[S16.E02: Back in the Saddle]

On 10/17/2019 at 1:29 PM, RoxiP said:

That's how I remember it too.  Mark was very involved in Sofia's life and they lived across the hall from one another so they could both participate in her life.

We will have to agree to disagree then. Sure, the show treated Mark as the father sometimes, which was infuriating. He was not. The child was Callie and Arizona's. Callie and Mark were never going to raise the kid together. He would be like an uncle, not a father. Anyway, that's how I see it. The fact that he actually had sex with Callie and is friends with her is irrelevant. The couple is still Arizona and Callie, and the child is theirs.

[S16.E02: Back in the Saddle]

On 10/8/2019 at 4:59 PM, askasza said:

I Just realize that amelia and links pregnancy will be second pregnancy in all series where couple will be together during pregnancy. 

Mer and derek (only with bailey)were the only one till this time. 

Jackos and april - divorced

Owen and teddy - broken up

Callie and Mark - just friends

Mer and derek (with ellis) - dead

Is there any other baby? 

The couple in question is Callie and Arizona, not Callie and Mark. Mark is just the biological father. Callie and Arizona are the mothers.

So yeah, that couple was together during the pregnancy.

[S16.E01: Nothing Left to Cling To]

On 9/29/2019 at 12:22 AM, Pallas said:

A fantasy is all she could have. And most babies carried, borne and then surrendered by their mothers were not created by rape or incest. What Jo imagined about her mother's circumstances and motivations was the most likely scenario. What's ludicrous is that in the mid-1980's, a healthy, newborn Camilla Luddington-lookalike was not immediately adopted.

Thank you. I don't get why people think Jo should have imagined her mother was raped. Why?? Of course she thought her mother abandoned her because she couldn't take care of her. That's what anyone would think. At least in Brazil. Are you telling me mothers never abandon their babies in the U. S., unless they have been raped?

I can't imagine the trauma of finding out something like that. Let's see. You father is a rapist. You were coceived in an act of violence. Your mother was raped. And had you as a result. She is completely traumatized. Your mother can't stand looking at you. You wonder if you inherited something from your criminal father. You wonder if you deserve to be loved. You wonder if your whole existence is a huge mistake. Like I said, trauma.

But yeah, none of this was discussed in the episodes. Nada. And it will be soon forgotten.

Grey's writers forgot how to tell a good story. They have no clue.

[S01.E08: Episode 8]

The phone call from Marie to Wever killed me. When she says that she had lost all faith in humanity, but the two detectives restored it, and now she can see the world with hopeful eyes again, I cried like a baby. If you can do that to someone, you're a true hero.  Wever and Colette will forever be my favorite TV duo.

[S03.E13: Mayday]

On 8/14/2019 at 2:14 AM, AnswersWanted said:

Good dear god almighty, that first scene with June’s face flashing in between strobe light lit closeups was the worst yet. 

I felt like it was the start of a horror flick with a bunch of jump scares, yikes. 

That scene really served to remind me of what this show used to tell us Gilead was like. Terrifying, hateful, cruel, dark, unforgiving, unsurvivable. 

Then they flash to June walking side by side with a guard who doesn’t notice every other fucking handmaid thrusting their hands into her bag like it’s Santa's Christmas sack, especially Janine who giggles like her usual looney self while doing so.

Whatever, if the guards were even half as competent anymore this entire season wouldn’t exist. 

And of course Lydia has a hint something is afoot, but does nothing like take June back to the center to be reassigned because “finale!.”

So a Martha moved during the daytime and brought her kid early, yet that didn’t totally blow the whole plan because “finale!”.

And they traveled from a far distance, through the woods totally undetected? And yet no alarm had been sent up yet? Oh right, because “finale!”.

Oh look at June Wick, wielding her big bad gun like a pro. Who the fuck is this character anymore? 

They’ve ruined her, straight up removed everything and anything redeeming about her. Just so she can be some so called “badass”? What utter bullshit. 

Clearly they have no fucking clue who Lawrence is or what he’s all about. 

This idea that June, handmaid extraordinaire, could just take over his home and strip him of his power because Lizzie lowers her voice a little? GTFOOH. 

Also, are they seriously implying these mf-ers hadn’t even gotten a MAP to chart a safe path to the fucking airport until the evening of????

They had a week!

There was no plan!

Just pulling shit out of their asses at the last goddamn second and making sure it worked out because “finale!”.

Oh fuck you, show. 

