life" and "destroying" her - Brook Lynn's life out of hatred. I rolled my eyes that she's being so melodramatic. Yes, Gio is deeply hurt and angry but deciding to move out of the Quartermaines and refusing to have anything to do with her, her mother and grandmother, and Dante is not a "trashed life." He has a place to stay. He's working at the pool, being polite and then helpful/friendly when Laura and Sonny had trouble. He has not disappeared or dropped out of college.
Brook Lynn still has her home, relationships with her dad and stepmother and granny Tracy, her job at Deception, her friendship with Maxie, and her marriage. Her relationships with her mother and Grandma Gloria have been destroyed because they were exposed as liars and conspirators. So, she would rather not have known they betrayed her? Maybe her public image is somewhat messy now because Gio called her out during the Nurse's Ball as the mother who didn't claim him and it's all over Social Media. Why did he do that? Because he realized Brook Lynn, Lois and Gloria had treated his birth and true origin which was after the year 2000, as a dirty little secret. That is very hurtful to find out.
Could Lulu have handled this better? Of course! But Brook Lynn's desperation to have a relationship with her son right this minute, anger that Lulu "should have respected me as a mother" and blaming much of Gio's pain and anger on Lulu is ridiculous.
I thought the scene of her reflecting on the situation with Lulu was well done. Brook Lynn is upset with herself underneath it all, thinking that if she had taken action like Lulu did to find out about the child (not just accepting whatever Lois told her), some of the ugliness could have been avoided.
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16 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:
Lulu needs to SHUT UP. God, she's insufferable.
It's interesting to see others' interpretations. I thought Brook Lynn and Lulu were both being insufferable and that Maxie should have either a) kicked them both out of her home or b) locked them in a room together.
2 hours ago, Sake614 said:They didn’t see each other at school. They didn’t see each other for years after she left camp. I doubt she would’ve been able to keep it a secret if she saw him every day.I distinctly remember that Brook Lynn said she went on tour with her mother and gave birth. When she went back to school that fall, it was like nothing ever happened between them. Dante was dating someone and she did the same.
1 hour ago, Daisy said:ishe didn't want to give Dante the same pain etc she had lived with forever. and respect what she had decided what was best for her kid - not knowing who the parents were.
BLQ's fear of that being a very big possibility so ultimately again I respect why she did what she did.
the way i look at it is this: Cody knew there was a baby when he dropped her off. He didn't think to go to Dante so Dante could like grab another bus and talk to her? He just assumed the baby was aborted? that's fair.it was hurting his wife something fierce.
the parents that adopted the kid and not wanting to disrupt the kids life.She said she had already made up her mind to give the baby up without telling anyone, including him. What her and her nitwit mother needed to not ignore is that any adoption would not be legal unless the biological father gave up his legal rights to the child. To avoid telling Dante the truth, no father was named and Gio's birth certificate was forged.
When Brook Lynn was giving her reason "didn't want Dante to live with the pain too" it sounded like that's what she told herself to avoid having to deal with blowback from him or consequences like him trying to find out what happened to the baby when she felt neither of them had the right to know once she made the decision for both of them. She knew he wouldn't respect that she had lied to him and betrayed their friendship.
Cody explained himself, that he was a stupid kid dealing with a very scared Brook Lynn who begged him to keep the secret. It's understandable that at the time he didn't want to upset Brook Lynn more.
Chase needs to believe this was a terrible heavy emotional burden for his wife. Otherwise, what does it say about her that in addition to other ugly scheming she's done including trying to rape Dante for money, all the while claiming to be his friend, she had his baby and gave the baby up then continued to lie to him for 22 years? In their not distant past, Brook Lynn lied to and stood in the way of Chase going back to the police career he loves because she wanted them focused on a music career together. Considering she did this to Dante, a good guy she's known her whole life, it's entirely possible she could betray Chase in a bigger way if she doesn't get what she wants. It baffles me that when he talks about how great Brook Lynn was with Bailey Lou, he totally glazes over the part that the Bailey Lou protection scheme started out with Brook Lynn wanting to use a baby to manipulate Valentin so she could fix her mistakes.
The last reason Brook Lynn gave isn't valid to me because as an adult she has to know that the way she and her mother went about handling things, is not a valid, legal adoption.
