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I'm pretty sure we heard Salem purr at one point, which was nice. If they could just do a picture-in-picture and show us a cat cam all the time, I'd enjoy this show more.
I respect that the Uninvited held a grudge for literally the whole history of the universe because some random people were mean to them once. I do feel like it's kind of entrapment to try to bait people into rejecting you just so you can be mad at them when they do, but also I've done that before, so touché.
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So, the whole point was that they needed two Sabrinas because one Sabrina couldn't do it alone. But then the first thing they try, once they have two Sabrinas, is sending one Sabrina alone. Okay.
My main thing, though, is that girl who came to tell Zelda there was a monster in the dormitory, and then led her back to the dormitory, and then got back into bed while the monster was still standing there. On the one hand, that was weird AF. On the other hand, I respect the hustle of a person who really likes sleep.
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4 hours ago, loki310 said:
I have a strange problem. My husband and I started watching this show on On Demand... episode 1. A couple of minutes goes by Hugh Grant is having sex with this short haired woman, takes his curly haired son on a high speed police chase, and Nicole Kidman yells at him on a bridge...he kills the short haired woman. super intense. Through it all, I’m like - is this the first episode? This feels like we were dropped in the middle of something - are you sure it’s the first episode. He shows me that it’s indeed the first episode according to On Demand. About 15 min in, it fades to black and the credits roll. Whaaaaa?
Did On Demand screw me by showing me the ending of a 6 episode series in the 1st episode?? 😡 I don’t want to read through the thread and spoil myself haha if that’s even possible now.
It sounds like you're describing the last episode, yeah. Maybe On Demand somehow thought you were half way through watching episode 6? It's weird.
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2 hours ago, dmc said:
He's literary got every single attribute of a sociopath.
I still don't see that, but we can agree to disagree. He was an awful person, either way.
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8 hours ago, dmc said:
Not always. I think their portrayal of Jonathan is accurate. Accurate enough, that I double majored in Criminology and knew. I agree some elements of the story are poor. But it is incredibly accurate that Grace could be a psychiatrist and miss it. A lot of people want to believe they would see signs but it’s not true. A lot of con artist are also sociopaths it’s why they are usually successful at it
I buy that he had Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I think they portrayed that well -- in virtually every scene he's in, he's only focused on himself and on getting what he wants or needs, with no consideration for how it affects anyone else. Even at the end, when he decides to kill himself, he does it in the way that's going to be maximally traumatizing for his son, and tries to coax his son into comforting him while he does it.
I'm not 100% on him being a sociopath, and I kind of wish the show wasn't framing it as if proving Jonathan's mental health diagnosis is the same thing as proving that he killed someone. I actually think it's more interesting if he just has NPD -- if he committed an impulsive murder and then believed he should be able to get away with it, without needing to be a sociopath.
But I don't think the show is really interested in those distinctions.
1 hour ago, CarpeFelis said:What really bugs me is that he knew all along that Jonathan did it and he even tried to cover for him by running the hammer through the dishwasher twice, and yet he was pushing so hard all along for his parents to stay together! That would have made much more sense if he’d truly believed Jonathan was innocent.
I also thought that was weird, given the overall tone of the story. In real life, there are people who have a spouse or parent who's gone to prison for murder, and that's a really complex thing to deal with. But this show is a thriller, and it's made very clear to us that whoever did this is a monster, so, if everyone believes Jonathan did it... why do they want to keep living with him?
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You don't have to be a lawyer to know that putting Grace on the stand will torpedo your case. Literally all you have to do is listen to her try to answer a question.
The trial part of the episode felt less like a clever twist to me and more like an annoying scene that got a little less annoying when I realized Grace was making mistakes on purpose, and the prosecutor literally had no time to prepare after getting new information. But I hated how the entire trial seemed structured around making sure that Grace had an Insight about her marriage rather than proving whether Jonathan did a crime. Like, I get why the show wants that, but not why the characters do.
I liked the car chase part and it made me wish that this show had just been like, "Jonathan did it," in the first episode, and then dramatized how everyone reacted to that fact while they were simultaneously trying to fight the charges.
I also feel like there was such a contrast drawn between the rich family and the poor family / the white family and the latinx family, with the second family just getting kicked while they were down the whole time while the first family tried to get away with murder... and then nothing really came of that, and we don't even know how they are. Like, the show literally ends before Elena's murderer is found guilty.
