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Okay, after today's episode I think @Js Nanais right, JG is using AI to script this show. I would like to add he has most likely purchased the intellectual property of two defunct soaps: Dallas & Dark Shadows for an app to spew out content. The Emperor of Genoa City, TGVN, is currently being portrayed with an assortment of 1970's tropes. An amalgamation of JR and Barnabas Collins. A complete megalomaniac and malignant narcissistic who runs every show and like JR, is so not accountable to anyone or anything, that he can keep a dungeon with prisoners in his basement, like Barnabas Collins. After trying to accept this, the notion of Summer being Harrison's mother was attempted to be force fed to viewers by the responses of Nikki, Victor, Nick, and Phyllis to his rescue. While watching all this unfold (on what has now become my guilty secret of a show) I mused about what someone I love, or respect, would do should they ever come upon me watching this tripe? Unlike the Newmans or Abbotts, I hope my rescue and rehabilitation would be swift. BTW, does Abby know her mom has gone berserk yet? *ETA: Aren't the Newmans now doing the same thing to Harrison and the audience that Jordan did to Claire? Trying to brainwash him and us that Summer is his mother, and that the fact his biological mother, who he likely spent the first 4 years of his life with, Tara Locke is irrelevant? What is Mrs. Martinez baking into his cookies anyway?
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10 hours ago, Js Nana said:
This coming May 8th will be the 11th anniversary of Jeanne "Katherine Chancellor" Cooper's passing.
I met her at a fan "Meet & Greet" at the 1984 New Orleans World Fair. She was lively and lovely, and unlike the current cast, was immaculately coifed, groomed, and in gorgeous garb. A great memory, that has remained intact for 40 years now!
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21 hours ago, Js Nana said:
As far as the viewership is concerned, the days of Victor Newman, King of the Universe, Decider of the Fates of Others, are long over - he's a toothless lion with halitosis that can fell a rhinoceros.
Well, today's episode really brought this post of yours home to roost for sure, @Js Nana Jack and Victor going in all hard as GC's new gangsta thugs, was like some parody of a 1930's B crime noir flick. When they were sourcing the location of the diner, the driver confessed, with veiled references to it being in a shady "residential" area, my drink got spewed! Then, Victor telling the driver to leave town to save his life from the other geriatric villian known as Jordan was just ridiculous. Why would he have to leave town if this trio of caped crusaders (formerly known as corporate demi-gods) are going to "end" her? And did they really have to pull out every prop the set decorators had in their storage lockers in Burbank to decorate Victoria's new living room? Calling it like I see it...the Tacky House.
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16 hours ago, lgprimes said:
So when VictorNewman and the Abbott boys were talking about how Jordan must have an accomplice, and then Nikki asked Victoria where Cole was… did anybody elsés minds go there? Just me??
That would actually be a fun twist and explain why Cole has zero chemistry with Victoria.I went there last Tuesday in a post about Cole. I also feels it strains my credulity that Jordan is always one step ahead of hospital employees, corrections officers, the security teams of NE and Jabot, and the GVN. The idea she is a one woman mastermind is a huge stretch. I kinda hope it is Cole. At least he would have been doing something in the last few weeks, besides hanging on to Victoria like a human "barnaCOLE."
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I know we wanted JG to drop his ridiculous corporate intrigues storylines, but now it's even more clear since he's moved on to this narrative of "frayed family lines," how 2 dimensional he has let these characters become. Consumed by the villainy of Jordan and her kidnappings at present would be Jack, Kyle, Diane, Summer, Phyllis, Nick, Victoria, Cole, Nikki, Victor, and Michael. Who is managing all the corporate threats to Newman Enterprises or Jabot now? Adam is currently enmeshed in Connor's OCD treatment, and Ashley has gone over the falls with her DID. Now, exactly what "supporting" staff have we ever seen interacting with the principals in either of the businesses, that would allow viewers to think things are being managed in everyone's absence? On top of all that, is the force feeding of Claire's character arc on the audience, in addition to expecting a suspension of disbelief and acceptance of all of Harrison's new "faux family," seemingly erasing the fact of his biological mother, Tara Locke. As for the powers of Jordan, they have strained all of my credulity. The comings and goings of two elite families being so accessible on a 24 hour basis to only one person is just nonsensical. Hope JG has had the good sense to have written a mole into the scripts for Jordan, to 'splain all this.
