La di Diva

I'm beyond angry that no one -- No One -- has told Hope about Liam. Liam hasn't asked why Hope hasn't been to see him. He hasn't asked about Beth. I willing to cut him a teeny tiny bit of slack -- brain bleed/brain injury/etc. and all that. But he doesn't have amnesia. Unless we are to believe that Stuffy has lied to him off camera that Hope doesn't care/ doesn't want to see him there is no reason for this Stuffy-centric story line. No reason for him not to want to see Hope and Beth. Stuffy is his ex. His EX-wife. She's not his next of kin. That's Bill. She has absolutely no legal right to make decisions regarding his care, who he sees, who knows about his condition. what he does, when he does it, where he goes. She has no right to be the one to tell him about his "inoperable" condition. I want Hope to find out that Stuffy has kept her and Beth away from Liam. I want Hope to punch Stuffy into next week. Extra points if Hope tells Deacon; Deacon mentions it to Sheila; Sheila decides to tech Stuffy a reason. Extra extra points if Luna is involve in Sheila's lesson giving.

I think it boils down to the fact Brooke doesn't care that Ridge called Hope a whore and a bitch. Stephanie for years called Brooke the Slut From the Valley. Brooke hated it and it hurt her, but she put up with it. I don't remember RMRidge ever telling his "Muuuuuther" to stop the name calling. So Brooke is taking her cue from Ridge's past behavior. She thinks Hope should just get over the name calling. I also have the suspicion that Brooke, while not believing Hope is an actual whore, thinks her daughter has a sluttish past, and kinda sorta deserves the name calling. Yes I know pot - kettle, and it's so not true and Hope's list of lovers is far shorter than Stuffy's or Taylor's or Brooke's. But ......... Hope is the result of Brooke's affair with Deacon. She's thought of as a stain on the family. Hope put herself out there with the whole HFTF idea, She was with Thomas while refusing to marry him, etc. I think Brooke is projecting on to Hope her guilt over Deacon and Oliver; her guilt over Hope's birth; her internal guilt over Bill while he was married to Katie; her internalization of Stephanie's name calling. Basically her whole past. Not slut shaming anyone but ....Hope has far less of a sexual past than La Principessa Stuffy. However La Principessa is a "Forrester" and can do no wrong. Every. Single. One. of her actions or decisions or utterances or commands, or tantrums is the most bestest and most rightest and most greatest thing ever done in the entire history of the universe. While Hope is just a low down, low class Logan. A whore and a bitch.

I want Deacon to learn all about Ridge's name calling and Brooke's treatment of his daughter. His Daughter. The one completely good thing (despite her conception) he's done in his life. Deacon is a grey character on the knife edge of decent, but I have always believed he loves Hope. I hope when Deacon finds out what HoboSlob said he literally tears into Ridge. Deacon is a lot of things, but he's Hope's father. No one calls his daughter a whore and a bitch and gets away with it. No one.

My money is on Finn However Jack is going to claim paternity with Poppy's help because he doesn't want to 1) Ruin the "Stuffy and her Husband" Marriage" and 2) Keep Finn from freaking out that Shelia's bad genes passed to Luna and that's why she murdered 2 people and played Bitch in a Box with Stuffy. So really the whole thing would be Finn's fault and he would blame himself. Of course Stuffy would agree. Stuffy would then freak that Finn passed Shelia's murderous genes to Hayes just as he did to Luna, making Stuffy the victim in all this, causing her to leave Finn. Somewhere in this mess an evil Logan, probably Hope because Deacon (her dad) is married to Shelia, would also be at fault.

Will looked like a tyke on a tricycle. It's hard to believe he's the son of badass Dollar Bill.

The Hobosexual is not Bold and definitely NOT Beautiful. Now Ronn Moss was both. And charming. And romantic. And funny. He couldn't act but we didn't care. He had other ... ahem ... attributes. The Hobosexual can't act either but he can't hold a candle to RM's other... ahem.... attributes. In fact the Hobosexual doesn't have any attributes. Except being an asshat. Will on a motorcycle will never ever never ever ever be as sexy and romantic and heroic and badass as Bo Brady rescuing Hope from her aborted wedding to Larry Something while "I Need a Hero" played as background music.

Actually in my corporate world experience, HR does fire people. Upper leadership or the person's boss consults with HR and they all agree that Employee X is fired/ laid off/ let go/ position is eliminated and HR prepares the paperwork. HR usually meets with employee to give the bad news and get the paperwork signed. The boss very rarely does the meeting because they don't want to be confronted by the angry/ upset/ furious/ etc. employee. While meeting with employee, HR person gets IT to disable the employee's network access and remove the computer. HR then oversees the employee packing their desk, Gets the employee's keys/ access card/ parking pass/ corp phone etc etc. and then walks the employee out. Unless it's a really ugly firing then the security does. I've seen it happen many many many times in public and private companies. I experienced it once when there was a mass layoff.

