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The first season of Grimm, I stuck around only for the rest of the cast because I thought Nick was so boring. He was just the pretty boy to watch. I couldn't decide if it was the actor or the role.I don't know if they are making him deliberately dull...I mean, why would they do that? I think they just don't know how to make him "not dull." On this show, unless a character is Wesen or 'biest (because I still don't think those two things are the same), they are dull.
I don't think that Giuntoli has much range as an actor.
I think that Nick is supposed to be dull (or choose another word) because he's the straight man to the wesen. It's the wesen who are interesting, and Nick is the mechanism for the audience to see how the wesen live among humans. I still love the concept. However, the stars of the show are the wesen.
This show wants to focus on Nick, not the wesen. But he's not interesting at all. Adding drama to his love life doesn't make him more interesting.
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Sorry for the late response.
Interesting...I've always felt the exact opposite, that Adalind gets a pass on her past actions because she was a 'biest when she committed then (the fact that her most evil actions happened when she was not a 'biest is usually ignored), but Juliette is held responsible for everything she did as a 'biest. And, I'm not saying she isn't--I'm saying that Adalind is also responsible for everything that she did (something that it seems to me the show is trying very hard to whitewash.)I think that both of them get a lot of criticism. I'm not a fan of Juliette, so I'm not inclined to give her a pass. And I think that there was some backlash against Juliette after she burned the Grimmabago and set up Mama Grimm.
I will say this...I see both of them as victims. And I do not use the word "victim" sympathetically. I don't mean someone who has been hurt in some way. I mean someone who allows themselves to be put in positions where they can be hurt and therefore not responsible for their own actions. You know, think "victim complex." And I'm really sick of it....I agree. I'm irritated how the writers have written them. Both have been whitewashed for different reasons. Adalind to make the Nick/Adalind relationship tolerable. Juliette to give her character something to do.
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I do think that Adalind is on her way to being evil again--the problem is that the writers can't figure out exactly what hexenbiests, a creature THEY created, actually are. Until they figure that out, I think we're going to get a lot of wishy-washiness on the subject.
I wish that the writers provided details on what Grimms and wesen can do. It was interesting when the books showed physical characteristics of wesen. Like the soft spot on the lower back of blutbaden.
As for Nick, this season has revealed that he is a hypocritical asshole of massive proportions. Juliette turns hexenbeast, does horrible things and she should be banished and hated. Adalind was the hexenbeast who caused all the awful things that happened to Nick, Juliette, Hank, Nick's mom, etc. but she is just the special awesome that should be forgiven. Hell, she's lying about being a hexenbeast again and it's all okay with Nick. At this point, Nick is the most problematic character on the show. His plight no longer rings true because his moral compass; which used to be a central part of the plot, clearly revolves around whomever he has a case of the happy pants for. I'm sure by next season, he will magically be in love with Julieve again, and he will hate Adalind because she is the most evilist evil who has ever eviled. Or perhaps there will be a new love interest in the mix who will be revealed to be some horrid person, but Nick will be able to look past her because you know, he's interested in banging her.I guess he has a thing for women who bring horror and tragedy into his life, as long as they eventually turn into Blandy McBlanderson.I don't think that Adalind's been forgiven. I think that there's a lot of criticism that she's with Nick. When Nick gets back with Juliette, there will be a lot of criticism too. As hexenbiests, they're both manipulative and have done awful things.
Is this show pitting women against each other because the prize is Nick? Of course, Nick can't be with an evil person, so she has to be redeemed and become boring. If she becomes evil again (Adalind), Nick gets to drop her. When she becomes good again (Juliette), Nick can get with her.
I'm irritated that Adalind and Juliette seem to revolve around who gets to be Nick's girlfriend.
I was not aware the show got a renewal until I read your post. I can only hope the network told the producers Season 6 will be their last and they need to start wrapping things up, because clearly Season 5 has done nothing to move itself towards any kind of end-game. Black Claws vs. Hadrian's Wall has been the same sort of ill-defined backdrop that The Royals vs. The Resistance has been for the past four years. They just swapped out one enigmatic premise for another.I agree. If S6 is the last season, I don't know how they'll offer adequate closure when there are so many questions and dropped storylines. Even now, nobody knows what the Magic Stick can do or what its history is. I also would like to know what has happened to some of the wesen, like the young blutbat that Monroe helped.