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9 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:
Yeah, I'd love to see a list of "venues" on Danny's super awesome not-to-be-missed tour. The Villages? Um, I'm thinkin' more like nursing homes. Anyone remember "Soapdish", where Kevin Kline's character is so down & out, he's performing in nursing homes? And they're yelling, while he's performing, "What did he say?" And screaming at him to talk louder. Me thinks that's the reality of Danny's tour . . .
I also thought that doc was soooo emotionless & cold & clinical, she seemed right out of a Twilight Zone ep. But then I thought this lady seems so AI generated. What if those 2 dummies left the kid at some fake place? I guess the PSA means no, but I have my doubts. Uh-oh, that would mean I agree with Adam, and worlds may have just collided.
Let's not forget old rock stars that can't get any more big gigs, sail away to perform on cruise ships. In 1992 I took a Christmas cruise right after my husband died with our teenage son. The "Archies" were on board and sang "Sugar, Sugar." My son and I still think it was quite campy, and laugh about it. @boes I don't think Phyllis as a probationer can leave the state without permission to tour with Danny. I suggest he take Ashley. He'd have the company of 3 women that way....maybe Ashley could even do a cover of "I'm Every Woman," with his band?
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I guess no one ever told the wanna be femme fatale akà Phyllis that most men are not attracted to bitter nagging hags. In her 50's? She should have that figured out. Chelsea "me, me, me-ing" about Connor reveals her narcissistic personality hasn't changed at all. I guess poisoning Ray, faking being an invalid in a wheelchair, a rooftop suicidal gesture, inpatient psychiatric treatment, and the new sibling reveal shouldn't have traumatized Connor. IMO, they're lucky OCD is the only problem he's manifested. Today's episode with Chelsea panicking to 1st Adam then Billy, and Phyllis barging in with her kid's former employers, was as good a show as any about two mothers who only see their kids as extension of their own egos, in addition to lacking any boundaries.
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12 hours ago, MsMalin said:
When I was a child my brother would tell me my real parents didnt love me so they put me up for adoption and I was not my parents real child. Talk about sibling rivalry!!!😂😂😂
If I were Diane I think I would've had enough and bitch slapped Nikki today. What time was it supposed to the be, like 9 AM? And was Nikki drunk driving all night? Why is Count Orlok unaware of her whereabouts?
If Jack is not an alcoholic but is a recovering pill addict, is he qualified to be Nikkei sponsor? I would think though they may intersect, there are differences in the 2 addictions that he can't address. In any event, he is not helping much. He's too soft. For gods sake someone please put her in rehab. Sorry if I sound heartless but I would be fed up with her. My father was hard core alcoholic and at a certain point your sympathy disappears and you get pissed off. Today's show was that point for me.
I agree about Jack misrepresenting any version of an AA sponsor. Doesn't he still drink alcohol? Technically he's not even sober. I think if he'd thrown in a reference to attending AA meetings BEFORE Nikki's relapse, collapse, or prolapse, his sponsorship might be more credible. I am wondering if EB is sicker than we think or planning to retire? In that scenario, Jack Abbott would be the only man in GC worthy of squiring the great Nikki Newman. I also.wondered if IRL the mother of the actor formerly playing Harrison might have pulled him from the show, knowing the kidnapping card was about to be played? I can't remember how involved he was in portraying his bio mom Tara disappearing with the Feds, or the death of his faux father Ashton Locke.
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Florist delivery driver was probably the same one that drove the ambulance for Phyllis and Jeremy Stark. I still haven't figured out who the real morgue corpse in there was, same as who was the baby that everyone believed was the deceased Eve/Claire? JG has massive sinkholes in a lot of his storylines.
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11 hours ago, ezzylin said:
I'm in Canada, so I've already seen Tuesday's US episode. To all the US viewers on here, I strongly encourage you to watch the show today, it was IMO, one of the best episodes of the show in a very long time.
