call me ishmael
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I'm actually still trying to figure out what the deal with those handcuffs was. It was such a random thing to add.
I thought it was thrown in there to show that he could escape whenever he wanted but was just waiting for the signal. A way to show how talented he is. But I agree it seemed sloppy writing.
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This may also explain why he seems most comfortable with Lucy. If he was harassed because of dyslexia (this seems a pretty cruel society) and was also, as he sees it, abandoned by D'avin then it would make sense both that he would be most comfortable with the machines and also cling to the security he gets from Dutch who, it seems, he saved and nursed back to (psychic ?) health when he found her.
I realize that this is not a comparison thread but this is yet another reason why understanding the backgrounds of Dutch, Johnny, and D'avin seems infinitely more interesting than the lost memories of Dark Matter.
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Doesn't a lot depend on whether she is Osgood or zygon Oswood?
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The long history is how people got used to it, but the notion that sex excludes a genuinely deep loving relationship is really screwed up.
Now who is not talking talking about Killjoys. And logically the person who is insisting that only some sorts of sexual relationships are not screwed up is drawing on popular puritanical themes more than people who are arguing that human sexuality is plastic and we should not be declaring that some things are "screwed up."
But Johnny is not open to other relationships. (Strictly speaking, you're not even talking about Killjoys any more.) He's not even very open to a sibling relationship. As of this moment, the show has written his effort to save his brother's life as a colossal mistake which he bitterly regrets.This isn't true. Johnny had some sort of ongoing sexual/affectionate relationship with the woman whose husband was leaving her to be arrested when he skipped out on his work permit, he was interested in the young women he met when he was working in those fields in the same episode, and he certainly was interested in Jenny during the vessel episode (who the show predictably killed off). I don't see the evidence that he regrets saving his brother's life. He still feels ties to him. He may not want his brother in the team but I doubt he is the first person who is ambivalent about siblings. That seems pretty common.
Personally, I think that there is less UST there than you do. But I agree that to the extent that the show is pandering to people who think that they should have a sexual/romantic relationship it is bad writing. It seems to cut against a lot of the other interesting ideas in the show about alternative ways of living. But maybe they hate themselves for ever imagining that there might be personal relationships different from the conventional wisdom. :)
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Not caring for people you hook up with is rather like not caring for people you don't hook up with: Both may be fairly common attitudes but they seem to be strange things that people have gotten used to, rather than being understandable. Dutch would be kind of messed up if she can't feel affection for a bedmate, or if she thought feeling affection for someone who reciprocated that with loyalty was somehow disqualified as a romantic partner. Dutch of course could be a loyal partner to Johnny without desiring him sexually and want D'Avin sexually, then feel a bond from making love. Resenting or despising sexual partners seems to be all about puritanical shame, guilt and self-hatred. Dutch/D'Avin romance is perfectly compatible with the Dutch/Johnny partnership, just as Johnny's partnership with Dutch doesn't exclude a relationship with someone else...so I conclude that Johnny loves Dutch, who doesn't love him back that way.
I'm not sure what makes you think that having sex without developing a lot of affection is a recent development or a "strange thing that people have gotten used to, rather than being understandable" it has a long history.
As I said earlier people can want to keep different parts of their lives separate because of various traumas etc. The notion that Johnny has to love Dutch and wants a sexual relationship seems to me to be the common but false assumption that comes from an overly sexualized view of all relationships. And it has nothing to do with puritanical shame of self-hatred. It just has to do with an openness to a variety of relationships between the sexes.
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Well, if Johnny/Dutch as a mutually non-sexual relationship is so believable, then what really is the problem with D'Avin/Dutch as a sexual relationship? It's not just the fans...Johnny's got one too. If it's not because he's in love with Dutch, what does bother him, really? He said he didn't want to choose between them, but as we saw, he hadn't the slightest problem choosing. He even ignored how D'Avin was compelled by the gadgetry, to blame him personally. That's malicious nonsense, so if the real problem isn't D'Avin having sex with Dutch, what is it?
Well for starters, he knows that D'avin walked out on his family and left him with his addicted mother. Why, if you care in any way about someone AND you know that they have suffered abuse and abandonment before would you think that might be a good person for them. And second, maybe Johnny has watched enough television to know that it is not a good idea to add that to a team.
I personally don't find it that strange that Dutch and D'avin might hook up. I do find the implication that they would care for each other so quickly a bit forced.
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I find the Johnny/Dutch non sexual relationship totally reasonable. After all, they are both people with traumatic pasts of being abandoned who are in highly dangerous and stressful situations. Splitting the sexual from the close bonding keeps both sides safe and protected from the possibility of another loss or the posibility of overurdening the relationship.
I'm curious about the bear and wasp business. Obviously K thinks he needs Dutch ready to kill so that they can keep each other alive in terms of what is coming. I suspect that the RAC is actually some sort of cover for something else. An organization that everyone trusts. But i can't figure out if the danger is the RAC or something else.
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Well the show finally gave us a reason to care about their losing their memories. If they actually had any experience they probably wouldn't have been so naive.
Two can't be dead. Besides being one of the leads there are too many questions about her--her healing, her super soldierdom, her recognizing what the space lab was about. Isuppose the writers could think it would be cool to build her up as the most mysterious of the crew and then kill her or maybe they realized they had built or up and didn't know what to do but i hope not.
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The problem, it seems, is SyFy.
Isn't this pretty much always true....
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I still think age was not the reason but the excuse for Jared backing off of Clare. Clare and Jared both would be wise to take time off from romance hunting and focus on other things. The world is a big place. It might be beneficial for them to open their horizons. But not together, obviously.
