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  1. 11 hours ago, bmoore4026 said:

    Little Miss Perfect Cellist.

    It was a little much. She's pretty! She's young! She's talented! She's a loving granddaughter who plays the cello for her adoring grandma! She has adorable phone calls with her parents! And oh yes, she's white (which I normally wouldn't care about, but in an instance where they're laying on the shattered innocence shtick so thick, I definitely noticed), which seems like a questionable choice if they're setting her up as this angel.

    ...I guess they figured having Hen hit a young bride on her way to the wedding or a charming old married couple on the way to the hospital to meet their new grandchild would have been too much.

    I did laugh at the piece Evelyn was playing was Bach's Cello Suite No. 1 (Prelude), since that's apparently the only cello piece in existence according to fictional TV/film.

    10 hours ago, BooksRule said:

    I thought the music at the end sounded familiar, so I looked it up.  It's 'On the nature of daylight' by Max Richter.  It was used (very effectively) in parts of the sci-fi movie 'Arrival'.  It's a very good piece of music.

    It is a very good piece of music, but it's basically the musical equivalent of Instant Sad. You could play On the Nature of Daylight over a montage of silly cat videos and it would seem like the most tragic, heartrending shit of all time. And therefore, to use it over what was already a very sad moment, as if the writers weren't sure that the audience would think Evelyn's death was sad (and of course they would, they're not monsters), was cheap and lazy.

    Using very sad music as a crutch to create a mood shows a lack of faith on the writers' part in their material. Like, you didn't think a young woman dying in a car crash was enough to generate an emotional response in your audience, you had to paper it over with fucking On the Nature of Daylight, a beautiful piece which deserves far better? Why not just use a terrible Hallelujah cover like every other show and be done with it?

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  2. I loved the corporate nightmare song, and the sly hair/makeup/costume references (Hayley Williams, for example) were on point. And yes, the music/band references were way, way, out of date, but that was the point: the teenagers who screamed the "I'll never fall in line / Become another victim of your conformity" lyrics to Fatlip by Sum 41 almost 20 years ago are now well established in their careers in the corporate sphere.

    Kristen's awkwardness worked for the Duolingo sketch. That was great.

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  3. On 10/24/2019 at 7:28 PM, cpcathy said:

    Chance is kind of adorable.

    He is absurdly charming. I was grinning like an idiot during his monologue rap.

    One thing that's kind of jarring about the show is that a lot of the casual cultural references are a generation out of date. Specifically in this episode, the Snacks bit had a very early 90s ad feel (and was clearly a riff on the "purple stuff" Sunny D commercial Dave Chappelle famously mocked, which aired in 1991). Chance's monologue rap referenced Buffy vs. Angel (20 years ago), Mase vs. Puffy (20 years ago), Nintendo vs. Sega Genesis (25+ years ago), Sense and Sensibility vs. Pride and Prejudice (25 years ago), etc. Even the Harry Potter vs. Percy Jackson joke is 10 years old. Chance is 10 years younger than the head writers, so it was kind of silly to see him rap about preferring Sega Genesis when it was replaced by the Sega Saturn when he was under two years old.

    I've seen enough of the movies being parodied that I found the Space Mistakes trailer extremely funny. The childlike dialogue being delivered with grave urgency ("What if the top comes off?") was the best.

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  4. 34 minutes ago, sistermagpie said:

    FWIW, I wouldn't interpret that quote as implying that necessarily. Tom definitely drew his line in the sand, but I think "I can't do this anymore" could just result in Shiv having to adapt to that, in which case her scene with Logan is a sign she's going to do that.

    Well, it depends on what the "this" is supposed to be in Jesse Armstrong's characterization of Tom's position as "I can't do this anymore." Is "this" sex stuff that does nothing for Tom? Is "this" Shiv dictating terms and Tom goes along with whatever she wants as her meek little lapdog to keep her happy? Or is "this" the relationship, period? Because Tom's last statement in that conversation--basically "I wonder if I'd be happier without you"--wasn't a rant about threesomes (even if he led off with that), or a complaint that Shiv steamrolls him (although he obviously doesn't love that, either), or even a demand that Shiv respect his boundaries. It was just "I'm incredibly unhappy, and I wonder if I'd be happier without you." It certainly seemed resigned and final, particularly given the way he started that conversation by scoffing at Shiv's profession of love: "I love you. I love this rock. Bye, rock. You're dead. What does it mean?"

