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2 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

My latest speculation (based on the EW photo) is that they are in separate dream worlds and that the wedding (if it is O/L) is Sara's dream.

I think Oliver's dream (based on BTS pics) is in part a reenactment of 307 with a different ending. Obviously his parents being alive is probably another part of it.

Maybe the Queens are part of Thea's dream world? And he goes in it to get her?

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4 minutes ago, way2interested said:

Grrr. The fact that they might be using footage over three episodes for one 30 sec promo makes it hard to make a timeline for this crossover. Like, the stuff at that airport warehouse has got to be from Flash since it has the introductions (along with "Best. Team-up. Ever." I'm guessing, since HR is there), the shot of Deathstroke has got to be from Arrow, but other that, kind of stumped how they can drag one VOTW for 3 episodes. I guess Tuesday has the mind control hero vs. hero fights, Wednesday has dream stuff, and Thursday is ultimate takedown? 

That's my assumption. I think that's the problem with having a 4-show crossover (so I guess we should be glad it's not one villain over 4 episodes?). But it does seem to give the show the time to have its "love letter" to whatever for Arrow's 100th with the dream stuff. 

 Also wasn't there a report somewhere (EW article maybe?) that Iris is in the airport hangar scene? I know she's only in the Flash part of the crossover, so that seems to confirm that. 

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I think that's one of the problems with milestone episodes - they feel the need to bring people back. And as much as I'd like to see some past characters, I don't want the entire episode to be about them. What about the 3 full seasons between S1 and S5? And what would they have done if they couldn't get actors back (like with Colin Donnell)? 

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Speaking of Rory's rags, are they going to explore what they can and can't block? Bullets are apparently no problem. And if Mayo is evil/working for Prometheus, could Felicity asking him to test it have led to Prometheus getting his hands on it and then coming up with a way to get past them? That might be a stretch and probably won't be addressed, but I wish they'd do something about those magic rags instead of more of WD moving forward. 

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15 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said:

I just want to know what Thea and Quentin are going to be doing during all of this. The 2 people that were the closest to Laurel/Black Canary and yet seem no where to be found.

They'll be too busy running the mayor's office for Oliver/drinking, in Lance's case/trying to stop Lance from drinking, in Thea's case. I really hope that if there is a new Canary that Oliver talks to Lance about it first and he doesn't come into the lair one day to see her training. 

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6 minutes ago, ComicFan777 said:

I think it's weird, too, that the paps have mentioned that Oliver and Felicity specifically go and seek out the new canary together - seems wrong for the writers to have him bring his ex-fiancee to seek out the new BC with the writers knowing that she will be his future whatever - I mean, why not have him bring Diggle instead or another team member.

Especially considering how rare it is to see Felicity in the field doing anything. Why for this?

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4 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

What I already resent about this:

1.  Oliver? Team Arrow? goes looking for her to join the team even though they have way too many new team members now and most viewers think the B Team should leave now that Diggle is back (see TV line poll). 

2. GA keeps pushing to get her to join the team when she doesn't want to. WTH?  First Oliver is all about "no, we don't need more help" and then when they recruit four more people possibly plus Vigilante, it's like he's opening up the team for even more new members?  It makes no logical sense and worse, these writers can't write for more than four people in the lair. This makes for eight, possibly ten when Thea and Lance join, eleven with Vigilante. ( I wonder how Willa Holland feels, a new super woman joining the Team while she's stuck in the mayor's corner.)

3.  It sounds like Felicity is going to do the hacking to get Tina to join the Team. NO, just NO.   Especially if Oliver is going to sleep with her.  Felicity calling Susan Williams Oliver's girlfriend is icky enough.

4. The possibility she's going to be Oliver's bedmate.

I agree with all of this.

If Tina is a detective and a new vigilante (Canary or not), why not have Oliver find her and point out she should stick to the detective work because there are enough vigilantes right now? Point out the good she can do with the police. How exactly is she supposed to explain why she presumably can't work evenings because she's suiting up with the vigilantes she supposedly hates?