I tend to agree with this. I just think that Clare is scary and wants something immediately that isn't going to happen. Personally I would run like crazy. What is puzzling is the shift to Ashley I except that he didn't want to leave the show I guess. Otherwise that is really out of the frying pan into the fire in terms of people not being able to let things be normal.
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I'm totally on Team Jade in all of this. Yes, Clare was upset about Jared but after all she wasn't threatened with going home. Instead, because she didn't get what she wanted she had to put down everyone else. I've never really liked Clare, she always seems entitled and acring as if she isn't on a silly reality show--the fact that other people may have made connections while she hasn't is no reason to play holier than thou. If Jared had encouraged her she would have been going on and on about how much more genuine this season was than last year when no one was serious.
I missed the point when Joe laid out his master plan in front of other contestants (i thought he was just saying it to a producer). Who was there and what did he say exactly?
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The winning look at least tried to gesture to the Siren's song with her musical shell. But what put me off wasn't the teeth so much as the eyes. The weird bluish color looked like it would repel sailors rather than lure them close enough to be attacked.
I'm bugged by Kevon. He sulks with criticism and i'm pretty sure that he tried to say what each had done because he was sure that his chest piece was going to make him the winner since the judges had commented on it. I was quite pleased that he wasn't the winner.
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For all of the flaws in the show, I find the desire to find out about their pasts pretty believable. Both Moss and Four I think acted quite normally in trying to find out about their pasts once they realized that they might be more complicated than they were simply wanted. I think that Six is a bit more complicated unless recovering that memory meant that he couldn't avoid the emotional attachments that came with it. Granted I don't think that the show has handled the issue very well but for Moss to rush back to find out who he really was made perfect sense to me.
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So it's possible, now that I think about it, that the show is called 'Dark Matter' as a reference to something that exists but is unknowable. It refers to them and their relationships with their past selves. So it's a metaphor.
If that's so, it's a strangely esoteric title for what is, overall, an extremely clunky show. Unless we suddenly get an interdimensional angle that has dark matter involved I'll have to assume it's like the show Extant (because, you know, the show exists). And, you know, this show also exists but none of us can quite believe it.
Edited for clarity. Haste and all.
I was thinking that the title might signify all the good ideas that the writers couldn't see surrounding the predictable ones they have chosen.
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As for the DE, I've done the math and it has to be next week. And, if my math is correct, Clay/Shelli's eviction this week will be the final before jury.
If that is right it's too bad they didn't get rid of Austin. I feel badly for liz.
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Maybe not entirely, if these turned out to be a new kind of clone that can live without a link to their host. I'm not advocating that, just spitballing the possibility. Especially since they seem to be dipping their toe into the idea of sentience with the Android.
But wouldn't the clone machine be able to tell it was copying a clone? It has to be able to tell the difference between a clone and the original doesn't it? (Even allowing for the fact that this is dark matter).
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Then, there is Two, who is showing herself to be a flaming hypocrite, by bitching out everyone for lying and keeping secrets, but hiding the fact that she can heal as quickly as Wolverine. Nice leader, right there. I wonder if that was what the Android was referring to, or if there was something else she was hiding.
Although i wouldn't put it past these writers to suddenly decide that she has been sneaking around the ship sucking blood from the crew because "hey, we haven't done space vampires!" I think that you are right about her secret being the healing. After all they alluded to her killing all of the bouncers at the casino twice at the beginning of the episode, first when she practically ripped One's arm out of its socket and then when she told them not to draw attention to themselves on the station. They may all be killers and ruthless CEOs but she is clearly more lethal than they are.
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Given that the episode ended on Dutch being more worried about her own capacity for violence than D'avin's does anyone wonder if she is a widow because she killed her husband and that is why she fled wherever she came from and why Khylen claims he is protecting her?
ETA: oops sorry Tigris Tv i missed your comment on this.
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For what it is worth here is a link to an IGN interview with Moffat where he discusses Maisie Williams' character.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/31/doctor-who-producer-steven-moffat-shoots-down-maisie-williams-character-rumorsutm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=TV&utm_content=4&utm_campaign=Blogrollto
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Maybe the writers are the only people who thought it was funny when Jeremy Renner was going around making fun of Black Widow because he claimed she had slept with all of the Avengers.
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Wasn't there a line where Dutch asks Kylen why he was in the Quadrant? It made me wonder if they weren't both from some other part of space. Perhaps she had been trained to infiltrate royalty?
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I think he wanted to kill the first guy who told him because he had betrayed them and then lost it. He just flipped out and then wanted to kill himself but ran out of ammunition.
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I thought it was pretty clear that none of the three things read on the air were the death threats she was referring to. As she described them they were much more precise in their knowledge of where she was physically etc. I think the three CH read were pretty horrible but i suspect that there were a lot worse.
I blame the show much more than Kaitlyn. They are the ones who chose to edit her that way. I doubt that she is the first one to have sex before the fantasy suites or the first one who basically knew who she was picking very quickly. And i really don't see why it is different for her to have sex with a couple of them during the show as opposed to having sex with 3 different guys in the fantasy suite. Except she didn't wait till Fleis told her it was okay.
As far as calling out the guys who voted for Britt, i may have missed something but the one i saw was a guy who claimed that he was on the show to see what happened with her and then she brought in someone new. So she pointed out that he had actually been there hoping it was Britt. A bit sharp but a legitimate comeback i think.
Not that i think she should have let Nick back on. But CH aside i doubt that was purely her decision.
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The other great thing about the Android is that she is able to show a much greater depth of character than anyone else on the ship (with the exception of Six).
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S01.E09: Enemy Khlyen
in Killjoys
That was my assumption. Although as someone said upthread having electronic handcuffs that can be shorted that way is pretty stupid. What if your prisoner goes out in the rain?