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On 10/20/2019 at 10:03 AM, phoenics said:
I remember a Lois & Clark storyline where Lois was framed for a murder really well - I mean REALLY well - and at first she tried to go along with the trial and be above board, etc.. but then she was convicted and that the DA was kinda in with the framers so Superman broke her out and they went "on the lam" and worked together to prove she was innocent. I realize this would be hard to do on the Flash directly - but they managed to squeeze in major stakes and emotional beats in two episodes. The attorneys looked competent (even if one was dirty) and there were parts were the bad guys stacked the deck against Lois (how they did a Perry hologram that doomed Lois with its testimony while the real Perry was knocked out somewhere).
Damn, I remember this!
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12 hours ago, phoenics said:
I'm unhappy with how everyone turned on Jason.
I thought everyone was being brainwashed in this episode. Even Dick's ghost!Bruce seemed like a manipulated hallucination.
That said, even Krypto got more screentime than Gar this episode. 😬
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I am not impressed with the show's treatment of Sophie. She's apparently bisexual, so acting like she's "faking" her marriage is disgustingly bi-phobic. Whatever reasons she has for hiding her this aspect of her life, they are her reasons. It's disgusting that Kate and Mary are constantly trying to shame her for it.
Outing a non-straight person's sexual identity is never OK. I don't give a f**k if you are her ex or her ex's sister.
Also, they broke up. Sophie didn't cheat on Kate when she started a relationship with and got married to a man. Kate acting entitled to her ("I'd have broken up your wedding" 😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬) is stalkerish af and would have been called out if Kate was a past boyfriend. Newsflash, CW network: You don't get brownie points for making an abusive dynamic gay.
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Honestly, having the incel white guy be the Big Bad probably made this the realest supervillain origin story I've ever seen/read.
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5 minutes ago, In2You said:
If she's biracial she's not a black woman or a white woman.
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20 hours ago, Trini said:
And... Chester is the self insert for Eric Wallace?
LOL, I'm glad someone else said it.
On 10/5/2019 at 8:38 PM, adora721 said:Just merge them into one already. Neither is interesting separately and it seems like a sick, twisted version of a narcisstic relationship with oneself. If he's trying to turn them into Hulk and Banner, it won't work.
^THIS!
I've never been a fan of either character, but this is another level of pandering and disgusting.
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19 hours ago, chitowngirl said:
I get that Meredith was fired from her doctor job 🙄, but Is she fired from her position on the Board? Can she be?
It's Hollywood Business. Just roll with it.
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11 hours ago, Trini said:
Kamilla's with the rest of the team.
Remember when keeping the Flash a secret from Iris was a big deal?
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2 minutes ago, adora721 said:
I only mentioned this to show that DP was aware that the closer you are to the male lead, the better your status is on the show.
Or it could make you a prime candidate for the "I want to kill off someone that is important enough to hurt the male lead... but won't hurt the status quo of the show" position... She could have ended up being Barry's Eddie.
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5 minutes ago, adora721 said:
DP's opportunities as a privileged woman would always be there. There's no shortage for her. That she couldn't put aside her own selfish ambition seems to be beyond just normal actor ambitions.
What baffles me is that I don't really understand what she thought she was doing by whipping the fans into a frenzy. That's not going to help her job, in fact the right kind of show-runners might have fired her for that reason. If I was a showrunner who wanted social media to be going in one direction, and had a crew member trying to push social media to go in the other direction, I'd be irate, because that person is being unprofessional and actively sabotaging my show's chances. Rather than letting myself be arm-twisted, I'd write that person off the show in such a way that no amount of social media frenzy can bring them back.
The thing with DP was that she was banking on her pet status with the previous showrunner and the innate racism of the network, the media and the fans to take her "side".
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2 hours ago, SevenStars said:
I think the "whiteness" aspect is more connected to the fandom, than to DP, base on what I have seen.
Considering DP was actively encouraging the fandom as far as recent seasons, I honestly can't see the difference.
1 hour ago, adora721 said:To me, DP rejected Ralph (and Cisco) because he's not the lead. It's about status and being with the lead male gives the love interest lots of screen time, higher status, and media attention. If you watched "Arrow", Katie Cassidy was the female lead as Laurel Lance, but when Emily Bett Rickards' Felicity became Oliver's love interest, Katie's role was diminished significantly and then her character was killed off.
That's nothing to do with DP/Caitlin Snow though. Caitlin wasn't Barry's LI who was then "demoted"/"displaced" by Iris*. She always had her own niche in the show. K
*Except in her head.
34 minutes ago, SevenStars said:Every actor wants their characters to be involved with characters who will give them more screen time, more stories , and more exposure as actors. So I get it.