And I can't help but think that Felicity's storyline is going to take her out of the lair so that it isn't so crowded in 5B. I could also see them writing out Evelyn at some point to make room. I just hope that they give Thea something more to do because I'm wondering if her entire storyline is going to be covering for Oliver as mayor since he's going to be busy with everything else and helping Lance. Are they just going to occasionally return to City Hall and show her making excuses for her brother? 

I'm also fully prepared for them to have Felicity tease Oliver about Tina at some point like having her call Susan his girlfriend and then look on jealously if she does end up on the team/as his bedmate. I'm being completely pessimistic right now. 

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5 hours ago, Belinea said:

At this point, why doesn't the whole world know Oliver's secret. He lets people join left and right and nobody ever spills? 

Yep. It seems like his feelings on the subject are completely dependent on what the writers need at the moment. Also, every time he tells someone his secret now, he's telling them everyone else's secrets as well. And we're not seeing conversations about it. He's just trusting that no one will talk, and no one does. 

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7 minutes ago, SmallScreenDiva said:

Arrow's Tyler Ritter Pleads His Case to Olicity Fans

... maybe if he didn't joke about getting death threats and casting fans in such a negative light ... eh, still no.

Also, as someone on this board wisely suggested, if you're the interloper in a popular ship, just grin and bear it. Basically, STFU.

So basically nothing new. Still saying Oliver and Felicity too busy for a relationship (but only with each other). 

Also, Malone is a "legitimate asset" for GA? Have we seen that? If by asset, you mean he had information about Prometheus we still have no idea how he got and he left evidence out for Felicity to steal, sure. Great asset. 

Also, why are there interviews coming out with Ritter and not EBR, WH or PB? 

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Just now, Belinea said:

True. What makes me bitter about this line of speculating is that Felicity managed to get over her almost husband quite nicely in a way nobody saw but she'd be super upset about this guy being dead. But these days, I'd buy that they'd do a storyline like that.

Oh I agree, but just look at these first six episodes. I wouldn't put it past them, especially considering we still know absolutely nothing about Felicity's relationship with Mayo other than they're dating. We'll probably never find out how they met or started dating unless Mayo's working for Prometheus and sought her out specifically to get close to her for him. 

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5 minutes ago, Belinea said:

That could be the way it goes down. However I really don't know how to feel about that. You'd have Felicity having her own trauma to deal with again and and you'd give Mayo so much importance and even though he might have been important to Felicity, I doubt his death would be a big deal for anybody who watches. He would define her storyline and he'd be given a position that he frankly doesn't deserve imo. 

Yeah, but it could then also help push back an Oliver/Felicity reunion to the end of the season if she's dealing with Mayo being killed because of his connection to her. She could say she's not ready for another relationship so she has to be single and that could lead to Oliver taking a turn with a temporary LI because the writers need him to and can't have both of them single at the same time. 

Or maybe the big shock is Mayo survives his time in Star City and bids them farewell with a happy wave. (Completely joking.)

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2 minutes ago, calliope1975 said:

This might have been said before, but, maybe Prometheus targets Felicity specifically, and TH becomes a casualty as a result.

Imagine Felicity's mid-breaking up with Mayo when Prometheus attacks, kills him and kidnaps her (hence the BTS photo from EBR of Prometheus). They can kill two birds with one stone in one scene - end the relationship and kill Mayo. He could've been working for Prometheus and lost his usefulness or be a good guy who got caught in the crossfire. 

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4 minutes ago, tv echo said:

I think that 509 will end with Team Arrow seeing a news report of Black Canary sightings in Hub City. That will be the EPs' hook for getting people to return after the mid-season break to watch 510.

It could. My only problem with that is it isn't shocking at all since they announced KC would be back and when. Maybe they should've kept that quiet and then surprised everyone and announced her deal across the shows after she showed up again. 

