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18 hours ago, dirtypop90 said:
Another thought: I wonder if Madison signed up for Colton. He seems more of what she's looking for. I can't see her signing up for any of the men on Hannah's season except Luke but he was the early villain and never in the running for bachelor.
I saw a clip of her saying she was so excited it was Peter and that she was hoping it would be him. She's definitely aware of his past, but she probably hopes that if he loves her, he can wait, which he could if he did. But he probably won't.
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I think part of Madison's approach may be "if it's meant to be, it will be." She did say something along those lines this past Monday. She probably believes that if she is meant to be with Peter that it will work out, and if it's not, then it will be okay too.
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14 minutes ago, HookedOnAFeeling said:
LOL, getting a bit "nickypicky" ? You've never mispronounced a word or used the wrong word in a sentence? There are many things that you can criticize Kelly for but really, this is where you want to plant your flag?
"Windling" is a problem but "finasco" isn't?
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I've seen lots of people laughing at finasco. It has become part of the bachelor language much like befumbled.
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1 hour ago, nutty1 said:
I have said it all along...Peter couldn't wait to bang Victoria F. So even if Maddie was the one he wanted, he couldn't resist Victoria. I say throw him to the curb, that horn dog!
I agree with this. Steve says that all of the footage and pictures taken from people that saw them on the day portion of Victoria's hometown said they were all over each other. He dumps her when he finds out about her homewrecking, but then lets her come back long enough to have sex with her and then dumps her again. It's gross.
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Madison is making fun of herself on Twitter for how many times she said "like." I like that she can laugh at herself.
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Reality Steve has more information up today. He shared that Madison tells Peter before overnights that she is a virgin and that she would have a hard time moving forward with him if he sleeps with anyone else. So, he knows going into overnights how she feels. She then finds out through a group text with the other girls that he had sex with at least one of them. She then leaves the show.
She was filming something yesterday. Steve thinks that she is with Peter now, but they are not engaged. I just can't see how they ever make it given that she explained to him how she felt and he went ahead and slept with someone else anyway. I don't know how you ever get over that.
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8 hours ago, chocolatine said:
The sad thing is that RS makes more money from his blog than most of us do from our "real" jobs. Millions of people read it, and it has an insane amount of ads. His writing is terrible, and he seems like the kind of person I would avoid in real life, but nobody else gets the Bachelor/Bachelorette spoilers he does.
He writes about other shows too, but none of them get the publicity that his spoilers on the Bachelor/Bachelorette get.
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I have always said that it makes sense to not get engaged to someone that just slept with someone else. All the way back to when Emily was pissed at Brad and Nick confronted Andi in ATFR. I know that it’s what you sign up for, and the show isn’t reality, but they also stress being there “for the right reasons.” No actual right reasons person is going to be okay with their almost fiancé sleeping with someone else possibly the day before they get engaged.
That said, it’s all in how you approach it, and I think Luke handled it poorly with Hannah. Any contestant with this issue can say, “for ME, this is a line” without shaming or seemingly telling the lead what he/she can’t do. That’s where Luke went off the rails.
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On 2/8/2020 at 5:14 PM, leighdear said:
Of course they say that. What else could they say?
"Steve has ferreted out a bunch of scandalous stuff on our new contestants, all the locations we go to and who the lead picks, so the millions of people that read his site will be dying to watch!"
Sorry, I think more people than ever like to watch spoiled. This thread is proof of that.
I agree. It doesn't stop me from watching. I'm just a little surprised that they are willing to admit how much he gets under their skin.
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18 hours ago, leighdear said:
But Reality Steve doesn't really CARE that he doesn't know the finale for Peter. Anybody that reads his site knows this, so any supposed "baiting" done by folks at ABC is in their own minds and is meaningless.
Steve likes to spoil during the filming, and the ending. And he usually does it all successfully. But he readily and freely admitted as soon as this season filming was done, that he didn't know which girl Peter picked, if he picked one at all. Every season he spoils as much as he can, as accurately as he can. Sometimes he makes mistakes, and he owns up to them every time. But he gets SO much more right than anybody else, anywhere.
He's has millions of followers and is the only one who does what he does. Not knowing the ending for this season won't diminish his following or his livelihood.
He's better than me. I would enjoy spoiling the seasons, especially when they brag that it can't be done. They've been very open this season that they believe he ruins the season when he does it.
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I also read an article where Robert (the producer?) bragged that less than 50 people know the ending to this season. To me, it seems he is baiting Reality Steve. The more he brags, the more likely it is that it's going to be spoiled, IME.
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1 minute ago, Dejana said:
I don't think it's been confirmed, just my assumption based on the things we do know. Sorry for any confusion.
