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Andy73

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  1. I feel like Keri: the ending was so perfect that any sequel would be.... I can't even imagine it! I think the final told us everything. I mean, the show is a story about a marriage... and the finale tells us that despite the thousand problems they have had (and in all marriages there are a thousand problems) they are still together! I remember a great Sistermagpie’s post: when sound was on we saw spies stuff, then the music goes away, we saw the P&E…. and then the music comes back with the spies stuff. Oh yes!!!!
  2. I think he was the exact opposite to a monster to him there. He told him his suspicions because he didn't want him to be another Martha even if he was blowing some longterm Centre operation with Renee. Stan can check if she's an Illegal or not. It wouldn't be better if he kept quiet and eventually he found out she was a spy and he just assumed Philip was in on it. Stan's been undercover himself. He's been that monster. (Even if his character as written doesn't really support it.) I agree. I don’t think Philip was a monster with Stan there. I think he was really honest with him… as a friend! Oh yes, It's likely he didn't want another Marta. Renee drives me crazy too. Sometime I think she is a KGB agent, sometimes no. Why KGB should use an illegal on ex counter-intelligence?
  3. Good question… War…. It does not exist in nature. It is a human invention. I war there are no saints! No living being can be as atrocious with members of the same species like man can be! Yet war is part of our being. Yesterday…. Today…. In a future!
  4. Oh yes! That is other example. Liz was in a very bad place that time!! is Elizabeth evil? I see her, and Philip too, as soldier!!! Very well trained soldier. They were fighting a war. Ok for us for wrong side but… i don’t remember them unjustified murder in a military pow… like those committed by arkan’s tiger or the nazi massacre in Europe… I don't know if I explained myself. Apologie if I offended someone!!!
  5. I remember so well this ep. It got me a tear for both Smith and Elizabeth! This is a great example of how the show connects us with its characters, showing us their feelings. And it lays us questions: is Elizabeth an evil people as Smith said? Or not? If yes, why? Again, if no, why?
  6. Rewatched 2×04 A Little Night of Music The Americans are staging the world of human relationships! The series, we have said many times, is a very powerful magnifying glass aimed at the Family, explored in such a meticulous game of masks and lies. ‘The world of physics encompasses the microscopic, the submicroscopic, the very distant, the world of unseen things,’ says Anton Baklanov at the beginning of the episode, in a sort of manifesto of the series itself, which, in this episode, focuses on what is deepest and most invisible in the world: consciousness. I agree Claudia: Elizabeth hasn't recovered yet! I liked the scene of the first their meeting: Claudia whispers sitting behind Liz, who often reacts only with her eyes, as if talking to her was actually something much more inner. Claudia looks like her Talking Cricket... The truth, for characters forced to live in a world of lies and secrets, can only emerge in the form of pseudo-confessions, that is disguised (also) as a lie. Stan admits to having an affair, but lies about the “who”; Phillip argues with Martha without it being possible to tell how much is fake and how much real there is in his outburst. Elizabeth in disguise tells the story of the rape: I have the impression that she wasn't just acting with that boy... Page prays at the table... I loved Philip and Elizabeth in that scene... as well as their dialogue in the car. Yes guys, Page is telling lies... you are losing control over her!!! The final scene is amazing: Elizabeth is a fury (why???) Philip is as shocked like me... and the girl goes away with Anton.... Marriage is hard. Great Philip….
  7. You are right, thank you! The doubt is still alive .... But that's the good! May be yes! Definitely she did for the child, but for business too. It’s dangerous have an upset child, who knows real ID his parents, walks in DC.
  8. Just watched “The walk in” 2X03 People disapproved Elizabeth for burning the letter pointing out her u-turn. But honestly, what else could she have done? Here comes the flood…. I saw a tear on Liz's face... I had it too I still surprised, like first watch, how how anxious Elizabeth is: she is really afraid.
