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Not sure I'd call it fun as much as I'd call it obsessive stalker fandom at it's nutso best, lol. I may have to revise my opinion of the actors' abilities though, if the fan-wanking that they hate each other is anywhere close to accurate, lol. I just finished watching the 2nd half of the season and I'm shocked they killed off JJ - though I'm not necessarily upset at losing the character. He was kind of played out if he wasn't going to really show any growth and just kept repeating the same, tragic mistakes.

Same. We've heard a lot about Kie's parents not being Kooks themselves and wanting a better life for their kids, etc. Not once did I ever recall or get the vibe that Ward was anything other than a Kook his entire life. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I feel very strongly that this is some ridiculous retcon to give Rafe an "outsider who is being screwed by the real Kooks" storyline this season, which does not fit with the show canon for the Cameron family at all.

peach - so nice to see you here instead of the BB forum! Agree about the first episode being slow and it picking up in the 2nd. I watched 3 right after 2 Friday night but was busy with other stuff yesterday so I finished up 4 & 5 tonight. I'm trying to piece together how the real estate developer is tied to the Blackbeard plot - got confirmation of what I suspected about the old recluse's daughter tonight and while it certainly blew JJ's mind, it did not blow mine, lol. I'm pretty sure Rafe's GF is a new addition - and a not very bright one at that. I was also very thrown in E5 when Rafe told her that Ward had been a Pogue himself. Is that retcon? Also, I hate hate hate that Netflix is doing this half-season release then waiting until next month to release the rest. Just let me binge it as I like over the next week or two!

Veto being used right until the end FTW!!!

Damn CBS for taking away the rewind option on the feeds, lol.

It wouldn't be hard to throw one Juror back in the house and have another DE at F5.

Isn't there a 2hr episode coming up next week or the week after? If so, a jury buy back could make sense.

How hard would it be for Ainsley to appear and nullify the nominations or the planned eviction? That's not something that necessarily needs to have happened already in time for airing on Wednesday's show.

LOL - perhaps we should start a "Free Cam!" fund to fly an airplane over the BB house before Veto. Maybe that would buy Mak a clue and she'd put up Chelsie instead of Leah.

There is still time for Production to rig this up to save Leah if they're so inclined. They could just cancel the first eviction and let her right back into the house and make the second eviction a TRUE DE - let the HOH nominate 3 people and the HGs vote on who to save. Whomever gets the most votes stays and the other two are evicted. I'm manifesting this now... Leah is returned to the House, knowing who engineered her eviction, she or Angela win HOH and put Cam, Mak & Chelsie up for eviction. Kimo & Rubina are confused by Julie's instructions on what they're voting for and they, stupidly, say they're voting to evict Cam because they have no relationship with him, and thus Cam stays while Chelsie & Mak are sent packing.

We still have 20-ish hours for Production to get it together and smack Mak with the Chelsie-faced frying pan, lol. Heck, I'd settle for a Kimo-faced frying pan.

That's the thought I randomly had last night after she won the Veto. If Chelsie is half the player I think she is, she is going to firmly put a marker on Mak's back with Leah, Kimo & Rubina, talking about how she's suddenly winning comps and she could very well "comp beast" her way to the end if she is allowed to stay in the house. Leah already has a big enough target on her back for taking out T'Kor that Chelsie probably doesn't need to worry that anyone left in the house will target her first, but Mak is the only other HG left who has comp wins. Not to mention, Mak's second obsession after Angela, was having more comp wins than Tucker because she couldn't stand him being the comp champ of the season. She is, stupidly, painting a target on her back that Chelsie will be only too happy to highlight to any of the other HGs. Mak will be lucky to make it to F4.

And this is why we need Leah to win the Veto and take Angela off the block. Force Mak into the move that does the least damage to her in the long run by getting rid of one of either Kimo or Rubina. She can even throw Cam up there as a pawn - though I would laugh my butt off if Leah, Angela & Kimo voted him out. A fan can dream until the very bitter end. And, besides, I'm riding my skating fan Carreira/Ponomarenko uber high after their FANTASTIC season debut this weekend, so it's carrying over into BB for the moment.

