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Its Carl! He is freaking useless

The damn tiger couldn't have waited 5 more seconds so we could FINALLY be rid of Carl and his shitty acting

How? Carl would have gotten everyone killed long ago by always acting on impulse and thinking he can take on more people then he can. It worked out this time because Hilltop and The Kingdom saved their ass.

We saw that Rick go against Negan last season. He did pretty good too. Killed like 20 of Negans guys. "That Rick" didn't do so well after that though. "That Rick" was cocky and full of himself and would have gotten himself, his family, and all of his friends killed if Negan didn't want them to provide for them. "That Rick" got Glenn and Abe's heads bashed in. If cocky Terminus Rick was still around CDB would all get their asses kicked quickly. "That Rick" also had Carol saving his ass

She probably did and found nothing. They didn't need a scene showing that. She probably figured she could get something far more useful by fake crying to Eugene. There are plenty of examples of bad writing in this episode. That is just nit picking

Well it would be pretty stupid of her to go off on Eugene since he is the only one there that gives a shit about her and she wanted to get his help

Why should they straight up kill Dwight? They want to fight the Saviors and Dwight was pretty high up in the ranks with Negan. It makes no sense to kill him when they can use him for info

Negan would probably just kill another person or two to make a point. Killing Negan probably only makes things worse for everyone because he is likely the only thing stopping the Saviors from killing everyone

God how disappointed would Rosita be if it is Carl. She thinks she is getting bad ass Daryl, but then the useless Carl shows up haha

OK, so you and everyone there would just get killed then

Rosita is more likely to die

I'm sorry but Rick and Michonne have no fucking chemistry at all

Most of them seem pretty content besides a couple

Nope. Simon just takes over and not much changes. Also they had everyone at gunpoint when Rosita shot at Negan. Safe to say, if she got him the Saviors just open up fire on everyone. What do you think would happen? Rosita shots Negan then all the Saviors lay down their weapons and leave lol?

Rosita got lucky she missed. Its the only reason her and everyone there is still alive

So what happens when Negan doesn't show back up and the Saviors (with Simon who also seems to have complete control and be a psychopath) decide with Negan gone, they don't have to follow his "code" of leaving Ricks crew alive? If anything, Negan (probably Simon too) is the only thing stopping the Saviors from wiping out everyone at Alexandria and taking it as a place to live. Negan's fucked up code is probably keeping them safer then if he was dead I don't think it is a coincidence that Simon and Negan are rarely at the same place at the same time. Simon probably just takes over if Negan ever dies and it might be even worse. Hell if Negan wasn't in charge everyone in Ricks crew probably would have been killed when they got captured last season. Negan dead could be much worse for Ricks crew

Yeah, I just don't see killing Negan making all their problems disappear. And like you said it may be even worse. At least Negan keeps them alive. With Negan dead do people expect the Saviors to all turn on each other (for some reason), free Daryl and give up having three large communities providing them with food and supply? Together, with or without Negan, the Saviors are still by far the biggest and strongest group around. They are not going to turn into nice guys or disbandon just because Negan is gone. Simon seems to love messing with people as much as Negan does I think more people will enjoy it when it gets to the stage that Negan starts facing some adversity. It makes sense that they give him complete control now (even though the writers are butchering it) but its not going to be that way forever. They are likely building to a back and forth war on a larger scale then they have ever done. Hopefully when/if they get there it will be more entertaining

If it were not for Simon, i may agree. Simon doesn't seem like a Dwight, that is only there out of fear, and seems very loyal to Negan and also seems to have complete control of his men as well. Its a pretty huge risk to take at the chance that the Saviors might not retaliate. They would still be giving up three groups providing for them. Hell, without Negan they likely would just decide to hell with this only taking some of Ricks/The Kingdom/Hilltops shit and go kill everyone and move into the much nicer Alexandria. I wouldn't mind Simon taking over though because he is a more interesting villain then Negan IMO

They can't keep rolling the bad guys in and out in a few episodes like with the Terminus. They were a threat for like one episode then got their asses kicked every other one they were in. The writers really are butchering what could be a great villain with Negan though Because they are smarter then to get Simon to bring over 200 plus guys to kill everyone in retaliation?

LOl that would be even worse. Bad writing inconsistent with the character, unrealistic and Chandler Riggs doesn't have the acting skill to pull it off anyway

Did you expect anything more from freaking Carl? The kid is useless. This is the kid that totaled a car and ran over Edith's bike just to kill a couple walkers

She isn't a leader. And if Michonne was in charge, they would fight back and all die

LOL i don't think i have ever head anyone say this

HAHA, good luck with that not happening. It always becomes the Joker show. Fans like him more then freaking Batman

Easy to say when you don't have all your family and loved ones going against near impossible odds. Rick already tried fighting last season (and with better fighters by his side) and it ended up getting him in the line watching his friends heads getting bashed in. And its obviously NOT going to just be Negan rolling up and taking what he wants every week. Rick or someone will eventually come up with some sort of plan that will coast far less lives then foolishly trying to fight the far larger group. Like collaborating with Hilltop and The Kingdom or something. I have seen enough of the "Rick fights back right away and kicks everyone's ass". I like that he is finally challenged and will have to come up with a better plan then just kicking ass. The execution of the story is poor, but the idea is good