1 hour ago, Black Knight said:I did find the ending somewhat OTT silly - especially with Grace and her moneybags father following via helicopter (wouldn't the police have serious issues with that?) - and I kinda wish they had let Jonathan fling himself off the bridge, but okay.
At first, I thought they were in the police helicopter, and I was like "Why???" and then I was like, "Whoa, does her dad have his own helicopter for this helicopter chase??" Rich people really are different.
1 hour ago, LilaFowler said:Was Haley unaware of the 911 call? That alone would have been a reason to keep her off the stand. I am not smart enough to comprehend why whatever Jonathan's mother said to Grace on a skype call didn't qualify as hearsay.
It seemed like there were a few things that came up during the testimony this episode where it should be information that had already been discussed at some point. Like, are we to believe that, if Grace hadn't taken the stand, the prosecution never would have played that 911 call?
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2 hours ago, Ashforth said:
The actress who plays Elena is 25. I think that she has been exploited by this show because she was willing to do nudity. That's been pretty much the sole development of Elena's character. She was nekkid! I expect nothing more from David E. Kelley. To borrow a line from Fernando, he is vile.
Same. I was willing to go with it during the first episode, when I thought Elena would become more of a character, but currently her only traits are being naked and being dead, and I don't love that for the actor. I'm kind of disappointed that Nicole Kidman produced this and let that happen.
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LMAO. Last week, I sarcastically said I thought the TV interview would end right when Jonathan said he thought he knew who the murderer was, with no further questions or follow-up. And apparently that's what happened. I hate all of the characters so much.
On 11/22/2020 at 10:10 PM, Chaos Theory said:I continue to really enjoy this show. I am kinda sorry it will be over next week. The defense lawyer lady was really good tearing apart the prosecution’s case. I thought her scenes with the Detectuve were really well done.
I enjoy the defense lawyer lady as well, and I think it's clear that the show is most interested in the court room stuff -- which kind of makes sense for David E Kelley. What they're doing and saying still doesn't super make sense, but it's dramatized in a more interesting way.
23 hours ago, Ashforth said:So the "dog story" that sounded like a total fiction made up on the spot when Grace told it to Henry was true - except the dog was Jonathan's 4 year old sister. Jonathan has a meltdown at a fancy restaurant to confess the sister story to Grace. Jonathan's mother tells Grace that he is a sociopath.
Even taking the dog story at face value, when Jonathan said it was really about his sister, my first question was, "How do you get from that to 'we can't get a dog because I killed mine'?" Like, there's something perverse about twisting the story that way, even if it were true.
For the sociopath thing... as much as I hate Jonathan, and as much as I think he could be a sociopath, "He didn't grieve in the exact way we expected him to grieve," isn't the strongest evidence.
23 hours ago, Mackey said:Franklin should have said “psychopathic” rather than “psychotic.” I’m trying to decide if this was clever writing or poor writing. Yes, people confuse these terms often (clever writing) but Grace is a psychologist and one might think that her dad would have picked up a few things over dinner and also he’s well educated (poor writing.)
I vote poor writing. Like, unless they're playing 4D chess and trying to tell us that Grace is psychotic and that's why she's so zoned out and nothing around her makes sense.
The problem is that, even if he meant to say "psychopathic" the question still wouldn't make sense since having that type of traumatic event wouldn't turn you into a psychopath, as far as I know.
22 hours ago, Razzberry said:If you haven't spoken to daughter-in-law for 10 years, maybe correcting her grammar isn't the best way to start off.
It was an effective way to show us that she's difficult, but I don't love this trope where men become murderers because they have overbearing mothers.
1 hour ago, DiabLOL said:They seem rather poor. YET she has a separate work space? In Manhattan? I don't care if it's in a bad neighborhood or whatever it's still Manhattan. How? Also no working artist is going to rent an actual apartment. It wouldn't give you the space you need (to make sculptures that require that murder hammer). It would be very very unusual for an artist to rent an apartment to work in. An artist who wanted to work in a space separate from their home would rent an actual art studio. Even then I'd be questioning how she's affording this and why.
Same. I reared back when they described the studio as a second apartment. Partly because it's so expensive and partly because it's so impractical.
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I strongly disliked the scene where they tried to meme by having Donald Sutherland call himself a cocksucker twice. His explanation didn't even make sense. It was just like, "I don't mean it in the sense of being gay, I mean it in the sense of being a person you really don't like who you might call gay as an insult, because it's 1970 and you're not woke to homophobia." Okay.
