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29 minutes ago, ffwbe said:
The message I get is that women can’t do anything for themselves. They can either be born into a wealthy family or marry a rich guy.
These types of SLs are very centered on their female characters. They didn’t do a story of working class Chase struggling when he got suspended from the force. He talked about bills for a ep or 2 until he suddenly became an overnight pop sensation. They did the same thing with Jax in the 90s- his fortune was taken by the government because it was started with mob money and a month later, he won a ton of money at a casino and suddenly had seed money to start his company back up.
i see. I don't see it like that. because i mean. when liz had her big money struggle storyline, she was marrying Lucky - who was equally struggling. (i remember their first apartment with little squish face Cam and everything)
I don't think Chase would have the same issues as Liz would have. (for starters he was single, where as Liz had kids. Same with Maxie). I don't see Liz (or Maxie) not doing anything for themselves, they are doing a lot. (including not really taking help when it would be beneficial)
maybe a part of it is because for the most part women do tend to struggle financially more than men do. We make less money (On average). in this day and age women are choosing to be single mothers. (thus more financial burden). so I think to me it's good that they do show women in these situations - small social issues - with a touch of realism.I really wouldn't expect a mother of two to go off and play high stakes poker to try to get a windfall. (and regardless if they won or loss that's a big chicken gamble right there). Where as it makes sense that a former millionaire playboy would because he has nothing to lose.
I am pretty sure Chase was also working as a private security guard (he just hated it) which also makes a good chunk of change (as much as a detective probably not) - and again. he was independent. (where as the women are not)
i think the fact that Liz managed to do so much while basically having crappy relationships (same with maxie), never really having to depend and never really being "super" wealthy (Liz at all) and whatever Peter had obviously isn't in play but still showing you can be head of your department and run a business (and also showing that it doesn't poof your financial issues away is great). i really don't see it as a detriment. but thanks for clarifying :)-
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6 minutes ago, ffwbe said:
Meanwhile all 3 of them are/were steadily employed and not dependent on some man’s money. Nice message they’re sending there
but you can be steadily employed, not dependent on a man's money and still struggle? (i will admit maybe i am not understanding your meaning but that is a realistic message to me?)
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18 minutes ago, CeChase said:
am still so annoyed that they broke up working class couple Chase and Willow. A teacher and a cop. Now they would be a nurse and a cop. I mean, that's good stuff if you ask me.
yeah. like you usually can ignore the rich drama fluffness because there is often some real life struggles going on. it really SHOULDN'T be maxie. (honestly Chase & BLQ and WIllow and Michael should be arguing a lot about the clear class differences between them. Michael/BLQ grew up affluent. it's one thing to "like vintage" but it's another to NEEDING to buy vintage. if you get my meaning).
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honestly, it kinda makes sense that Maxie is in debt. you don't have to be all super fancy with the kids etc - but it all adds up. and honestly it's the sundry things that get you more than the BIG stuff. all the hair/nail appointments. the coffees, going out to dinner etc.
what they should have done was basically make it that Maxie had shares in Aurora and she lost it all when the insider trading hit.-
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the perfect time to redeem Esme or well just make her very shades of gray was twice. Someone pointed out that what Esme did with the recording was basically 2020 version of Brenda taking naked pictures of Karen and showing them around school and yet Brenda became very beloved.
it was right after Laura told her to just stop being a cow. and she went to go apologize (I firmly believe that was legitimate) Trina accepted but Joss was the cow right back to her and flung Spencer's crush in Esme's face. i would have kept the recording but again have her have a flash of conscience when Cam was being nice to her and then have Adam or whoever leak the video. then you have the whole "who did it". vs Esme struggling to confess what she did becuse she was falling for Cam, and everything. kinda scuzzy, relatively redeemable, sets up 'soapiness' throught the years with Joss/Her/Trina, and not completely psycho (and no need for Ace, as cute as he is).
but they doubled down on her being crappy, and i just feel that's a waste of a talented younger actress-
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1 hour ago, Cheyanne11 said:
Didn't this all start because Drew and Michael wanted to push Ned out of ELQ? They can take several thousand seats with the innocent act.
