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Episode synopsis: The Nathan James must evade an overwhelming threat. A revelation in St. Louis puts President Michener in a terrible position.
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Episode synopsis: Chandler's mission comes to a head as he prepares the final part of his plan. President Michener ponders the fate of his presidency.
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Episode synopsis: Chandler's mission becomes complicated as his position is worsened. President Michener faces pressure from the regional leaders.
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Episode synopsis: Chandler must confront his suspected new foe. Slattery learns more about the supposed virus mutation. Pressure mounts on President Michener as the situation worsens.
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Ominous Episode synopsis: There is an inevitable march to the gallows for the captured spies on both sides.
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On 2016-06-22 at 2:14 PM, NutmegsMom said:
I'm wondering how his story will end, given that the real Simcoe had a lake in Canada named after him (so he couldn't have been that bad).
A lake, a county, a city, an island, multiple streets, has a statue in downtown TO, schools, a University Hall, a Civic Holiday in his honour (first weekend in August). He was instrumental in estabishing in Canada "the courts of law, trial by jury, English common law, freehold land tenure, and the abolition of slavery."
So I doubt the show will kill him off.. you never know though. :')
QuoteWounded bear Simcoe is gonna tear up the town and Richard is given him a list.
The only one I want Simcoe to "tear up" is Richard Sr. That person betrayed his townspeople and family over and over again. Again, great actor, hate the character.
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1 hour ago, VMepicgrl said:
I tweeted this question to Alexander Rose last night - "Did Ben let Arnold escape or was he already too far anyway, and he just shot at him to send a message?"
His response - "He tried his best to hit or wing him but Arnold was slightly out of range. That's my view, anyway."
Clearly, the show didn't do a good job making this scene clear to us viewers.
Honestly, knowing how inaccurate those flintlock pistols could be (assuming barrel was smoothbore), I actually expected one of the rowers to have been shot and not surprised he missed.
It was a great scene though.
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10 hours ago, iMonrey said:
So Slattery and Co. have been kidnapped by . . . pirates? Who want to drain their blood because it will give them the cure? Have I got that right? Two episodes in and I'm still not real clear on what's going on here.
When the pirate (the bloody one who could speak English, caught by Green and Burk, when the guy said something, what he said made me think that there is something higher than Peng, and Peng is answering to this person.
Now with the blood draining, I first think that they are going to transfuse the blood to others, in the idea that since the virus vaccine is in the Nathan James' crew's blood, by transfusing hat blood to others, they would then get the cure. So there must be a "pirate" leader somewhere we wil meet, I think.
QuoteWhile some sort of martial law would be necessary until an economy was stabilized, rationing brings on a black market, just as it did in the time of the Greatest Generation. Most sacrificed, yes, but some did not. My parents told me of gasoline and tire rationing during WWII, but added that extra gas was available. For a price. My wife, who went through the Northridge earthquake in the '90s, told me that the supermarkets sold water for $5/gallon, cash only. That's just the human nature. The more you try to prohibit it, the more it pops up behind you. It's best for the authorities to channel it somehow.
Yeah, but when that scene happened, my bitter self was happy Michener stood his ground. Sorry, but I just rolled my eyes for those two complaining that some rich person couldn't get their 6 boxes of cereal, when poorer people can't afford to buy any extra food and are limited to rations. Suck it up.
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4 hours ago, AllisonH said:
Alexander Rose posted about this in the Turn subreddit. I don't know if we're permitted to link to Reddit here, but essentially, Rose said they shot two endings: one with Ben firing his gun, and one not. In the end, they decided Ben's sense of honor compelled him to fire, but there was definitely an internal struggle.
Yup, you can go ahead and link to those interviews, if you like. Actually, I found it. Here it is. Very interesting.
In fact, if you click on Alexander Rose's handle [TurnWriter], you can see a nice list of what he's written/answered/commented about the show. Some good stuff.
QuoteModerator, can the episode title be corrected? I believe it is Blade on the Feather, meaning to put the oars parallel to the water.
Yup. Shall do. The original episode title where I get my episode synopses had "Father", not "Feather".
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Good episode actually. It helped that I read about Arnold and Andre last week. I wonder if the show writers read the same Wikipedia pages I did to write this episode. Still, it was really good. Arnold and Andre meeting, Andre being caught, Hewett going to Andre (and his FU attitude), and everything Tallmadge.
I wasn't a fan of Robert Rogers being there at Andre's capture and didn't like the whole "Give me Peggy" negotiation. And damn you, Abe. Just stop. Really. He just can't "spy" well. But glad he clocked Simcoe - someone needs to beat the crap out of Simcoe. I wish Abe would consider clocking his father at some point too.