Aw, Lawrence had story time with the 52 kids, who all obviously would not be able to WALK all the way to that airport in time unless they grew wings and battle armor to survive the oncoming onslaught of guards headed straight for them.

But sure, because “finale!”. 

Also also, somehow 52 kids are all missing come nightfall, plus a handful of Marthas and handmaids, and Gilead would not immediately have their airport swarming with guards because that shit should be suspicious as HELL.

But gosh golly, of course not because “finale!”. 

Too bad all those brave women didn’t know June really didn’t need their help because she can’t die, ever, so she truly could have faced off with those guards all alone and been just peachy. 

I guess none of them brought a pen...

Hey, she can avoid any and all bullets that would surely kill her, huzzah, another superpower activated! Praise be! 

And of course she got the best of an ARMED GUARD, got him to call off any further search of the area, AND then killed him because fine, sure, yep, why not...

...she got carted out of the woods with the help of the other handmaids with nary a guard or patrol in sight despite the very deceased guard laying just mere feet away who you’d think they’d be trying to contact or find or something...

So Gilead just stopped caring about everything, great, because so have I. 

I’m done. Officially done. 

This entire finale was a pile of fuck you footage to all semblance of logic. 

A “happy ending” submerged in total bullshit and fuckery to get us there. My brain deserves better. 

Thank you. My thoughts exactly. 

 Why oh why isn't June dead? That's all I wanted from this finale. Couldn't we at least have had that???

Who am I kidding? Of course Super June can't die. I'm killing this show instead. Bye, THS! 

[S03.E12: Sacrifice]

On 8/7/2019 at 2:02 AM, AnswersWanted said:

So everyone made sure to tell June just how AMAZING and BOSS she is within the first 10 minutes so we didn’t miss quota. 

Rita got to fondle some potatoes and June’s finger, it’s such a good thing they aren’t wasting the actress or character on frivolous things...

Secret government agent man can go die in a fire for how he treated Moira.

I already wasn’t impressed with him, but again the show has to make a character act like a total shitty asshole for unnecessary drama, and of course it’s over Serena. 

She should have been allowed to claw her goddamn eyes out and then take Holly back home. 

At least someone was finally allowed to call Serena out a little bit for once and didn’t act like she’s some helpless little lady who was manipulated and taken advantage of. 

Seriously, they actually held up a deal with that wench to get access to Holly? And she got time alone without Moira or Luke there?

She got to hold her rape slave’s baby...?!

Fucking disgusting. 

Do you know what’s also confusing for a helpless baby, Ms. Social Worker, letting said baby be held by their mother’s rapist. 

Who the fuck would even sign off on that shit? Serena should have ZERO sway about anything, she’s a captive war criminal, not their honored guest. 

Lawrence seriously let June manhandle his wife and didn’t even intervene once? The fuck? So just how whipped does June have everybody now? 

And she let her die, just straight up let the woman die? I...okay, no.

Just. No. 

I can’t comment on June anymore, it’s all expletives now in regards to her. 

Eleanor was one of the very few left in Gilead I even cared about, ffs.

Whatever, show, at least it wasn’t Janine, at least not yet...

Exactly what 4 Seasons Hotel is Canada holding Fred and Serena in? I mean there are some Ritz Carlton’s with less amenities. 

Thanks for making June a murderer, show. She murdered Eleanor. I hate her so much now. She's not even a person anymore. Just a heartless thing that walks and bosses people around.

Sorry I'm late with my comment. Watching the finale now.

[S03.E11: Liars]

Ok maybe this is really a mute point, because this show has gone to hell and there's no point in trying to make sense of anything. Still I try.

Marthas are servants, ok. But they are also part of the new Gilead order. A household must have a Commander, a wife, a handmaid and a Martha. And maybe kids, if the Lord decides to open. Marthas are an integral part of the whole system and even participate in some of the rituals. Now Jezebel is not part of that order. It's not a household. It's sort of illegal, even if it's accepted by the powers that be. Marthas do not belong there. Nor for me anyway. Were they there in Season one? I don't remember. My point: the only reasons there are Marthas in Jezebel's is to help Superjune stay invulnerable.

Someone upthread suggested that next season should be all about the Marthas. That would be nice. Who knows, I might even watch it...

