Zella
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I want the girls to be named after famous biblical harlots.
I want twins--Rahab and Jessabel.
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So they have a preacher theme for the kids names. Willam, Doug, Oral, Jimmy, etc.
Aimee Semple for a girl? ;)
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If they wanted to celebrate Charles Spurgeon, why couldn't they have just used the name Charles Spurgeon?
I would love to know what the rest of the family thinks of this name.
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I can't get the video to work, but I was unfortunately eating dessert when you guys started posting the name. Ben and Jessa's terrible baby naming nearly caused me to choke to death on a piece of pie.
If they were dead set on Spurgeon, why couldn't they have made it a middle name? That poor innocent baby. I don't even think Dickens would have saddled a character with the name spurgeon seewald. :(-
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I'm still able to access it. I don't have an Instagram account, so I don't think she has changed anything.
Google "Jessica Seewald instagram" and the photo is still there.
https://instagram.com/p/9uVB1NGKrj/?taken-by=jessicaseewald
Who leaked it? And can't wait til 40 days are over. Baby number 2 coming.
Ben's sister.
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Oh my goodness that birthday video. You can bet Jessa is filming it and "directing" it all the way. Watch how he keeps looking back at the camera for approval and then the camera shakes oh so slightly as if the one who is filming is gesturing "go on - more" and his little brain is scrambling to remember the "script". That smile was very much an afterthought. Pretty sad.
He's definitely looking for cues! I laughed so hard at the way he nodded his head after he noted, "Your due date was on our anniversary." It's like he's so proud of himself for remembering that one.
One thing that never fails to baffle me about the Duggars and their retainers is how tone deaf they continue to be when they post videos. That birthday video is awful--it reminds me of the first going away video for Jill and Derick, which was also super awkward and bizarre--but they still post it. I don't understand how anyone, especially people who were on television for years, could look at that and not realize "Hmm this should not see the light of day."
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Eww.
On another note: It cracks me up that Jill makes sure you can see her wedding ring while they swap spit.
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I'm with you - it's very disturbing that people don't consider molestation (by anyone) absolutely heinous.
As for the Duggars, damn! Just about EVERYTHING is 'sinful', yet they absolutely discount what their son did to their daughters. That is one bent, broken moral compass the Duggars use.
Their hypocrisy and complete lack of self-awareness are psychologically fascinating.
I was living in Fayetteville when Michelle did the robocalls about how transgender people shouldn't be allowed in bathrooms because they might molest children--I didn't get one because yay for not having a landline, but I talked to people who did get them. One of the first things I thought of when the molestation scandal broke was "Did it honestly never occur to these people NOT to call other people child molesters when you are sitting on top of a decades old child molestation scandal involving your own children."
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It totally blew my mind that everyone from Megyn Kelley to Mike Huckabee and thousands of leghumpers in between were all "How dare you judge! The family already dealt with it! He was only a fourteen year old boy, and no fourteen year old boy totally gets that it's wrong to fondle his barely-out-of-diapers sister! I mean don't you have that in your family? What are you, weird? Stop attacking Christians!" and then when Josh gets caught banging hookers--arguably the most normal thing he's ever done, in a harrowing sense--everyone, including the Duggars themselves, totally clutched their pearls and fainted. I didn't even see a ton of commentary (apart from us guys) connecting the sexual dysfunction of Duggar-style child-rearing, the molestation and the philandering. Which, I mean...duh? Everything about Duggargates I & II, from the incidents themselves to the Duggar PR Circus of the Absurd to the public reaction, is totally mindblowing to me.
One of the things that really confused me when the initial molestation scandal broke was the number of people I personally know who I had assumed were fairly normal people who just automatically defended the Duggars. None of them watched the show, but as soon as they heard about it, they just believed the Duggars were being persecuted for being conservative and/or Christian. That floored me. And then after I explained the Duggars and what the police reports said to each of these people, they were like "Oh yeah that's horrible," but it disturbed me that their automatic response to hearing about a teenager touching his younger sisters against their will was that it was no big deal.
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Thanks for all the feedback on the ancestry tests! The information on police using the databases freaked me out enough that I probably won't do it because I have privacy paranoia issues, but I do find the results fascinating!
I only came in at the end of the Razing Ruth drama when people were actively calling her out, but what finalised that lie to me wasn't the drama necessarily but that she'd supposedly been hired by one of the best Library systems in the US with just a BA and a telephone interview. Nope, sorry, not happening. People with Masters in Library Science struggle to get those types of job, no way are you getting it that easy. Funny its the little things.
I never encountered Razing Ruth online, but I've spent some time reading some of her stuff after she was mentioned here. Her library hiring story is definitely bullshit. I work part-time at a small public library and have done so for several years while in school. At one point, I considered going to grad school and becoming a librarian and did a bit of research on the job market, but I decided to go a different route when I saw how difficult it is to get a job with an MLS.