Simcoe unfortunately has become a violent cartoon of a character and just plain stupid. Why NOT consider Rogers left Setauket? His 'burn the town" attitude is just not normal and counterproductive. Mary was the only one to have it right.
Overall though, really enjoyed it and looking forward to next week!
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I have Space Canadian feed and I got both. However, the 2nd hour wasn't listed as "The Last Ship" it was listed as something else. The guide information was wrong but it did air 2 hours of Last Ship. Seems like a mess up on either Space not updating the guide information in time or the cable companies for not updating the information in time.
Ugh. That explains it. There was only one listing for the show, and wasn't watching live, so didn't record the next show aired.
Damn you, Rogers!! Thanks for letting me know, Artsda. I'm going to assume then that airing is "back to normal"
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Congrats to the Cavs, Toronto isn't experiencing even close to as big a drought as Cleveland was, but I have to say I felt a kinship with Cleveland, a fellow 3 team desert waiting for even the slightest drop of rain, hopefully it doesn't stop too soon. I also have to feel a little vindication that my Raps provided a bump in the road at the very least against the eventual NBA Champions, it might be a foolish feeling but it makes me feel like we aren't quite as far off as I thought we were at the beginning of the playoffs.
I feel the same here. Congrats to the Cavaliers - at time they seemed to play better basketball, and when GSW were playing top notch, the Cavaliers still played amazing. And I will say, reading about those "winning" droughts for the city (since the 1964 Browns), it is kinda nice that they finally won something again.
Sad about GSW, but hey, they won last year, so I don't feel too bad. Share the wealth!
Got totally choked up over LeBron James and Coach Tyronn Lue just bawling their eyes out after winning. Love that he's such a newbie relatively and retired as a player in 2009!! Love that the entire team was just SOOOOOO thrilled/excited, just completely blown away.
LeBron as MVP - duh. :')
Apparently one is supposed to root for the team that beat your own team, to win, because then it's basically the 'best team' beat your own. And I agree, love that the Raptors provided a difficult "bump" for CC to have to fight through. And you never know - Dwane Casey has made a major impact to the team, and he's back. Depending on who resigns, it could be a very good next year.
Congrats Cleveland Cavaliers!!
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Episode synopsis: CNO Tom Chandler must find a way to return to his old crew and to investigate a dangerous, new enemy.
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Episode synopsis: Benedict Arnold plots to turn over West Point to the British. Andre negotiates for Peggy. Abe plots revolt in Setauket.
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51 minutes ago, lordonia said:
FWIW, my online guide shows both new episodes airing on the 19th, at 10 and 11pm Eastern.
Mine right now says Sunday 9:00 pm EST for the first one. And I read another comment elsewhere that said that both episodes already aired in Canada.
Well, I taped them, it said The Last Ship, but it wasn't The Last Ship.
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I was reading up on Benedict Arnold and John Andre today (and Peggy Shippen) - on Wikipedia. Pretty interesting stuff, actually. Arnold is a pretty interesting character and the accomplishments in his life, even before he joined the military.
I think I mentioned it before, but I didn't realize how far north into the future Canada the various skirmishes/attacks went. Who knew?
Also, if I understand correctly,
SpoilerArnold took over command at West Point - a main strategic military base for the Continential Army. The moment he arrived, he started telling the soldiers to do certains things that weakened the Fort's defensives. The idea being when the British arrived, they could easily take over the Fort. If the American's lost the Fort, New England would be completely cut off from the rest of the Contintental Army plus lose whatever military equipment they had there. So pretty significant stuff. And pretty fascinating.
You gotta feel bad for the soldiers being told to do certain things that they KNEW was weakening the Fort, but they had no choice, because otherwise they could be court-martialed, brought up on other charges for disobeying General Arnold.
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On 2016-06-14 at 4:26 AM, Artsda said:
No new air date has been set.
The Last Ship Premiere Rescheduled for Sunday, June 19th.
Note spoilers in the link.
In terms of scheduling, TLS airs on Space (Canadian feed). Checking the schedule, only The Scott Effect is being aired on Sunday, not the second episode, but it might be different for others. If you are going to get the second episode also, please let me know!!
I suspect that late episodes will be paired up for the season to catch up.
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Hey Everyone,
Due to the tragedy in Orlando, TNT had decided not to air the first two episodes of the season in respect and due to some violent content in the episodes. However, some television stations may have broadcast the episodes anyway, andsome of you have already seen then. Some have also maybe only seen The Scott Effect due to an 'accidently' TNT airing a couple days ago.
So to allow those who saw the episode to discuss it, while keeping the episode "pure" and spoiler-free, I've created this thread as a temporary discussion location.