20 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:Jonathan is so narcissistic he thinks as long as he can talk to someone, explain his side, people will find him a sympathetic character. Just like, he can walk right into Mr.Alvez’s apartment like that, say a few things, act concerned and approach Miguel like nothing has changed.
I liked that the lawyer called that out, though she didn't go far enough -- it's classic narcissism, like we saw with him last week. Believing that what he wants is so important that he can just convince everyone else to get on board with it, no matter what the circumstance. I grow more suspicious of Jonathan each week.
19 hours ago, Ashforth said:I thought it was odd that Fernando let Jonathan into the apartment, but very real and touching when he admitted that he has tried but doesn't love baby Teresa. It actually made sense to me that he asked Jonathan if he wanted to feed her. I thought it was to evaluate whether he might trust Jonathan with her. I kind of wanted him to agree to allow Jonathan to take her, if even as a test period.
That scene was super weird. From Fernando's POV, if he's not the murderer and he believes Jonathan is, why would he ever let Jonathan near his wife's baby? His son's sister? That's nuts.
18 hours ago, ReviewX said:The next scene is in the hospital. Henry and her dad show up and then Jonathan. She says she passed out from shock and is being discharged. Jonathan takes out his penlight and checks her vision and some other things and says she's fine and they hold hands meaningfully. Dad looks annoyed. The next scene is the chess game.
I kind of thought that maybe Jonathan poisoned her or something, so that he could make a big show of being a doctor and impress upon everyone how much they need him, but then he wasn't there when she got sick, so he had to run to the hospital and force the scene to happen anyway. And that thought made me laugh.
8 hours ago, DoubleUTeeEff said:Annoying cliffhanger at the end there. I'll speculate that Jonathan is going to say that Elena had another lover and that's who might have killed her.
Based on the way cliffhangers have gone, and the way people answer questions on this show, I speculate that he says nothing. They just ask him if he knows who the murderer is and he says "Yes, I do," and that's literally the end of the interview. It's just awkward looks from there.
8 hours ago, DoubleUTeeEff said:Odd how the other attorney has a such a strong gut feeling that Jonathan is innocent. Did Jonathan also charm him in some way or is he right?
I don't actually remember, but the last time that guy was here, I thought his gut instinct was that Jonathan was guilty?
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I think the funniest part was the last scene, where Grace told the police it was hypocritical of them to ask her questions about the murder they're investigating. And then they were just like, "Here's a video of you at the crime scene."
Does make me wonder why they moved so fast on arresting Jonathan if they think Grace is in on it, too.
On 11/9/2020 at 12:48 PM, kay1864 said:Why was Elena so flirtatious with Grace? At the auction-planning meeting, I didn’t get the vibe that she was flaunting the baby, but rather a sexual come-on, similar to the elevator, or even the locker room.
I'm confused about that, too. When I learned that the baby was Jonathan's, I re-read Elena's behaviour as more hostile and sarcastic. I just don't know what she was trying to achieve with that. (Also, I don't love that they seemingly brought that actress in just to do frontal nudity and die in episode one).
22 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:I rolled my eyes when Elena's husband asked if they could talk and then she later told the police that he had been stalking her. Pot, kettle. And what a waste of an opportunity for them to have a conversation. Instead of actually talking to him, all she wanted to know was if Elena had slept with anyone else. Okay then.
That whole scene was weird to me. He wanted to talk to her, and they took the trouble to go somewhere where they could have a private conversation, and then the only thing he seemed to want to say was, "You guys suck." I agree with him, but it seemed like a strange, pointless interaction.
22 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:I loved that Jonathan's old boss confirmed that Jonathan was the one pursuing her and not even trying to be subtle about it in front of anyone else. What a surprise. Also not a surprise that he loved being the hero, being the center of attention, was a total narcissist, etc.
I thought that was the most interesting part of the episode -- the suggestion that his prosocial behaviour actually had self-centered motivations.
9 hours ago, Haleth said:I normally don't pay attention to opening credits but I did notice the blood in at least one quick shot. (I think there were some curtains that had blood too?) It seems something bad happened in Grace's past, maybe to her mother? This leads to the suggestion that maybe Grace is mimicking something she saw as a child?