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i have taken the 23andme and the ancestry. i learned more on 23and me.there are a few good groups out there that can help you understand your results better. it confirmed that the woman i found as my mother's half sister is, in fact, her for real half-sister.
Okay thanks! That's good to know! Ancestry.com keeps emailing me about their test, so I'm a little more familiar with information on that one. But I think if I end up trying one, I'll probably go with 23 and Me.
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Zella, yes, she's been in remission for several years now, thankfully.
That's wonderful news!
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Zella, my SIL had breast cancer and had to undergo the whole chemo and radiation deal. She was sick as a dog and couldn't get out of bed for months. If someone had asked her to participate in a play or take college courses, she probably would have bitch-slapped them. I think most people are good-hearted and want to help when disaster hits. Even if the cause turns out to be false, it's nice to see people still care.
Is your sister-in-law doing better?
What's creepy about the cancer faker is that, as I said, she gave quite a few interviews to local media. On first glance, when everyone accepted her story, the accompanying pictures looked like photos of an inspiring young woman overcoming struggles. But then when the truth came it, I came across copies of the articles and everything about it just looked so fake. The look on her face was pretty much "I'm famous! Look at me!" I think the reporter even said something about "You'd never think she had cancer!" Indeed.
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This is my first time posting on the Small Talk thread, though I have posted on a few other forums the past few weeks. I figured while a bunch of other newbies were introducing themselves, I might as well jump in. :)
Regarding the DNA tests, has anyone here taken the one available on ancestry.com? I was curious about it but also hesitant to shell out that much money.
As someone who only lurked, I must confess I was completely taken by WW's story. I saw the GoFundMe link and had planned to donate but ended up not getting around to it. I only caught the updates on WW the past couple of weeks, so I only knew about Maisie's "health." I hadn't realized WW was also allegedly sick herself.
It's kind of funny how pretty much all of us suspected something was "off" but nobody wanted to be the asshole who publicly accused an allegedly cancer stricken mother of a preemie of being a liar.
This sort of happened a few months ago at the college I attended (after I had graduated). In the case of the school, it was a girl a couple of years behind me who claimed to have a rare form of cancer. I had left by then and didn't really know her personally, but I knew who she was because she had been in all the school plays. There were all sorts of fundraisers for her, updates on her condition, and inspirational news stories about her. I remember thinking it was a little bit bullshitty because she was still carrying a full academic load, working part-time, performing in plays, and maintaining an active social life, in addition to undergoing treatments. But then I immediately felt like a terrible, lazy person for thinking that and just assumed it was true. When it came out that she had just been pretending to have cancer all along, everyone was initially so shocked, but I talked to a few other friends who admitted that they also thought something was odd, but again they didn't want to seem insensitive by calling foul.
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His constable job isn't really a job, it's an elected position that probably has little if any compensation.
I'm not 100% sure about Washington County, but I live in a neighboring Arkansas county and our constables are not paid. Almost all of the constables I know are retired and do it because it gives them something to occasionally occupy their time. I doubt our local constable responds to more than ten to twenty calls a year, but in his defense, he can and does show up much faster than the local sheriff's department when he is summoned.
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I'm not sure that's the case here. I'm from Arkansas and grew up as a Razorback fan (I still am, although it's hard this year since they're tanking so bad) but I never went to U of A. My parents couldn't afford it. But even as a kid I was a fan; that's how it is there. AR doesn't have any pro sports teams and U of A is the only school that has football and basketball teams in major conferences. So everyone is a fan, even if you went to a Christian college. It's hard to explain Razorback madness unless you live there. So in this case I don't think Ben is co-opting anything--he's a football fan rooting for his favorite team. I still have my Razorback sweatshirt from 20+ years ago, and the only way I'll get rid of it is when it's pried from my cold, dead hands. Even then I might not let it go.
Agreed! I've lived in Arkansas since I was a child, and Razorbacks love is pretty strong state-wide. (Where I live, it is not uncommon for every single local business that has its own sign to have messages urging the Razorbacks to victory every week during college football season. I know for a fact a lot of these people never attended the school or sent all of their kids to Arkansas Tech or Arkansas State or some other university that was not the U of A. In fact, when I finally went to the U of A for grad school, my relatives were excited that they had a reason to wear Razorbacks stuff beyond just being fans.) I can't stand Ben, but I don't fault him for doing what a lot of other people in the state who have never and will never attend the U of A do.
One thing that does irritate me about the whole thing is didn't he recently post a blog or Instagram that was being judgmental of people who put sports before religion? Or something like that? I find it hilarious that he is apparently incapable of wearing anything but Razorbacks gear since for him it isn't a matter of school spirit but rather being a fan of their sports teams.