/// ------> BEWARE - SPOILERS BE HERE. EPISODE DISCUSSION IS HERE. <------- \\\
If you accidently popped in, then hit the Back Button NOW!!
FTR, the "Unaired USA" red tag basically means that not all TV markets have had the episodes broadcast at the same date/time for them all to watch.
Since we don't know 100% if TNT will air the two episodes this Sunday or pospone until later, I will lock the other episode thread for now, and open it when it airs. Once that happens, the discussion posts here will be moved over there. Thank you.
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The Last Ship Premiere Posponed due to Orlando Shooting.
Note, episode spoilers in the article. It may be aired this upcoming Sunday June 19th.
Quote“As a result of the shootings this weekend in Orlando, tonight’s originally scheduled season premiere of The Last Ship has been postponed,” said TNT in a statement. “Our hearts are with the victims and their families.”
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So sad but understandable...and respectable.
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On 2016-05-26 at 1:34 PM, fastiller said:
In the words of Long Island's very own Billy Joel:
The sinners are much more fun.
Love that.
And this quote, which is so true...
Quote"I desire to go to Hell and not to Heaven. In the former I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks and apostles."
Niccolo Machiavelli (1469-1527) Italian philosopher, writer and politician
I just rewatched the finale again. Such a fun show. I rarely buy DVDs but I might consider it for this show.
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Episode synopsis: The series finale charts a year in the life of Freddie and Stuart, who enjoy their inheritance and a birthday. Violet, meanwhile, moves on from her divorce; and Ash has big news.
PBS will air the Series Finale on Saturday June 19, 2016.
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Episode synopsis: The Culper Ring is resurrected in time to save Washington's army. Simcoe terrorizes Setauket as he hunts for Rogers. Anna infiltrates New York.
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I had always assumed that since he is a historical figure and it is fairly well known that he goes on to found the city now known as Toronto and becomes the Lieutenant Governor of Upper Canada, that we are stuck with him until the end of the series. (I thought that historical facts are not spoilers, and don't need spoiler bars?)
Yeah, but some people are so spoiler-adverse that even the hint of what 'could' happen on the show, based on real-life, makes people have a sneezing fit. It's good that we are being more careful, spoiler-tagging just in case.
But I've actually struggled with it, simply because what you said above, it's fact. The show just twists the hell out of history. I'm fine with not spoiler-tagging it though - unless someone really is a stickler. Fact is, the show has deviated so much some actual history and the A. Rose book it's based on, it would be hard to "spoil' someone at this point - because I've read the book and the show is very different.
The show is no where near what the book is based on, and obviously real-life history. One could call it an "intrepretation" at this point.
QuoteYes, but Nathaniel Sackett is not as well known as Benedict Arnold or John Graves Simcoe or Peggy Shippen.
Is Simcoe really well known in the US, though? For me, yes, since I grew up near Simcoe, Ontario and live near Toronto now, so yes.
But I've never studied American history - just read for interest. I've obviously heard of Benedict Arnold, knew what he "did', but had never heard of Peggy Shippen until this show, neither Nathaniel Sackett. So I wonder how many Americans had heard of Simcoe?
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BUT the annoying part is that we knew Simcoe wasn’t going to die. Like maybe it’s kind of amusing that he’s lost his ear, but there is no way that character is departing TURN!world until the very last episode
That's won't even happen. Without Simcoe, my
Spoilercountry of Canada and the City of Toronto wouldn't even have been founded, among the many other major things the Real Simcoe implemented ere. Nope, crazy Simcoe's here to stay.
You have to admit, Samuel Roukin is having a blast with this role.
Mary taking charge and basically trying to kill Simcoe as the best - she should have been heading this spy ring, since she's seems to be the only one who can act for the greater good. Hell, if she led a regiment, the British would have lost sooner.
Thought this was a really good episode. Was happy when Arnold was vindicated actually, as he should have been.
Andre and his obsession with Peggy is kinda sad actually. Creepy too.
Poor Sarah didn't deserve that at all. Hoping that she would be fine. Ben trying to help her no matter what was awesome. But it also showed how each side had it's brutality. Some were good people, others not even close. But Ben beating the crap out of the guy was perfect.
Shallow Comment of the Episode: Seth Numrich/Ben Tallmadge. That is all.
QuotePeggy unchaperoned at Arnold's house at night. A few episodes ago, she wouldn't go in to look at his new house because "oh, dear, it wouldn't be proper!" Whatever.
I thought the exact same thing when I saw this. In fact, I was thinking this back a few episodes back.
S03.E08: Sea Change
in The Last Ship [V]