Before and after Ned said that the merger didn't make a lot of sense. they're so stupid
But they didn't apologize because why apologize when you're a Carly.
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4 minutes ago, Laina said:
How is that? Is it because of Spencer's mom that passed? I can't remember her name. I think she was already dead when I started watching the show.
Courtney. and yes
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8 minutes ago, statsgirl said:
Carly: "I agreed to be Crimson's editor in chief so that I could see Nina's face when I took something that she loved." Carly, you have done nothing but take away things that Nina loved.
it's so great that the death of her mother made Carly reflect about the important things in life.
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7 minutes ago, ljr said:
Does anyone still read printed magazines? Is crimson printed or digital? Will nina start her own magazine?
it's printed (i can't remember if there was a digital version). but it's the reason why she didn't want to buy it from Drew. the print medium is dying (which is sad actually), and it would be a waste of money.
honestly. Nina starting a new magazine would be meaningless. this woman needs to just get some ice cream and get fat. ignore everyone
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55 minutes ago, ffwbe said:
During his last run, they had Jason said he’s always been in love with Carly and should have said no when Sam said she wanted to have kids.
to the 2nd - yes he should have and then let her go have kids with someone who actually treated her well.
To the 1st that is such a load of bull, and the thing is even if he felt that - that just proves me point before. Sonny came home and he didn't even fight for her. so like legit what's the point?. they don't have that chemistry, Jason as a character will NEVER fight for Carly, it's not even the draw of the will they/won't they of Jackson/Erica so like what's the point.-
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10 minutes ago, DanaMB said:
This show sucks. Is there room on the barge.
this week's offering: gingerbread blondies here on La Barge.
4 minutes ago, KittyQ said:hat would be great! Other things that won't happen, but should if the show had any relationship to real life: Carly has an editorial meeting and the employees ask her questions that she can't answer and the first edition she puts out gets roundly criticized;
honestly. my hope of hope is that she did it to screw Nina - but she has some sense in her pea brain of hers that she can not run an international magazine. (they did have people flat out tell Nina how much she sucked for buying Carly's hotel, so it would be nice to see some of that Loyalty to Nina but.. its not gonna happen)
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12 minutes ago, CeChase said:
Nina has an iron clad contract that she can't be fired, so what they did is have Drew threaten to close down Crimson and put everyone there out of work unless Nina signed the letter stepping down. Then when she signed, he gloated that he never would have done that. THEN, because Korte realized being willing to sacrifice for her employees would make Nina look good, they had Drew state that Nina only signed because she loves being a martyr. THEN, they had their pet walk in looking like Elvira with a huge smirk on her face, that was all Laura Wright. Oh, they hit all the bases today.
and this is why i don't watch the show anymore.
but i like chatting with you so i ask questions so i still rage on with y'all lolI always love that circular Nina argument
Nina is selfish and only thinks about herself ---> does something that benefits EVERYONE but herself ---> Nina only liked being a victim/martyr.
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2 minutes ago, statsgirl said:
Drew said that if Nina didn't resign, he would close Crimson and all the employees would lose their jobs. So Nina resigned so that they would keep their jobs and then Drew said that he was never going to do that, he only threatened to to make Nina quit. He said that he's already hired a new editor and Carly waltzes in.
Okay.first of all Drew sucks.
Second of all... doesn't Nina own some part of Crimson? I feel she did (not all of it like i explained but like some?)
Third of all...Drew is back running the company that he committed insider trading and put his co-conspirator in charge? like. do you think the SEC (or stockholders or anything) wouldn't go. "hey um. what, no." like if you don't know this writers just go ask someone..-
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2 minutes ago, statsgirl said:
Agreeing to resign to save her employees shows that she is 1000X better than Carly. Of course Carly, who is barely literate, is going to run a first class magazine now that she has improved Bobbie's.
