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3 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:
Mrs. Graham's granddaughter. Who inherited the Reverend's house. The one who gave Roger the article that stated Jamie and Claire died in a fire.
She didn't inherit the house because Mrs Graham didn't own it. I think she and her fiance bought it.
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I had no idea that this was the episode that Murtagh returns but I knew as soon as I realized that the blacksmith was important who it would turn out to be. I might have squealed several times.
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I think Murtagh is just on the Ridge for a visit and to deliver whatever it is he made for Jamie from the candlestick. Surely, just wanting to see Claire is enough motivation for a visit.
I have to say that I'm concerned - I don't trust the writers to not amp up the conflict to unreasonable levels. On the other hand, maybe it is Murtagh who convinces Jamie to side with the colonists. I'm kind of psyched that despite being book readers, we really have no idea where any of this is going. Or at least how we'll get there. That's kind of nifty.
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The cabin bugs, but it's consistent with the set designer's tendency to make everything fancier than it really should be. Lallybroch was a farmhouse, not a mansion. The interior of Jocasta's house looked nothing like plantation houses of its time. And so the cabin is way nicer - and much better equipped - than is reasonable given the resources and time available.
And thank you to whoever wondered why Murtagh never wrote to Jenny. That's a huge WTF for me that I hope is explained at some point.
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On 11/29/2018 at 11:08 AM, ganesh said:
Yeah, but there's nothing stopping them from making it 30 by 30 except for time.
Winter is coming.
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1 hour ago, Cdh20 said:
I have not read as far as this book, but I am happy to know that eventually they share that bit of info about Claire with more people! I was surprised they didn't tell Jenny & Ian last season.
As I recall, they told Jenny & all of Jenny's kids about it when they were at Lallybroch when Ian was dying. That would be book 7. However, I had the impression that no one really believed her but she had to try to convince Michael not to stay in France for more than another 10 years or so.
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49 minutes ago, Petunia846 said:
Isn't it true that in the book it takes much longer before they know that Jocasta is basically blind? Or am I making that up? I was kind of surprised when she just straight up announced it at the dock. I thought she had set things up with her butler so most people had no idea. If that is a change, maybe that's why they didn't think to have Claire ask, because you're right, it makes sense that she would want to. Of course the way things played out here, they don't get off to the best start... Oh well. I might be imagining that.
I think they're about thirty minutes into things - they're in the parlor having drinks when Claire finally figures it out
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So my favorite fashion/pop culture bloggers recap this show. Here are links to the recaps for the first two episodes of the season
https://www.gofugyourself.com/outlander-the-ballad-of-the-dread-pirate-bonnet-11-2018
https://www.gofugyourself.com/outlander-the-ballad-of-river-run-11-2018#comments
But beware - the writer is not deeply versed in the minutia of the show nor has she read the books. If you can set aside whatever tendency you might have to take the show really seriously, you will enjoy them because they are hilarious. It's actually refreshing to get a fresh viewpoint on the material. I occasionally bristle when she gets some fact or other wrong, but that's my problem, not the writer's.
That said, the recap of the last episode is thoughtful and smart.
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Ugh. I guess it was okay for teevee but I really didn't enjoy it.
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5 hours ago, WatchrTina said:
(I know some people think she talks about them too much but I appreciate her enthusiasm for her craft.)
I would listen to hour-long podcasts of her doing nothing but talking about the costumes.
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3 hours ago, GingerMarie said:
So I just rewatched the first episode and as usual I missed so much when I do that first 'power' watch. Start to finish it was great. I know everyone is talking 'bad' wigs but I see it differently. Who really had good hair back then? That would be no one. So the wigs are not as polished but why should they be and well that is OK. I did make a comment about Jamie and Crew not having any weapons. I do understand that any weapons for the Scots have been banned for so long but again that does not equate to not having common sense in not having something for protection. So I don't get their lack of forethought in having something for protections. S. Bonnet was charming and they let their guard down. Hopefully they won't repeat that mistake again. The chemistry between Claire and Jamie is spot on. They belong together and I felt that during the entire episode. As usual the song choices for any shows can make people really happy or not so much. This was a great choice. American the Beautiful. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. PEACE
I don't think people are complaining that their wigs/hair are messy or not polished. The problem is that they look very much like wigs, which takes people out of the story. Unlike most people, it's really Claire's wigs that bug me. Jamie's just look like his hair's a mess.