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This episode is full of fluffy fun.
Cold looks hot as the Man in Black.
Ray's passion to be a hero is sweet but someone needs to remind him that movies&TV are not the go to when heroing.I like Ray, but he's a needy Boy Scout. I question why it's so important for him to be a hero. It's not going to fill that empty void.
I do hope Ray and Kendra get pushed back into the background soon. I don't care about their love. It's doomed and basic.It is basic!
I really liked the actress who played Older Kendra. Anna Deavere Smith was amazing. Loved her speech. Past generations of Kendras have watched Carter die. Past generations have genuinely loved other men. Each generation dies at the hand of Savage.
She accepts her destiny. She sounds sad but doesn't feel sorry for herself. She lives by herself to spare the mutual pain of another non-Carter coupling. Heartbreak and death are the only two choices in her life.
Replace Young Kendra with her.
Young Kendra is officially a Mary Sue. Her relationship with Ray is meh, but because she's special, she and Ray will last. Their relationship won't be anything like the ones that Older Kendra experienced.
Anyway, regarding Mick breaking his brainwashing - it kind of works for me after his line to the Hunter guy "I was never on your side. I was on mine" or something to that effect. He wasn't taking orders from the Time Masters - it's just that what they wanted him to do fit with the fact that he was pissed at the gang and wanted to hurt them. Like he told Snart, they barely had to ask.I liked that Mick went along with the Time Council because he benefited from it. Everybody except Sarah had a self-inerested reason to join. Mick was just being honest. I will be disappointed if he and Cold stop stealing and looting.
Pilgrim from Jim Lee's Wildstorm imprint? Now, if DC could revitalize my beloved Grifter without making him a douche...
I hate to say it, but Rip was kinda hot at the dual. When he pushed his coat aside to pull out his gun...
If Rip's backstory didn't include a dead family, he would be so much better. He stayed on the ship to sulk and to plot the next move.
Forget about the Time Council and the dead, boring family. This show should be about helping people, having fun, and screwing the timelines. If Rip's purpose is to middle-mange a bunch of likeable monkeys with blowtorches...well, that's your premise right there.
Anti-heroes who inadvertently do some good. Or at least don't make it worst. [That's your tag, Berlanti. You're welcome.]
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My sexy pants Renard needs to keep it in his pants and stop acting like a box of dead hair.
I want to hold out hope that Renard will get smarter.
Nick is idiot. When the shows hero has to be dumbed down or turned into an idiot in order to sell the other characters (nod dead Juliette, etc) there is a huge problem.I think that it's only for Juliette's benefit. Nick is an idiot, but his idiocy doesn't deter from how good and likeable the other characters are.
Yes, I think the answers are yes she will do anything. The ends justify the means. Trickster tactics nullify consent. Like I've said before, the writers think this is naughty. Not criminal. It is very messed up.
Same with Adalind. She rapes Nick, but this show thinks it's about being naughty. Or that it's OK because they end up together in S5.
Absolutely, he finds out she's re-hexening, hasn't told him and he's going to just go with the flow. He was stupid from the beginning --not getting a paternity test, drifting into a relationshiip with her -- and now he's also fine with her taking the baby out of the fortress and into the law firm daily. He just appears weak and stupid.
He's ready to be manipulated by Adalind. If I liked Nick, maybe I could sympathize.
If not the establish some nice of nuance of the reactions, why do we sit through characters tellings us about something happening that we also already saw? Show, not tell, bitches.I hate when a show does this. Don't tell us what's happening. Show us. The writers seem to want to use a narrative to explain to the audience what it should be feeling or how it should react instead of allowing the audience to draw its own conclusion.
I LOATHED this episode. I am continuously appalled by how they just don't seem to get that what they're writing is rape. But even if I accept and ignore that because it's clearly not going to change, we got the clunkiest most exposition heavy scenes out of it. Juliette tells Nick, who has bizarrely zero reaction when realistically (even if he were trying to play close to the vest) should've had some reaction to hearing that the action Adalind did that destroyed their relationship, she now does loosy goosey because it's convenient for espionage. He didn't even blink.You would think that maybe Nick would react later or that he would start to plot against Adalind. No, he'll keep her out of the loop, but he'll still play house with her.