Ridge's disdain for Hope was made clear the first time he called her "that one". It has only gotten worse, culminating with his "nasty little bitch" tirade. I think much more/ much worse is to come. I believe he'll use the NLB label and nastier when raging about Hope to Brooke. I can see him going as far a blaming Brooke for Hope's character "flaws", echoing Stuffy that Hope has turned out just like her mother. Brooke has always been my girl, but if she doesn't brain Ridge with a poker for all the nasty Hope tirades, I may have to rethink my Brooke relationship. I'd love it if Brooke called Deacon to help take out the TrashRidge after she whacked him with the poker. She could catch Deacon up on how Ridge has treated Hope. Deacon loves his daughter; he'll never let Ridge get away with what he said. TrashRidge deserves whatever Deacon unleashes on him (I will always be ride or die for Breacon)

I don't think we'll have a Hope/Finn (Honn) hook up. I think she'll come on to him and he'll be really really tempted, Then grasp her head or pass out or something dramatic and Finn, while not a neurologist (that we know of), will know something is very wrong with Hope. Thus all the talk about Hope isn't herself, acting out of character, feeling unmoored will make sense. I don't think it will be DID like every other soap, nor a brain tumor. What I don't know. Maybe that will be the SL. Li and Fin working together with some new hot neuro to figure out what's wrong with her. This will involve so many people. Stuffy will be furious Finn is working on Hope's case and forbid him. Waffle Liam will be really concerned and look hard at his past treatment of Hope. Perfect reason to bring back Wyatt. Thomas won't scoot off to Paris because he's still obsessed with Hope. Douglas realizes and admits how much he loves Mom Hope, even though he likes Paris, and that his dad is manipulating him ..... again. Brooke and Deacon will bond and worry together about their daughter -- royally ticking off Sheila and Ridge. Donna/ Eric and Katie will be emotionally supporting Brooke. Bill asked by Liam and Wyatt will fly in specialists. This allows Bill and Li to become friends again and she's there for him when the inevitable explosion of Boppy happens (I still ship BiLi).

The best part of any show is anyone* with Deacon. Or Deacon reading the phone book out loud. Deacon's hand gesture about Honn sex is so Deacon and so SK. Who is a much better actor than he has ever been given credit for. * Anyone except Sheila, because I cannot stand the pairing,

Is it possible Poppy will lie to Luna-tic that she's preggers, and push a quickie RJ marriage? Then cross her fingers Luna gets actually pregnant really really quickly afterward or else oops, must be a "miscarriage" when Luna has her period Luna-tic would then be a Forrester and in the money and social position. Poppy could push to get her own clothing line.

I completely agree about SK's acting chops. He's the best actor on the show, was the best on Y&R, was the best on GH. I've been a fan since his AJ Quartermain days. Deacon deserves so much better than Sheila. Maybe put him back with Brooke. She needs to lose all those pounds of useless Sludge. Better yet when Deacon realizes Sheila is out for revenge on everyone, team him with Li to bring Sheila down and have them slowly carefully fall in love. Amber's possible return -- I have to admit I've always had a soft spot for her, here and on Y&R. Having her and Deacon's son (whatever name he goes by now) come back to Bell A could really work, D-son has his father and half sister Hope in town. And if D-son is now a chef there's another tie. Plus I think Amber's return, especially if she's with Thomas, will drive Ridge crazy. Better still if Amber and Thomas are married. Finn defending Sheila is absolutely nuts, but i love that it's driving Stuffy's OTT anger. Finn is going to realize what a raging entitled spoiled princess beyotch he's married to and leave Stuffy's entitled spoiled princess beyotch ass in an LA minute. You love to see it.

He tried to kidnap/ force her into marriage once. Hope has to remember. that. He gaslighted and threatened Douglas to make a marriage happen. Hope has to remember that. He was going to drug her to make the marriage happen (she doesn't know that). He was obsessed and angry -- just like he is now. Hope knows that. I think the odds are very very good Lurch is going to kidnap/ try to force her into marriage -- all disguised as whisking her off to a fantasy surprise wedding. Question is who will figure it out and rescue her this time -- Liam or Finn?

Wait. Wait. I'd forgotten this. That means Sludge has a half sister via Massimo and Sheila, who was once his step-mother. And because Sheila was his step mom, Finn is his step brother as well as his son-in-law. Oh damn this is just all too incestuous for me.

My votes for smoking hot will always be #1 Brooke and Deacon, and #2 Brooke and Thorne. Breacon were incendiary and absolutely on fire. They burned through the screen. I'd follow these 2 couples with Quinn and Carter. Brooke and Ronn Moss Ridge were pretty together, but I didn't find them smoking hot Brooke and Sludge are a drowned pile of dead wet ashes.

