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On 11/30/2018 at 4:59 AM, VCRTracking said:
It's a better retcon than the time they made her seem like a "tomboy" who always wore masculine clothes in that episode where Claire and Gloria took Lily shopping for her flower girl dress for Mitch and Cam's wedding.
Is it really a retcon if they have at least four episodes featuring this joke? There was the After the Fire episode (with her receiving a box of out-of-date clothes that look just like the one she's wearing) Wine Weekend (where everone comments about her not dressing sexy enough), the aforementioned Other People's Children and this one.
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5 hours ago, SomeTameGazelle said:
Both of these things happened during the song. I don't think that we are supposed to think they actually happened in reality.
I'm pretty sure we're supposed to think it DID happen. The lyrics in Group Hang, Textmergency, and Seize the Day all had lyrics that inform the actions of the show, so I'm pretty sure we're supposed to use reasonable judgement in which song to take literally (like Friendtopia being too outlandish).
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I could have sworn that Nathaniel and Heather were leading to an almost-kiss, so I could not be more wrong given that the almost-kisses happened with virtually every other pairing.
QuoteRebecca wasn't wrong to lay into Darryl after he blabbed to the hostess that Rebecca had a "disorder." That's not your business to tell people, dude.
I didn't like it either. His inability to not be irritating for more than two minutes is the reasons why I wanted him and WhiJo to break up.
Also, Josh was wrong about how Paula. Her being procrastinating and being worried isn't a sign of her being a success or really caring, like how I went through a whole series of Eddings novels instead of studying for my exams.
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Kind of early to be clearing out extraneous cast. Heather, Valencia, Hector - gone. For an eighteen episode season, it's early days. I hope the table setting is done quickly, because this show needs a new organizing principle.
Having characters moving out doesn't mean they're gone. Bex doesn't work at Mountaintop anymore and we're still seeing her former work-mates. Also, the only cast member seemingly downgraded is David Hull, who'se now back to being credited as a guest star, so I don't think the writers have any real plans for WhiJo. Speaking of WhiJo..
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On 11/11/2018 at 11:38 AM, iMonrey said:
Didn't Rebecca have any friends at all when she lived in NYC? If she did, she abandoned them without so much as a goodbye. She's known Valencia and Heather a comparatively short amount of time. I know she's fragile but a couple of friends moving away shouldn't break her.
Pretty sure Rebecca had no real (non-Facebook) friends in NYC. Also, she breaks down every-time someone leaves her, like her dad, Josh, Greg, and Josh again at the wedding.
Also, I really need the show to stop having characters thanking Rebecca for messing with their lives. She's the inciting incident or cautionary tale, but hardly ever have been positive results been based on good intentions. It isn't a good thing that Paula only reconnected with her husband due to them bonding over Paula 's obsession with Bex's love life. It isn't a good thing that Paula only signed up for law school after seeing what a mistake it is being too invested in Bex. It isn't a good thing that Valencia is in a good relationship because Bex partially succeed in breaking her up with her longterm boyfriend. It isn't a good thing that Josh thanked her for "changing him" when really he was forced into it after trying to ruining his life.
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I think the failure of the Nathaniel character is partly down to him.
This is don't agree with at all. His singing voice started off very good and has since gotten a lot better (and was the standard of Disney prince in Nothing is Anyone's Fault, where he sounded better than Rachel). I think his comic-timing is very underrated. His always had good chemistry is Reahel (as opposed to Santino who'se had a ton while Vince had none). I don't think there's any need to be sorry for SMF or Nathaniel, since I don't really hear that many compaints about him despite him being featured in every episode since his introduction.
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20 hours ago, Eeksquire said:
If Rebecca is going to confront her past actions, why not start there instead of with a kid we've never seen before and probably will never see again? Hell, I'd take seeing Greg's dad over some random kid.
I see no problem with this. Rebecca having a half-brother is a pretty big deal and it seemed like a give taht the writers will come back to that.
On 11/4/2018 at 10:34 AM, DianeDobbler said:the woman has rent and her own therapy and hasn't worked in MONTHS. She just recently bought a pretzel business. She HAS no money.
I don't think that's true. She was broke BEFORE the time-jump, but her financial situation certainly changed in the eight months she was senior partner. Also, it only seemed like she hasen't worked in months due to the break between seasons, but she was only in jail for a few days.
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On 11/2/2018 at 10:47 AM, Blakeston said:
In at least two of those three interactions, their relationship was way unhealthy, and he found her obnoxious.
Only one, which was the episode Mother! Sarge and Pea was about the Pitchett kids blaming both parents for their upbringing.
QuoteThe "Mitch is such a momma's boy" stuff seemed like a classic case of the writers failing to show rather than tell.
Really, really can't agree with you there considering the entirety of Dede's first episode "The Incident" was about Mitch being a mama's boy.