I still side-eye Juliette/Eve for being meh about what she and Black Claw lady did. Juliette was pretty pissed at Nick and Adalind when Adalind raped Nick. Now, it's no big deal when she does it for the sake of the mission. As a biest, she's as manipulative as Adalind.
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That is totally bad-ass.
Don't forget, another biest fight is coming. Juliette/Eve has to prove that she's the big bad hexenbiest, so she threatens Adalind as foreshadowing to their inevitable fight. Gotta remind people that Adalind will cower and run away from special snowflake.
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I disagree. We were told from the very beginning that Hexenbiest are manipulative and saw Adalind in action several times on the show. Catherine asked Adalind in s2 if she still had feelings for Renard and the answer was does it really matter and her mother said she trained her well!
Juliette started off as the good girlfriend and morphed into a hexenbiest that should/could have given Nick time to deal with their new relationship and her first thought is to dump him and screw his boss. No. We all make choices in life and Juliette chose to screw over all of her friends and boyfriend.
Arguably, I think that Adalind could have been manipulated and be the manipulator. Even if Adalind has been manipulated, I don't give her a pass.
What I didn't like was that Juliette has done the same things, but it seems like she gets a pass. She's a victim because she drank some potion. It shouldn't have excused her attempted murder of Nick and Mama Grimm's murder.
Now, they're both biests. They should both be manipulative. If so, Juliette should be criticized for her actions as a biest.
However, Adalind is forever evil. Juliette is forever the victim, so she should get a pass for anything she does. No. Both should equally be raked over the coals for their actions.
I still loathe Juliette. I still root for scheming Adalind (not the neutered version who's living with Nick).
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I don't give her a pass with a brainwashing excuse either (although, reading my post that you quoted, I admit it totally sounds like I do). I mean, I would if she had no memories of her life as Juliette....but she does, which I think means that she has enough, I don't know--sense--to know what she's doing. What I was trying (unsuccessfully) to say is that Juliette has debased herself or at least allowed herself to be debased enough that she is willing becoming a prostitute. Which is really not all that different from what Adalind did.
I could arguably understand the brainwashing of Juliette because she was abducted and made into a weapon. However, Adalind has also been manipulated too.
If they're both biests now, don't they have the same characteristics? They should be both manipulative and capable of doing questionable stuff. They both used sex for manipulation.
My main beef is that Adalind the biest is always evil but Juliette/Eve the biest gets a pass. Juliette's history has been parceled to determine when her actions her not her own and therefore, is a victim. Adalind's life could arguably be parceled as well, but she doesn't get a victim card.
This show is trying to make me hate women. Ugh. Hate Adalind. Hate Juliette. I question why? There will be another biest fight between them. For Nick? He's the prize at the end of the rainbow? Ahhh, no.
Adalind could have been the villian that people loved to hate. She could have been unapologetic in her evil. She could have been Nick's equivalent in a Rogue's Gallery. Like Batman and Talia.
The show wanted to make her good, Now, the show is going to make her bad again. Except for Bud and his buddies, nothing good happens when wesen are in groups, i.e., in the law firm. Like Juliette, this show doesn't know what to do with Adalind. Right now, she has nothing, so she goes to her enemy for protection and occasional good times. When she's getting her life together and got a job, it's the start to turn her back to evil. What?
Even now, Juliette's supposed to be empowered. How does this show women's empowerment? She sleeps with Black Claw lady for information. How can she be empowered if she's a shell of her former self? I can't believe that this show stripped a woman of her being, of her memories, of her history. She's nothing but a robot to do the bidding of some organization. She was kidnapped and made to submit to do so.
[i'll hate-watch the episodes I didn't watch because now, I'm angry about what's going on with the women on this show. I may loathe Juliette, but she doesn't deserve what has happened to her. Neither does Adalind. They won't get a pass from me, but this show has done a disservice to them.]
[same with Trubel. The last time I saw her, Meisner was opening the cage, and she had a black eye. WTF?]
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The one difference between Adalind's situation and Eve's situation is that Adalind did her thing in order to rape Nick--there was no question that was her intent. Eve didn't know that the evening was going to go down that way. I'm not giving her a pass--there is this word that any man or woman should be empowered enough to say and that is "No." And, not that I'm advocating force, but Renard (er, Evenard) is bigger than Rachel and could have disentangled himself/herself/whatever. So, yeah...the latter case was bad...but it was different than what Adalind did. And, therefore, different coals should be used for the raking.
