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2 minutes ago, Orbert said:
I thought that there were only six Infinity Stones. Exactly six. I didn't pause and count them, but it sure looked like more than six in Casey's desk drawer, plus Casey said that they had a lot of them and some guys use them for paperweights.
So... there are only six in our universe, but this show (or at least the TVA) exists outside of or beyond our universe? Something like that?
I think it was meant to show that they've collected several duplicates from time lines that they've "reset". So like the Tesseract that Loki had, when they reset his time line, it went back to a point where it was still in that time line. But the one Loki had was a duplicate from the branch.
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1 hour ago, Bruinsfan said:
It seems likely to me that the Time Keepers are acting to ensure the timeline that results in their own existence.
Oooh, I love that idea as a primary motivating factor. Particularly because it highlights how important technology/weapons are in the outcome of conflicts.
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32 minutes ago, mrspidey said:
That's possible but completely beside my point, which was that Steve ended up with Peggy in the very timeline that all MCU movies take place in. This should be of note because there have been debates about this.
Did he, though? 😉 Even in this first ep here, based on the exposition and what they showed, I think the door is open for a lot of new possibilities. And like Kel Varnsen said, the events are already contradicting the exposition so it might be more complicated than what we currently know. It will be very interesting to see how this all plays out.
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2 minutes ago, Captain Carrot said:
Especially since there was a war with multiple timelines and now there is just one. All that talk of chaos could easily be the talk of the winning timeline in the war.
I'm interested in the other Loki. Everyone is assuming that it's a variant from earlier in his life, but what if it's later in his life after he started his redemption arc. (As an example what if there was a Loki that managed to kill Thanos only for the TVA to show up and 'reset' the timeline).
Exactly... the 'winning' side writing the history.
And I'm wondering if Rogue Loki is a Loki from another 'approved' timeline (because I do think the multiverse already exists, but the TVA controls them and keeps that info as 'need to know').
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2 minutes ago, mrspidey said:
was always supposed to happen.
... according to TPTB at the TVA. This feels like an important distinction at this point, that everything the TVA is saying is in support of their own actions. And we don't know yet who they are or what their motivations are. Even them saying they're trying to prevent the 'chaos' of the multiverse is just... something they've said.
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My suspicion is that it's what Rogue Loki looks like that they are hiding. I also suspect that Rogue Loki knows something that the TVA wants to keep secret, but that even Mobius doesn't know/realize that yet.
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13 minutes ago, AnimeMania said:
I would think the "prime" timeline would be the one that the majority of timelines follow (think something like 89%) and the rest get pruned so that the timelines have no significant fluctuations or deviant branches.
One thing really bothered me, but I am not sure if it is significant. At 11:15 the Miss Minutes TVA reel showed an image of the Earth with a TVA logo stamped over it. Having that picture of the Earth made me think that the TVA's scope is smaller than I believe it is, since I believe they operate on a universal and multidimensional scale. I think the production crew placing the image of the Earth in the instructional TVA video was a poor choice.
Prime according to who, though? And with what agenda?
That's a good point about the Earth logo, I had also noticed that while the All Knowing Timekeepers appeared to not be human, all the TVA minions that we've seen so far seem to be, so this particular facility might be Earth-specific. It also might actually be pretty low on the Corporate food chain.
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13 minutes ago, paigow said:
Right... Prime versions of the Mongolians and the French kid continue to exist in the Sacred Timeline..
Yes, though I suspect the decision about which timeline is "prime" will not always be as clear cut as they're showing it here with the (presumably) rogue Loki on the loose.
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QuoteWas there something I missed? From what I understood, they simply reset the timeline to the point at which it diverged from the "true" timeline, so basically it's similiar to erasing the last 30 or so minutes (or more like 3 when you take the Mongolians) from everybody's mind.
Hopefully they'll be more explicit in their explanations, but it seem that once a branch occurs, the original timeline continues and the branch... branches off. So at the point of branching you now have two timelines with duplicates of everything. Then as both timeline continue, they will diverge from each other and become unique. So when they 'snip the branch', everyone in that branched timeline ceases to exist.
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2 minutes ago, johntfs said:
At this point I'm kind of rooting for the Big Bad variant of Loki because she mostly seems to be killing people who are perpetrating genocides on a scale that beggars the imagination.
Same. I was even wondering if this show was intended to have horror influences, because the TVA is sinister af.
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I love force-sensitive Finn! And that has been my headcanon since Kylo first seemed to sense him in that first stormtrooper battle, but they really dropped the ball on using/showing it. I was glad that they implied it as strongly as they did, but it was something that could have been used to amazing storytelling effect, but it just really wasn't.
I understand why they went back to Tatooine for the ending, (though I agree with some comments I've seen that it was a weird choice given the planet's relationship, or lack thereof, to the various Skywalkers), but I would have loved to have seen Finn and Poe lounging near a ship in the distance, waiting for Rey to finish her goodbyes to Luke and Leia, and then seeing her walking back towards them...