    I mean, realistically, Tom and Shiv were never going to last. Real Shiv and Real Tom (Elisabeth Murdoch and her first husband) certainly didn't. The only surprise would be that Tom dumped Shiv and not the other way around. It was never a question of whether they would get divorced, but when. Why not in Season 3? The writers might drag things out to keep Matthew Macfadyen on the show, but I don't know how Shiv and Tom move on from this in a relationship, unless they hit the reset in Season 3 and act as if the whole beach conversation never happened.

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  5. 7 hours ago, Jacks-Son said:

    I can't see them killing Owain Yeoman (the reporter) Rigsby is probably their most well known cast member after Terry O'Quinn, who always plays a weirdo and maybe Clancy Brown, another weirdo.

    I doubt Owain Yeoman is going anywhere. TV shows with a (straight) female central character usually have one or more token hot guys in the main cast for eye candy/love interest purposes.

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  6. Emergence promo: Who or what is this mystery child???

    Literally four episodes in: She's a robot. (So is she part-synthetic or--) ROBOT.

    ...If you want people to stick around, you really need to drag out the central mystery a little more.

    I don't remember Owain Yeoman being this smoking hot on The Mentalist. The stubble, maybe? At least they're letting him use his natural accent. The number of British actors playing American characters on primetime TV is getting ridiculous, to the point that on one new show, a British actor and another British actor are playing an American father and his American son.

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    Emily is totally AI herself.

    Westworld ripoff? Hmm.

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  7. 9 hours ago, BlackberryJam said:

    Shiv was fine with Tom just watching as long as she had her fun. The threesome wasn’t for Tom at all.

    I rewatched the scene, and that wasn't my take at all. On the other hand, Michelle Matland's main style inspirations for S2 for Shiv were Katharine Hepburn and Marlene Dietrich, so maybe the costume folks were trying to tell us something. Shiv realizes that she's a lesbian: possible arc for S3?

    ...In all seriousness, I'm not sure if we were supposed to interpret Tom and Shiv's beach scene as a final breakup, but Jesse Armstrong seemed to imply that it was: "In regard to the show, it's about that delicate moment of which you say 'That's too much. I can't do this anymore.'" If it is a final breakup, it would make Shiv's subsequent decision to beg Logan to spare Tom that much more poignant. Not only would it mean that despite the horrible way she has treated him, she does in fact love him, and that she loves him enough to sacrifice her career aspirations to protect him (as Logan unkindly made it clear that making Tom-type sacrifices was the stuff CEOs were made of), but that she loves him enough to do it even when she can't possibly benefit from it since Tom has made it clear that he's done with her. That's quite beautifully tragic. Shiv finally proves her love when it's too late for it to matter.

    The real Shiv (Elisabeth Murdoch) was married several times (to men), so it seems quite possible that we're going to get a divorce storyline in S3, although I don't know how Matthew Macfadyen could stay on the show if there's no reason to keep Tom in the Roys' orbit. Shiv could even get a new man (or woman). Elisabeth's second husband was a PR executive, and the writers could have all kinds of fun with that.

    And speaking of tragic, it's sad that for all S2 flirted with interesting stories about women and power, Shiv was ultimately forced to make the same bullshit choice women have always been forced to make in the working world: choosing between her career and her man.

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  8. 5 minutes ago, Dminches said:

    I don’t agree.  Shiv put together the threesome for her pleasure.  She was way too disappointed that Tom said “no” for it to just be a gift.  She was practically begging for it.

    She was marching him off to his execution with a gift, thus his grim comment about "death sentence vibes."

  9. 23 hours ago, scrb said:

    So we have to talk about the arrangement again.

    Shiv set up a threesome with another woman but Tom wasn't into it.

    He's not a hippie, he doesn't want an open marriage.  Feels that she strong-armed him into it, on the eve of their wedding.

    Did she insist on the arrangement because of her appetite for others or because it was one other thing she could make Tom give in to?

    Shiv has never shown any interest in women (which doesn't mean that she has none, I know) and has picked men for her previous conquests. I think the threesome was supposed to be a gift for Tom's benefit, maybe in potential anticipation of Tom getting the chop (even though Shiv had asked Logan to pick Kendall).

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    (Maybe Tom needs to have better encounters for him to be more enthusiastic about the arraignment).

    I think that for all his talk, in his heart of hearts, Tom really is a conventional sort of guy who just wants to have lots of monogamous, purely vanilla missionary sex with his wife.