I'm OK with that. The writers are writing similar scenarios for both women. Neither of them gets a pass.
For example...has Juliette (yes, Juliette!) actually been brainwashed to the point or lost any sense of self to the point where not only is willing to steal someone's identity but also basically prostitute herself? Had she known ahead of time that Rachel and Renard had a physical relationship and therefore known what could or would happen, would she have been able to perform (and, yeah, THAT would have been flat out rape)? If she is willing to at least try to sleep with Rachel for information, who else would she sleep with and what else would she do?Adalind has been manipulated by men since the pilot. She's been isolated in a dungeon, mindfucked, and whatever else in order for her to submit. The Royals also manipulated her to do their bidding when Adalind mistakenly thought that they had Diana.
Arguably, she has been brainwashed as well and should get a pass for a lot of the heinous stuff that she did. Personally, I don't give her a pass no matter what her mindset was.
I also don't give Juliette a pass despite the so-called brainwashing. The writers want Juliette to be a victim and to be empowered at the same time. Am I supposed to sympathize with her because Nick or Meisner screwed her over? When she takes an active role in Black Claw? When she's "eh?" about sleeping with Black Claw lady? Or that she wasn't herself when she tried to murder Nick or to conspire to murder Mama Grimm?
She became a biest against her will, so she wasn't herself when she tries to murder Nick. Therefore, she's exculpated from her actions. I don't believe any of that. At some point, she needs to have some responsibility for her actions.
[same with Nick. At some point, he's no longer a victim when he's living with Adalind. He doesn't trust her, but he chooses to return to that depressing compound. It's irritating that Adalind is the manipulator in the relationship while Nick has some version of Stockholm syndrome. Adalind is the evil one while Nick is always her victim.]
Meanwhile, Adalind doesn't get a pass. At all. No matter how used she's been. Everything she's done is evil, and she's 100% responsible for everything she has done. She's never been played as some victim.
I'm trying not to sound like an asshole, but I'm sure that I sound like one. I just think that how Juliette/Eve has been written, the writers want it both ways. She's a victim, so she gets a shield from criticism and from her actions. She's also been empowered, so she gets a pass for whatever she does, including threatening Adalind. But it seems to be acceptable because Adalind is always evil and because Juliette is always the wronged victim who wants her life back.
I'm not excusing anything that either of them has done.
But, most of all, I find this whole thing--the way this show has handle sexuality and relationships--to be offensive and nauseating. And I'm afraid of what they are going to try next.
I agree. Adalind, Juliette, and Trubel have been treated very badly by the writers. I'm going to hate-watch the episodes that I missed, and I cringe at what has happened to them in these episodes.
I have no idea how they could treat women so badly on this show.
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"Wait what, Rachel is saying Renard needs to be a family man so he should marry her?""Rachel wasn't suggesting Renard marry her, she meant Adalind."
Sorry for the confusion. I didn't preface the post and wasn't clear. I don't think that Black Claw lady wants to marry Renard. She likes the behind-the-scenes power. I was amused that she was doing everything that a female would stereotypically do to get a proposal, e.g., bait him with a kid.
There's also the Wesen Council.Not any more...
Thanks for letting me know. I guess I'll have to hate-watch the episodes I didn't watch to continue to comment.
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The one difference between Adalind's situation and Eve's situation is that Adalind did her thing in order to rape Nick--there was no question that was her intent. Eve didn't know that the evening was going to go down that way. I'm not giving her a pass--there is this word that any man or woman should be empowered enough to say and that is "No." And, not that I'm advocating force, but Renard (er, Evenard) is bigger than Rachel and could have disentangled himself/herself/whatever. So, yeah...the latter case was bad...but it was different than what Adalind did. And, therefore, different coals should be used for the raking.
For example...has Juliette (yes, Juliette!) actually been brainwashed to the point or lost any sense of self to the point where not only is willing to steal someone's identity but also basically prostitute herself? Had she known ahead of time that Rachel and Renard had a physical relationship and therefore known what could or would happen, would she have been able to perform (and, yeah, THAT would have been flat out rape)? If she is willing to at least try to sleep with Rachel for information, who else would she sleep with and what else would she do?