I think it's her too. She seems the person most likely to say that, although given her stance on virginity, "the things that you are doing with me" surprises me since it's so public. I'm not surprised that virgins mess around, but being on national television where the whole world knows what you're doing is something else.
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53 minutes ago, Dejana said:
Ali has said she only slept with one of her guys in the Fantasy Suites (Roberto), but who knows if she'd have stuck to that if Frank hadn't dropped out. People ragged on Sean for being a "virgin" but I don't think that's totally unrelated to him being the only Bachelor who married his F1.
The whole premise of the show encourages the lead to string along as many people as possible until settling on one of them, preferably with an engagement. Some guys have clearly picked the F1 based on the "best in show" during Fantasy Suites. It's another problem when contestants and leads have different ideas about what sort of boundaries should be drawn when, technically, they are not in an exclusive relationship. You have some F1s who just don't watch the season, an "out of sight, out of mind" mentality, and only care about what happens once the lead made their pick. Then you have contestants who confront the lead about what he/she is doing physically with others during the season, like Luke P with Hannah Brown, and apparently Madi with Peter. Peter hasn't even tried to be discreet about how much he's making out with everyone.
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Brad's F2 for his second stint as lead was Chantal. I remember their AFTR and Emily being pissed about what she'd seen of Brad/Chantal during the season and Brad practically begging for a wedding to happen on the spot. They were already hanging by a thread at that point and IMO he knew she was about to bail.
As the article noted, Rozlyn got kicked off the show for alleged involvement with a producer and wasn't the producer let go as well? Then again, that was ages ago in Bachelor years and they probably aren't going to kick off a lead who hasn't done anything illegal. Still, I am not sure if the show would really want to encourage that line to be crossed in the #MeToo age, even if this relationship is entirely consensual.
Have we seen for sure that it is Madi that says he can't do what he's doing with her if he's doing it with other women too?
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2 hours ago, nutty1 said:
I heard Peter on an ET interview from the other day. He said his frontrunner never changed since week 4.
They always say this. If this is true, then why is he humping so many different women? See, I think it's statements like this that get them in trouble and doom their relationships post show. It happened to Brad. It happened to Andi Dorfman. It happened to Ben. (He's the one that told both of them that he loved them, right?)
Andi said it was Josh from night 1. Then, Nick asked if that was true, then why did she sleep with him?
I think that was Emily's issue with Brad as well. It was pretty clear that he slept with his F2 despite telling Emily in the FS that he was falling in love with her.
If the lead is truly falling in love with one person, and knowing the history of this show and knowing the issues making out with multiple people causes, then he or she would stop the sex with all the others. They never do though, and it always comes back to bite them in the end. I know it's the reality of the show, but it's not the reality of the real world and how one is supposed to behave in a real relationship. This applies for Hannah B. too.
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I am so grossed out by how many of them he is making out with. He kissed 12 girls on the very first night. He's making out with them in front of each other. I get that dating a guy that is dating other girls is part of the show, but it hasn't ever been this bad, has it? I want to vomit at the thought of kissing some guy who just made out with three other people in front of me.
I actually really like Madi, and I went to Auburn, so I am rooting for her, but I don't necessarily want her to win.
I remember when many people didn't kiss until the fantasy suites, or say that they were falling in love until then. I think that's when Emily told Brad for the first time. They seemed like actual adults. This is like watching high school. I have taught high school, so I know.
I do think he is terrified of being rejected, and I think he needs/wants someone to boss him around. That's why he fell so hard for Hannah B. She is very strong willed and says what she wants. Love her or hate her, she does what she wants.
Also, any idea who the girl is that tells him if he is doing with other girls what he is doing with her, then it's over?
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Has it been confirmed that there will be a season 2?
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17 hours ago, ljenkins782 said:
I'd say, not at all, since the "stars" they book are always complete nobodies who would kill for a chance to appear on ANY tv show. Peter's desperate attempts to seem excited about "Chase Rice" (for some reason, it sounded stilted and awkward the way he kept using the full name) were hilarious. Apparently this guy was on Survivor? I've watched every season and he doesn't register. unless he was the goober who made final 3 and sang an embarrassing song at a reunion? I can't recall the season, but I know there was a cringeworthy moment there.
I don't watch Survivor, but I did read that he made the final 3 on his season, so maybe that was him! That reminds me of something Jed would do - sing at the reunion. Awkward.
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16 hours ago, eel21788 said:
I didn't like her then, and I still don't like her now. It isn't just the character. The actress is awful, too.
Her upper lip no longer moves, and while I, in general, don't like to comment on actresses' appearances, it has affected her speech and it is majorly distracting to me.
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I've only seen one of Victoria F's IG posts, but in it, she's throwing rose petals up and warning people to get ready for a wild ride. That seems contradictory to the persona on television.