  9. May be you are right…. I’m not so sure it was a honey-trap! Do you remember if it was before Chiacago’s or later?
  10. Thank you for your post!!! This is the real mistery of the Americans!!! She has such long hair today too, doesn't she? We know very well that Elizabeth also has her own fragilities, even if her dedication to the Cause has always been far firmer than that of Philip . “The Midges” does nothing but confirm this her position, first in the considerations about Alexei, then in the confrontation with Paige and finally with Philip. However, the picture that emerges from this is profoundly different from what we would have had if these same scenes had been in the first or second year: we know Elizabeth’s: we know how much her apparent coldness is in fact a constant work of rationalization of emergencies, of normalization of reality, of pragmatism above all. Elizabeth brings everything back on the most practical level (“it would not be right to give him such a weight”, where the weight would be equivalent to a death sentence) and above all normalizes an issue that is anything but normal, equating the inevitable and necessary “unspoken” in any relationship to lies of this magnitude. Elizabeth is not trying to manipulate Page with false rhetoric, but this is something she has convinced herself to believe, because perhaps it is the only way to live all this without definitively splitting, losing all her humanity. At least I agree with you! I don’t agree with them. I found that scene a very romantic moment. I thought to honey-trap only once in the whole show: in S6 when she needs his help with Kimmy…. Agree! Philip’s flashback. I think Tuan and Alexei work like a trigger for him and also I think all flashback are at first related to his father and then how his family was poor. However, I find his flashbacks quite cryptic…. Also I think Philip here is understanding It is legitimate to be faithful to one's cause, it is also legitimate to ask questions where necessary, to question, even if only to emphasize then with even more conviction one's ideas. he does that especially when he is willing to draw lessons from the condition of Alexei’s family, he see what happens when personal decisions are mixed with those of his kids – if there is one thing that Pasha’s affair clearly shows is that the blood linkage is not necessarily enough to save the family one. Oh, this is really true!!!!
  11. Just watched Cardinal 2x02 Well there is not much to say: thriller in this episode is really present: Elizabeth in every scene shows all her terror... a look at the window... her posture with which she scrutinizes the environment outside the front door... a drop of water falling from the tap... And then love: I had forgotten the relief on Elizabeth’s when Philip showed up at home unexpected. It was stunning! Elizabeth was openly happy that her husband chose her over the mission; that said everything about how much she’d come to need him at this point. That is why I love this show!!! In this ep. Elizabeth is very warried about kids… then we can see her u-turn: she is ready to involve Page in spies stuff when Mother Russia call! A connection whit START: here Philip answer to Elizabeth: we’ll get used to it. In START Elizabeth said the same. The ring closes. Spy stuff: FBI makes a good work with Dameran!
  12. Again: thank you for your post! As usual you give me other pow that I would never have had. I agree: the entire 5th season is a path forward the end. Some line are a little bit ridiculous (US want to starve the Russians), but this is a long marathon. Tuan: for me he a “pebble in the shoe” his behavior is no so clear for me: Why is he so radical in general, especially with Pasha and then we discover him fond of his adoptive family? What is his background? Elizabeth: she is She is split: she doesn't trust Page, she would like to protect her… otho she would want Page like her… Page: she still doesn't know who she wants to be. Hard not to understand her: who would be able to handle such a thing at his age? I know: you don’t like so much Holly’s performance. It’s seems flat… I agree… but… may be JJ wants her in this way to show us she confused… I agree. In 6th season he was a breath of fresh air Totally agree!!!! I miss them, but no… I don’t want a sequel…
  13. Oops. They did it again Yesterday, from Italian press: Sweden, the network of Russian spies dismantled: the double existence, which lasted a decade, of Sergei and Elena It's true, in the end, they discovered them. But it's been a while since, in the late 1990s, they arrived in Sweden from Moscow like any couple. And, once they settled behind a screen of legality, they turned into ‘illegal’, spies on behalf of the Crane, the Russian military secret service. Sergei Skvortsov and his wife Elena Koulkova: a case reminiscent of the plot of the extraordinary TV series The Americans.