But, most of all, I find this whole thing--the way this show has handle sexuality and relationships--to be offensive and nauseating. And I'm afraid of what they are going to try next.
Reply in Juliette thread.
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If Adalind and Diana and Even each have the power of telekinesis, they could be the ones to lock him in the tunnel. But if course he will have the wand there to fight back with?
Let Nick stay trapped in the tunnel while he tries to figure out what the stick can do.
Did Rachel actually say that she thought Renard should propose marriage after a couple weeks of knowing him?I thought that she was hinting hard for a proposal. And Renard is trying to fall asleep. Ha! I thought that it was typical behavior for a man who didn't want to be trapped.
She brought out Diana as bait. She's trying hard to be Mrs. Shirtless Rage and First Lady Consort of Fake Portland.
Renard is very nice to look at, but I'm quite sad that he's as dumb as a box of hair.
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Minimal Juliette/Eve which is the 2nd best use of the character/actress (best would be off the show entirely).
I wasn't planning on watching this episode until I saw your post. It was refreshing to have minimal Juliette and her robotic badassery.
Re: Nick.
Nick can't figure out who the bad guy is, so he goes All Grimm on the wesen couple. He's such an ass. And a terrible cop.
If a Grimm cop started harassing me, I would tell him to pound sand. He needs to get off his lazy ass and be a cop first. If he can't figure out how to do his job, too bad. He doesn't get to gather evidence, to solve a case, or to call himself the good guy by threatening people, who were innocent.
If there are wesen law firms and wesen doctors, I bet that there are wesen courts. There's also the Wesen Council.
He's also an ass for not trusting Adalind but still playing house. End it already, you asshole. The longer that Nick plays house with her, the less I see him as a victim. Every day that he comes back to that depressing compound, it's his choice. Idiot.
I think Adalind would have a hard time bringing up that her biest has returned. Yes, it is up to her to tell Nick, but I do understand the fear. She has a nice, normal life now. Unfortunately, denial won't make it go away and she will go back to the new rotted face look. The law firm's daycare, if filled with Wesen, will make baby Kelly very happy. Fairytales come to life!Eve and her laziness/showiness is eye roll worthy. I'm a little confused. If she's supposedly NOT Juliette, and doesn't have J's emotions - why (after saying specifically that she wasn't Juliette or they'd have a hexie showdown) did she tell Adalind that if she hurt Nick, she'd come after her? Decide what you want her to be writers!Eve isn't Juliette, but she looks like Juliette and still has her memories buried somewhere. It's quite convenient.
Does Juliette get a pass for huffing on the sorting hat, having sex as Renard, and taking advantage of her biest powers? Does she get a pass for being scared of telling Nick that she has transformed into a hexenbiest? The same stuff that Adalind did for which she didn't get a pass.
Or is it because the writers continue to showcase Juliette/Eve as some victim? Even though she was the one who threatened Adalind. Even though she's the alpha female of the show. Adalind's the incompetent biest who has to cower to the badass alpha biest.
If this show ends with Juliette and Nick as end game, does she get a pass for playing house with the murder victim's son? Adalind's not getting that pass, and she doesn't deserve it.
Victim or badass robot. Choose what the special snowflake is.
Re: Renard. The organization is playing him, and whoever that woman he's banging is honeypotting him. Unless he starts shirtless raging, his storyline is boring.
The writers still don't know what to do with the magic stick. They're insulting the audience if they think that merely revealing the long awaited Magic Stick can satisfy the audience. This sad show has been renewed, so they think that they have another 100 episodes to figure out what to do with it.
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Perhaps Eve is being kind to Renard by not telling everyone about his bedroom failure. I guess by "slept with" she could mean that they were in bed together even if the deed itself didn't come to fruition.I thought that it could still have been 3rd base, which is still sex. Or that Renard/Eve did stuff, but whoever the Black Claw person is couldn't reciprocate for Renard/Eve. Still sex.
I'm not giving Eve a pass for "slept with." People know it means sex. Eve didn't hold hands with Black Claw lady and act chaste.
Same scenario that Adalind did. No fucking way that Eve/Juliette gets some pass while Adalind gets raked over the coals for it.
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He also does other fun things like correcting pronunciations of German words and giving shout-outs to stunt men in a fight scene.
Maybe he should do commentary on the early Grimm episodes.