I also noticed creepy stuff in the credits -- not sure if they're changing each week or if I just didn't watch before. It seemed like the little girl was pretending to wear a wedding veil at one point, so I thought maybe it was a metaphor for how her marriage seemed innocent and perfect and then it turned out there was something sinister underneath.
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16 hours ago, Mellowyellow said:
Hugh Grant plays a very charming scumbag. Great casting choice. Jonathan is without a doubt a complete scumbag however HG is able to convey why people would fall for this scumbag.
In the first episode, when he was being all cute with his son, I thought, "Look at Hugh Grant, breaking out of the mold where he plays a handsome jerk," and then, you know...
7 hours ago, buttersister said:My only thought about Donald Sutherland is that with Nicole and Hugh, they needed another big name for a major character. Why major? We'll see, I guess. He does like to look around like he's thinking about something!
Can I just say that I appreciate the energy Donald Sutherland brought to those scenes -- like he was just kind of tired and exasperated with Grace's need to turn everything into a riddle? I felt that.
On a more serious note, it brought to mind the dynamic she had with her lady patient last week, where she was just like, "OMG, you always repeat this pattern with men, and every time it's the same story." Makes me wonder if Grace also has a pattern of ending up with guys like Jonathan.
2 hours ago, txhorns79 said:And seriously, unless you are being arrested, do not go off with the police back to the station. I don't believe for a moment that someone of Grace's social class or educational level would ever have gone off with the police without a lawyer.
See, this is what bugs me. I can believe that a reasonable person -- especially a wealthy person, who's generally had positive experiences with the police -- would talk to the police without a lawyer, if that person believed they had nothing to fear and nothing to hide, and they intended to be completely transparent and tell the truth. But Grace is the opposite of that -- she seems to think she does have something to hide, and she's never transparent with anyone. If her plan going in is to be super defensive, why do that alone?
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This show frustrates me so much. Grace makes every conversation she has needlessly mysterious and confusing, and then the detectives do a bunch of stuff that's not going to help them solve the crime.
I think the most frustrating part was the interrogation scene, where they were like, "Did you know your husband was fired?" and she says no, and then they're like, "Do you know why he was fired?" and she says no, and then they're like, "Do you know which specific patient he touched when he got fired?" and WTF do you think the answer will be at that point? Like, whether she's lying or not, she's denied any knowledge of the situation, so she's going to keep denying any knowledge of the details. Asking more and more specific questions about a topic someone has already said they don't know anything about is not a great technique.
On top of that, they revealed that they believed Jonathan was in her apartment so... why wasn't their first move to go to the apartment? Why did they lead into it by warning her that that was what they were working up to?
That's also the scene where I put my finger on what I don't like about the dialogue -- the characters are all acting like they already know they're in a thriller. The detective's acting like he knows his only purpose in life is to give exposition. Grace is acting like she knows her husband's a murder suspect before anyone has accused him. Even the news reporters frame the murder in the way that's most personally relevant to Grace instead of framing it in a way that would be relevant to their general viewers. It's just so weird.
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Binged it over the past few days.
I thought it was fun, but I guess my main issue is that I don't see what about it makes it "Nurse Ratched" instead of an original character. And I think I would have been more forgiving of it if it had been an original character, and I wasn't constantly trying to reconcile it somehow with One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I know they've teased the possibility that the show could catch up to the movie, if it goes on long enough, but I honestly think this works better as a completely separate universe that's responding to some of the same themes but has no plot overlap.
Otherwise, the puppet show as horrifying and, IMO, a good way of capturing how viscerally disturbing the situation was without graphically depicting child abuse. I found Ratched less disgusting and off-putting than AHS, but I also wasn't expecting it to be as graphic as it was and, if I didn't understand how this fits into Ryan Murphy's body of work, I'd be really confused about why it needed to be that way.
Nurse Bucket was my favourite.
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LMAO, the end of The 100 is that everyone gets raptured except Clarke.
I liked seeing Lexa and Abby come back, and I liked that Lexa did a callback to the whole blood demands blood thing, which I had forgotten about, but which was a nice illustration of how Clarke has changed for the worse.
I thought it was kind of cheap that the aliens were like, "Never mind, you can transcend" after only a moderate number of people died, and that all of the main characters decided to come die on Earth with Clarke so she wouldn't be alone. It would have made more sense to me if it was one person who really loved her but, other than Madi, everyone who really loved her was already dead. Of the people who are left, I guess it might have made sense for Raven or Octavia to come back for her. But not everyone.