    As much as he bragged about the snowball thing ("So hot!"), it was pretty clear he found it horrible and degrading and was trying to convince himself he was into it. He also said in his angry rant to Shiv "I don't want to shove a dildo up my--" before stopping himself, so I'm guessing we can add pegging to the list of sexual activities Tom does not enjoy that he has pretended to enjoy for Shiv's sake.

    It may be that on top of all the emotional shit going on, Tom and Shiv are not sexually compatible, with Tom being monogamous and vanilla and Shiv being into other things (polyamory, pegging, etc.). No wonder they're so miserable.

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    If Tom went hog wild with the arrangement, Shiv might not like it so much.

    Even when Shiv is offering an extramarital dalliance she thinks Tom will like, she's making it clear it has to be on her terms. She picked the lady, it's a threesome and not Tom and the lady having some fun without her, etc.

    3 hours ago, BlackberryJam said:

    I want clothes tailored that perfectly. I mean, Sarah Snook does not have a miniscule waist and all of those pants look so damn good. I am in the "thicker waist" crowd and feel like all the pants that fit my waist are too big in the hips. Her clothes fit her body proportions and I want, want, want, want, a Shiv Roy line of clothing at Macy's. 

    The costuming on this show is a compelling argument for everyone who can afford it to get their clothing tailored.

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  10. 11 hours ago, scrb said:

    Interview with Kieran Culkin, not exactly what I expected, seems to be into the interview, pretty self-aware, which is not what you'd expect Roman to be.

    Kenneth Lonergan (aka Gerri's real life husband) wrote a lovely little tribute to Kieran Culkin, whom he has directed (in This Is Our Youth), and this tidbit sounds very, very Roman:

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    As for his aggravating qualities as a friend, they’re fairly insubstantial — he’s a bad arguer, he’d rather get on your nerves than make his point, he’s never seen a movie pre-1980 and constantly accuses me of only pretending to like them to show off, etc., etc. 

    Hee.

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    There's also an interview with Nicholas Braun on the same Youtube channel.

    He's 6-7!

    Nicholas Braun has talked about losing out on roles because of his height. Being too tall really can be a disadvantage for screen, since your scene partners have to stand on boxes and such to be in the same frame. Braun told an anecdote about filming a scene with his love interest where they're supposed to walk together on the sidewalk, and the production set up a line of apple crates for the actress to walk on.

    There are several actors who have had illustrious careers despite their height--the great James Cromwell, who plays Ewan, for one, and the Rock doesn't seem to be hurting for work, either--but yeah, it can be tough.

  11. On 10/13/2019 at 3:22 PM, Bama said:

    Yeah, costuming and hair and makeup tell the story of a character if done with serious thought and used in conjunction with the script and storyline.

    We’ve seen it in “Breaking Bad” with the color stories used for each character and in “Mad Men” with the changing wardrobes of Peggy, Betty, and Joan reflecting their change in status over the course of the story.

    Pointing out that the character of Shiv is using her hairstyle and clothing choices to project her new ambitions in no way devalues Sarah Snook’s acting ability just as commenting on how the Kendall character uses riding a motorcycle to project a cool image devalues Jeremy Strong’s acting.

    Great shows use wardrobe to enhance characters and the story.

     And both Shiv and Sarah look mighty fine as a bonus.

    (As for being shallow - I wish Sarah would borrow some from Shiv in the clothing department. Her real life choices are not the best.)

    Yes, absolutely! I think Succession is going to be up there with Mad Men in terms of enhancing narrative through clothing choices. 

    On 10/13/2019 at 3:41 PM, scrb said:

    If she's the new, better-looking face of Waystar, is she going to be able to be better at her job because of her presentation?

    World isn't going to forgive Waystar for the Cruises scandal before Shiv looks good.

    Sure I understand that her look this season is about projecting her professional ambitions, about signaling that she's serious about contending for the Waystar throne.

    But for her to ascend to the throne, she's going to have to bring substance, even though this show underlines how much appearances and PR spin matters.

    I think much was made in S2 of Shiv's media savvy and having "the right image" to be the face of Waystar, and her beauty and newfound sharper, more corporate look is part of that, so to a certain extent, style is substance,

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  12. 6 hours ago, ProudMary said:

    Can we just take a moment to observe how stunning that yacht was?!?! I'd think that this episode has to get an Emmy nomination for set decoration. I'd love some kind of breakdown as to how much was shot on sets and how much on an actual yacht. 