During S1, there was discussion about the use of German words. The German word used for Reaper was for a wheat reaper/wheat thresher.
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Is that what the kids are calling it these days? (Not often you get to make a Jacasta joke!)
Ack. Now, I want to blind myself.
I think the writers just have a list of time travel plots they need to cover and this week it was a variant on the 'Kill Hitler' trope (customary warning: this is a link to TV trope, click at your own risk), so all the more sensible choices the team had in order to deal with this situation were just being ignored in order to have a philosophical debate among the team members (exc. Kendra) on the morality of killing a kid.I agree. It's the thing to do with time traveling shows. This show needs to learn from Futurama: you try to get rid of Hitler, and you end up killing Eleanor Roosevelt.
And I'm irritated that Rip leaves time in such a mess. They're leaving Kasnia, but they accelerated Savage's timeline. Now, they're heading off to another time/place to try to fix what happened by doing the same thing again.
But they knew for certain in just five years he was responsible for millions of deaths. Maybe that is what they should have done, skipped ahead to right when he was taking power and in a position to give the kill order. Maybe they should have gone after the version that was pretty much a sure thing (being evil I mean) rather than the teen ager that felt like a lost cause but was just young enough for them to live on hope. Had Rip brought them to the day before Per Degaton took power and planned to kill everyone, I don't think anyone would have hesitated to kill him.I'm OK with that. I don't have a problem with stopping Baby Hitler when he's amassing power or right before he uses the Doomsday Virus. Even now, I don't have a problem with putting him in prison for patricide and treason.
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Except for Sara, nobody deserves to be a Legend.
Kendra has the most boring storyline. While the team is trying to do something, she's in her room and is thinking about Carter. And Carter was boring because his storyline was about how much he loves her. Relationships are the worst.
I'm surprised that Ray's immediate assumption was that he fathered a child in 2016 and left him. I assumed that he would survive the mission and would have a family.
Savage knows where the cloaked ship is; I'll assume because he can sense Kendra. I was distracted by his version of O. Rex.
I'm glad that Mick and Cold hugged it out. Purcell is really good in the episode and shows how perceptive Mick is. If they're not on LOT for S2, I still want them to cause trouble in Central City; and if they beat the crap out of Barry, I wouldn't be unhappy.
Sara facilities Mick and Cold's relationship. Is there anything she can't do?
Ha! I love the Cold Canary moment. If they're doing it, at least let me be a voyeur to it.
If it wasn't for Sara, Cold, and Mick, I would be on Team Baby Hitler. Rip is the worst. He's willing to sacrifice a minor who hasn't done anything to save his son. Yeah, Rip, tell me again how it's not about your boring family. He is so damn insufferable and has absolutely no credibility about the purpose of this mission. And he's a terrible Time Master.
When he couldn't kill Baby Hitler, it doesn't make him noble or heroic.
Is it bad that I was on the side of Rip and Snart to kill the kid? Because I do believe that killing a mini Hitler isn't the worst thing, especially if it saves billions of lives. Of course, that could backfire with an even worse mini Hitler being born, but the reasons for killing Per Snickety...I mean Degaton, are pretty valid. I was annoyed with Stein who insisted that they couldn't kill the kid because he's a kid and because Rip's reasons are just to save his own son. I don't know; even though Gideon said that Savage still would have taken over the world, I would think killing the kid would save at least half the lives that would have been killed right away. Honestly, Stein can shove his self righteousness somewhere else, because as much as I like him, this episode he was just annoying.I didn't like Stein in the beginning because he was self-righteous, but he and Jax are right. Baby Hitler is a minor who hasn't done anything.
Rip is willing to believe that Sara and Mick can be redeemed. Why can't this kid be redeemed? He's still young and impressionable. He assumingly has a mother, and he was dreaming of baking cookies with her. His father doesn't seem like Adult Hitler. Get Savage away from the kid and see what happens.
Rip is too lazy to try anything different. Killing or kidnapping. He could have taken the kid into the future to show him that Savage kills him. He could have taken the kid and his mother to a distant place/time to live. He could have figured out how to stop the kid from creating a Doomsday Virus. There are lots of ways to neutralize this kid without killing or kidnapping him.
Also, he has 4000 years to stop Savage. He didn't have to travel to this time to kill a minor. A lot of steps in 4000 years have to be taken for Savage to rise to power.