12 minutes ago, SnoGirl said:Ahsoka lives! Dave Filioni posted a drawing on his Instagram Gandalf talking to Ahsoka saying “Everyone thought I was dead too. Look how that turned out.”
That would be awesome!!!
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9 hours ago, Perfect Xero said:
But I think it's pretty powerful that they all made that choice on their own without having to follow someone else's lead. That TFO suppressing those stories from spreading among the ranks/units still doesn't stop it from happening.
Yes, you're totally right, that is a powerful message too... even if you don't see anyone else doing it, still do the right thing.
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9 hours ago, Perfect Xero said:
Finn was my favorite character in TFA and he was my favorite here too. Finn finding other storm troopers who rebelled and deserted, that they had a shared connection to the force. That got me emotional.
Me too! But I so wanted her to say something like, 'we heard about another stromtrooper who escaped, and it gave us hope that we could do that for ourselves too, so we did!'.
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Saw it on Friday. LOOOOOVED it. Haven't laughed in a movie that much in awhile. Had a good crowd though, so maybe that helps. Everyone actually clapped when the credits started to roll.
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16 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:
Maybe I'll make this a matinee
Good idea!! This has the perfect vibe for a matinee!!!
I also get the feeling Ransom is going to be plagued by dogs periodically through the entire movie. Which tickles me to no end.
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New trailer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1 minute ago, scriggle said:
Someone on tumblr dubbed this "pumpkin spice CEvans."
OMG that's perfect. I love it.
And I'd love for CE to get critical recognition for this too, and he's definitely been mentioned (along with Craig, De Armas, Collette, & Plummer) in a lot of the reaction posts that I've seen.
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I LOVE THAT SCARF!!!!! And the colors are FABULOUS!!! And the movie seemed to be very well received at TIFF.
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This thread is glorious. Character posters... SO BEAUTIFUL!!!
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1 hour ago, Anduin said:
Movie making and advertising have changed in the last 40 years.
It definitely has!! The landscape for how fans interact with entertainment properties is much wider now, and they definitely have a multi-pronged approach for all things Star Wars. But one of the great things with the current technology, is that each fan now has the ability to curate their own experience. To get as little or as much immersion as they want. I love that!!
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I don't recall either CE or HA ever confusing Sharon's character with EVC, though. And there were plenty of valid reasons to be squicked by how Sharon and Steve's relationship was portrayed on screen, but that's on the creators that chose that route for the characters. 'Shipping' isn't why fans are inappropriate or mean to an actor/actress, it's just the excuse. But because 'shipping' gets the easy blame, we never address the real issues, which often come down to misogyny, homophobia, hetero-normative bias... etc.
eta: There's also a HUGE difference between explaining why you find something (popular or not) problematic, and specifically telling someone they're wrong for liking/disliking something, or dismissing/belittling their reasoning either way. And that fundamental misunderstanding of what helps foster effective discussion/communication is found everywhere, not just 'shipping wars'.
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Saw this on twitter and it's so fucking true:
Yep, STILL PISSED.
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50 minutes ago, Dandesun said:
The point is, fans should have evolved at this point but if often feels they devolved or just evolved into much nastier creatures. Fandom can be wonderful and it very often is... supportive, creative, accepting, encouraging... but there is always that dark side. And shipping brings out the worst in some, it really does.
Eh, shipping wars are just part of the symptoms, they aren't a cause. And I guess I feel like the idea that the moral universe bends towards justice is a myth, I think it bend towards apathy and it's why we keep repeating the same patterns through the decades. No one seems to realize there is no finish line, you always have to stay vigilant and keep fighting injustice, because there will always be selfish assholes trying to cause someone pain (which is another reason the ending they chose for Steve's character, of all characters... burrrrnnnnns so fucking much). Fandom is the best of us and also the worst of us, and I think it always has been. The only thing that changes is the technology.
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27 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:
but she sure dissed Sharon and Steve a lot
There was a lot of valid reason for dissing Sharon and Steve as a romantic couple, but Emily definitely did not (and does not) deserve to be treated like she was. I actually loved her character in WS, it was the PTB's story decisions in CW that were poorly done.
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S01.E01: Glorious Purpose
in Loki
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finally understood the question
...which then Steve was assumed to have gone back and undone - resetting the time line again - once they stopped Thanos. But my thing was, if they needed that gizmo they used at the beginning of the ep when they 'reset' Loki's timeline, how was Steve able to do it without that gizmo? There is still a tone of handwavy stuff happening, and I'm not at all confident they care to nail it down. So I suspect it will still just be left as wibbly-wobbly, timey wimey stuff. Which... leaves a lot of possible head canons for a lot of things, both for this series and for prior movie.
Eta: Oh, you mean why wasn't it here for Tony to take. Maybe they didn't clip that branch all the way back. Maybe there is still a nub? Like if they reset Loki back to just before he teleported maybe, and had someone stop him? I'm not convinced that the TVA aren't cultivating branches for their own purposes, but just ones that they are controlling so... it's an intriguing question.