I'm not a fan of Josh Griffith, but I must give credit where credit is due. He was credited as writer for this episode along with Amanda L. Beall, Jeff Beldner, and Marin Gazzaniga. Bravo to all of them, as well as the actors- IMO, this episode was worthy of an Emmy submission.
Here's a blast of fresh cold Canadian air from me for your assessment of today's episode. I don't care who wrote it, it sucked. The actress playing Summer was chewing the scenery, the other members of the ensemble looked shocked...not from the storyline but the inanity of the lines they had to perform in response to her. BTW, has anyone here got a reason why Cole can be ruled out as a collaborator of Auntie J's? He's never over exerted about her shenanigans, he's either a stoner, or just needs to go and take a neverending nap like Ashley. To date IMO, he's not advanced, any storyline or brought anything of value to the show. Yawn.
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Can hardly wait to see Auntie Jaunty getting Eve and Harrison down the steps of Abbott mansion, and out of the front door for transport, lol. Is she going to drag them down by their legs, or hair? Clunk, clunk, clunk. Will she do a fireman's blanket carry rescue? I won't be surprised if the next time I tune in that the whole "grand escape" has happened off screen, and they are all ensconced somewhere on one of the show's lost sets. A place that's abandoned, decrepit, and desolate, where no one has gone to for at least a year.....Like the Grand Phoenix?
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Just laughed out loud when Nikki praised Victor for teaching her that "with love, anything is possible." Yes, my s/o only owned an auto body shop, unlike our corporation owning master of the universe Victor Newman, who found his wife in a different sort of body shop altogether. Still, Victor's love is so superior to that of my s/o for me, that it gives Nikki the glory of being able to hide flacons of vodka, and then chug-a-lug-lug all day long. I am feeling sort of glad my s/o doesn't love me so much that he's as oblivious as Victor is, to nose up Nikki.
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51 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:
Wasn't Summer in the jazz lounge earlier with Chance and then later the Newmans? And wasn't she just having secksay times with Chance up in her hotel room? These never-ending GC days are ridiculous.
Jack, Sharon can't have an objective opinion about Ashley. Did you forget the whole Baby Hope vs. Baby Faith saga? Sharon has personal history with everyone in the room, usually involving one of her past romantic entanglements.
Heh, when they were trying to keep her from leaving, mean alter Ashley should've picked up that imitation Tiffany lamp and started swinging. There had to have been more than two ways out of the Abbott manse, besides the front door or the kitchen.
Diane was right, Ashley needed to go to the hospital ASAP. She was clearly having a major brain malfunction.
Looked to me like Sharon might've had some work done. Her nose was different. Narrower and more pointy. 😼
Traci reminisced that Ashley wanted to grow up to be a professional go-go dancer. As opposed to an amateur go-go dancer, lol?
Wah, wah, wah, Kyle, it's so hard being a nepo baby. Stop deferring to Diane as your mommy, take off the kid gloves, and handle your Jabot bizniz.
Yeah, Billy relating how he'd had DID and was successfully treated for it was a surprise. For once his old sage routine was actually helpful and relevant.
Honest question here though, it feels kind of funny. Don't each of the identities have the disorder? And if it is identity based, wouldn't a person always have it as opposed to having had it once? Seems like it would be have to managed for life, rather than cured?
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Anybody else feel a deep sense of second hand embarrassment for JG scripting Sharon to help Ashley's DID, and the actors who were forced to portray that as being a sane decision? Ashley needed to be taken by her family or law enforcement to an ER and get involuntarily committed to a psych facility. She made homicidal threats. She is being presented as a danger to herself and others. Way beyond the skill set of coffee house barista nouveau corporate mogul Sharon.
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11 hours ago, boes said:
Looks like we got part of ED's emmy reel submission out of the way today. Glad that parts over.
Sorry, but I really can't tell the difference between Original Recipe Ashley and Mean Ashley. OR Ashley doesn't usually go after Traci so hard, but it's not unheard of, either. As for Jack and ButtBiscuit, she's been a lot rougher for a lot longer on both of them. Diane's been a recent target of OR Ashley as well.