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9 hours ago, ciarra said:
So Dante is mad at Chase. Why does Cody get a free pass?
Why should Dante get a free pass for not bothering with BL after they had sex. I'll bet they had phones back then.
Cody told Dante that since he never heard anything about a baby after he dropped Brook Lynn off at the bus station, he assumed she terminated the pregnancy. So no point in telling him. Dante accepted that.
Whereas Chase has known for several months that Brook Lynn had Dante's baby and kept it a secret from him. I get why Dante feels betrayed by them.
Brook Lynn left camp abruptly and the whole reason they ended up having sex was she was upset from being homesick. A teenage boy is going to assume she left because she decided she wanted to go home. The next time they saw each other was at school that fall.
8 hours ago, Daisy said:and Cody knew a hell of a lot longer than chase. so... just sayin'.
He knew that Brook Lynn went home from camp pregnant. He thought she had an abortion until Lulu told him otherwise, the day before the Nurses Ball. That's different from Chase knowing Dante has a child walking around in the world somewhere and keeping silent because his wife doesn't want to own up to the fact she's been lying for a long time.
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2 hours ago, Daisy said:
but this is also the hilarious thing - Monica didn't unconditionally love/forgive Jason - she rightly read him for filith when Emily died and cut him out of her life for months (best few months of my life, but then they made Jason save her from the hit/run charge and she forgave him). She was also over AJ's darker tndencies for a good hot minute and I'm sure if Emily did something 'bad' (like really bad) she'd be all get out of my face too.
the fact that WikiDrew can remember all these trivial things but not that is weird (well it's not because the show but theoretically he should know that)I meant overall from Drew's perspective, Monica unconditionally loves Jason. She cut Jason out of her life temporarily over Emily getting murdered. She knows Jason has been loyal to Sonny despite being told Sonny murdered his brother (yes I know he told Gio that Sonny was 'protecting Ava', but he knows Sonny lies a lot and that Sonny hated A.J.) She lived through Jason helping Carly and Sonny keep little Michael away from the Quartermaines. Jason has gone back to working for Sonny since returning and has killed who knows how many people in the time he has been associated with Sonny.
I think that is why Drew keeps bringing up hypocrisy in the Quartermaine Family. Like hey Monica and the rest of you, Jason has done far worse than "falling in love" with someone he wasn't supposed, the rest of you have had affairs or worse, but I'm the bad guy who doesn't deserve to be a part of this family? Excuse me?
There's also an entitled air about Drew's behavior in that he genuinely seems to believe he deserves to have Willow, Wiley and Amelia as a family with Scout whereas the Quartermaines don't deserve to have them around after how Willow has been treated. He argued that the kids should not go back to the mansion for a visit with ill Grandma Monica because it would "confuse them" as to where their true home was now.
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1 hour ago, KerleyQ said:
I'm completely with you. We need some kind of explanation for how and why Drew went from the aw, shucks heroic good guy who loved his family to whatever the fuck this is. The story could have been good. Drew could have been conflicted about his growing feelings for Willow. The hookups with Nina after the first kiss with Willow could have been him trying to pull himself away, only to end up torn when he has genuine feelings for both of them.
just decided "fuck them all, let's bulldoze the dead Q's!" is just a bizarre choice without giving us any kind of insight into what the fuck is going on in his brain. We don't even know how he actually feels about Willow.
He seemed to start out conflicted (telling Nina it would never happen again with Willow, and they slept together), was much less conflicted after the second kiss, and then was all in when she came to "comfort" him in the kids' playroom over the loss of Sam. Drew is delusional as well. He insists he and Willow fell in love and won't even acknowledge the word "affair" even when Willow said it his face that they had done something wrong.
Drew seems to love the narrative that Willow fell in love with him and chose him over Michael. Not too long ago in his new house, he complained that Jason had the good life and threw it away but Monica still loves him/the family accepts him. He has also had lines - maybe with Tracy - indicating Monica has unconditional love for Jason and Michael whereas he was told to leave the Q mansion once his affair with Willow was exposed. Drew's attitude was all these Qs have done terrible things, and Jason is a killer, yet they all get to live here and I have to leave? Where's my unconditional love?
Drew broke up with Carly as soon as he heard Jason was alive and in the vicinity of Port Charles. I remembered that Sam divorced him (as played by BM) and got back together with Jason. It made me wonder, if it all comes down to wanting to hurt Jason because Sam chose him and Monica continues to love Jason.