    Judging from post-finale interviews with cast and crew about filming 2x10 and the way the production seems to operate in general, I think they filmed everything on the yacht, no sets. This is similar to what they did with the "Hungarian" estate in 2x03 (filmed entirely at Oheka Castle, interiors and all), "Tern Haven" in 2x05 (filmed entirely at a Long Island mansion, interiors and all), and the "Argestes conference" in 2x06 (filmed entirely at the Whiteface Lodge, apart from the nature walk).

    The yacht used was the Solandge, which you can see here. Apparently, it's available for charter for a million euros a week, and I have no idea how the production could afford to film on that vessel unless they cut some sort of deal.

    There's a great writeup here about costume designer Michelle Matland and yacht fashion in the finale. Apparently, Kendall's ridiculous (Paul Stuart) trilby hat was Jeremy Strong's, and J. Smith Cameron loved Shiv's floppy Lola straw hat so much that she bought one for herself.

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  13. Jeremy Strong confirmed that the 2x10 episode title comes from a John Berryman poem, "Dream Song 29," which also contains the "Nobody is ever missing" title for 1x10:

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    There sat down, once, a thing on Henry’s heart   
    só heavy, if he had a hundred years
    & more, & weeping, sleepless, in all them time   
    Henry could not make good.
    Starts again always in Henry’s ears
    the little cough somewhere, an odour, a chime.

    And there is another thing he has in mind   
    like a grave Sienese face a thousand years
    would fail to blur the still profiled reproach of. Ghastly,   
    with open eyes, he attends, blind.
    All the bells say: too late. This is not for tears;   
    thinking.

    But never did Henry, as he thought he did,
    end anyone and hacks her body up
    and hide the pieces, where they may be found.
    He knows: he went over everyone, & nobody’s missing.   
    Often he reckons, in the dawn, them up.
    Nobody is ever missing.

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  14. Lots of great callbacks in this episode, but my favourite was a callback to Boar on the Floor when Tom spitefully called Karl a "sausage thief." Ha!

    12 hours ago, scrb said:

    When did Roman get so business savvy, able to read the room so well?  

    He has always had great intuition (that's why his nasty little insults cut so close to the bone), and he's more business savvy than people give him credit for. He knew from the jump that Vaulter was a garbage website that Kendall was overvaluing, something that Kendall, with his Columbia MBA, couldn't see.

    This was less about business savvy and more about people savvy, though, and Roman is an excellent judge of character, which is why he cares so much about Gerri and has little use for anyone else in the Waystar executive ranks outside his own family. With respect to Zeynal, he probably has a great idea of what coked-up, meaningless bullshit sounds like, because, well, Kendall.

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    And all of a sudden feeling loyal to Kendall, family over the outsiders?  Near-death experience made him oh so wise?

    Why not? I think that the only thing that can truly change a person is trauma, and Roman was legitimately traumatized by what happened. I don't think it made him any wiser--he has always been smarter than everyone assumes--but it certainly seems to have made him more serious.

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  15. Press Release for 2x10:

    On the Roys’ grand Mediterranean yacht, Logan (Brian Cox) weighs whether a member of the family[1], or a top lieutenant[2], will need to be sacrificed to salvage the company’s tarnished reputation. Roman (Kieran Culkin) shares his hesitations about a new source of financing[3], as Kendall (Jeremy Strong) suggests a familiar alternative[4]. Shiv (Sarah Snook) proposes taking her open marriage with Tom (Matthew Macfadyen) to another level[5]. Connor (Alan Ruck) finds himself in an unenviable position as reviews of Willa’s (Justine Lupe) play roll in [6].

    1. Member of the family: Greg, Tom, or Kendall?

    2. Top lieutenant: Gerri or Frank? There is a shot in the 2x10 promo of Logan taking Gerri's hand at the table when he informs everyone that he needs a meaningful skull to wave around for the shareholders' benefit.

    3. Roman's hesitations about a new source of financing: He has misgivings about the Asgarov deal, as we see Laird addressing Roman in the 2x10 promo about what will happen if they don't take the company private.

    4. Kendall's familiar alternative: Since we know Naomi is in the finale from filming pics of the actress in Croatia with the cast where they filmed 2x10, I'm guessing the "familiar alternative" is the Pierce acquisition.

    5. Another level for the open marriage: Divorce, maybe?

    6. Willa's play: I'm guessing the reviews are terrible, judging from Willa throwing her phone in the 2x10 promo...and I assume that will place Connor in an unenviable position because the show closing early will mean that he'll have no way to recoup his investment.