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Mitch: Y-y-you see? Yeah, we're all gonna move past this. And because of me, who - who's not a mama's boy, But is a caring person with wisdom and emotional insight, So make a note, bitches!
Cam: That's not a good color on you.
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Also, Mitch was a painfully awkward gay dork who was raised by a tradionalist dad; of course he'd choose his hippie new-age mother, despite whatever faults she had.
On 11/2/2018 at 10:47 AM, Blakeston said:I would hope that Mitch would at least point out that his relationship with her wasn't perfect, either.
It never had to be.
On 11/2/2018 at 10:47 AM, Blakeston said:But I guess that's asking for too much maturity from these characters.
The episode was about everyone processing grief in different ways. Some people would think it mature point out faults and state objective truths, others think insulting the recently dead to be tacky.
Sorry to argure so hard on this, I just really don't agree.
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On 10/30/2018 at 5:53 AM, Blakeston said:
lt would be like if Jay died, and Claire made it sound like they always saw eye-to-eye, when in reality she spends half her time fuming at him or trying to deceive him.
That's completely standard family behaviour. They say your worst arguments are with the people you love the most, them them arguing all the time doesn't discount a loving relationship, espescially given that Jay has stated the Claire is his favourite and Claire jokes about being her dad's daughter and son.
QuoteBut they also repeatedly showed her driving him nuts.
I don't think this is actually true. Jesse Tyler and Shelly Long have not shared that many scenes during the entire series. They've only had three episodes of any meaningful interaction (The Incident, Sarge & Pea and Mother!).
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1 hour ago, taragel said:
Plus where is the startup cash for this coming from since I thought she was pretty broke and she's not really been working for awhile? I know her finances have never really made sense but
She was broke before the time-jump, but for eight-months she was co-boss at Plimpton, Plimpton and Plimpton. She would have gotten a substantial pay-bump, her affair with Nathmeant meant she wasn't wasting money on crazy schemes chasing boys, and Heather being a manager of several Home Bases meants Bex finally didn't have to pay all the rent. She was only in prison and out of work for a brief time.
22 hours ago, DianeDobbler said:As the show has gone on, I completely appreciate Vincent Rodriguez III as I think he syncs up with Bloom really well and is an excellent foil.
Their chemistry is a lot better now that they aren't selling them as a romantic couple. As for the reconciliation, I've been waiting a long for her to properly apologize for all the horrible things she's done to him, and even though Josh is too much of a puppy to hold onto negative emtions, he let her off a bit too easy.
As for the wedding, aren't there supposed to be witnesses?
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On 10/26/2018 at 4:07 AM, Blakeston said:
This episode felt a little bit revisionist to me, because didn't Dede drive Mitchell nuts, too? Their relationship wasn't as contentious as Dede and Claire's, but it still seemed pretty rough. You'd think from this that he was a total mama's boy.
Nope, not revisionist at all.
- Dede's first episode had them joking about how Claire called Jay "daddy" while Mitch called Dede "mommy".
- Mitch has always been considered a mama's boy, and Jay outright labeled him as such in the episode "Ten Years Later".
- They writers made a big deal of how Jay stopped calling him every week liked he used to after Mitch officially came out, hence MItch started talking more to his mom instead.
- The whole Crazy Train episode was about Mitch always taking her side.
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To a long-term watcher it didn't seem to come out of nowhere. There was her singing in a band, her regaling her family with a song in White Christmas, and Ariel proposing they do musical episodes.
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Honestly, I thought it was a bit of a parental fail for Phil to let Luke be the one to decide whether or not he'd take the job. Back in season 3, several people thought Cam and Mitch should get Lily's acceptence first before getting her a baby brother, and all I thought was "that's not how it works". And the same thing applies here, in that kids don't really get a say. If it makes Luke uncomfortable, then he's just have to deal with it like a grown up. I get that Phil always wants to be the cool dad, but his sense of positivity and inherent good nature clearly havesn't rubbed off on Luke.
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Or Mitch changing jobs seemingly every season, multiple times it seems he has been out of work, but never any money problems there
The season seven premier was devoted to Mitch and Cam struggling with money, with Lilly being forced to eat a ketchep sandwich.
QuoteI want to know how Claire and Phil never seem to worry about money, ever.
Phil was really worried about money after getting kicked out of his partnership, hence him really needing to sell that house that was turned out was full of bees. As for Phil and Claire's money situation, I get the impression that they are very, very comfortable now that both are working and she runs a company. She allowed him to run the magic store as a hobby knowing it'll likely lose money. Also, they had a coin toss to decide whther to either give the kids a safety net of buy a beach condo. In the begenning, they were probably upper-middle class, but now is propbably just upper.