I have legit never seen anything like what DP pulled in any show.
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4 minutes ago, SevenStars said:
I think people were assuming this because history have shown that whenever the writers link Caitlin to a man who isn't related to her, they usually make it romantic.
A white man who isn't related to her. Because she's been linked to Cisco for 6 seasons now, several times when they were both single, no one even breathed romance in that direction and DP was always quick to shut that down.
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17 hours ago, Featherhat said:
I was having a couple of Laurel from Arrow flashbacks where the writers IMHO really shot themselves in the foot with the awful backstory for their original lead couple. I hope they turn this one around and flesh Sophie's POV out more otherwise I'll be rooting against them getting back together.
THIS. I winced when I saw the Designated Rival LI show up but I was like... mmmm... OK, let's see how this goes and then he says the H-word and I groaned. Out loud. Why? Because unless they're going to take the easy option and make him a villain, I really don't know if I'm supposed to route for Sophie to: cheat on her husband, dump her husband who seems like a perfectly nice guy....
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On 10/4/2019 at 4:42 PM, phoenics said:
OH MY GAWD!!!! That was the best episode this show has EVER had.
In case anyone was wondering, it was written by Bianca Sams.
So...
Are we supposed to take Gar's "she's not my girlfriend!" as a shut down of BBRae or as confirmation that it will eventually happen? I tend to get confused over these things.
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On 10/6/2019 at 11:04 AM, adora721 said:
I agree. I've been hoping that Francine was a Time Bureau agent from the future ("Legends of Tomorrow") who fell in love with Joe West while tracking a time fugitive. However, instead of leaving once she caught the fugitive, she stayed to marry Joe and have Iris. At some point, either the Time Bureau wanted her back or an escapee she'd arrested found her; so, she made the choice to leave Iris and Joe to protect them. Before leaving, Francine used furture technology she'd kept to plant a false memory in Joe's mind about endangering Iris and being a drug addict to motivate Joe to hate her and not follow. Of course, Francine didn't realize she was pregnant with Wally until after she left, and she chose to stay on the move while raising Wally, but then she got seriously ill.
I'm sure Eric W. can come up with a better plot than this, but that's one way to sorta make Iris from the future or at least Francine. I always hated the drug addict plot for Francine.
Excellent.
On 10/7/2019 at 7:02 AM, rogvortex58 said:well, this is a relief.
If You Were Hoping for a Snow/Rosso Romance in The Flash Season 6, Sorry to Disappoint
no romance for Caitlin and Rosso. They have more of a brother-sister relationship. Apparently his mother just died, and Caitlin comes to see him at the funeral.
I guess she would have a blind spot for someone like that, and not suspect he was up to anything
In what world was anyone shipping Caitlin Snow with a brown man or believed this was possible? Daneille P probably has something about this in her contract.
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1 hour ago, Danny Franks said:
Shorheh Aghdashloo isn't Indian. Dominique Tipper isn't a mix of African, Asian and South American. Cas Anvar isn't Indian.
You just listed all the (explicitly described in the novel as) dark-skinned characters that the show "upgraded". It's almost as if you're making my point for me or something... 🙄 Also the "they picked the best people for the job (the implication being that black/dark-skinned people can't act)!" hasn't aged well since The Last Airbender movie came out.
1 hour ago, Danny Franks said:Florence Faivre, Francois Chau and Nadine Nicole aren't all descended from the same part of East Asia yet they're playing immediate family members.
I clearly pointed out that I would have had no problem with Aja Naomi King, an American being cast to play the role of Elvi.
But nice try at derailing a conversation about racism/colorism into one an irrelevant segue on ethnicity/nationalism.
3 hours ago, johntfs said:Stuff like that is pretty universal in the fashion/beauty industry.
It's also pretty universal in racism too but thanks for diminishing the societal discrimination that leads little black girls to think that dolls that look like them are evil as irrelevant.
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On 8/13/2019 at 2:15 PM, Chick2Chic said:
I'm intrigued especially with the history of how a lot of Black women characters are treated when they're the love interest of a [white] lead male.
One word summary? Badly.
On 8/12/2019 at 7:22 PM, phoenics said:But I watched the first episode and felt a tiny shred of hope. The show appears to be avoiding those horrid "bait and switch" tropes in the writing of S2. It's surprising me, which is unexpected.
I know right?
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If they ever let me write this show, I'd make Caitlin catch feelings for Barry, be rejected, embrace her dark side, go full villain and have to be killed.
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2 hours ago, johntfs said:
But for me, the fact that the woman of color playing a character who is a woman of color isn't quite as dark as presented in the book is just not a hill I care about dying on.