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On 9/25/2020 at 9:33 AM, Lady Calypso said:
And then they also decide to leave her alive once they hear that Cadogan has the key? It's just a convenient way to stall for time for them to save Madi and nothing else. It just shows that Madi will find her way back and be fine in the final episode.
One of the things I like about this show is that it usually swerves somehow in the season finale, and the characters end up in a horrible situation where their plans get destroyed and everyone dies. So, I'm hoping I get surprised. But right now I feel like the most obvious outcome is that Clarke takes the test on behalf of humanity, and the aliens like her so much that they heal Madi. Or, Clarke being Clarke, she threatens to kill all the aliens if they don't heal Madi.
15 hours ago, ottoDbusdriver said:And who exactly buried the stone under the concrete floor ? No one was left behind when Cadogan and his followers left Earth. Or did the stone bury itself. Because the stone was moved from its last known position AND buried.
There was an Ice Nation symbol on the floor above it, so I guess Ice Nation had control of the bunker at some point in the past? Maybe that's one of the secrets we could learn in the spinoff series no one wants to watch.
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The thought of someone having to kill their own kid because they got there too late to rescue them is horrible enough that I cried, but I felt manipulated into it. Especially when they just suddenly decided not to kill her and instead leave her alone where she was. I also don't understand why they changed their minds -- I thought they were going to kill her because she's catatonic and there's no way to reverse it, but I guess it had something to do with the code in her head?
Also confusing: how did Octavia's boyfrined know that opening the bridge would bring people across? He didn't know two of them randomly ate Sheidy's pills. And those were the only two who got grabbed, so... what was his plan if no one ate the pills?
ALSO, there are too many convoluted ways to use the bridge, now. I don't get it.
23 hours ago, thuganomics85 said:Speaking of which, not sure what to make of Emori saying she loves Raven as well. Did she mean that in a romantic way? Because she sincerely seems to love Murphy as well. Does she love them both and we're going for some kind of poly relationship here with those three? Kind of confused about that.
I think she meant it in the way people love their close friends. Ring-cru is one of the things that legitimately warms my heart on this show -- thought I notice only Emori cared that Echo was MIA.
I do have a weird feeling that the writers are kind of keeping Raven in the wings of this relationship, and that, if either Murphy or Emori dies by the end of this, she'll end up with whoever's left.
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Everyone stands around and tells us they don't care that Bellamy's dead, and then they tell us he died because he wanted the plot to make sense too much, and then Clarke's like, "All the main characters are here, and no one else matters," and then "He stabbed himself and then he disappeared!"
This episode was confusing, and I felt like the editing was putting stuff in a different order than it was originally intended. There was just something weird about the way people kept changing locations. Also, I was expecting it to turn into a Gaia flashback, and it didn't, so I wonder if they originally had more content about what happened after she came to the bunker that got moved or cut.
7 hours ago, dippydee said:Lol! I couldn’t believe how dumb they were being. Especially trained fighters like Indra and Gaia who really should have more sense. ... And of course Sheidheda gets away from them once more. The worst part of all this is it’s making Indra who is normally the most awesome person in the room look incredibly dumb. How many times has she let Sheidheda go now? Jeez woman take the shot!
At first, I thought, "Oh, this is why that had that annoying scene earlier where Indra challenges Sheidheda and loses. Now, she's going to fight him again with her daughter, and the two of them will win, and he'll be dead, and it'll heal their family," but no. He stabs himself and disappears.
Follow-up question about Sheidheda: Did Russell have a tribal-looking shoulder tattoo or did Sheidy prioritize getting one along with building a skull throne?
4 hours ago, AudienceofOne said:"I killed Bellamy over a book - and then left a book. I'm sorry if you, his sister and his girlfriend, now hate me"
That was also a really funny moment. Though, I guess Octavia kind of has to forgive everyone for everything, since she spent six years tyrannically murdering people in a bunker. It also explained why they had that clunky dialogue earlier where Octavia says that she understands how Clarke feels about Madi now that she helped raise Hope.
36 minutes ago, KittenPokerCheater said:Wait....why does Madi know things that Sheheda does not? He lived in her head...and so doesn't he know everything she does?