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1 hour ago, WhosThatGirl said:
Ive always thought Andy and Haley were the best match but.. I always felt like I was alone in thinking that.
Alone? To me Andy and Haley is by far the most popular pairing (I personally never cared). Their "will-they-won't-they" storyline was the only time the show was able to bring out the hardcore shippers (which usually only happens with shows like Scandal and Supernatural).
45 minutes ago, ljenkins782 said:It's a blatant rip-off of the Brady Bunch with Jan's fake boyfriend "George Glass."
I consider the fake boyfriend/girlfreind storyline to be too common in comedies to be considered a rip-off, and consider it more of a trope. I remember Ugly Betty doing the girlfreind from Canada joke a few times.
1 hour ago, Eataton said:Am I the only one who thinks Dylan seems kinda gay?
I personally don't get that vibe, but Reid Ewing will probably ping on someone's gayday given that he's comfortable out in real life.
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On 8/7/2018 at 6:34 PM, nosleepforme said:
But if he wasn't available, then why bring the character back at all? I feel like his storyline concluded nicely and there is not much legs to the Greg/Rebecca romance anymore now that she has slept with his father.
My guess is because this story has nothing to do with the real Greg, and that Rachel simply wanted to write another facet of Bex's mania. Heck, I'm pretty sure there'll be an episode titled Greg is Irrelevant. The Leftovers did something similar where the lead thought his craziness was healed in season 2, but him running into a once dead character in season 3 (who turned out to be a stranger) showed he wasn't caured at all. Just a theory.
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Being fadio friendly was mentioned, and I think that would be a huge mistake because that would push artists towards watered down pop or chasing trends. Beyonce became a far, far better artist the moment she stopped trying to create radio hits and just did whatever the heck she wanted.
Also, Christina is clearly not an artist that needs a distinct sound. She's always been the the type of artist who does whatever genre, and the fans are okay with it as long as her voice still sounds good.
27 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:And it's always easy for artists and fans to say they don't care about being relevant or sales or whatever and it's all just about the music but something tells me Christina would happily enjoy having some hit songs and being able to actually tour successfully on her name alone, something I don't think is the case right now.
I've never had any doubts about her actually meaning what she says. Heck, given how rarely she releases music, I doubt she was ever as hungry for success like her peers.
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On 5/4/2018 at 2:33 AM, 27bored said:
how they would tell her how to dress and how to act. Christina, that’s called TV.
In broad terms, yes, but in the case of Christina so was told again and agian she was too fat and too bitchy on The Voice, thus between seasons had to lose a lot of weight and appear more pleasent. Even someone in their 30's will get a complex when having to change their whole look and personality.
32 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:I've said it before that I really think Christina is just lost musically. I don't think she truly understands who she is as an artist, what her audience wants from her, hell maybe even who is still her audience and what is current and now.
I don't think Christina is that conscious of those things, and consider that a good thing. It seems like she simply makes whatever music she wants (even if her albums end up a mish-mash of genres), when she wants to (which often leads to her music sounded outdated when finally released). Following the route of Pink and Kelly Clarkson would be a mistake (imo) because they boxed themselves into a commercially successful but less musically interesting pop-rock sound.
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they were present when decisions were being made, but their contributions were negligible and they suffered from a severe lack of character development.
Why should any of the tribe leaders get any character develoment in the first place? These are D-list characters in an ensemble film.
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It's no different to how Valencia is the only women acklowledged as "hot", yet it is Heather who betters fits to the ideal of model gorgeous. All of this is in service to the joke or their personalities. I don't think Rachel and co are actually ranking anyone by looks.
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I didn't love this episode, but me ranking it a 7/10 means I'll dissagree with most of the complaints, starting with...
On 2/19/2018 at 12:11 PM, DianeDobbler said:I got kind of worried about Valencia when her big song for the season was "This is my moment" and there was no comedic reason for the extended poop joke - usually a double meaning like that reverbs off something current with the character, but the poop joke had nothing to do with Valencia and didn't expand her nonexistent story. I remember also being irritated that CEG did nothing to disguise the fact that Valencia (Ruiz) obviously could not play the piano. They did so many shots of her very poorly faking it, and it's a show's job to cover up and finesse stuff like that. They didn't care enough, it was so obvious.
I can't consider it an insult when the poop song sits comfortable next to Darryl's sperm song and Paula's songs about penises and the vagina. And I always thought the fake piano playing was part of the joke.
QuoteAs for sleeping with Greg's father, I'm not sure why the show treats that as such a horribly low moment for Rebecca. It was pathetic, but she doesn't need anyone's forgiveness for doing it. and she's done much more lowly things in her time.
I think it was more about her unburdening all her wrong-doings, and writing that one on all three sheets to make up for Greg not being there.