I'm just gonna sit in my corner, rocking away until veto is played, hoping Leah wins a Diamond Power of Veto and takes Angela down then nominates Chelsie.

So, what did she tell Cam?

Makensy is still obsessed with justice for Matt's eviction in Week 1, lol.

Well, she's telling Rubina that she totally lied to Leah and is letting Leah believe that Angela will probably be safe. Sure, she could be lying to Rubina, but this seems a lot more honest from her than her conversation with Leah.

Mak just told Rubina that she wants Angela gone. And Rubina's totally down with that. So, Mak lied through her teeth in promising Angela safety earlier this week.

Eh, I want Chelsie out. So, I'd be down with Rubina winning Veto and taking Kimo off which forces Mak into putting Cam, Leah or Chelsie on the block - I'm sure she'd put Chelsie up. At that point, she has no control over the vote and who knows what would happen. I think Angela would probably go but I also think Leah would be capable of convincing Kimo & Rubina that Chelsie is the bigger threat and they need to break up the Cam/Mak/Chelsie trio.

Sounds like Kimo is the target, with Rubina as the backup and Rubina out if someone comes off the block.

They don't usually wait to bring back the feeds for post-competition DRs. Button Boy probably either forgot to turn it back on or they're stupidly waiting until after the West Coast airing is over.

Feeds still on pets - who knows when the feeds will return.

Agree on these two's nominees, however Mak would vote Chelsie out over Cam in a heartbeat. If Cam comes down then it gets trickier for her but I expect that Mak would go up as the pawn because there is no way Cam would keep Chelsie over Mak. Cam may be in a bit of a bind on a replacement nom if Kimo comes down - he's promised Leah safety. He may have no choice but to put Angela up as a pawn. I think Angela would be okay, but Chelsie would try hard to convince Mak to vote her out over Rubina. Oh, Chelsie will be gunning for Leah, but it will be as a BD - she'll go the easy route and put Kimo & Rubina up first, with Leah as the replacement nom. Probably correct on these two's nominees also, if only because they are the easy, obvious ones. Leah will be Kimo's target - justice for T'Kor, until he realizes she was throwing him UTB this week to save herself from the block. He may, if he believes that actual truth, turn his target on Cam. As he's promised safety to Angela, Mak would be the likely replacement nom. If Mak's next to Cam, she'll stay - Angela & Leah will keep her over him; if it's Mak/Leah noms on eviction night, then Leah may very well go, depending on how hard Chelsie can mist her, especially about Leah. For Mak - yes, those are the two, easy choices. Her problem comes in a replacement nom situation - I'm pretty sure she's promised or heavily hinted to Leah & Angela that they're safe this week, which means her replacement nom would be... Chelsie? Maybe? Cam yes, but I think Mak may be the other nominee instead of Leah. I think she's not angry at Leah for getting rid of T'Kor - and I don't think she'll forget T'Kor's reminders last night about the other trio. She may not target Chelsie, at least not immediately, but she'll go after the other group. Mak and Cam, ESPECIALLY Mak, can protect themselves by clueing her in to how Chelsie was still angling until last night to save T'Kor over her. It wouldn't be hard since multiple people had conversations with Chelsie where she tried to get them to consider evicting Rubina over T'Kor the past couple days.

Well, we'll see. Kimo could spill, but he could respect Chelsie's request to keep it quiet. And she may very well tell T'Kor - I think she probably will because that's just smart jury management.

Eh, I think Angela's actually started playing a better game the past couple weeks. She really did take Chelsie's advice to heart last week and it DID result in her being saved by Makensy. Plus, when Leah was wavering before the Veto Ceremony this week, she was also having NONE of the notion of leaving the noms the same - she is the reason T'Kor is now on the block. And, let's not forget how she was bringing the cray-cray paranoia for the feeds early on. That's some MVP playing here in the BB house to have survived this far and be putting herself in a relatively good position to make at least F6.