    I'm guessing the finale will be a grim affair, judging from the title ("This is Not For Tears") and these comments from Matthew Macfadyen about what we can expect from Tom in the season finale:

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    What can I say? At the risk of being boring, I don’t know what I can say, and also it’s weird because the memory of shooting it is one thing and actually what it's like is another thing, so I won't say anything at the risk of preempting [the show].

  16. 2 hours ago, sistermagpie said:

    Greg was supposed to inherit 250 million and by continuing to work for Logan he's turning that down. But he think that his grandfather will still leave him 5 million.

    I thought it was interesting that Greg made the same point a lot of fans made after last episode: it could be several years before Greg received his inheritance, depending how long Ewan lived.

    Greg's meltdown over Tom's testimony was an emotional reaction, not a logical one. Greg accepting Ewan's terms and quitting his job at Waystar wouldn't have saved him from any legal repercussions over destroying documents while he was an employee. At most it would have spared him from getting fired as part of a cleanup purge. 

    ...I don't think there will be any long-term legal consequences for the main group for anything related to the abuse scandal--be it document destruction, witness intimidation, or what have you--as much as Tom and Greg fret about going to prison. Someone may get fired as a result of the scandal (the "sacrifice") and/or the company goes private. And of course, part of the point of Succession is that people like the Roys and their inner circle never face any meaningful punishment for their actions.

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  17. 2 hours ago, BlackberryJam said:

    I love the fact that we have a female character who is wearing clothes that are actually business setting appropriate and that can be mixed and matched to assemble a wardrobe for women in real life. Too often we see TV business women in strapless dresses with slits, inappropriate necklines, shoes that would ache after 30 seconds

    *cough cough*Suits*cough cough*

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    The wardrobe for SS is inspiring and helps us look at female characters differently. She's both professional and gorgeous. She doesn't have to give up one to embody the other.

    Yes, Shiv's default S2 outfit of turtleneck + high-waisted pants looks wearable and impeccable. Everything's been beautifully tailored as well, which is really what screams wealth more than any designer label will. (Shiv and Roman mocking Tom's "boxy" suits was a particularly pointed dig.)

    12 hours ago, scrb said:

    She looks great but come on, this focus on her hair and wardrobe is not giving Sarah Snook credit as an actress or the writing of Shiv's character.

    Hair and wardrobe is character in any show or film where they're doing their job right: Shiv shifting from wavy, long, less professional hair to a sleek, straight bob and from unfussy, unobtrusive corporate wear to Marlene Dietrich-inspired power dressing tells us more about her goals and her ambition than any line of dialogue ever could. Ditto for Kendall's ridiculous Lanvin sneakers, Tom's pretentious Italian suits, Roman's conspicuously casual but immaculately tailored shirts, Greg's transformation from Gap-wearing, shaggy-haired lowly employee to Theory-wearing, shorter-haired Tom clone. If a character's hair, wardrobe, and even makeup choices tell you nothing about who that character is, then someone isn't doing their job. And that's much like life: how a person presents himself or herself to the world tells you a lot about how they see themselves, what's important to them, and how they want to be seen. Shiv ditching the long hair and low-key clothes in favour of straight, short hair and capital-l Looks is an external reflection of her internal shift: she wants to be taken more seriously.

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  18. 11 hours ago, nb360 said:

    A Google search helped me answer my question. This from the New Yorker:

    "Shiv’s “new armor” [in season 2]: structured, tailored pieces from the Row, Stella McCartney, Armani, and Max Mara, which match the angular slash of her new blown-out bob.:

    This from Huff Post: "Roy’s style is pretty easy to pull off and is easily available at an affordable price point."

    Comments from the show's costume designer at Vox: "... Michelle Matland, who has been the show’s costume designer"... [Marlene] "Dietrich was a major influence for Shiv’s season two looks, says Matland. "

    Marlene Dietrich and pants -- of course! Why didn't I see the similarities before!

    Michelle Matland really committed to the turtleneck aesthetic for Shiv in S2. Even Shiv's dress in 2x08 had a mock turtleneck collar!

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  19. 19 minutes ago, scrb said:

    You do want to root for Kendall and Naomi -- Kendomi -- but they're two drug addicts.

    Probably not the best idea to pair two junkies together.

    Yeah, the reason they're so cute and happy together is that they're enabling each other.