If Show really wants to differentiate between OR Ashley and Mean Ashley, we need to see Mean Ashley telling Dom his drum playing sucks, ask Devon if that's his head or the Magic 8 Ball and tell darling daughter Abby to shut her mouth before flies lay eggs in it.
Then, MAYBE, just maybe, we could tell the difference. Or not.
And maybe, just maybe, as you say @boes, we could be given some of the motivating underlying emotions that are creating (one Identity of the poorly acted) Ashley's compulsive murderous thoughts about Tucker? Ashley was percolating these thoughts even when he and Audra briefly parted ways. Has JG informed anyone aɓout the "why" of Ashley's homicidal mania surrounding Tucker? At least Auntie Jordan has an excuse.
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1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:
Wow, I was surprised they brought up Victoria's engagement to Neil back in the day. It wasn't mentioned at all when she was boinking his much younger nephew Nate last year.
Tucker McCall's Bimbo Girlfriend. (New from Mattel! 😈) Good one, mean alter Ashley.
Has Victor shrunk or has Chance always been so much taller than him?
IMO Lily's right on one point. When you get fired you don't get to define the conditions of your departure. Daniel's lucky they still let him in the building. However, Lily is being maybe a bit spiteful about the Princess Luisa game.
Oh FFS, the Newmans congratulating themselves again for creating the jazz lounge in Neil's honor. AGAIN. And how they pretty much expect Lily and Devon be beholden to them forever because of it. Ugh.
I liked Victoria's dress. Nice solid jewel tone for her.
So Sally and Audra have scheduled get togethers now. Yay!
Lol, Daniel swinging his d!ck at Lily. Heather's d!ck too. Lily better bring her special d!ck-chopping hatchet when they go to court, hah hah.
The Newman chef had to fix Nikki and Victor a random late supper. Pssht, I hope he threw a couple of frozen pot pies in the microwave for them and called it a night.
Claire. You can't expect everyone to like you, even if you are related to them. Get over yourself and stop trying use people's kids to clean up your reputation.
Wait, what!? First, Tucker was allowed to leave the GCAC! Second, he's going to be a part of Ashley's intervention at the Abbott manse! This is my head exploding! 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Daniel can swing the lawyer he layed behind Lily's back all he wants. Is not Amanda still the attorney that reps CW? My money would be on Amanda whipping Heather like butter and winning. This DID storyline for Ashley started out as a get corporate "revenge" strategy on Tucker. If whichever of these inane personalities kill Tucker, and set Audra up, how does that work, JG? When Tucker's dead, he's not going to be in any shape, or place to admire whichever of Ashley's masterful personalities' plots, is he? I am not buying the actress playing Claire as being so "Gee Whiz" young. She looks early 30's and over botoxed to me, coupled with the way she is playing the character with such a flat affect.
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Thanks so much for this diversion when it's been needed so much! I knew Mariah had the grit to do it after dealing with Stitch, and how shabbily Abby treated her once she'd birthed a baby for her and Chance. Or Devon. Whatever. Living well is the best revenge and you've served it well, Mariah!
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8 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:
Yeah, I was seriously considering who the heck in GC could be a good parent to Connor -- and man, it gave me a headache. Never for a moment did I consider Vic . . . er, cuz wouldn't that make Drinki his new step-mom? Yikes, wouldn't that be transferring the kid from one shitty situation to another?
Did someone say above that Amelia is "light-hearted"? Sheesh, you'd never know it from Victoria, who never even cracks a smile, let alone ever shows the slightest bit of a sense of humor.
So wait, Vic & Drinki are celebrating 40 years of whatever -- so that would mean Nick & Victoria are less than 40? Pardon me while I contain my belly laughs now . . .
Yeah, nothing says practical and emotional support for your actively relapsed alcoholic spouse, like having a 40th anniversary party, where everyone surrounding them will be knocking back the booze! Perhaps some champagne toasts at the beginning and end of this debacle? And the icing on the cake is its all in the service of catching the psycho that caused the relapse of the alcoholic spouse in the first place? Make it make sense, oh wait, it's JG scripting Y&R. My bad.
