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Skylar was probably put on blockers at a later age. You have to remember that when boys start puberty they have about 1-2 years where they only get genital growth and development. And then then all the other changes happen. Skylar was probably blocked after her genitals grew some but before her voice changed and facial hair appeared. Jazz was put on blockers as soon as the doctor noticed the slightest bit of growth. And too be quite honest if you look at some of the old documentaries about Jazz, (and I mean the candid footage of the family, not the staged interview portions) she wasn't that feminine when she was younger either. There was really no difference between her and her brothers behavior.

I have noticed this as well. If you watch closely you will notice that Jeanette picks out Jazz's clothes or tries to influence what she wears a lot. Case in point, the sweet 16 party episode. When the family was leaving Jeanette tells Jazz she should wear heels and Jazz says that she doesn't wear heals in an annoyed voice. Also on Jeannette's youtube account. She has an old documentary the family did when Jazz was 8 year old. And even back then she was trying to get Jazz to wear a dresses while Jazz didn't seem very enthusiastic about it.

I would also like to ask, can we honestly say Jazz is/was free to make her own decisions in regards to this transition? Was/is she really free to change her mind?? Lets just imagine if Jazz had seconds thoughts. How can she go back now? Just imagine the consequences. All the adults around her have scoffed at the idea that she may ever change her mind from the very beginning. Her being Transgender has been accepted as an undeniable fact from the time she was 3 years old. They have fought legal battles, they have allowed her to undergo risky medical procedures. That's how much they believe it. If Jazz were to desist, it would crush her parents entire worldview. And not just theirs, but Jazz's too. Because Jazz has always believed her being transgender is an undeniable fact as well. That she was "born that way" So if she started having doubts, can you imagine the inner turmoil it would cause? It would be the equivalent of finding out the earth is really flat. Ans I haven't even mentioned the broader consequences. Her parents set her up as a spokesperson for the trans movement at an early age. They put an enormous weight on her shoulders. She was told from the age of 6 that she was "saving lives" and "helping other kids" Her parents allowed her to read letters from other kids who told her that SHE stopped them from killing themselves. I don't know about you all, but If I believed I was stopping people from committing suicide it would be very hard for me walk away. Especially if I was a kid. Just imagine the guilt. Once again I'm NOT saying Jazz is having second thoughts. I'm just saying if she ever did it would be very difficult for her to turn back. And I can easily see how being in that situation would cause some of the psychological issues she is having now.

Glad to see my comment was reviewed positively. I guess I will stay. No this does not count as puberty. Puberty is an internal process that starts in the brain. Puberty blockers not only stop the body from changing but it stops the brain development as well. Jazz still has a prepubescent brain, which may explain her immaturity. Perhaps her brain is a bit more feminized because of the estrogen, but that just means she has a feminized prepubescent brain, not an adult brain. Giving a prepubescent child estrogen does not turn them into an adult woman. The hormones simply cause the body to react in a certain way. Just like how some babies are born with breasts and can even lactate and some newborn baby girls can even have "periods" because of the hormones they are exposed to in their mothers womb. No one would ever consider these changes in newborns to be puberty. Estrogen will not give Jazz a sex drive anymore than it would give a newborn baby washed in it's mothers hormones a sex drive. Because again, the sex drive comes from the brain and her brain has been prevented from developing. Even masturbation will be a problem for Jazz because the penis develops more nerve endings during puberty. This is one of the reasons why boys become obsessed with it during puberty. It becomes more pleasurable to touch. Jazz will never feel the same level of sensation as an adult male because she has had no development. And on top of that estrogen dulls the sensation in the penis. It's also worth mentioning that whatever Jazz feels now, is the most she will ever feel after the surgery, The testosterone cream might help, but even then. That still won't give her a sex drive. It will just give her more sensation down there.

This is my last attempt to get my opinion into this thread. then I will not be posting on this site any longer. I will say what i have to say and leave. It seems to me like jazz is purposely doing things to avoid getting the surgery, while at the same time claiming she wants it so bad. For example, she says no to every option they give her to help since she doesn't have enough material. She refuses therapy even though its required. She says she can't lose the the weight even though its required Whether this is all conscience or unconscience is something to think about. With that I bid you all farewell.

Deep down Jazz doesn't want the surgery. Jazz wants out of this whole mess. That is why she has turned down every single option they have given her for the surgery That is why she is binge eating, She is not going to lose the weight. She is using the weight gain as a protective shield so she can't get the surgery. Cause if she can't get it, she won't have to admit that she doesn't want it. And she won't have to admit why she doesn't want it. Poor kid. Jeanette ruined her life. She's trapped. ETA: Did anyone else notice that jazz sorta admitted she doesn't like having boobs in tonight episode? It was very subtle and easy to miss, but it was there. Makes you wonder what is really giving her dysphoria.