@KerleyQ -- I agree up to the 'somehow ended up passing out in bed' part. Luna didn't just lie down because she was feeling unwell and pass out. She took off all her clothes, climbed into bed naked, and passed out/ fell asleep. How would she explain that to RJ? How would she explain the getting naked part? Who goes to get water and strips off their clothes? Last but not least -- the mansion has a kitchen -- why go to the guest house for water?

This x 1 Million I cannot see Hope ever being with Lurch. except in business Even if she acknowledges his edge, his grayness, he kept her child a secret because he wanted to have her/ bone her/ own her. He was planning to drug her to make it happen. He chased Emma off the road to stop her telling Hope the truth. We all saw his satisfied smile when he saw her wrecked car. He bullied and terrified his son to keep the truth hidden. Except for Douglas' brave truth telling, Hope would still believe Beth was dead. Which. Is. Exactly. What. Lurch. Wanted.

Seeing the beginning of chemistry when Bill rescued Li, I was so hoping Show was going somewhere with Bill and Li before hippie dippie free spirit/ possible gold digger Poppy appeared. Maybe Li had hopes for her and Bill too. and she's furious at Poppy because she's swiped someone from Li too many times before.

I realize time is fluid and flexible in SoapLand/ Bell A, But..... I just cannot see $Bill hanging out at a hippie-dippie music festival 20-21 years ago. He would have been 35-40. Not his scene at all, not at that age.. Now if he'd met Poppy in a club where she was a singer, that I'd believe. I think it would be fantastic if Luna was Eric's or Ridge's, who Poppy had a hot week-long fling with. Then it would make sense for Li to be so furious that Luna is at FC and Poppy is hanging around all the time.

They make me cringe just standing there, together or separately I know "young love, first love" sometimes moves fast (way too fast) but the speed of their twu wuv 4 evah is ridiculous.

This would be a real world answer ..... and be an interesting scene on Show. Except ......... Golden Child RJ )TM) is the son of Golden Boy Ridge (TM) and Zende is not the son of one of the Forrester golden offspring. Ridge was always the most favored Forrester child. Doesn't matter that he's really a Marrone. He was/ is in the CEO office and Thorne was always in the basement. Golden Child RJ is the future of FC. Son of the Golden Boy and the Golden Cooter. Therefore he outranks Zende by miles and miles of expensive fabric. You'd think that Thomas would be mighty upset that suddenly RJ is FC's future and he, Thomas, with years of design experience is relegated to the on-hiatus-probably-forever HFTF. Maybe Thomas and Zende can team up to take RJ down a peg or 3 (or 4). Not that I like Thomas At. All. but at least he would have something to occupy his mind besides his Hope obsession.

Popping in to mention how much I'm looking forward to Winsor Harmon's return. I hate it's the (shhh don't tell) Eric is Dying SL, but I always loved WH's Thorne and glad he's back. Plus WH was always my fave eye candy on the show Hey Show, what if you bring Throne back to work with Ridge and Steffy? Eric could ask Throne at the gala party to return to FC. Seriously the Ridge/ Thorne clashes could spice up the tired FC SLs. But please, give Thorne an office -- no more basement.

Without giving away the results of the fashion showdown -- Might I say Ridge has been an absolutely smug, self-satisfied, pompous asshat throughout the entire thing, and he continues being an absolutely smug, self-satisfied, pompous asshat now that the fashion showdown is over.

Esther has had money for at least 10 years, but I doubt she thinks of herself as wealthy or spends any of it. To her that's Mrs.C's money and she just keeping it safe for the next generation of Chancellors. It would never occur to Esther to buy herself an FC original, even though it wouldn't make the tiniest dent in Mrs C's fortune. I think that's why Lauren brought her to the fashion show, to encourage Esther to do something for herself. Might I say that Countess von Botox Filler-fort is being nastier and cattier than Lauren ever was in her heyday.

I'm holding out for a big reveal that Deacon, Bill, and the Judge are in on a plot to lock Sheila away for good. I'm thinking the SL is the Judge was forced to rule according to Bell-A Law that Sheila was free to go because Sinn didn't testify. But the 3 of them were totes furious about that and have come up with a plan to get Sheila locked up. Sheila will do something, try to kill someone, be caught, and then locked away. I'd love it if Bill has involved Li in this -- perhaps as the intended "victim" because she keeps pushing Finn to ditch SheMom for good. We could see Sheila kills Li and think she's gotten away with it. The reveal could happen at the wedding when "Ghost LI" appears and Sheila freaks out with 'you're dead, I killed you'. Extra points if the Judge is performing the wedding and Ghost Li appears at the does anyone object moment. Extra extra points if this is when Steffy returns from Europe (urged by Li). Even more extra extra points if Deacon tells Sheila how much she disgusts him, that she always has, and he's been pretending the entire time to get her out of everyone's lives. We can dream, can't we.