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6 hours ago, Denize said:
Next time she visits Jack she's going to bring a bigger purse to steal a full-size bottle or two.
Yeah, well Nikki's supposed to be GC's resident geriatric "Uptown Girl," so JG should give wardrobe the $ to buy her the Louis Vuitton Neverfull tote to hide her bottles. Sadly, the only thing Nikki will ever be full of is herself. So let her load up on all the vodka she sneaks into her designer tote, and we can all laugh while Miss Uptown becomes Miss Upchuck. Sorry, but if JG isn't going to treat her alcoholism like a serious illness, I'm at least going to do my best to camp it up.
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Mariah! Lily has "lost" 2 guys to 2 different women. I think she might have a pretty rough time convincing anyone that another woman should "win"....again.
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Someone needs to clue Jack in that before he decided to cape for Nikki, he needed to inform her that she owed his wife an apology for the way she and her coven treated Diane's return to GC. Retrospectively, it was all for naught, wasn't it? No one seems to be holding the feet of Phyllis, Lauren, Ashley, or Nikki to the fire for that, do they? Now today, when Nikki went all "nose up" and talked down to Diane, Jack should have slammed her face into that table, and told her, "Help yourself, Sicki. You can't respect help from me very much, while you disrespect my wife." Sorry, but while Jordan may have got Nikki back on the sauce, it's Nikki's entitled and megalomaniac mindset that is keeping her on it.
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Lily and Mariah!
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I loved Jack (not) for advocating that his sister be left to her own devices "Shes an adult, Traci!" only to run off to prop up Nikki, and feed her insatiable entitled ego. He's being portrayed as a total buffoon. It seemed like today was part of the lead up to Tucker being murdered or disappearing. It's hard to say, either way the GC PD has been dismantled, there's no one even left to answer a 911 call. Yesterday Tucker was all in earnest while warning Jack about Ashley. Today, he is yearning to reunite with Devon, and professing his undying love for Audra. Not one iota of his trademark snark, or irrepressible rascal self remains to be seen. If TSJ is taken off the show, that will be one less reason for me to watch. I'd say that JG has put this whole show into a state of inertia, but that would be giving him way too much credit for what amounts to be no action at all.
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4 hours ago, lightninggirl said:
Oh, thank goddess - this incredibly boring storyline with Claire (made boring by The Moustache, Nikki's 'horrified' facial expressions, BananaBreath lurking around the corner like a vulture, and Victoria and Cole) is FINALLY addressing the fact that the seemingly single Cole and definitely single Victoria haven't even looked twice at each other. I just wish that someone would style J. Eddie Peck so that he doesn't look like he's living in a cabin with no running water or electricity.
Cole looks to me like he lives in a van down by the river. You know, the guy everyone warns their kids not to be when they grow up? He's another one saying that he's giving up his "old life." Anybody know what that was yet?
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Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
in The Young And The Restless
Can you please do something about all the ads on this site that I find triggering and hurtful? The ads for cars make me anxious, I can't afford an EV. The one directing me to another site where I could find out "who 25+ actors from the past were that were gay," reminded me of the pain of my best friend who had AIDS. He was afraid to tell his family, I took care of him until he died, with only me by his side. I dont think your readers would want to go to a site offering to "out" people who have died. That feels morbid and salacious to me. The one ad for "Providence" luxury residences, is triggering for me, because it says it is a gated and secure community, and it made me feel fearful, because while I live in a very culturally diverse neighborhood, it is economically challenged, and a high crime area. Would the ad that offers "12,000 free coins" link readers to a gambling site? That could cause someone with a gambling addiction to relapse. So, I am really hoping you can intercede with whoever decides that whatever ads that are placed on this site now, have been thoroughly assessed and vetted, so that the companies they are promoting also support our and your DEI values, and not potentially hurtful, or triggering to your readers. I am sure no one wants the monetization of Primetimers by companies not willing to uphold or adhere to your high standards.