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9 hours ago, CheshireCat said:
I didn't like how they introduced Bishop, I thought they should have done many things differently but what I liked was that she was so very different from Ziva and that they were not trying to bring in another Ziva but found another character and agent to fill her place, like it would be in real life. Needless to say, I don't like where they're going with her. It makes no sense. Let Bishop be her own character.
YES! Bishop was an analyst that noticed patterns. She ate junk food like crazy and sat on the floor. She was unique. Now, she's just unbearably annoying. She really ruins the show for me. She's so angry and disrespectful to almost everyone around her. She's no Ziva, and that should be a good thing.
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9 hours ago, leocadia said:
This alone makes me side-eye his protestations about being upset that the producers put him on Vic F's date. He knew she was going on the show, he's been on reality tv, did he really think that wasn't going to happen? I'm sure he was thrilled that he got exposure beyond being the bland musical guest on the date. I also question Peter's supposed ignorance about the set up. TPTB had to tell him to pick Vic F so he must have known something was up.
I was right there with the girls on the reaction to Cleveland, but it was awesome seeing Cedar Point get some love! So many memories of fun times at that park. I wonder if they actually closed the park for the day or if they filmed on a September/October weekday when the park is only open on weekends. I would kill for no-wait access to the rides for a day!
So much drama from these women! Whether she meant it or not, they all should have responded like Chelsea. They are 100% in the right, but bitching about others is usually the kiss of death.
I don't think he's that good of an actor.
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This is spoilery for sure, but an article on realitytvworld.com says that Steve has confirmed that Peter does not propose at the final rose ceremony. He may have gotten engaged since, or he may propose on the ATFR, but he does not propose to anyone at the last rose ceremony.
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Amanda Stanton had to reveal her monthly income when her ex-husband sued to have his monthly child support payments reduced. At the time, Amanda was living with Josh Murray. She was making THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH and Josh was making 10,000 a month. Off of Instagram. That is absolutely insane. No wonder they all want that. It does eventually fade, but not if they are smart. The ones that have taken it to the next level have podcasts and it is now their full time job. Nick Viall appears to be the most successful male contestant to do this.
Additionally, because of all of the exposure, some contestants go on to date, and even marry, real life celebrities. Lauren from Ben's season is now married to a country music singer, Chris Lane. Wells Adams is engaged to Sarah Hyland. Amanda was close to that with pro volleyball player Bobby Jacobs. Even Kelly from The Real World New Orleans married Scott Wolf. Jacinda became a famous actress. Kit Hoover from Road Rules hosts Access Live. Several have gotten their own HGTV shows. Vanessa, Nick's "winner" hosts Bachelorette viewing parties and gets paid. Many of them are on Cameo and get paid to send video messages. It's not your normal way to make money, for sure, but, if they are smart, they can make a lot of money that can last them for a long, long time. For every one that "makes it," there are ten that don't, but even if it is just local appearances, many of these contestants are making really good money.
That is a really long way of saying every single person, including Peter, that goes on this show, is doing it for exposure and for the benefits that will come after if they receive a lot of attention. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar and that is who should be sent home.
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19 hours ago, CrazyDog said:
This is SO much less interesting than the proposed Sister Wives deal, LOL.
I cannot imagine (given the comments above, that make total sense) that Madison will be at all happy with him (though there's no confirmation that he actually does hook up during the show? the voiceovers are so often misleading) and if he ends up with Hannah Ann...well, good luck to them. I cannot stand her, but she does not seem like the type to end up with someone who's been hooking up along the way, though I can totally see her wanting the WIN. Or maybe she'd rather be the broken-hearted F2 / next Bachelorette.
There is a clip of him having a conversation with a woman where they are discussing if he has "been doing the same thing you're doing with me with other girls" and how whoever the woman is will be done if he has. Peter has tears in his eyes and admits that he has been "intimate with some of the other women" and he can't lie about it.
I could be wrong about Madison's virginity being tied to her religion, but I don't think I am. Her bio is clear about how strong her faith is and how it plays such a huge part of her life. Her mission trips have been widely discussed. I too am from the South and Auburn and I am familiar with the belief system. She specifically says that she is looking for a man with the same values that she has. There is nothing wrong with either belief system. I'm just commenting on how I find it hard to believe that she both wants what she says she wants and that she convinces herself that he meets that definition. Given that the windmill was publicized so much, it is interesting that she chose to audition and meet Peter specifically.
Peter has asked that the windmill stop being discussed so much because it is disrespectful to his potential girlfriend that he is with now, if he is actually with someone right now. He's vague but he did say something along the lines of how it would be hurtful and uncomfortable for her.
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The Bachelor Season 24: Spoilers and Speculation
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From what I recall, they had not kissed.