  14. I'm still alive.... But right now I don't have time to watch more episodes...😢
  15. I agree! And I think to her line to Elizabeth: I'm not afraid of dying; I'm afraid of being alone. She is looking for connection, she dives into his mother's club for that, imho. We know they weren’t in love, but I always thought that there was more than one business relationship between them. We never saw the normal family dynamic; we saw them in a particular moment: Elizabeth was heavily under stress because of Timoshev. I don't see Philip trying with her already knowing that she doesn't want it. I mean: I can't imagine Philip claiming alleged marital rights... I don't know if I was clear I like to think they were friends... as well as colleagues. And I can’t imagine Claudia makes gossip… 😀 Ohh, I love it too!!! I should add it to my favorite ep’s scenes. May be you are right. But also I like think that one’s of many reasons to get off the train was for Henry. And I add because she felt herself definitely disconnected from her parents... she saw her future in Russia. I think about what they said to themselves at her home before leaving: she was definitely on other page…
  16. 2x01 Comrades Just watched for second time… uhm… may be the third! Lol I had incredibly forgotten how clever this show was at creating tension. And this episode stands out precisely for this: it is the small gestures that increase the heartbeat: a terrified look of Elizabeth, the sealing the house... Philip's stutter.... I didn't remember how traumatized Elizabeth was by the massacre of Emmet's family... it seems like she's handling it worse. In the first part of the episode we see the confirmation of what had already become increasingly evident in the second part of last season: the strengthening of the ideas and character of Philip who went hand in hand with a softening of Elizabeth – certainly no less devoted to the cause, but more aware of her feelings as a person and not only as a soldier of Russia. Many peoples probably have already thought about it : Elizabeth's meeting with Bambi's family suggests that the season will talk us about the protection of kids.... The scenes I preferred: Breakfast: hearing Henry talk about the friend who was going to suffocate because of the apple while Elizabeth eats bacon ecstatic (ok... it must have been good, but really good...) after what happened at night, it's priceless! It was the top in terms of double senses and irony! Stan: I think a bullet was enough! Elizabeth and Leanne sitting on the car: I loved Elizabeth's face when she tells her that things between her and Phil are fine ip. It reminded me of a teenager in love!! Philip in spy mode: ok the shock but what has to be done must be done: ’‘Elizabeth , the kids…’‘ and then he goes into the closet for the suitcase with the cipher ...’ At the carnival: Elizabeth immediately realizes that Philip is working with Henry by his side... The Jennings family happy at the carnival
  17. I agree. IMHO the aim of the show is a story about a marriage and the connection with people…. Then spy story….I've never seen the JJ intention to punish Page. They leave her there…. alone …. with a big question mark about her future. I think one of the reasons Page stayed in the US was his brother. She couldn't stand the idea of leaving him alone... I love your point of view!!! At least there is only one thing over their job: their relationship. If you think about it, they have always put the other in front of everything since the pilot. Take the order to tell Page the truth: Elizabeth was determined to obey, she thought it was right... but she didn't say it behind Philip's back... they told him together, when Page asked. And I don’t mention Philip! Totally agree!!! At least Henry is the healthy, innocent, part of the family and he is the one who saves his parents and, at the same time, condemns them by talking to Stan! We always thought he was a second character in the show but actually in S6 he plays a key role. I agree… but imho it’s more complex. Look Harvest or William… they didn’t lost themself… I think P&E realized that they had found their own soul mate. I definitely agree! Here I’m not sure! I mean, I think they trust each other on the job and Philip trust Elizabeth at 360: he would never have proposed to her to defect if he didn't trust her ...