And after Nina resigns to save her staff, Drew accuses her of doing it so that she can play the victim.
wait. what happened with the employees?
and of course Drew did this. this my thing. Nina can never win. If she didn't - she'd be heartless because she didnt think of them, and now that she does it she's the victim.Just now, LexieLily said:This show seems to have forgotten that Nina is super-rich. Sue the hell out of Drew/Aurora and create trusts for Wiley/Amelia with the money. Use her own money to create an entirely new magazine from the ground up and bring Maxie with her.
the reason why she didn't buy Crimson (when Drew was trying to buy the hotel for Carly), was because she pointed out print media was dying and she was doing all she could to keep turning profits for Crimson but no one worth their salt would buy print right now. (which is true.).
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2 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:
I knew Carly would become the new editor. Good grief.
I can not even even with this.
I hope Crimson tanks. legitimately.
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3 minutes ago, ffwbe said:
If this were real life, Nina could sue the hell out of Drew and Aurora for firing her. She’s covered by the whistleblower protection act for reporting insider trading.
Drew fired her?!
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1 minute ago, Steph J said:
How could Ned have done that, though? A proxy, by its nature, is something that can only be exercised at the discretion of the person giving it and can always be revoked - which is why this was such a dumb thing for Ned to agree to in the first place. It was a "deal" that gave him nothing except the opportunity to be Charlie Brown to Michael's Lucy.
what it is, is, Ned at the end of the day see Michael as family, and as such he doesn't really want to rock the boat. that's why when Tracy laughed and said she gives zero poops about him. She'll be "whatever, nice Quatermaining" because she always appreciates a good Quatermaining (when it's not directed at her). but as a person? That was what she was stressing to Ned about what family was. to her it's Ned, Dillion, BLQ and Leo. [notice she didn't include Olivia in there either] and that Ned needed to get his head into the game because Michael does not care about the Q's (or Ned). unless it suits his purpose.
honestly this is why I truly wish AJ had another kid out there who is utter Quatermaine because so many of the remaining Q's treat Michael as the long lost prodigal and Michael imo realises that and uses that to get his way on things that if it were someone raised in the family they'd be slammed for.
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1 hour ago, statsgirl said:
I also really hate that characters who are the villains had bad childhoods (Ryan, Cyrus, Esme even Nina's coma) but the show doesn't give them a break for that).
There is a debate on this on reddit how no one takes into account Nina's mental health and everything that led into a coma and people keep flinging out "it's not an excuse." and I hate that line so much. It's no an excuse but it's a reality. Nina's entire being is wrapped up in everyone betraying her heinously, keeping life altering secrets from her and then missing 20+ years of her life. She's admitted constantly that's she's stunted in a lot of ways developmentally. People just feel that she needs a week of sessions with kevin and she's cured - and that "owning her actions" would make it better, and I'm like no. She's always going to stumble. She'll probably not react as often as she does the way she does, but the buttons pushed at the right time triggers her "lash out childish" behaviour. Everyone throws her mental illness and all her losses in her face, she has like 3 friends total on the show who are almost always NEVER around when people gang up on her constantly. one family member is never around and the second one mostly always takes Carly's side anyway. it's pathetic
33 minutes ago, statsgirl said:Today Michael to Carly: "Wiley was playing with the truck Nina gave him and it was all I could do not to throw it out the window."
well that should earn him father of the year, eh?
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18 minutes ago, ffwbe said:
Far be it from me to defend Michael but on what planet would Drew expect Michael to choose him over Sonny? Nothing about their relationship has ever showed that Michael genuinely cares about him outside of the guy his mom is involved with and it isn’t his fault that Drew acts like his lapdog because he knows it’ll please Carly. They weren’t close at all before Carly and Drew started being joined at the hip even though they were living in the same house and knew they were related.
you know. I can see it.