Furthermore, with each time that the team visits, Savage still rises to power. Same here. Kidnapping Baby Hitler didn't stop Savage's rise to power. So killing/kidnapping him is not a panacea.
Sounds like Savage's rise to power is the de facto timeline. Everything the team tries doesn't stop Savage. Here, take the kid out of the equation by kidnapping, and Savage still rises to power. Maybe Savage doesn't need the kid's Doomsday Virus or accesses it without help from him.
Savage's timeline seems to be the one that's immutable, i.e., his timeline self-corrects to ensure that he rises to power. It doesn't necessarily mean that the kid's timeline can't be changed. Or that the kid can't be changed.
Vandal Savage and the kid were right--these guys are weak and ineffective (especially Rip).Yup, Rip is ineffective and an idiot. He shows himself to be weak on Baby Hitler's terms. Rip's actions expedites Savage's timeline.
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I cannot believe that this show got another season. These writers better start coalescing these splintered storylines. I wish that the writers would re-watch S1 or ask Aleka Cooper for tips. I feel secondhand embarrassment for the actors except Giuntoli and Tulloch.
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HUSH HUSH! I want Timm do make HUSH next! With DCAU original cast: Kevin Conroy, Loren Lester, Adrienne Barbeau. David McCallister as Alfred; Mitch Pelleggi as Gordon.
I liked Hush, so I would hope that Timm is planning it in the future. I hate the look of the new Justice League cartoon. They look like kids.
With the new Justice League and solo movies, I would like Timm to revisit the 90s Justice League.
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The Nick and Adalind pairing is horrible. Yeah, Adalind was a horrible hexenbiest who literally screwed Nick. I don't give her a pass for her actions.
Nick doesn't get a pass. He and Mama Grimm kidnapped Adalind's baby. He took it upon himself to decide what was the best course of action for Diana. He isn't some hero.
The relationship is distasteful, but both of them are terrible people. I don't sympathize with either of them. (I like Coffee, and she does the best with what she's given. I couldn't care less about Nick or Giuntoli.)
I'll sound like an asshole, but I roll my eyes at their relationship. I don't feel sorry for Nick for this situation, and I'm not going to put 100% of the blame for this relationship on her.
I find him as insufferable as Juliette.
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I hope Grimm gets another season to cleanup and fix all of their major mistakes.In ONE season?
I'll guess that Grimm gets 13 episodes to finish. I can't imagine how they'll fix their mistakes in one season.
These writers must think that they're going to work on this show forever. They're still world-building with the magic stick and another secret organization.
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I agree with all of those points. Especially that Nick's sex life should always have been on the back burner, and that they're so unoriginal as to retread Adalind's pregnancy and hexenation. Revisiting past wesen we've met and fleshing out their stories would be better than what we're getting now. Where's Bud? How are the eisbiebers reacting to the 'uprising'?
The most interesting part of this show is the wesen. See wesen through Nick's eyes. Instead, the focus is on Nick. Not Nick's adventures into wesen territory. It's Nick's personal drama.
I would rather watch wesen character development. I want to see how wesen live in their own society and live among humans. Nick's interaction with the eisbiebers was likeable. More of that, please. And more Bud!
Hank is my favorite, too, and I've always thought he was smarter than his partner. If they gave him much more material I fear it would also be of the romance variety which they might mess up. Back in the second or so season they had him encounter someone from high school who turned out to be wesen, so he is apparently from the area and they could work some more of that in. Same with Wu. I wish they would instead of all this Nick drama. I know he is the Grimm, but he's gone kind of stupid and annoying. I used to like him quite a bit.Love Wu. When given a good storyline, Wu can be more than comic relief.
Hands down, Hank is the more likeable character on the show. He brings a thoughtfulness and calmness to his relationship with Nick. And he knows what a whirligig is!
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I see what you're saying. Personally, I didn't have the same reaction to what I've seen of Eve (I haven't seen most of the recent episodes, after all). I did actually feel the Eve vs. Juliette tension is some of the scenes and I did feel that I did see some of the humanity. As for "robotic," I don't think it is a good choice for the role--but I also don't think it was her choice.Not only that, but someone pointed out that at one point she sounded angry, so she can't even do robotic consistently.
