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ETA: She really did not know Erica so asked those closest to her what they thought and they made insinuations, she tried to find a way to address it with humour and yes a tad of admonishment which fair enough Erica can take offence to but Dorit did not expose Erica to ridicule anymore than she did herself.

Initially she did. IIRC she raised the question of why? with Eileen and Rinna who then both insinuated maybe it was deliberate Eileen most specifically. I will rephrase with almost from the get go and even after Eileen and Rinna emboldened her to pull the panty gag she said that she really did not think it was deliberate.

Well she certainly proves the old adage "Money can't buy Class".

Dorit did take it too far but she said from the get go to others not just Erica that she did NOT in fact think it was deliberate. I also think that when Erica started screaming that they thought she was a whore it was similar to Eileen's outrage at being asked about her affair, overblown and projecting their internal guilt and insecurities onto others. (shrugs)

Thank you for your kind thoughts, and ITA we are talking about 2 very different things. The implication that it was deliberate was made in jest by more than just Dorit who only asked a question of 2 ladies she thought new the subject of her suspicion better than she did, seriously they put it in her head and went along with the joke, YET Dorit gets all the flak. That makes no sense to me nor does the high level of moral outrage coming from someone who decisively acts in a tawdry and questionable way not because she needs the money but more because she craves the attention. It really is hard for me to empathise with her because she is cold and does come across as deliberately and unnecessarily rude/scathing also uncaring about anyone but herself and her feelings.

almost 1am UK time. On the morrow maybe!

I take offence to you bringing rape into this and trying to detract my character, My mother has been raped more than once and I don't take that chit lightly thank you. ETA Rape is always about power but not always violent, but we are NOT discussing RAPE we are talking about someone who flashed someone by accident what she flashes on the daily and can't seem to get over someone making a joke about it.

The lecture, possibly did it for her, straws and camels an all. Yet Erica said herself in her TH she was not going to forget it and her guard was up like it's ever down. Then fuelled by Rinna's 6th sense and Eileen's faux biased sense of fairness she became all kinds of bent out of shape and never gave Dorit a chance after that.

Not from me. I would still say well maybe she should have been more discreet or maybe she should get over it, especially if she was naked on tv more than once purely for self promotion. Seriously how can she be this upset over something that she basically sells on the daily. This isn't about CHOICE, she deserved it because, or anything like that. It's more about her reaction than the action itself. At least for me it is.

I don't agree with the bolded, Erica was offended and not willing to forgive or forget, which is why she was so quick to believe that PK and Dorit were saying it was deliberate, when only dorit did when she first heard she was like why would somebody not wear knickers and wear a short dress in front of someone else's husband which I believe was the conversation in the first episode or 2 with Rinna and eileen when they made the implications about whether or not it was intentional so put it in Dorits head, she just said wasn't it a tad tacky and eileen did a little skit and Rinna probably said WOW! I am paraphrasing here but that's the jist of it, then Dorit was trying to find a way to address the matter with some humour and they wanted ringside seats so... They are all complicit, maybe Erica should watch the show again to see who was really keeping this all going.

I will try to clarify: Erica doesn't know which one she is half the time so how can we or anybody in her close proximity supposed to? They are both cold, Erica G and J despite Erica's J's tawdry over sexualised stage perfomance's or her closeted to quote a poster "delinquent" chit chat with her Sham Squad Erica J also comes across as a total vacuous and egotistical Bitch so I am finding it hard to see a distinction between the two. Nawty! Sarcasm or satire she announced she wasn't wearing undies then didn't do a good enough job or being maintaining her (coughs) Modesty.

I agree it was a slip up and Lisa has tried very hard to get Erica to larf it off and stop making it into something that nobody intended, yet Erica has taken this opportunity probably fuelled by the chit stirring and muppet show of Eileen and Rinna to act like an extra from the scarlet letter. "The peanut gallery" Rinna to deflect from her own fault and Eileen to deflect from her own bias, have aggravated and exacerbated the situation 10 fold for their own agenda's and they have the cheek to call Lisa V manipulative. (shrugs)

I go commando all the time, but I don't wear short skirts and if I did it would be my faux pas for not being more discreet not theirs for being visually dare I say "Offended".

It's not hard to understand but Erica herself has blurred the lines, last season it was much clearer that they were in fact supposed to be separate aspects of her and she had a dual persona thing going on, yet this Season I have seen Erica Giradi being a total cold and at times quite awful bitch and Erica Jayne saying BITCH BITCH BITCH not so much with the Cunt this year aside from when she felt Erica G BTW not J was validated by Boy George, you know this strong gives zero phucks woman felt like she had permission to say something she had previously said with pride because HE said it too. Meh!!! Erica G can be offended but she should also be offended by herself then!

Well she could have worn knickers, or she could have been more discreet or she could have laughed it off, or she could have told Dorit weeks ago that she was in fact pissed about the situation; coulda woulda shoulda. The fact is she has adopted some sort of righteous indignation about her pussy being mentioned when she makes a living at being frankly low class and tawdry and acts like a schizo half the time (pun intended) how are people supposed to read her if she isn't honest about how she truly feels or who she truly is?

Thinking about it, Erica does use her sexuality like a weapon, funny that she surrounds herself with Men her Husband included who can not satisfy her lust for anything but FAME!

Yup you can lead a horse to water but..... I am not denying that Lisa's SOH is not for all, but I'd rather have one than none like Erica, who took the piss out of an act of kindness and is offended that people believe her when she says she's a cold bitch!

Erm it's her JOB! ETA she never baited Dorit, she just backed up her friend, she did urge Kim to tell Rinna to her face (rather than behind her back) but what of Erica is she not guilty of doing her job too then? side note: Kyle is the true sniper from the side. She has faux innocence and deniability.

You like Erica is all I'm getting, apologies if I am not reading between the lines here, I did in fact ask you directly for clarification. Sweet, I saw it differently which is why there are no absolutes.

Ever heard of making light of a situation?

To me he looked like a concerned husband.

I agree which says a lot about her agenda! Erica is the literal and physical incarnation of the Meredith Brooks song "BITCH" yet so offended when people believe her! Dayem!!! So is it that you like Erica or dislike Dorit? (Direct question)

FFS She was Kidding in (kinda) private with her bestie!

It truly is like another language almost as confusing as dare I say English! or Dothraki (lol)

In think Harry and Vince placate their wives also whilst trying to make a quick exit without any tar or feathers sticking to em... It was and edit thing and if you watch closely you can see it; though it also had to be brought to my direct attention. Apologies to all in advance for my absolutely terrible grammar and modern slang/text speak. #Acronyms