  18. I liked the fifth season. Maybe not like the others but I found it interesting and certainly set the basis for the sixth season and the final. There are many scenes from this season that I remember with pleasure: - P&E kill the technician in the lab (yes I know: it's terrible but the scene is wonderful) and Philip’s line: we should tell this to Page? - Elizabeth disguise… - The real weeding - P, E and Page in darkroom - Elizabeth's incredulous and disgusted look when she realizes that Philip won't shoot in Dyatkovo and other funny lines… I found the whole scene brilliant! 12 minutes during which I wondered what was going to happen... and when everything seems to be ok, here comes Elizabeth’s shot as a punch in the mouth!! Oh your questions are mine too… Here we can see Oleg define himself and we can understand why he will comeback in US in S6. Uhm….Have we already said that this storyline is one of the few things that doesn't work??? As I said, the path to the S6 begins. Stan begins to have problems with work and begins to feel the need for connection with other people. He gets closer and closer to the Jennings and ties up to Rene. Those will make realistic the garage scene. Good call! I think your first idea was correct: I think she believes that forgetting what happened is wrong because it could mean becoming a bad person. If Tuan is Elizabeth without Philip, the Morozovs are the Jennings in Russia. And Philip understand the best plan for Henry is stay in US. And he believes it so much that he will be able to convince Elizabeth... he never falters, not even in the face of her despair. Here we can see how Elizabeth would be if Philip was out of her life.. if she would work alone. And she knows it very well. She will tell It to Tuan. For 8 EP. S6 we will think that Elizabeth’s prophecy has come true. We thought she had become like Tuan, we thought she lost herself. And finally: thank you for another your wonderful post!!!
  19. No, she isn’t furious whit Arkady. I misunderstood your post. Sorry my fault. We know she suspected! She said that clearly to Oleg in S6 when they met each other. Agree! He is still committed with this. Serving his country. We already said: people thought Philip never defect only because Elizabeth; I disagree: when he can choose, he always chooses his country, he chooses to stay in. And of course he didn’t want to carry that big lie…. He knows very well that it’s bad to lie to Elizabeth… he learned his lesson
  20. I’ here again. I think Adderolht is the best FBI agent we see in the show. He uses a difference style work here with William compared to Father Andrej. He is more aggressive with Father Andrej. It seems he evaluates in different way the two of them. I feel he respects William determination. Oh…. Never thought! Thank you. Those lines must have strike Stan. They sound like something for him… and of course for Elizabeth in S6.
  21. Thank you for your post. I feel JJ knew where they wanted to go. I understood Arkady and Oleg journey, honestly not Tatiana’s. I didn’t understand why she became a member of hard KGB. I know she is furios with Oleg, but why Arkady? We already spent a lot words about Misha and Irina stuff. More I think about this, less it convinces me. I thin that is the only one second story didn’t work. All characters have a credible background, either Misha and Irina no. I think she is moving from Pastor Tim to her mom because she is feeling like she was betrayed by Pastor Tim. Never disappoint a teenager. Also I feel she understood what her Mom told her in 4x08 (the famous Keri’s vein scene). I think Elizabeth was afraid of the idea of going home. On side she didn’t really know how home is changed… on the other side she was committed in America and she was sure she was doing a good thing for her Country. this is linked to what I wrote above. IMHO Elizabeth felt that the scope of her life was to serve his country. And this is forever. Me too. The show talk about people need connections with other people! Page felt herself alone and she joined in her mom teams, Philip with Stan and vice-versa. William says loneliness made him dry-inside…. After last fought with her daughter Elizabeth realized only person who understands her is her husband… Oh yes!!! I loved your analysis about Philip here. I feel Philip didn’t see himself like William. He was afraid to became like him. But he felt close himself with William POV. He understands his doubts. Totally agree. at least Philip made his journey . He understood who he is. On a thousand occasions he could have thrown everything behind him... I also think of the final of S5 when he decides to hold the tape and tell its contents to his wife. If he hadn't, they would have come home and no one would have known anything. Philip takes the decisions he takes because he believes it!!! …. to be continued…
  22. OMG Dear Zella… you don’t know how you are right!!! LOL. Do you believe me if I tell you I didn’t get the double meaning in that scene at first time. I’ve just rewatch now… Liz eats that bacon like she were in heaven.... Anyway, the best sex scene of all show was the tooth extraction in Open House. For God rules, it is a part of TV history!
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