Tulloch also said that Eve was a badass. Who wanted Eve to be badass? Tulloch or the writers? Or was it a collaboration--as Tulloch likes to say?
I think that Tulloch has a little more leeway in terms of how her character evolves.
I think that Clare Coffee is the one who was screwed. She doesn't know how to play Adalind. Is it a long con? She has to cover all the bases.
Re: direction
I thought that the whole point of acting is for the actor to interpret the character/scene. Tulloch may get direction for her character/scene, but isn't she also supposed to bring her own interpretation to her character/scene? If not, what's the whole point of acting? What's the point of her acting?
I can't help but be amused by robotic badassery. Maybe that should be taught in acting schools.
Okay - I don't know if someone mentioned it elsewhere, but the sixth episode of Portlandia, season 6 has a funny extended skit with Juliette/Bitsie in it. It isn't the most brilliant one they've ever done, but conceptually it's pretty good. The idea is that she calls a cab instead of a Lyft (which Fred Armisen's character Doug drives) and at the cab company, it is a scene of historical office furniture, phones, and people from the 70s or 80s who move at a really slow pace and Carrie Brownstein drives in an anemic fashion. ha. oh.. there is a link on youtube but it doesn't show the whole thing and was edited down quite a bit
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be watching. Tulloch's scene was OK, but there was nothing special about it. Other actors could have done as well. At least Tulloch looks like she has a heartbeat.
The MVP of the scene was the cab driver's glamour.
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I've watched a few episodes of S1. I don't know if Barry gets better, but he's such a whiny little bitch. No wonder Iris chose hot detective over him.
The S1 finale was all about precious Barry, who's weighing the fate of the world against saving his mom. Even his dad said not to do it.
He's no Wally West. In the animated Justice League, Wally is the heart of the League.
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I agree with comments above to the effect that, if the Adalind thing is supposed to be a long con, it is poorly executed. My guess is, it is not a con, but the writers have not clued the actors in one way or another, so CC is playing it straight yet somewhat ambiguously -- maybe she can't believe that the storyline is for real either.
The moment that Adalind regained her powers, it looked kinda comical because she didn't believe it was happening but sorta did.
Coffee must have been frustrated by playing that scene because she's in the dark about Adalind's motivations. She doesn't know if it's a long con or not, so she has to cover all the bases. Some people didn't feel that Coffee was bringing it in that scene, but I think that she was at a disadvantage about how to play it.
LOL. Mr. Sexy Pants is a tall glass of water! Meisner and Wu are about the same height.Meisner and Wu? Wow.
I think that SWM is close to the same height as SR. I love the photo from SR's IG where he's taller than the shower head.
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I like when this show is full of fluffy fun. I didn't want too much seriousness to get in the way of fun entertainment. Meh episode. I already forgot it. At least Jefferson was given something to do. Sara is always badass.
My biggest problem is Kendra. I thought it would be Ray since I find him bland & boring, but it's Hawkgirl & I desperately wanted to like Hawkgirl.
I'm trying to give the actress room to grow as an actress because I find her weak, but that's not the main issue for me. It's superficial as hell, I know, but the actress's teeth and/or jaw alignment drive me batty. I don't know if it's an overbite or a jaw issue but my eyes are drawn to it every time she's in the shot & I feel my own upper teeth jutting forward in response. I've tried not looking at the screen & just listening when she is in a scene but I still picture her jawline. I didn't realize I notice jaw alignment as much as I do & I'm not even sure why I do. It's ridiculous & silly but I can't seem to move past it. I find myself almost wishing Savage would put her out of my misery.
She's still the weakest character, and her role should have evolved beyond Savage's obsession and former barista. I wouldn't be too sad if she was replaced.
I thought that I was the only one who stared at her jaw. When she's not speaking, she doesn't close her mouth; and it's distracting. Maybe it's a structural issue for her. She's still a very pretty actress.
That scene with Kendra + Savage = squick
I'm anticipating the next episode.
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Grimm Spoilers and Spoiler Discussion
in Grimm [V]
I think that wallpaper is the best that Giuntoli can do.
It's weird because a bastard prince fled to Portland to hide.
If I lived in Fake Portland, I don't know if I should be insulted or flattered. Fake Portland is the epicenter of everything (with its VooDoo doughnuts). But it's the biggest mess of a city.