[S03.E11: Liars]

On 7/31/2019 at 1:01 PM, jenn31 said:

The writers figured they’d have a winner with this pathetic episode (I see you giving yourselves pats on the backs) by throwing in the arrest. Get the viewers to cheer that Fred is going to finally get his, because we really don’t care about proper plot development. The whole thing was so poorly executed with so many plot holes. The entire episode was bad with so many boring parts to boot. My finger was hovering over the FF button on the remote. The timeline seemed all wrong too. Just how long have those muffins been sitting there? I was inspecting them for mold. I can’t wait up see the wives having at them. 

Right off the bat we’re supposed to cheer June on for stopping Eleanor from shooting Joseph (pat, pat, pat). I guffawed. I was praying hard that in a scuffle Eleanor would put a bullet in June. Of course June’s invisible body armor is as thick as her plot armor, no doubt, so I quickly canned that dream. 

As people have mentioned, the Marthas are so underused. That whole network and the Marthas’ backstories (nooooooo!) could be so interesting. Yet the only reason they are in the show is to pop up to aid June whenever she needs help (always!) in her rattlebrained schemes. What a waste of everyone on the show. 

Which brings me to my question. Why are there Marthas on Jezebel's??? Makes absolutely no sense to me. This show, I swear...

Seeing Commander Lawrence taking orders from June actually made me cry. What the hell, writers? No words.

[S03.E09: Heroic]

On 7/17/2019 at 9:56 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said:

Within the first five minutes of the episode, I was cracking up because I was already imagining how much you guys were going to hate an episode that was 90% June voiceovers and June closeups.

I liked the moment when the doctor said he knew June's mom and that she was scary.

I watched this in my computer with my hand over her face the whole time. 

[S02.E07: I Want To Know]

Oh God they are talking Season 3. I was so afraid of that after realizing the Monterrey 5 were going to confess. I knew that's what they were going for...

[S15.E19: Silent All These Years]

I understand Jo's anger. She was abandoned. That's reason enough to be angry IMO. Can you ever get over that kind of pain? Not sure.

I loved the line of women. The way I see it, Abby was feeling terrified. At that moment, she needed to feel protected from men, all men. Seeing all those women there made her feel safe. Like they were human shields, protecting and cherishing her. Even I felt safe.

[S03.E17: R&B]

1 hour ago, deirdra said:

It's ~60% Randall & Beth and 40% Randall & Pearsons from age 10 to the present.

Thanks. Not watching then. Randall is my least favorite character right now.

I'm one step away of ditching this show for good.

[S03.E17: R&B]

Can anyone tell me if this episode is all Randall and Beth all the time? Because if it is, I will gladly skip it. Tks.

[S03.E15: The Waiting Room]

Worst episode ever. Die Randall die.

My heart broke for Rebeca though. Pretty sure they're gonna give her Alzheimer's.

I'm so over this show.

[S02.E18: Trampoline]

I was ready to give up on this show completely, but then the last scene happened. That was magical. Only good thing in the whole season, but still worth it. I might watch next season, after all. Just for a little glimpse of that magic.

Because oh, God, this show is so bad it hurts. I cringe all the time at how bad the writing is and how ridiculous the plots are. Lim and Melendez kissing in front of everyone? Claire channeling Shaun? Andrews firing Han because of Shaun, and not because he's unethical manipulative blackmailer? No one mentioning a lawyer for Shaun? Glassmann proposing  on a whim and the girl saying yes? Please, Brazilian soap operas are better than this.

Also, Park is dead to me. I hate that the show wants us to sympathize with him, because he was so wrong. Doesn't matter if the sweet old lady was faking it, that's not the way to treat an elder person. You never ever justify anything by saying they're JUST OLD.

For the record, last time someone told my 95-year-old mother she was just old, she almost died from an intestinal obstruction. 

Thank God I took her to a real doctor and she got surgery. She's fine now, but not because of doctors like Park. He can go to hell.

[S03.E13: Our Little Island Girl]

I've never been a Beth fan,  so I fast-forwarded through the whole thing. Liked the last scene with her mother though.

What I got from this episode:

- all daughters hate their mothers and secretly want to marry their fathers;

- it's ok to be irresponsible (aka Randall) and ignore your family as long as you're  following  your dreams;

- if you were ever a musician or a dancer, and even if you haven't practiced for years, it's ok to go to a school and announce: "I want to be a teacher here". You'll get the job immediately.

*sighs*

[S15.E15: We Didn't Start the Fire]

18 hours ago, RedbirdNelly said:

that part was the best thing about the episode. Alex's relief "a real fire!!" was funny. Not the normal fire episode thing to happen.