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As someone who has lived in the south all my life, I would consider Josh's use of the word unfaithful as him having sex outside his marriage. His brand of Christianity is way different than anything I have encountered.
Agreed! One tip off for me too is the family tried to minimize the molestation incidents by pointing to things that in no way minimized what he did ("It was over clothing!" "They were asleep!"). I think if his straying had been limited to just porn, they would have tried with all of their might to use that to minimize his actions, regardless of their own attitudes toward the evils of porn.
Of course one could argue that they didn't offer excuses because of the criticism their post-molestation interviews received, but I don't think the Duggars are that self-aware or have learned anything about being more PR savvy, as multiple incidents have demonstrated.
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I'm hoping all their donors are in that room!
LOL Me too!
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Nothing screams classy like "Thanks for the money, now please bring us food".
I had a former college roommate, who I usually liked, who did this at her wedding reception. She was explaining her reception ideas to me--potluck where she doesn't provide anything because she couldn't afford it--and I pointed out that it was really tacky to do that, especially since she was already getting gifts. I also suggested that maybe she should just pick a wedding time where she could get away with serving cake (or maybe wait until she and hubby were a little more mature and financially stable), but she told me this was a "church tradition."
I was hoping enough friends would tell her that it was tacky that she would reconsider, but when I finally got her invitation, she not only had the potluck requirement on there, but it also included a list of all of her and his food allergies and preferences. So you had to bring a dish that did not contain shellfish, dairy, eggs, nuts, alcohol, wheat, and several other ingredients. It eliminated pretty much any food item most people would bring to a potluck. I refused to go but wondered what the spread ended up looking like. She did mention to me the turnout ended up being spotty.
Now I am imagining the reception as being pretty similar to Jill and Derrick's "going away but not going away" party. I don't think many people are motivated to go when you don't have the decency to act like a host and the ones who do go aren't very motivated to cook for you. I don't think the Duggars realize the difference between hosting an appreciation party and other people actually throwing a going-away party for you.
Does anybody know off-hand how many people were invited to this party? Because the attendance does look pretty sparse.
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Yes, but you could read, read a map, and add. .... You also weren't trying to create a teaser for a possible new tv season.
Haha True!
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Gothard HQ bible college. Real seminaries are Master's degree programs that require a BA for entry. Seriously, have the Duggars not seen the Waltons episode where one of the boys 'gets the call' and gets his bubble burst when the Rev. explains high school + college + seminary = Rev.
Someone sit that boy down and explain things to him. His parents didn't seem stupid. We know JimBob and Michelle are not high IQ candidates.
Once again, I get that he wants to preach the word and minister and all, but Bible college, preaching, etc. ARE NOT THE SAME as seminary. I don't think the words they say have much relevance to what they mean. I blame this on Gothard/fundie homefooling scams and all the 'equivalent to' training/education.
Agreed! I truly don't think he or she realizes he needs more to get into an actual accredited seminary.
I also am confused as to why they are unsure of whether it will require them to move. Unless Jessa was just trying to be intentionally vague, the college's location is set. When I was looking at colleges, it didn't take a lot of effort to see the distance from my home and realize whether I could commute or would need to look into housing.
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At the conference, the parents-to-be chatted about their upcoming addition, and Jessa revealed that they could be moving away from her parents' home.
"If Ben's seminary that he's looking into requires us to move, then we might eventually move," Jessa told the crowd.
I would love to know what seminary they are looking into and why they're not sure if it will require them to move. Are they hoping for an all online program?
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If Bin does pursue valid, non-College Minus higher education, I personally see it as more probable that he would go to a school like John Brown University. It's a Christian school. I know very little about it beyond its existence and that it has the divinity courses. (The university where I teach is out of the question; even though it is smaller than U of A, it may have "green haired" students in the classes.)
I've also wondered if he would attend John Brown. It's well within commuting distance for them.
But it might be a little too liberal for their tastes, though it's certainly no U of A.
I didn't attend there, but I had a couple of friends who did a few years ago. One had a nose ring, which didn't seem to be a problem, and the other was an atheist, though the latter still had fond memories of the polite, relatively open-minded discussions her philosophy classes had about other viewpoints. I don't know how representative their experiences were, but those were not my experiences at another private Christian college.
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Yea - I think this is one of those situations where both possibilities are equally horrible and maybe we should hope this is the only one of the two to actually happen.
So true!
Jessa, Ben and Their Brood: Making a (Diaper) Mountain out of a Mold House
in Counting On
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Bahaha So true! I think McPherson would be an improvement, though, since it provides a normalish nickname--Mac.
I'm pretty sure the highlight of my day today was informing my fairly religious grandparents of this news. My grandmother likes Charles Spurgeon, but her response? "Jesus Christ!"