The desire to bulldoze the dead Qs seems like revenge on the entire family, especially Tracy who told him what she thought of him and rubbed Monica's love for Jason, Michael and the kids in his face. Drew never had a personal relationship with Alan or his grandparents and he is aware of that, so they don't mean anything to him but he knows they mean a lot to Tracy.
32 minutes ago, Daisy said:so it made me feel that his end goal really was to try to get Willlow her kids [WHY?! we don't know]. but then when Nina was like. if you really loved Willow, you'd walk away and never look back. (which i think the advice was sound but how it was delivered was not, it really should have been real love is about sacrifice
but i'm with you i wanna know. WHY.A beautiful, much younger woman being "in love" with him is a huge ego trip and IMO taking Michael's wife and children away is the ultimate middle finger to Monica, Jason and Michael. Ironically, when Drew was willing to make a "sacrifice" it was for Carly - going to prison and leaving Scout so that Carly wouldn't be away from her youngest child.
As for today, I had to laugh at Maxie saying to Lulu of course she's still talking to her, that interfering where it wasn't her business and upending other people's lives used to be "my jam." Good for Maxie for telling Lulu she needs to take accountability for her part, for being insulted by Brook Lynn's assumption, and for telling them their attitude/behavior regarding each other is going to trickle down to their sons' relationship. Brook Lynn telling them she can be "willing to accept an apology from Lulu" for Dante and Gio's sake made her sound like Carly. Yes, Lulu, you are right you owe Gio an apology.
Drew talking to Martin was the first time in many months that Drew sounded like he was capable of decency. Jason v. Drew in their blue t-shirts was an interesting development, lol.
@GHScorpiosRule hope you enjoy Anna's reflection about how great Robert was as a dad and her past with Robert and wee Robin.
From the preview, I thought for a moment Anna had locked both Dante and Chase in a jail cell but I get it, she doesn't want them having it out in the middle of the police station.
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7 hours ago, Daisy said:
Im not saying that Willow didn't make bad decisions, but are we saying all of those decisions = not having at least partial custody? like seriously? and we're just ignoring that Michael's catastrophic injury happened with his Mob Father? so tired of this crap.
that's all i saw from clips so i don't know if there is more.There was more. What seemed particularly egregious to the judge was that Willow broke the law when she signed papers making Drew the children's guardian in the event of her death, without consulting Michael/ignoring his custodial rights as a father.
It wasn't about the cheating. Willow started screaming at the judge (right after she delivered her decision) that Michael cheated on her with Sasha and had a baby with him, completely ignoring the fact that she cheated on Michael and moved her kids into a new home with her lover.
5 hours ago, JMO said:Did I miss the judge saying the kids couldn't see Willow? Feels like a lot of assumptions being made.
The judge said visitation would be decided after the kids met with a psych professional. Willow thinks (thanks to Drew's manipulations and Michael's anger when she insisted Wiley misunderstood whatever he heard) that Michael getting custody means the children are going to be kept away from her, probably indefinitely.
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1 hour ago, Cheyanne11 said:
And I know I'm beating the same drum, but this is mainly him driving this bus. Willow's agency in all this is shaky, at best, as she is bending to everything Drew says. Every now and then there's a flicker of doubt in her eyes, but that quickly fades.
#TeamSendTheKidsToBoardingSchool
It's so odd, seeing him just sort of give a hard or maybe confused look in the direction of the other side of the courtroom while Nina holds sobbing Willow as she collapses. Is CM not even capable of a tear? Zero emotion from Drew in this episode. I was not expecting to hear the judge call her "negligent" and bring up her giving the kids to Drew in a legal document.
"Now that Lucky's out of the picture ..." This bitch almost killed Elizabeth, and now she wants to use her re: Ric to get out of the blackmail mess? I really hope Elizabeth takes daughter and mother down HARD. Poor Laura, missing her son and now trusting Alexis regarding Elizabeth and Martin.
When even Ric looks sad and humble meanwhile Drew just smirks at Nina yelling at him, you know it's really bad.
The only good part was Laura's very obvious love for and concern about Elizabeth and her kids.
