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Thing is we base Castle's value in viewing figures but we don't actually see the total profit for the show. It's made 'in house', it's been sold all over the world (2 separate channels have rights to the show in the UK), there is merchandise & syndication deals. I completely agree that $1 million is over reaching & I don't think either of them are stupid enough to believe it. I don't think it's any coincidence they both moved to bigger agencies before this. I do hope they are standing together on this though as the article has said. It's harder for negative press for both to 'leak out' & if they don't sign them both, the show dies.

I think Castle was doing just fine finicially given he had managed to buy the loft, the Hamptons estate etc. I think he would have continued to write but still existed in the flashy playboy lifestyle. If he isn't back in that world it's more than not meeting Beckett which has changed his life. Pre Castle Beckett wasn't completely career orientated either. She had been & continued to date in the early seasons so was looking to have more than just a career in her life. Meh, I'm really starting to dislike an episode I haven't even seen. :(

I think I'm going to dislike this intensely if it isn't all in Castle's mind. No way Beckett would be Captain at 36. Not that I don't think she could have been qualified, but the politics of her leapfrogging older more experienced cops who were waiting for a Captain's chair doesn't wash. As for Castle he was already a successful (and much more high profile celebrity) before they met so I will be one unhappy bunny if they suggest that he wouldn't have been successful without Beckett.

Isn't that just standard business? You don't ask for what you want/think you'll actually get, you ask for much, much more. Then you negotiate back to the figure you'll actually accept.

Unbelievable as it is it's the premise for the show. But you don't get DNA after lunch etc so for every procedural you need to suspend your disbelief. Kept seeing an SVU trailer where the judge asks Benson to foster a baby. Never. Going . To. Happen in real life. But lay aside the disbelief as the point was the move didn't mean Castle dropping a few quid on a DC pad. It was a major life upheaval for him & since Beckett is supposed to love him, she should have at least considered that & him at some point in her decision. It was clear in those episodes that he was unhappy but all the running was on his part. Had I been Castle's friend I would have hoped that he would wise up & ditch her.In the end Castle proved he was the one who could sustain an adult relationship. He forgave the flirtation, he tried to show more appreciation of Beckett & made sacrifices to allow Beckett to pursue her career. Beckett however, hiding the job & lying showed she was the one who was struggling with a serious relationship. Oh yeah Cabot Cove (and more recently Midsomer). Best move somewhere safer.....like New York.

The faith that he had good reason came at the end of Montreal after she had seen a video where he was desperate & scared. Where he was emphatic he did not choose to walk away. I'm talking Driven where she seemed quite willing to believe he chose to live in a tent for no apparent reason which is an entirely different thing.....especially as he somehow managed to come into contact with a tropical disease & neatly died in a bullet riddled dinghy. Not one single bit of sense in that entire scenario. That should have alarms bells ringing & doubt. Dude wakes up after that experience & not as much as a 'how do you feel?' before launching into interrogation.

The idea that Castle wouldn't be disrupted by the move undermines the whole premise of the show. He was rich, successful, bored & blocked as a writer at the start & working with the NYPD became more than a bit of a diversion. Even when he was angry at Beckett on various occasions he still returned & it wasn't something he could have in DC therefore he was almost sacrificing his career, even if it was unpaid. Perhaps the stagnating idea might have flown in any way at all if it hadn't been packaged with the 'we're just getting started' of Still. As for the video game I like to think the Beckett of early seasons would have called Lanie & thrown a 'don't wait up' as she headed out the door for drinks. Standing beside a bomb should have earned him plenty of brownies points but 5mins later; forgotten.

I wasn't a fan of Castle's behaviour but at least it was a reaction to feeling hurt knowing Beckett had lied. Compare that to his reaction to her lying about Washington. He walked away, figured it out & still proposed. Character growth. Beckett can't even trust that Castle would not willingly walk away from their wedding without good reason & it's all about how she has suffered. No growth.

I can see the point about writers creating conflict & bad behaviour not being necessarily bad writing but it's the lack of follow through that makes it unpalatable. Bad writing is the notion that the behaviour was somehow justified or correct. Saying 'I'm sorry' at the swings is not enough if it's followed by 'before I accept your proposal know I'm taking a job that disrupts the life you are happy with & will make you unhappy, but I don't care as long as I get what I want.'. Bad writing is trying to feed us a character is 'extraordinary' by lining up multiple characters to (sometimes literally) go to great lengths to point it out. Bad writing is having this supposed strong independent woman revert to a teenage girl running to her friends & flirting with other men because her boyfriend gets involved with a computer game. I've seen Castle grow as a character, take responsibility & at the same time the nuanced character of Beckett diminished to 'badass' and sometimes unlikeable in clumsy attempts to generate suspense & cliffhangers.

Agree with you completely Verdana. Forget their relationship and everything else, when Beckett left the NYPD Castle had to essentially stop working there too. She completely upended his life & surely she didn't miss that he wasn't happy. She lied to him, gave him an ultimatum, made him unhappy for a job she didn't really enjoy & not once did she show any real gratitude. The PR spin from SK about a 'strong, independent woman' annoyed me no end (I'm not sure SK really believed it either). The writers obviously don't know what a strong independent woman is & went with selfish & self absorbed instead. I'm not interested in dysfunctional 'badass' Beckett- there are other shows which do that & do it better. Am I wrong in drawing parallels with Benson (SVU) here -where we are supposed to constantly admire her toughness & her 'issues' are so front & centre, it's almost how she introduces herself.......and the male lead left the show. Whilst I don't see NF throwing hissy fits I could see him making it clear he was interested in any more seasons playing doormat & I wouldn't blame him. Hopefully we'll get a little more than the 'not extra'ordinary Beckett.

I think a surprise wedding could be ok but with the past form of the writers it would be on this show a fail of epic proportions. So I'll add my no to a 'surprise wedding' & I'm already cringing at the thought of what they might have produced. I also sincerely hope they ignore Katic's suggestion to pick over the DC arc, although I think the fact that they dropped it so quickly was due to the realisation that it was a huge mistake & about to drive the show into the ground. I found it completely ridiculous that Beckett's decision was touted as her being a 'strong, independent' woman when back in S1 we were supposed to see Sorensen as a the bad guy for being the Fed stepping into cases & choosing career progression over his girlfriend.

I think the DC arc was profoundly more damaging than the 'previous marriage'. Youthful mistakes are one thing but ditching Castle to become a Fed not only undermined their whole relationship but also her character. Early Beckett was disdainful of the Feds & wanted to speak for the victims, suddenly she wants the hotshot job. Her acceptance of the proposal based on the fact she was taking the job successfully undermined that & I've never warmed back up to Beckett since. Which is a shame as Beckett version s1-3 was my favourite character. They could have saved it with Beckett quitting & a mea culpa to Castle but alas no. The idiotic doubting of Castle in the first 2eps this season nearly made me quit the show for good.

Looking at the three shows- the Blacklist did a 2.4. I think the lowest it has been. Overall viewers put Castle in second place & the numbers were well down. Doesn't being replaced by football doubly hit the figures though? I would be part of the coveted demo. If I couldn't watch Castle live I'd be grumpy but then I'd turn over and watch the Blacklist instead. Having said that though I think this is the fairly poor start coming home to roost. Can't understand why AWM is torpedoing his own show.

I get the idea that the truck would be weighing on the child's mind but giving it to Castle was a bit of a stretch. It would have been better for the teacher to have got them to draw him a going away present & the truck was part of the pile.

Am I right in saying that Castle was replaced by football in some parts of the U.S.? Therefore aren't the rating going to have to be down a bit?