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16 hours ago, ruby24 said:
What famous scene is this? Is it the one on the rocks next to the river?
If that's it, I'm guessing it was because of the weather. It was obviously cold where they were filming. Am I right?
That's what I have read elsewhere.
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34 minutes ago, ruby24 said:
Not surprised it looks like they're going to make Claire far more vigorously anti-slavery than she was in the book. In the book she was just uncomfortable with it and Jamie says to her at one point that he can just tell by her face that she doesn't like it and that's why they wouldn't keep the plantation. But there were some instances where she felt guilty for liking to be pampered and dressed by them too, and I KNEW they weren't going to have that shit onscreen. Brianna is even less conflicted about it when she shows up and it's mentioned that she gets used to having them there to do things for her. No way that's the case either, she'll probably be just as verbally against it as Claire.
One of the most decent things Brianna does in the book is not let any of the slaves empty her chamber pot. But everything else, yeah.
Part of the issue might be that Jocasta was, relatively speaking, decent to the people she owned which probably made it easier to ignore the fact that she owned those people.
I'm nervous about how this plays out during the season because I don't entirely trust the showrunners to find the right balance. But I guess we'll see.
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On 12/24/2017 at 6:01 AM, AEMom said:
I've actually watched enough of The People's Court to know that the tenant (in this case her niece) were responsible for cleaning out the apartment. If they hadn't, Fiona could have sued in small claims court for a reasonable amount to cover her having to clean it herself.
Never mind. This was covered.
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53 minutes ago, taanja said:
Haha! I guess I meant the author feels the need for big messy drama all the time for Claire and Jamie. Like seriously. I only ever read the first book because mainly -- when I found out the next book was a 20 year !! 20 freakin' years separation!!!????!!! -- I was like-- way too much drama.
But I love the actors and I love the scenery and the costumes so I keep watching.
The author isn't the problem, if indeed it is actually a problem. The books are chock full of day to day stuff where they're living their lives and the drama, what there is of it, is pretty low-key. That's why the books are 1000 pages long.
The problem is translating that to television and making a show that a lot of people want to watch. I could read all day about Claire puttering around in her surgery, grinding things and examining bread mold. Hell, I would enjoy watching that, too. However, most people wouldn't.
One of my least favorite things about the show is that every single conflict is amplified. It wasn't enough that Jenny was skeptical of Claire and a little bit leery of her when she came back 20 years later. No, they had Jenny go full-on shrew to the point where Ian had to say something to her . Get ready to have Claire & Jocasta having a lot more conflict than there was in the books.
Right or wrong, the showrunners think all this is necessary. And they probably aren't wrong. I heard a lot of people complaining that this last episode was boring until the attack on the boat.
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On 11/2/2018 at 3:35 PM, andromeda331 said:
I hadn't realized they told people already before the wedding. When I first heard I was surprised that they chose then to tell everyone they were expecting. Then I realized it was probably the last time they'd all be together for awhile they all have busy schedules and Harry and Meghan were about to leave on a long trip. It makes sense they'd chose then.
Never mind. Dead horses and such.
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23 minutes ago, Annj said:
Well, the first episode had a hard act to follow. Last season we all held our breath as Claire traveled back thru the stones to Jamie.
I was more than a little bothered by the way they threw one of my favorite scenes hastily together sooner than its appearance in Drums of Autumn.
I am am talking about the heartbreakingly beautiful moment where Jamie tells Claire that he loved her even when he was dead.
