[S01.E02: Fifteen Million Merits]

Based on what Abi said - about her just turning 21 and wanting to be assigned to the Air [Something] with her sister...it doesn't appear to be elective. Instead, at 21 everyone is drafted into something; I'd guess some kind of labor - but there are apparently things other than bikes. So far, this has been my favorite episode. I found the whole thing fascinating.

[S02.E07: LCFlutter]

And how is the FBI so gullible that they find the phone in Miranda's luvah's bag and they jump to the conclusion that he's the culpable party?

[S07.E03: The Cell]

Negan makes it easy. He's a protector and provider and you don't have to think anymore; just do what he says and everything will be fine. I can see the appeal in post-apocalyptic zombie-world where everything is a fight for survival. People just have a job, do their job, get fed and clothed and not have to worry much about day-to-day survival anymore. The people who might've had real thoughts of rebellion probably ended up in his circle of lieutenants - with their own taste of power and even better rewards. Those who seemed like real problems were made examples of (or their families/friends were) until yeah - hundreds of people fell in line. I can see how it can be done.

[S06.E08: Chapter 8]

7 minutes ago, Cowgirl said:

What about her brother Matt?  When she filmed her confession, she didn't know he was dead.  Now that he's dead and she's not, she's afraid she'll get all the blame. She doesn't need to protect him anymore. 

But I'm pretty sure he had a solid alibi for when Mason went missing which was why he wasn't suspected in the first place... I could be mis-remembering, though.

[S06.E08: Chapter 8]

On 11/5/2016 at 0:22 AM, In a dream said:

I do believe Lee's confession that she killed Mason, but someone had to help her.  Remember when she was being interrogated by the police and she questioned the cop if he believed she could have hung up Mason alone?  I also think the twist in the story will have something to do with Emily...the little child Lee had that disappeared, prior to Flora.  Emily has only been mentioned once and I feel it is somehow part of the Mason murder, Lee, Flora, and everything else going on. 

Yeah, something was certainly fishy with her confession... the way she said, "It was me. ONLY me. I didn't have any help," makes me wonder why she was so adamant and specific about it. Maybe Flora was possessed and she's the one who actually did it? Lee is trying to protect her? She made it seem obvious that someone else did it or someone else helped her to do it... but I have no idea who else she'd be protecting.

[S01.E04: Dissonance Theory]

"We called it an accident, but um ... I knew Arnold and he was very ... very careful."

So perhaps Arnold's "death" was something Arnold did on purpose. Maybe he's the ghost in the machine?

Maybe he somehow uploaded his consciousness into the network so he could control or speak with the androids directly? Maybe he can put himself into any host at any time? Maybe he's the voice in every host's mind. Maybe it's simply taken him 30 years to figure out how to function inside the network.

Maybe not.

[S01.E04: Dissonance Theory]

I don't think the androids think they're human OR robot. They just are. They follow their narrative. They DO, however, see the guests as "different" from themselves. Delores always refers to them as "newcomers" and talks about them as if they're separate from her and the other hosts. So the argument on whether they should or shouldn't be programmed to believe they're human or not appears to be moot.

[S03.E04: The New Rogues]

Lots of people feel uncomfortable showing sexual affection in front of their parents. I'm not sure I understand why Iris felt it was so important for them to be so "open" about it. Joe understands, sure. Yes, they're together. But Joe practically raised Barry and Iris is still his daughter. Making out in front of your dad is never fun whether you're a teenager, 20-something or an adult. Ew.

Seems out of character for Caitlyn to be hiding this from her friends - she's usually the voice of reason, preaching honestly and suggesting the object of hurt/secrecy turn to their friends for help and support. So unless something else happened in this version of the timeline to make her feel this way, I really don't understand why she feels the need to keep this a secret other than bad writing. It just seems dumb.

[S02.E04: Kubark]

1 hour ago, NorthstarATL said:

So Tovey's character is HIV +? Wouldn't that be a problem with field assignments? I have trouble enough getting meds far enough in advance for vacation trips. I assume CIA jobs are even more spur-of-the-moment. And cute praying guy is gay? Are they sure they are at the CIA and not Grindr?

No, HIV PrEP is preparation... "it's the use of anti-HIV medication that keeps HIV negative people from becoming infected." It's simply to lower risk.

[S02.E04: Kubark]

"No one just picks up Swahili, okay?" <-- So much this. Thank you.

[S01.E02: Chestnut]

17 minutes ago, Broderbits said:

As to whether or not the Hosts feel pain (or any kind of discomfort for that matter): wouldn't it be totally dependent on what is in their programming? And isn't that like wondering if my stove feels pain when I turn the burner on? They are machines! I know we humans love to anthropomorphize but they don't have actual consciousness, just the outward trappings like facial expressions or gestures. The whole point of the show seems to be The Creator giving these machines real life, but they're not at that point yet. 