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2 hours ago, TVbitch said:
I got the sense that JJ was saying goodbye for good today. He must have been steeling himself, cuz even I cried when Laura spontaneously let out that one gutteral sob. I think he's done.
As for Lucky, I still find it ridiculous that he gave his Luke-built lake property to his friend, instead of giving it to his son (or Rocco or Liz or Lulu). Liz looked upset today when she realized she didn't even know about it.
Did Lucky inherit a huge supply of cash from Luke that he can just travel the world all summer with his son?
This is what I was thinking and wondering; you've articulated it better than I did. It's well-documented that JJ considers GF and TG to be the great acting mentors of his childhood. When JJ delivered Lucky's "thank you" lines to Laura today, it looked like he, JJ, was feeling emotional and trying not to break down as himself, thanking GF for how she worked with him when he started on the Show as a child and for their working relationship together now as adults, as well as Genie's/Laura's blessing to move on.
Elizabeth has every right to be upset about hearing about the cabin from Isaiah and that Lucky never talked to her about giving it away. The deed should be held in the family, for Luke's grandchildren when they're older.
I also thought, there's no way he can afford to travel all summer from what he made at Charlie's from however many months he was working there. Did Luke leave him cash and not tell Tracy?
2 hours ago, Desperado said:GF had me in tears today, saying goodbye to JJ. Because that’s really what it was, beyond the characters. “We will love you, no matter where you go.” 😭😭 And the adorableness of baby Lucky and her kissing the pic. 😭😭
Absolutely. It looked like her forever goodbye to Lucky, and JJ. Both GF and Laura will truly miss him.
I feel for GF. The actors who have played her eldest son, her sister-in-law/long-time friend, and her mother are all deceased now and JJ is mostly likely never coming back.
28 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:and Genie, JJ, and. Becky gave it. And when Laura kissed wee Lucky’s picture, I was lost.
Ironically? Today was 7 months and 1 day when Lucky/JJ and Laura/Genie reunited in the chapel.
They really gave the sense of (final) closure for JJ and Lucky. If JJ returns, it will most likely be a cameo for either GF's retirement or BHerbst's.
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58 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:
I know I'm in the minority as to JJ and Lucky here, but at least elsewhere on social media, everyone thinks as I do: Frank is a DUMBASSPIECE of 💩💩💩💩💩along with the "writers" and wasted the talent that is JJ.
I hate that JJ's latest run is over and I agree that there were numerous missed opportunities because a lot of time got wasted on too many poker scenes with Sidwell and being a supporting player in the Kristina has lost her mind saga.
However, I'm grateful he came back for 9 months because everything having to do with his Spencer family in Port Charles was unresolved when Lucky left in December 2011 and when Lucky came back for just days to return Jake/have final scenes with Luke. The Lucky character had very minimal interaction with Laura when GV was in the role and then Lucky got to say just a few words and hug her when JJ came back for TG's retirement storyline. I felt like Laura and Lucky finally got to have a brief but meaningful mother-son relationship as well as closure regarding Luke, for the first time since JJ and GF's last scene prior to the fire that "killed" young Lucky.
Elizabeth and Lucky got to express their love and bittersweetly say good bye because Elizabeth felt it was the right thing to do. As opposed to when JJ's Lucky returned while Elizabeth was in the middle of an awful storyline and then fled without a glance back at his kids because he couldn't deal with the pain of being around Elizabeth and also Luke's role in Jake's "death."
Lucky had a decent-ish good-bye scene with Lulu too and is spending the summer traveling with Aiden. Father and son both looked excited. It seems like the best scenario at this moment considering that the Show and JJ parted ways abruptly well before JJ had intended. It's very disappointing that Lucky never got to have family scenes with Lulu and her kids, re-establish his old friendship with Dante, re-connect with Mac, hold/interact with nephew Ace and his stepfather Kevin, etc. but ... it is what it is.
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I'm sure you're happy @GHScorpiosRule that Lucky and Laura had a complete good-bye scene. I thought I saw real regret and sadness in JJ/Lucky's eyes over his final scene with GF. It seemed like the tears were as much GF's as they were Laura's and that JJ was trying to hold back tears as they embraced.
Isaiah was much nicer to Portia than she deserved. What a bitch.
Lucky and Aiden at the airport together with the Luke/Amsterdam mention and then Lucky and Elizabeth's final kiss - like Lucky was struggling to let go/say good-bye -tugged at my heart strings.