That's a good question, actually, and one that I didn't think to ask. The whole reason Sheidy was in Madi's head is because he used to be the Commander, so I don't know why he wouldn't know whatever the Commanders are supposed to know. Maybe it's unusual that Madi remembers stuff? Because Clarke also had the chip in her head at one point and doesn't seem to remember stuff. I don't really get how it works.
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Wow, everyone was so merciful except for Clarke.
On 9/9/2020 at 10:22 PM, thuganomics85 said:Wait, is that really it for Bellamy? If so, that might be one of the most anticlimactic exists for a character that is suppose to be very important. I mean, it is certainly possible that they would find some way to bring him back down the line, but since I did hear there was some behind the scenes drama between Bob Morley and the show-runner, I wouldn't be surprised if this was some kind of "Fuck you" from the latter.
When I was young, Terry Farrell got into a fight with the producers of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, and then her character got murdered, and then there was a musical montage where all of the other characters thought about their favorite memories, and she wasn't included in any of them. This feels kind of like that.
On 9/9/2020 at 10:22 PM, thuganomics85 said:A hallucinating Gabriel somehow ends up being more intelligent and effective than a lot of other characters, which is really saying something.
I 100% buy that Gabriel is the kind of person who decides he's the one who should take a test on behalf of humanity -- that felt spot-on to me. I don't remember if everyone hallucinated last time the sun came out?
23 hours ago, ParadoxLost said:They have ripped off so much stuff from Stargate SG1 at this point, I'm more or less resigned to the idea that this will end with Clarke making some big sacrifice that results in her ascending as a being of light and then saying goodbye to Murphy, Emori, Madi, Raven, Octavia, Echo, etc.
You saying that makes me realize that ultimately Clarke will be the one who takes this test on behalf of humanity, and her righteousness will save us all.
22 hours ago, wrongheaven said:She didn’t have to kill him and she wound up leaving the notebook behind with the last disciple anyway. What was the point of any of it?
Yeah, I noticed that, too. I thought maybe she grabbed it when I wasn't paying attention, but it sounds like she didn't. The entire point of killing Bellamy is to stop people from finding out that Maddi knows stuff, so... having a protracted argument about it in front of multiple witnesses and then leaving the book behind anyway seems like a bad call.
13 hours ago, dippydee said:I’m only here to see this show through to end for my precious Raven who needs her happy end after the sheer volume of torture she’s suffered over the last 7 seasons (it’s not a complete season of the 100 if Raven hasn’t been tortured at least once).
I thought it was funny when they went to the reactor and we immediately get a shot of Clarke being happy to see Maddi, a shot of Murphy being happy to see Emori, and then a shot of Raven in her own private hell, assaulted by memories of killing that one convict. As much as we joke about it, it sucks that she literally never has anything good happen to her, and I too would like it if that changed.
13 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:Finally, I was hoping for some fun red sun eclipse drama. All we got was Gabriel bantering with a dressed up Josephine and Indra seeing her mother. Otherwise, it felt like a normal night for the group. Not even Cadogan went crazy from the Red Sun.
It would have been a better death scene if Bellamy had been under the effects of the Red Sun, to be honest. Have him physically trying to kill Madi or something. A lot would have been better than what we actually got, and would have made more sense.
Yeah, at first I was like "Oh, that's cool. They remembered that the sun makes people kill their friends; and also that's a nice metaphor for the way the characters are betraying each other. I bet something really interesting will happen." And then, it's like the sun makes you hallucinate but not necessarily kill people, and you can resist it if you're used to it, and there's an antidote that pretty much everyone gets in a timely way, and it doesn't really tie in to what's happening with Clarke and Bellamy and it's like, why bring back the murder sun at all?
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I've never had my opinion about an episode change so much as I was watching it. I hated it at first, and then I loved it. I think it was a really, really smart way to end the series, by giving us a sense of resolution and closure, but without committing to any one interpretation of how the characters should feel, and still acknowledging that, in real life, you usually don't get anything at all.
I respect Michaela Coel so much for what she was able to do with this series.
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Fun fact: I legitimately don't remember where the flame is. Since they mentioned Gaia for the first time in weeks, I'm guessing she has it.
If the flashbacks are done now, and the story just moves forward from here, I might forgive how slow it was to get going. Except now you guys are saying we have to wait until September, so... this is really getting drawn out.