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3 minutes ago, BkWurm1 said:

I'd be very surprised if he was in 509.  It's just too packed IMO.  

Except for 506, when he was in 2 scenes, Mayo's only been in 1 scene each episode he's in. So they can easily fit in a quick break-up/death/whatever they have planned to end his role on the show. Didn't we have a BTS photo of him and WD from 509? 

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I can't help but wonder what they would've done differently if the 100th episode hadn't been part of the crossover. (Like say, the crossover fell earlier or later in the season.) Would they have tried to do something similar anyway so they could bring back everyone they wanted to make it what they consider "a love letter to the fans"? Would that have affected the crossover story? Oh the questions and possibilities... 

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2 minutes ago, way2interested said:

As for that tweet, his next episode is 510, which includes Felicity presumably in a scene with Prometheus from the filming schedule/EBR's pic IIRC, so I'll bite, I'm interested in that.

Hopefully that's something cool and doesn't end up just being something from BTS filming of that day or something. And maybe 510 is going to be what kicks off Felicity's 5B arc?

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I think I saw someone mention the possibility that Tina is Wild Dog's ex? Who says she couldn't be and still be Oliver's LI? Because, you know, why not up the drama factor? (Let me just add that I would hate this.) 

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I'm less focused on Tina possibly being a LI for Oliver and more worried about the show dedicating time to her storyline if she is Oliver's LI and/or the new Canary and not spending enough time on other characters in 5B. 

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I wonder what Diggle's going to be up to in this/how much we'll see him. Are they going to somehow fit him into the best man role simply because they couldn't get Colin Donnell back if Oliver is in fact the groom? 

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The show would never do this, but I think it would be hilarious if they had Laurel marry Ted Grant. 

But really, I just wish Tommy was somehow part of the episode. 

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1 minute ago, apinknightmare said:

Her alien dream world hand fashion is as terrible as her real world hand fashion was. Who wears 10 rings on every finger on their wedding day? LOL

I was thinking the same thing. Plus, why don't either of them look happy? Could Sara be telling her, "hey, by the way, this isn't real"? 

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4 minutes ago, dtissagirl said:

We're still missing whatever made it super personal re: Oliver back in S1 to turn Pike into an evil mirror of Oliver in S5, but I figure that's what the flashbacks to S1 in 509 are gonna be for.

Well, even if it's not Pike, that's what the flashbacks are gonna show, imo.

Considering they had SA put the S1 suit back on and are filming new scenes from that time, I can't help but wonder if Prometheus is someone we didn't see in S1 (similar to how they showed Oliver stopped and saved Cupid in 307 during 223?) so not necessarily Pike? Pike could be working for Prometheus (maybe a few people from SCPD are?) and Prometheus is just using cops for his benefit? Hence the corrupt cops part of 501, the episode that introduced Mayo and brought back Pike? (I could be stretching.) 

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There's also the fact that we first see Mayo with Pike in the premiere talking about Lance being back in town and then in episode 6, Mayo mentions going to Pike's office (right?) and the episode ends with it looking like someone's setting up Lance. But maybe we're just supposed to think that those two could be working together against Lance? Maybe I'm reading too much into it? 

I take it no one knows how many episodes Pike is supposed to be in this season, right? 

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5 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

This season does have more of a revolving door of (potential) love interests, though. I don't know how I feel about it. 

I feel like maybe they're hoping that one of these LIs gives them what they got from SA/EBR, which they should realize isn't going to happen. They'll just keep failing, then put Oliver and Felicity back together at the end of the season, and then between the time that has passed since the break-up and the time that will pass between seasons, they can avoid having to write any necessary conversations about the issues during their first time together. 

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Question: Didn't SA say that that long trailer featured scenes from first 7 episodes? Is there anything other than Susan's "working late" line from it that hasn't aired yet?