I laughed at Jason in tears at the likelihood of adult Michael going on the run indefinitely with his kids, and then at Carly screeching and crying at Jason and Sonny to talk him out of it. I really thought she was going to howl, "don't you dare let my baby go!! I can't live without unlimited access to my son and my grandchildren!!"
CW did a good job of looking like Nina wanted to tie down and throat punch Drew a million times over what he did to Wiley.
Hey, did Lucky give Kristina two weeks notice? I'll laugh if it turns out he quit by text.
Laura tearfully kissing Lucky's childhood photo = sob!!
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3 hours ago, jsbt said:
The commute is the polite excuse. They canned him.
How do you know this for sure?
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3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:
Did he and Maxie even have any scenes together? Mac? Felicia? Tracy?
Sort of, no, yes, and no.
Lucky got up and spoke at Sam's funeral; Maxie was sitting in one of the pews after she planned or at least helped the Davis coven plan the funeral.
Lucky has not been in any scenes with Mac.
Lucky and Elizabeth questioned Felicia about Cyrus regarding the night Dex was stabbed.
Tracy and Lucky never so much as acknowledged each other's existence during JJ's nine months on the Show. Unless Tracy and Laura spoke of Lucky and I missed it. Tracy has only ever cared about Lulu to the best of my memory.
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5 minutes ago, Perkie said:
He had the goodbye scene with her. Does that count? Eh, he barely had any scenes with Liz and they were supposedly in a heavy duty relationship that caused him to propose to her.
I meant even a single scene of Lucky with Lulu and her son or both kids, or Uncle Lucky, Laura, Lulu and the two kids while they were all together in Laura's home. I hate that he had a couple of scenes with Josslyn, but not a single conversation with Rocco and /or Charlotte. I don't consider Rocco running out of the room upon overhearing Uncle Lucky saying he can't be Lulu's donor, to be a real uncle-nephew scene.
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6 minutes ago, statsgirl said:
I was in Catholic school in the 60s and no one I knew except the nuns thought that way about abortion (if they even did). It's as much a stereotype as Olivia's ziti.
I don't consider it to be a stereotype (well maybe of Bensonhurst, but not of Catholics.) For example, I used to be friends with a woman, now in her late 50s, who absolutely thought this way and so did her family. Another example is I have an aunt through marriage (she recently turned 70) who grew up as a conservative Catholic and is very anti-abortion. She got pregnant as a teenager and was very determined to have the baby and raise him (which she did; he's my cousin's elder half-brother and they are close).
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The best moments of today's episode IMO were:
-Martin's face when he and Laura spoke briefly of Lulu. I LOLed that he looked like he had tasted something disgusting.
-Tracy's reactions to Brook Lynn describing her. Tracy had all the best lines of the day to Brook Lynn. JE is such a gem!!
- Laura saw Lucky's face and heard the word "disappoint" and knew - because she knows her son.
I wonder if JJ's direction for the Isaiah good-bye scenes were "lean as hard as you can into being Luke Spencer without actually breaking any bones." Um Lucky, did you even consider asking your nephew/Luke's other grandson if he wanted the cabin? I hate that Lucky never had a single scene with (conscious) Lulu, Rocco and Charlotte. Or with either of his step parents.
Cody and Molly are getting closer, yet he was totally cool with the (mistaken) idea of seducing her mother?! And he is willing to see if her dad's lover is seduce-able? Ewwwww!!!
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Episode Discussion II: The TFGH
in General Hospital
I assumed Michael doesn't know how to use a condom properly (or at all?). All three of his children were oops pregnancies. He and Nelle were no longer together but it wasn't like they had just broken up in the last two weeks, when she announced she was pregnant (with Wiley). I rolled my eyes about his disdain for her, because it's not like he lacked enthusiasm about dating her when they got together. Years later, he was genuinely stunned when Willow told him she was pregnant (with Amelia). They were all, 'Yeah we didn't intend/plan this, I guess we weren't careful." Michael and Sasha were so drunk when they had sex, who knows if they even thought for a moment about protection/birth control before Daisy was conceived.
I also still remember when he believed he was the father of a previous girlfriend's baby, but eventually she admitted that she had sex with her ex-boyfriend and the baby was conceived before the first time she and Michael were together.