Colorism, particularly in the US, is an extension of racism. So kindly don't dismiss it into the same category as fans are upset that "Daniel Radcliffe should have worn green contacts for the HP movies". That is just insulting to the very real people who are affected by it. And by people affected by it, I mean there's a billion dollar industry that thrives on making dark-skinned African and South Asian women believe that their natural skin colour is inherently unattractive.
23 hours ago, jhlipton said:Lyndie was good, but Nicole was so much better. And Lyndie is of Caribbean, definitely NOT Nigerian! (Here's a page of Nigerian models).
It's not even her actual heritage - Aja Naomi King could pass as Nigerian and to the best of my knowledge, she's African-American with all the genetic heritage that comes with. But Lyndie is unambiguously biracial - from her skin colour to her facial profile - and it's obvious why she was cast.
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Needs more red.
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1 hour ago, Ambrosefolly said:
I thought Mike was as right about Max turning Eleven against him as Hopper was about Mike corrupting Eleven. I thought she was acting like a straight up brat in regards to Mike and was projecting her own feelings about her relationship with Lucas onto Eleven.
I came off feeling that Max's "girl power" bonding with Eleven was more for the sake of the writing shitting on Lucas than anything to do with either Mike or Eleven.
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2 hours ago, SevenStars said:
To me, if they really didn't want to write for her, she would get the Cisco or Iris treatment, especially in s2. Where she is only part of the story to support Barry or another character.
Instead, they create characters seasons after seasons, in order to support Caitline/KF story line, even when it means changing her past every season or it doesn't make sense.
This. We've seen how the writers treat characters they don't want to write for: that's how Iris was the character with the least impact in season 3, when saving her life was the season's goal. That's why Iris became Team Flash leader in season 4 and we didn't find out she quit journalism in the middle of season 4.
2 hours ago, SevenStars said:Just because they are really bad at writing for her doesn't mean they don't want to write for her or protecting her from criticism.
They're bad at writing for Caitlin because they're writing for Caitlin at Iris's expense. I know it sounds counter-intuitive but it's the truth. Iris is the second lead, the title character's LI, she's the second most important person in the story and the most important person to the most important person in the story. Getting her right isn't optional.
By disrespecting the dynamics of the show - by making Caitlin, a supporting character more dominant than Iris, it skews the entire story. It's not a coincidence that all the best The Flash episodes (Runaway Dinosaur, Flashtime, Once and Future Flash) are the ones that have not only the best Iris and Iris/Barry writing but puts them at the heart of the story. The Flash will never be as good as it can be because the writers are hellbent on demeaning/diminishing the show's leading lady for Danielle Panabacker and the racist perspective. So paradoxically, that's why the writing for Caitlin will always be bad.
But racism/white supremacy has never been about being "the best that it (a story, a society) can be". The goal isn't to write Caitlin well but to write Iris worse. The writing for Caitlin can be bad, but as long as the writing for Iris is worse, then Caitlin has won.
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Billy stays dead and we never hear about him again.
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Just saw it. It was OK. Gotta admit I was spoiled for all the major beats so that probably affected my enjoyment... but there were just too many suspension of belief moments for me. All the Avengers were AWOL and it all rested on the shoulders of a teenage boy to save the world? Tony Stark giving said teenage boy control over WMDs? Peter handing over the glasses to a random guy that he literally just met? Someone that came from another Earth? After giving some convoluted illogical reason why he couldn't give them to the Director of SHIELD? I think Zendaya and Tom Holland have mad chemistry but it would have been nice to know/understand when his feelings flipped from Liz Allan to her. Also, convenient that everyone in Peter's group that mattered had been dusted. Yeah and about that - the blip? Seriously?
Ah well, Ned/Betty were cute.
Some ugliness though: I heard that this plot was almost shot-for-shot a Miles Morales comic story? Can anyone confirm or explain this.
6 hours ago, swanpride said:The Undress scene is very questionable, but there was nothing titillating about it. Honestly, it was a dumb way to give Brad the stupid picture.
Yeah it was definitely not meant to be titillating. They only filmed a supermodel in skin-tight leather ordering a teenage boy to take off his clothes to give us a PSA about not taking pictures in bathrooms. 🙄
ETA: Oh yeah - and another thing that bugged me. The whole deal about his secret identity is that Spidey wants to protect his loved ones. So... he takes MJ out on a public date... in full costume... because no one would want to know who is the girl that Spidey took web-slinging through town? Or connect the dots between her dates with Spidey and her high school classmate?
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Caitlin Snow
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Great idea but don't be surprised if Snowflake has an embargo against storylines like that.