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    Rhea found out through another senator who Kira was.  But you can question that other senator, who was chairwoman of that committee, since Rhea was known to be the future Roystar CEO. 

    I call bullshit on a fiftysomething woman being named "Kira."

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  20. 17 minutes ago, clb1016 said:

    As for who becomes the blood sacrifice, I vote for Shiv.  Not because of the character or even the story line; I just think that Culkin and, especially, Strong are much better actors than Snook and I’d like to see more of the two of them and less of her.

    Then you're in luck, if I'm right: I think Season 3 will revolve around Roman as heir apparent just as Season 2 revolved around Shiv and Season 1 revolved around Kendall. Roman getting into his father's good graces by securing the Asgarov money seems like the way that that will happen. I don't know what they're going to do about Season 4, though, since Connor seems too ludicrous a character to carry a whole season by himself. 

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  21. 4 minutes ago, Princess Sparkle said:

    I must admit, Tom starting to tear up during the testimony and then his full on crying and hurt when he got back to their situation room did me in. Matthew Macfadyen could've played that as angry, and yet he did it as hurt, and it was so much better that way. 

    He's so great. I really do feel like it could be the end of the line for Tom, and indeed ending up as a patsy to save the Roys would be a natural and logical conclusion for his character, but I would hate to lose the character and the actor.

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    The Roman part took me by surprise, and even though I was pretty sure Kieran Culkin wasn't going anywhere, I was still on the edge of my seat for a little bit. At first, I thought it was a strong arm negotiation tactic.

    Heh, me too. I thought it was all a bit of theatre to soften up Roman.

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    I truly don't know what made me laugh more, "You can't make a Tomlette without breaking a few Greggs" or "Go you fucking lovely bastards"

    What's great about the "You can't make a Tomlette without breaking a few Greggs" is that it functions both as a hilarious pun and as a perfect encapsulation of Tom's attitude towards Greg: by "breaking" him with hazing and casual abuse, Tom will turn Greg into something better, aka (in Tom's mind) someone like Tom.

    I said in the Roman thread that Roman probably has no idea how to offer genuine-sounding praise and encouragement to the Hearts, since he never received any himself.

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  22. One bit I loved was when Roman asked for Laird's choices for "Marry Fuck Kill" for the executive choice, Laird's choice for "Kill" was Ray, aka the frat boy douchebag played by Patch Darragh who heartily enjoyed Boar on the Floor. Excellent choice, Laird.

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    I was shocked to see Rhea fold so easily.   Think you're smarter than Shiv?  Yeah you may have won a battle but you def lost the war. 

    Nan was right that all Rhea cares about is Rhea Jarrell. She didn't balk out of principle, she was just worried that there was more that Logan wasn't telling her about (and that he would never tell her about) that would eventually come out. She made a calculated decision that she didn't want to be mired in abuse scandal after abuse scandal that would damage her (progressive) brand. So from her perspective, walking away rather than going down with the ship was the smart move.

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  23. 11 hours ago, scrb said:

    Roman didn't want to try to make the deal with Eduard when Logan asked him to in "DC."

    I think there's a lack of confidence, which is to be expected since he doesn't have the experience of making such deals or generally in business.

    Logan was desperate and not taking a "no" for an answer so he goes, first to Scotland to sweet-talk Eduard, and then to Turkey for an "investor conference."

    He didn't seem too confident about having to pitch the deal to Eduard's father either.

    Being taken hostage while trying to save family-control over Roystar might give him a leg up on his siblings, at least for the moment.

    If he comes out alive, of course.

    I've thought for a while that Roman's greatest strength, particularly compared to his siblings, is that underneath all his bluster, he has no illusions about his level of ability, and we saw that borne out when Roman hesitated at the idea of being entrusted with the responsibility of something "really important" for the company.

    There was also this interesting exchange in the car:

    Laird: You want to hear 20 of my best minutes on Turko-Azerbaijani relations?

    Roman: What, the oil pipeline cooperation, the military or diplomatic links, or the deeper cultural sympathies?

    Laird (smiling, impressed): Ah.

    Laird is maybe the only person whose opinion Logan truly respects, from what we saw in 2x01, so the fact that Roman was able to impress him is not nothing.

    While Roman's weak, unconvincing pep talk with the Hearts was played for laughs, it's pretty sad when you think that Roman probably has no idea how to offer genuine-sounding praise and encouragement, since he has never received any himself.

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