QuoteBut the writers freaked out and dived for cover into complete irrelevancies like Daryl's baby - like anyone cares about that - they seem to have even forgotten that Daryl already has a child. Perhaps because that would just remind us how low the stakes are on this. He's already raised a kid who seemed to be fine (back when she existed) so now he has another one, who will probably also be ok. The end.
Have to disagree with this whole paragraph. I didn't care for this storyline either, but how were they diving into irrelevancies when it was his main plot this entire season AND was set up last season? People already having one child has never precluded them from wanting another. No big reason is needed for Darryl wanting another kid, he just does. My brother is working on having another for the exact same reason as Darryl in that he loves being a dad. They haven't forgotten Madison, and she's has appeared in the same amount of episodes as previous seasons: one.
QuoteNot only is Santino not exactly an ogre, but SMF isn't exactly the Adonis CEG insists he is either.
SMF isn't a 10 (imo), but can play one for comedic purposes. Someone like Santino would not have been asked to participate in Fit Hot Guys Have Problems Too. Yes, people love his voice, find him charming and good looking in a non-threatening kind of way, but I read so many comments back in the day about how he is not conventionally handsome enough to play the Prince in the Broadway production of Cinderella.
QuoteI believe SMT, so I think the show runners were hyping him for some agenda of their own.
I see no agenda. They simply really like SMF and I believe it because I think he's been surprisingly strong since his debut. He's also been a huge supporter in a way that Santino never was, in that's he's participated in every event to promote the show, so of course they'd love him.
QuoteI'm not sure why this episode is titled, "Nathaniel is Irrelevant." He's clearly not.
Nathaniel's presence was mostly a fake-out, and I saw that sweeping ballad was a giant "up yours" to any potential shipping.
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Reeeally disagree with this notion that Rebecca hasn't made progress. How could I not when I find the show a bit less interesting now that she's more stable and less "crazy" than the earlier season? Dr. Akopian doesn't need to tell us she's doing better, she really has come a long way since Dr. Akopian found her stuck in that doggie door. She's now actually engaging in therapy (something they've hammered home several times), she's gained actual self-awareness, she has a far better balance between her work and personal life (something she was never able to accomplish in New York or her first few years in LA), and now she can objectively say that she has all the friends. Re-watching early episodes and seeing her break down at even the slightest case of Chan-itis made me think how different the show is since then. Sure, Rebecca still makes questionable decisions, but she'll do that until the series end and there are no more dramatic story-lines to tell.
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2 hours ago, DianeDobbler said:
Maybe Naomi has her number.
I don't buy that at all given scenes like this one.
Naomi: You're selfish and dramatic and weird. You drove your father out of this house. You're terrible!
Who talks like that to a nine year old? Did Naomi have her number back then as well? Her dad might be responsible for her abandonment issues, but her mother is completely responsible for her complete lack of self-worth. Rebecca was right about never been of help, because the only time Naomi gave her any kind of love and support was literally from the fear of death.
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9 hours ago, LisaM said:
How did Mona find out that Nathaniel was having sex with Rebecca?
She only suspected it. She didn't know for sure until she did that thing where she tricked Nathaniel until confirming it himself. And the reality of workplace relations is that spending even a bit of additional time with a co-worker will lead to office gossip.
8 hours ago, applecrisp said:I was surprised that Trent gave up so easily and left. That in NOT like Rebecca.
Josh was never smart enough to figure her out or brave enough for that kind of confrontation, but I think she would have easily walked away and left forever if he told her that he doesn't love her and never will.
9 hours ago, lexiexx said:I found myself wondering if we are actually supposed to be rooting for Rebecca after this episode.
I don't think where supposed to. Rachel makes a big point about how she doesn't really care about writing a likable lead and that she makes sure that the suprting characters develop faster than the lead, which is spelled after the time-jump when wike most of the other characters, Rebecca mostly stayed the same.
8 hours ago, DianeDobbler said:Valencia is not just a cartoon these days, she's been re-written.
I thought it was more of the writers remembering that Valencia was always shallow. I always felt like a lot of her personality was sapped away in season 2 when she and Rebecca became friends.
S10.E09: The Tree of Strife
in Modern Family [V]
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Cam is far worse. I can come up with a long list of episodes that revolves around him being super insecure or being upset about not being the center of attention. Cam is the source of needless drama most all the time. The last two episodes had Cam blaming Mitch for something. Heck, Mitch can seemingly only get fun and enjoyable plots when he's around other family members (like Phil at the gay bar) instead of when he's with Cam.
They've stopped being a compatible couple since season 2, and I'm ready for Mitch to leave Cam. And this farm drama just has me shaking my head. Cam knows for a fact that Mitch hates farm life (side note: that last episode of Mitch liking the chicken and learning to like farm felt like a retcon, which clearly is now being treated as such) and I think Cam is a really crappy husband for wanting to upend everything and make everyone's life worse.