I cried when I saw the smile in Alex face. That's how I feel when my mother says something that actually makes sense. In that moment, she's back.

Alzheimer's suck.

[S02.E13: Xin]

NVM

[S15.E13: I Walk the Line]

If Owen decides to fight for custody, Amelia will leave long before it goes to court. No family unit or drug addict.

This whole arc sucks.

[S03.E12: Songbird Road, Part Two]

That's so incredibly selfish. If Nick was dead to him, he could just refuse to see him.Telling the whole world he's dead is extremely cruel.  All of this so he wouldn't have to explain the situation to his kids? And his wife? How weak was Jack, really? That's character assassination, if you ask me.

[S03.E12: Songbird Road, Part Two]

Two things that bothered me in this episode:

- the fact that Jack told everyone Nick was dead makes no sense at all, and yet no one talks about that in the whole episode. No ones asks: why did he do this? Are we to assume that Jack wanted his brother to be dead (like Nick said), and that's why he lied? Because that's absolutely awful.

- what Jack did to Nick was horrible and, in my opinion, unforgivable: he erased his brother out of existence. So, if I ever met Nick, the first thing I was going to say is "I'm sorry for what Jack did to you. That was wrong. You shouldn't have gone through this. No one should." And yes, Rebecca should have told him he is a person. Hugging him would also be an accetable reaction. What's wrong with those people?

Glad Kevin is getting a decent arc. If it involves he and Nick doing some healing together, I'm all for it.

[S15.E13: I Walk the Line]

So do you guys think the writers want to turn DeLucca into Derek 2.0, someone powerful and controling? The thought crossed my mind. But I don't remember Derek being that creepy. Or was he?

[S15.E13: I Walk the Line]

Everyone was at their worst in this episode.

Alex can't understand someone with a Scottish accent? Really? I'm Brazilian and I understand.

Jackson doesn't know if guys playing pipes is a good or bad thing. It's music, dumbass! Beautiful music. Listen and learn.

DeLucca is a stalker who stalks. So creepy!

Meredith enables her stalker and pretends her sis is a sane person.

Maggie has to treat someone she hates. I mean, really, show? How is that even a thing? She's your patient. Shut up and act like a professional! By the way, how can you "hate" an ex-classmate? Are you 15??? But hey, maybe she can go play with Bailey, who's 12!

Owen can't deal with his pain, so he lashes out at Amelia. And some poor parents in distress.

Amelia is the only decent and sensible character in this whole episode, and I never thought I would say something like that.

[S02.E14: Faces]

On 05/02/2019 at 1:29 PM, Evagirl said:

IMO, this show is turning into a regular night time medical show.  What made this show stand out for me was "the good doctor" - Dr. Shaun Murphy/Freddie Highmore.  Now if "the good doctor" is really about the other physicians on staff as well, they should have called it "The Good Doctors".  All the side drama makes it just like any other medical show. 

Exactly. And not even a good medical show. Too many absurd plots and resolutions, too much drama between doctors and patients, too little character development. I'm hoping against hope they will go back to the original premise. Otherwise, I'll just go back to old ER/Grey's episodes. Much better than anything going on here.

Just a side note: what the hell are they doing with the Melendez-Lim relarionship? I mean, is there a relationship? All we see is them talking about their romance, but not really living it. Where is the love? Where is the passion? Why are those people together? We had one assexual scene in the bed, some quarentine-induced suffering, one kiss, and some quick conversations about how they shouldn't be dating. Well, maybe they shouldn't, since they don't  seem to care one bit about each other. I've seen robots emote more.

Seriously.

[S02.E13: The Whirlwind]

They turned Madani into a cartoon-like villain, complete with the crazy eyes and the dumb obsession for vengeance. SMH.

And yes, it seems like Marvel tends to screw things up in the second season. It's like they are so in love with their success, they feel like their work is done. They just need to rinse and repeat. Then they put together two or three half-assed storylines, create a new villain and/or sidekick, and yay, here's the new season! It was the same with Jessica Jones. We had Trish going bad, Jessica's mother as a monster and Carrie-Anne Moss in a completely separated story. It didn't work.

Here we had blackmail, a new sidekick, the return of a villain and Josh Stewart in an (almost) completely separated story. And again it didn'twork. There was no sense of purpose, no urgency, no engaging relationships. Plus some bad casting decisions and lame dialogue. We deserved better.