I also want to have a conversation about that skull chair Sheidheda got. There seemed to be a very fast turnaround time on it, and I'm wondering if he specifically asked them to make a chair from all the skulls, or if they were just like, "I bet this would make him happy." Do all the commanders have a skull chair? Do I just not remember it?
On 8/19/2020 at 10:23 PM, thuganomics85 said:Granted, he's now Sheidheda's prisoner and it looks like he is tasked to spend his days playing chess with him, but hopefully Clarke's sudden return to Sanctum will cause Sheidheda to take his eye off of him for now!
I loved how lazy the show was about explaining, in one line of dialogue, that Murphy and Emori, who are clearly two of the most dangerous people to keep alive, were spared because they volunteered to monitor the power supply and play chess.
On 8/19/2020 at 10:23 PM, thuganomics85 said:Hey, I actually have a positive moment for Bill! I was amused by his dismissive "I guess my daughter killed my son" line. I guess when you're a self-proclaimed savior in a future far away from your loved ones, there is no point in getting upset about the frivolous things!
I also enjoyed that comment, because it seemed like such a transparent attempt to get us interested in the spin-off. Like, "Wow, I assume my daughter killed my son, but who can know for sure what happened? If only there were a way to watch those events play out and learn the real story."
On 8/20/2020 at 9:21 AM, Lady Calypso said:I just don't think she bought your little "I was buddy-buddy with your husband....but I'll totally threaten you with putting you in the place where he died...but we can have drinks later!"
Yeah, that was weird. The last thing The Good Criminal told Murphy was that his girlfriend was a total psychopath who didn't care about anyone and killed people for fun, so I'm not sure how this little speech was meant to change that? I felt like he was trying to shame her into being a nicer person by pointing out that her partner probably wouldn't support what she's doing, but it sounds like that never stopped her before.
On 8/20/2020 at 9:21 AM, Lady Calypso said:But even Clarke deserves better than Weak Minded Bellamy, who is willing to TORTURE HIS FRIENDS. I don't give two flying shits if he 'feels bad' or if Clarke can stop the pain if she gives in. HE'S STILL TORTURING THEM. Why would I EVER root for Clarke to get together with someone who tortures her?
Also, Raven was once again the first person fed to the torture machines, and I'm sure she appreciates holding out just so Clarke could make a deal and give up the flame to them anyway.
I want Clarke to get back together with that grounder chick whose name I don't remember, who was tagging along on this trip. I want Echo to get together with literally anybody else besides Bellamy. I want Bellamy and Octavia to go feel like monsters together on one of these mystery planets.
On 8/20/2020 at 9:21 AM, Lady Calypso said:So, I wonder where Cadogan sent everyone. Maybe Earth? At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised. If he sent them to Sky Ring, they're already dead by the beginning of the next episode. If he sent them to Nakara, then they're not exactly safe. If he sent them to Etherea, then he's attempting to brainwash them and they're still not safe. And if they're not on Sanctum, then we're running out of options.
Apparently I'm the only person who would be mistrustful of jumping into a portal. I couldn't believe everyone just went along with that.
It would be funny if he just had a separate sphere that led into a dungeon.
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See? You let the Bardos live, you get another flashback. I hope Diyoza's ghost is proud of itself.
(Also, I thought the color grading in this one was kind of unusually good? And it was unusually easy to see what was happening in dark scenes?)
19 hours ago, ParadoxLost said:Had they done the whole episode the same to reveal that the leap of faith ended up with him in the mind probe chair with some elements that made him believe he was saving Clarke, Octavia, and Echo by betraying that she didn't have the flame in her head then I would have gone along. Probably. Maybe.
I think that could have worked. I also think it could have worked to just tell the story in chronological order and check in with Bellamy climbing the mountain a little bit each episode so it felt like it took a really long time and was a big event for the character, rather than something that went by all in a rush. Same with a lot of the other flashbacks.
On paper, it probably looks good to pack all of these stories into individual episodes, but as I watch it, I feel no suspense or investment in what's happening. It's just exposition.
19 hours ago, quarks said:I would have bought this, completely, if Bellamy's new found semi-faith in Cadogan had led him to go along with the mind-probing, assuming that the mind-probing would only be about the recent trip and/or his new faith in Cadogan - with the mind-probing then revealing to Cadogan and everyone else that WHOOPS CLARKE DOESN'T HAVE THE FLAME AFTER ALL and in fact the Flame is no longer with us...