Then why did we get a line from the scientist (Elsie?) when she was diagnosing Maeve - "She's got some physical discomfort. Put in a request for a full physical at her next rotation."

Obviously they programmed pain receptors so these hosts can actually feel pain. How they process that pain depends on their programming as well, sure - but physical discomfort means physical discomfort and I can't think of another way to define it. And hers was due to an infection. An actual, biological infection.... that a stove can't get.

[S01.E02: Chestnut]

41 minutes ago, Quilt Fairy said:

Wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to go see the Chippendales?

If they still exist in this world... duhn duhn duuuuhhhhhnnnn.....

[S01.E02: Chestnut]

13 minutes ago, Quilt Fairy said:

I agree. The premise is interesting, and I hope there is a payoff for the viewers at the end, although I can't envision the current storyline extending beyond one season.  (How many episodes is the show scheduled for, 10 or 12? ) But so far, I have seen nothing in the park that would appeal to anyone except men. We have seen one actual family and heard one line about "the first time I came with the family".  But Sweetwater is supposed to be the starting place, the mildest level, and yet we've seen innumerable killings there, many out on the street where any passing guest would see them. That can't possibly be the PG-level entertainment, if it really exists. Just wandering around the wilderness, where we saw the family meet Delores, doesn't seem like much fun to me. And while they're out there alone, what if they come upon a group of guests who are going "straight evil" and decide that the woman is a host who can be raped? What happens if there is no real host around to "take one for the team"?

 I have no doubt that many women (myself included) might indulge a fantasy of an interlude with a handsome cowboy,  but I think few are interested in mindless sex with numerous partners followed up by shooting everyone in the saloon as a chaser. That's a man's fantasy. That's a man's idea of the "best vacation ever!"  Not all men of course, probably not most men. But certainly not women. Not to mention the proposed new Odyssey on Red River story of Sizemore's (who I think is really a Sizelittle).  Rape, pillage, vivisection, self-cannibalism??  WTF??????  What kind of people does that appeal to? What kind of world is out there outside the boundaries of Westworld?

While I tend to agree that these fantasies are probably more man-centric, we definitely did see and hear women interested in participating. I remember hearing one say to another something about enjoying the bad boys more. Obviously, there was the woman Maeve threw herself on. But I could also see this a girls' weekend... where they might come as a group to get drunk and grope handsome cowboys. Maybe some go with their hubbies and enjoy a damsel in distress fantasy during which their husband can save them from some terrible fate; maybe some are dominant in life and want to be dominated in Westworld; maybe some enjoy guns and actually want to play the heroine. I wouldn't want to go camping and I would think (stereotypically) more men would prefer a camping and fishing vacation than women - just as more men would prefer a Westworld vacation than women - but that doesn't mean women wouldn't or couldn't enjoy it too.

[S01.E02: Chestnut]

2 minutes ago, izabella said:

They aren't feeling and thinking independently, though, unless they are infected.  They're programming allows for them to "know" when to feel pain or to react in a certain way when something isn't right.  Dolores would not have known if her daddy robot was programmed to be "sick" but she reacted to him being sick the way she was programmed to do when someone is sick, such as by worrying and getting help.  We also witness the robots coming out of their human mode and into robot mode at a command from the control center people, even when in the midst of crying or whatnot. 

That's different from actually feeling something- hence, Dolores swatting the fly when she started having independent thought.  She would not have swatted the fly before, despite it being annoying and crawling on her because she didn't actually feel flies and wasn't programmed to feel them.

Disagree. They feel the flies, they're just not allowed via programming to hurt any living thing. In fact, the show tells us specifically when they're diagnosing Maeve that she's "feeling physical discomfort" and that she should be checked before going back into service. She was having stomach pain. She was diagnosed with stomach pain. They found MRSA. So yeah, they're programmed to be able to feel pain. Why? So they can react and appear more "real".

[S01.E02: Chestnut]

26 minutes ago, BooBear said:

Ahh no. Teddy and the Marshal were put back in service. The only two hoasts taken out of service was Abernathy and the one of the robbers.  Everyone else went back. The new writer wanted to kill some of them off but Ford said no to the new storyline. 

That's not how I understood it. Do you remember the huuuuuge shootout at the end of episode one? Storyteller was all psyched about his big speech, but then a guest killed that guy before he could make it... Yeah, from what I gather, allll those people were pulled from the narrative (10% of the population, Abernathy being among them); Dolores was cleared. Teddy was cleared (he just happened to be shot that day too). That's why we have a new sheriff and a slightly different narrative. The new story the Storyteller pitched in THIS episode (that was shot down by Ford, no pun intended) was just a brand new story to keep the guests entertained - unrelated to the update.

My interpretation, of course.

ETA: Granted, it's possible Bernard cleared a bunch of them - so maybe they're not ALL out of service... but for sure the milk-pouring guy is done because we saw him go into storage with Abernathy and I assumed some others were retired and marched down there with their ding-a-lings flapping in the wind as well.