Michael was all "OMG my Daddy doesn't love my Mommy anymore, so I am just going to hang out with you , Drew, as long as you tell me how amazing and special I am." which Drew accomplished they were all conspiring to take over ELQ from Ned and I don't remember him telling Drew that he actually can stomach Sonny now. So yeah Drew thinking he is in higher standing than Sonny makes sense since he's stupid and everything-
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48 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:
She didn't do that out of the goodness of her heart. The only reason she attempted to do that was because it was Michael's main condition to keep her secret.
the first time was 100 percent out of the goodness of her heart. she wanted to bury the hatchet and just put everything behind them and so she bought the hotel to give it back to Carly. Carly said she wanted nothing from Nina, and knowing that Willow was Nina's daughter at the time, said to her "Well i have my family, and that's all i need." and walked off with Drew.
20 minutes ago, Sake614 said:Nina initially bought the hotel with the intention of giving it to Carly. Not selling. GIVING. Free and clear. She offered it to Carly, who told her to go to hell and then proceeded to whine to anyone who would listen about how she lost her hotel and couldn’t stand that Nina was running it. This was long before nina notified the SEC and even longer before Michael insisted she sell Carly back the hotel. So she tried to do the right thing and no one was interested.
yeuppers.
That one cracked me up too. and then Olivia got pissy and kept saying "what's your number" to buy out Nina and by that point Nina said if Carly didn't want it, she was going to give to to Wiley and she was gonna make it shine for him.-
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1 hour ago, ciarra said:
And make Sasha her sole heir.
no she loves her grandchildren too much for that. so split three ways.
27 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:I'd like to see her do something for the Carlys that's so significantly good they can't deny it, and then have things go from there. They'll still hate her and accuse of acting in her own self-interest, but at least Nina would have something unarguably decent on her scorecard.
honestly. the fact that she tried to give Carly her hotel back should have been enough. (because i would never have done that). and then on top of that the fact that she said she was going to make into an inheritance for Wiley that was independent of the craziness of the Q stock shifting and Corinthos mob drama should have been indicative that she DOES care about her grandchild but nope.
If she did something - hand to heart one of those dipsticks would say its so that Nina would get an in with them again-
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8 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:
LOL that Michael thinks Ned should lose ELQ because Michael was stupid enough to hand over his proxy with those dumb caveats. Ned, why did you cave?
MIchael handed over his proxy? to whom? why?
I have to say - there really becomes a point where you naturally just stop listening because you're getting yelled at all the time, nod your head and say, "okay fine." and walk off.
9 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:"Here you are, my birth mother. Petty, vindictive, and selfish to the core." That also perfectly describes your mother-in-law, Willow.
that should be Nina's moment. stop defending, stop listening, walk off, and just let her be a judgemental cow. it's not worth it.
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11 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:
Nina to Carly/Drew: Michael knew the truth and didn't tell anybody.
Whooeee, Cynthia's line read on that was hilarious.
i bet it reeked of "So go yell at him, for a change"
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2 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:
His trouble should last about as long as Carly's lasted over the Willow secret.
Carly will absolve him of wrongdoing then convince Willow to forgive him.
I'd like Sonny to find out what his loyal son was up to, though. And the rest.
let me have this, eh? lol
1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:Same, but you know Michael won't be held to account for it. Or any anger will last about 10 minutes, because ultimately he was "protecting the family." Ugh.
i don't think he'll be too happy that Michael was planning on sending him to jail for like ever.
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Episode Discussion II: The TFGH
in General Hospital
well isn't that really part of grieving? just taking a minute and being Dramah about it. I would basically say that anything she says right now is to be taken with 99 pinches of salt.
I mean admittedly. again, I'm not the kind of person who cares about that sort of thing but that's neither here or there, so i am sorry that it does bother you and I can sort of see why it does but i mean. again I think when someone that you care about dies. the Dramah does take over for a bit. and I don't really think it will last that long until she'll want to do something.