I also think that could have worked -- or any circumstance where someone just asked Bellamy a question and he accidentally outed Clarke's lie without necessarily knowing he was doing it, or betraying anyone on purpose. Like, I don't know what the point is of having it be a betrayal. I don't seriously believe he's going to stay on the opposite side from everyone else.
18 hours ago, ParadoxLost said:Or am I totally missing something. My memory of prior seasons is kind of crappy. And there were a ton of episodes that explained the flame that I wasn't particularly interested in.
I don't think I ever totally understood what they wanted it for. At one point, I thought they wanted Becca's memories to solve the sphere puzzle? But it seems like Monty Jr. can solve it by speaking Korean, so...
Also I don't remember why anyone wants to solve the sphere puzzle anymore. Are they trying to fight the aliens?
9 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:I was convinced that Bellamy would find poor missing Gaia on Etherea so I'm disappointed that we got him making a bromance with this other guy who probably won't matter much outside of this episode.
OMG I forgot about Gaia. But, yeah, dude, if anyone should have climbed Faith Mountain with Bellamy and talked about religion or whatever, that would be the person. Also, if anyone were going to tell the truth about what happened to the flame and make the story pivot, it seems like the ex-flamekeeper who's ripe for converting to another religion would be that person, too. Missed opportunity.
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Maybe I'm a jerk, but I lost count of all the times I would have just peaced out and left the planet rather than trying to save the Bardos. What have the Bardos ever done for anyone except be boring?
(Also, I understand that Diyoza has a whole thing about being remembered as a villain because of her war crimes or whatever, so stopping her kid from using WMDs is supposed to be her redemption arc, but, for me, it didn't work very well).
16 hours ago, thuganomics85 said:I feel like I was suppose to be enthralled by the big lunch scene between Bill and Gabriel, but I was nodding off through most of it.
Yeah, I didn't follow along with that. I have no idea what's happening anymore, honestly. But I thought it was funny that he strode off so confidently, and then immediately got disarmed and sent back alone after his evil lunch.
16 hours ago, thuganomics85 said:JR Bourne was having a blast getting to gear-up with the eyeliner and Grounder outfit, which was fun.
I think my #1 favourite moment was when he was fighting Indra and a) he looked like an extra from Hook, b) he had to deliver all his dialogue in the stupid Grounder language, and c) he had to cover his eye with his hand and then turn his face away from the camera while someone tied a shirt around his head because I guess they couldn't/didn't stop filming to give him makeup??
After Madi jumped in the fight, there was a second when I thought maybe the Grounders would just be like, "Never mind single combat, we don't want this guy to be our leader," and turn against him and symbolically step into a new future where they choose their leaders based on something other than who stabs good... but, no.
1 hour ago, ketose said:So, Jordan figured out that it's Judgement Day, which is what Becca said about 300 years ago. Is this going to be like Red Dwarf's "The Inquisitor" where they are judged by their own standards? Clark could beat that rap from her self-righteousness alone.
I don't know Red Dwarf, but now I kind of hope for a scenario where the judge has to try to figure out what standards these people live by and its head just explodes.
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I really respect how good this show is at making me stressed and uncomfortable. I don't have an insightful thought about this episode -- my reaction is just me pointing at my TV, going, "Yes, exactly that. I also struggle with that. I don't know to talk about it. Thanks for making a show."
On 7/13/2020 at 3:53 AM, Glade said:I don't believe that homophobic woman was victimized because she had consensual sex with a man who wasn't one hundred percent straight.
One of the things I like about this show is that it challenges the idea that there's a binary distinction between being a victim and not. In this particular situation, I think that random woman behaved a lot worse than he did, but it's still legitimate to feel upset when someone has sex with you and then immediately tells you they aren't attracted to you.
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On 7/24/2020 at 1:28 AM, ramble said:
Things I hadn’t forgotten were that I didn’t like Clarke from the get go, Lincoln was a beautiful man, and Jaha was a bit of a nut job.
LMAO, I forgot Jaha existed.
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S04.E03: Chapter Thirty-One: The Weird
in Chilling Adventures Of Sabrina
My favourite detail is how randomly Ms. Wardwell was wedged into Blackwood's cult, and how, for all intents and purposes, she's just a normal woman who's suddenly down with handing the world over to monsters. Why would she not move away from this town?
I think one of the random hell kings said they went on a tour of the nine circles.