[S01.E02: Chestnut]

I kind of liked the theory that white-hat-guy might've been young MiB, but the theory that w-h-g is running through a different narrative doesn't hold. He's running through a different narrative (ie no bandits, different sherrif, etc) because they had to kill off 10% off the population due to the faulty update... so both the bandits and that whole narrative have been wiped/edited. THAT'S why w-h-g doesn't get the same story, not because it's from 30 years ago. Just sayin'.

[S02.E02: Lipstick]

32 minutes ago, thuganomics85 said:

At least this episode found a way to get Priyanka Chopra in a sports bra and yoga pants.  They've almost completed the set on this show: that, underwear, bathing suit, and towel.  Sometimes I think that is what the writers spend most of the time trying to on this show: find way to have her sex up the show.

I have to admit, though, there's definitely equal-opportunity sexy. Just as many shirtless man-candy as there is sexy bra-topping and yoga-pantsing. And the guys are actually good looking. Too rare, these days.

[S02.E02: Lipstick]

Actually "Alex Parish is [NOT] in the building" - she's in a bunker underneath it. All she needs to do is bash one of these assholes over the head and throw one of these terrorist-suits on and she's in the mix. How hard could it be?

For some reason, I thought Raina (or was it Nimah) was gonna mark the terrorist with nail dust. I can tell you that file-nail-powder is a bitch to get off. Sharpening her nails so she can cut a bitch makes much more sense. Too bad she was so freaking obvious about it. *sigh*

[S02.E10: Game Day]

Now that I'm thinking it through, I'm wondering if it wasn't $12 mil a year for 3 years. I'm thinking that makes more sense. And yeah, that's quite a hit. Because I think the Dolphins had originally offered him something like $8 or $9 mil/yr and he sniffed at that. Let's just pretend I didn't say anything and you guys can just go ahead and call me dumb and I won't fault you.

On the bright side, my math probably isn't as bad as Spencer's.

I <3 Joe. And not just because he can travel back in time via hot tub.

[S02.E10: Game Day]

1 hour ago, Maysie said:

..and I want to know where Ricky lands and how he feels about going from $36 million to 1.5 because that's quite a drop.

I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the $36 mil was a 10 year contract. ie $3 mil a year x 10 years = $36 mil guaranteed. Whereas, as a free agent, the $1.5 mil is just for a year. And if he does well, stands to make a whole lot more.

Obv. I can't do math, but let's just $3.6 mil a year for 10 years, just so you don't snicker and call me dumb.

[S02.E12: eps2.9_pyth0n-pt2.p7z]

This whole thing comes back to White Rose and the Washington Township plant/project and what all this has to do with Elliot (and possibly Angela) and why it matters so much. Was Washington Township the first step in destroying E Corp - was that the end game? Or is destroying E Corp a step in a bigger plan that results in the "solution" to whatever the Washington Township Project began? Or is destroying E Corp unrelated? Maybe it's just a reward for Elliot - who is an integral part in the Washington Township project?

[S02.E09: Million Bucks In A Bag]

I hate when people make dumb choices because plot. I understand that if Spencer took Andre's deal he'd have to swallow pride and forego revenge and yadda yadda -- but in real life, he'd be getting everything he wants... and really, if he wanted revenge that badly, he could take the offer, build the company back up, build up his client-list, save his money and THEN take the fuck off, taking all your clients with you. I just can't see someone in Spencer's situation being this willfully stupid.

[S06.E10: P.S.L.]

THAT CAN'T BE TRUE -- BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T HAVE A ROOMMATE!
*duuuun duuuunnnnnn*

 

I cackled. Outright CACKLED.

[S02.E08: Laying In The Weeds]

23 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

That was some interesting word parsing going on there between Travis and Andre. So what is the difference between a dick and an asshole, other than the physical one, that is? I generally use both words interchangeably, though I think I would consider assholery more of a chronic condition.

That wasn't Travis and Andre. Andre is Andy Garcia (the finance competition/Spencer's rival). The guys Travis was talking to were all team owners; the Dick/Asshole discussion, specifically, appeared to be with Christopher McDonald who plays the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Travis seemed to make the distinction as being a dick was more obnoxious and annoying -- whereas being an asshole was a serious and potentially evil personality flaw.

I REALLY don't care about Tracey and their goodbye kiss made me uncomfortable. Zero chemistry. Ugh.

I'm not sure why Spencer isn't more concerned about getting his registration in order instead of collecting $12mil. Seems like if he can just get that handled, AMS might even hire him back. How can he even have a successful NFL financial-coaching business without it? I'm so confused.

[Flip Or Flop - General Discussion]

Best video on vocal fry I've seen... And I do think it's a "real" made-up thing, it's definitely measurable and Christina certainly suffers from the affliction.