In the book it is a much more drawn out moment. Claire fears Jamie’s death because she has already seen his headstone in Scotland. He lovingly reassured her. It is one of the most romantic passages in all the books, IMO.[/quote]
The bit with the headstone was omitted with the show so it wouldn't make sense to bring it up now.
23 minutes ago, Annj said:And “where’s the heat????!!!” Is it bugging anyone else that the sweltering heat plays such a part at the opening of the story, but in the show it must’ve been chilly weather when they filmed the Carolinas in Scotland.
Everyone is bundled in coats and shawls. In the book they are dripping sweat. And that was what made the missing “rock love scene” so amazing. There was a sexual tension building between Claire and Jamie, even in the graveyard! Morbid, I know, but there was a build up nonetheless. [/quote]
The producers have said that they aren't going to make the cast pretend that it's sweltering when they're actually filming outside in winter. Maril Davis basically said that they are ignoring weather as much as they can.
23 minutes ago, Annj said:And I am confused about when the attack happens in the book. It was definitely out of place. [/quote]
The attack happens in the book on the boat going to River Run, so it's not out of place.
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52 minutes ago, Lady Iris said:
Just had a thought, given Claire's knowledge of history, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to pack up and move somewhere that isn't going to have known upcoming wars? Like...Canada?
North Carolina wasn't really a hotbed of revolutionary activity.
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Here's a link to the AV Club's recap/review. It contains spoilers so beware
https://tv.avclub.com/outlander-s-alchemy-remains-spectacular-in-its-hotly-an-1830211151
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It's always Claire's wigs that bother me. I think I'm so used to seeing Sam Heughan with terrible hair that I barely notice, but Claire's wigs at the end of last season were horrendous.
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I think that the Ray Charles song at the end of the episode was freaking brilliant. I'm not sure any other version of that song would have wielded the irony hammer quite as well as that one. Before I saw the fan reactions, I thought that maybe the irony hammer was a bit too big, too on the nose, but enough people seem to have completely missed the point of it that I guess not.
I was dreading that particular scene because it's a part of the books that I hate. I expected to simply endure it as it played out but holy freaking shit! I was sobbing by the end of it. And without that music? Not nearly as much emotional whammy.
As for the ring: the producers pointed out, rightly, that a simple gold band was not nearly distinctive enough to capture Brianna's notice.. There is no way someone simply walking by would be able to read, much less decipher, an inscription on the inside of a ring on a table inside of a dark tavern. This is an example of the show taking something that was really kind of eye-rolling in the book and making it more plausible.
The first episode gives me kind of high hopes about the rest of the season.
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A banjo maybe? I think I read somewhere that there is one in there somewhere but I'm not sure if that's what's playing over the bathing bit.
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2 hours ago, WatchrTina said:
Thanks for posting that Nidratime. I started to watch but then quickly realized that they were going to discuss the episode the audience had just watched. I stopped watching as soon as Cait made the tiniest reference to how the episode ended. I'm saving this for Sunday and will watch it as soon as I see the episode. If anyone else likes to stay totally spoiler-free, they might also want to wait.
EDITED TO ADD: Aaaaand now I realize that I am in the Spoiler thread and not the Media thread (as I had thought) so the wee spoiler I exposed myself to is totally my fault. Carry on!
I came across the same thing on the Outlander Facebook page and had to stop watching quickly. I watched a little bit longer than you did because I was hoping someone who make the moderator stop asking questions about the episode but no one did. There should have been warnings because I learned way more than I wanted to.
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I love the Outlander books, I really do, but I think coming in second is ridiculous. Just because Outlander fans are fanatics doesn't mean that it deserves to rank that high. But then, I don't actually think the DaVinci Code belonged within miles of the top 100. So I guess if it's a popularity contest, fine. But as literature? I'm not so sure.
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Show Spoilers and Book Talk
in Outlander
"Granny's muff"! LOL.