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  1. Another American here, black, from the South, very religious upbringing but grew up on hip hop. Casual, entrenched homophobia is hardly a thing of antiquity, in some circles. Going to work, the day after Frank Ocean performed at the Grammys that time...not fun. I know a couple of people who are out to some people in their lives but not others, more casual acquaintances from work than BFFs and they both happen to be black men, late twenties, early thirties. I don't know their families and I'm not one to post too many real names on the web anyway, so it's not a huge issue for me personally, having to edit myself as not to out them. Still, these guys aren't remotely famous, so that makes much easier for them to contain information.

     

    With respect to Jamal, I could buy that the most mainstream of mainstream media wouldn't say a word about his sexuality, and once he made his announcement, it would be a surprise for people who only casually paid attention to celebrity on that level. Given that Jamal was the son of a supposed hip-hop legend and a recording artist of some celebrity in his own right, the show presenting it like no one outside of Empire knew about him being gay at all, rang false. It would be all over the hip hop blogs and black pop culture forums, that Jamal had a live-in boyfriend and maybe some photos of them in social settings would have leaked. So it would be one of those things that some people "knew" but others who paid less attention, or didn't know where to look, or are generally oblivious to things like that, would have no idea, until his move at the white party. Kind of like what you saw after Anderson Cooper, Matt Bomer or Jodie Foster went public, and some people were very surprised by their news, and others were surprised that anyone was surprised, since they weren't exactly in hiding before.

     

     

    He's Australian? I don't know the actor and was thinking, maybe British (don't they also say "arse"?). I've been having trouble understanding his dialogue in general. I know that some issues can cut across cultural/national lines, like colorism, but with respect to homosexuality, I did find myself wondering if the cultural attitudes toward homosexuality among British blacks were the same or worse than they were historically, among black Americans (not that they are great among all white Americans, either). If he's really supposed to be Australian, and not just a Australian actor using an iffy accent, then it would be very odd, coming from him.

    well the black british and black australians tend to be directly from Africa as in they can name the tribe, ethinicity and area their family is from and since  the european conversion  of western africans to christinaity lol they are ten times worse.  From my what i've seen Africans and blacks in the carribean have attitudes toward homsexuality that  would make some of the most die hard antigay republicians cringe.

     

    They embrace some of british culture but are still very traditional especially Nigerians , Ethiopians,Somalians, etc  the younger ones may be a little more open minded but  only to a point.

     

    I agree with everytihng you said at the top due to media gossip a large amount of people would already known about jamal's boyfriend michael probably had photos of him in a fictional people magazine , national enquirer ,  and there would be some naive people who say oh there just friends but others would know they were a couple. So that kind was unrealsitic to me  everyone being shocked he was gay

  2. My wife, who's much more interested in Jussie than I ever will be, took a look at a few of his photos and said "He's gay".  LOL

     

    I guess since my interests don't run that way, I don' t pick up signals others do.  Still matters not a whit to me -- I like living in a world where whether an actor is gay or not doesn't affect their work, or how popular they are.

    That would be an ideal world lol but jussie himself obviously doesn't agree he pulls the queen latifah stunt everytime he is asked about his sexuality basically saying he's gay but not saying it , In someone his storyline on empire is ironic seeing as it seems to mirror his real life at least the life of being a clebrity male hiding his sexuality.

  3. i honestly find Annika boring as hell and very unrealistic for a hiphop wife  the type of women who marry these men aren't generally as naive and have alot more street smarts than she does.


    Annika is the girl the rapper marries after he already becomes successful sand a multimillionaire and has baby momma or two. But the real life version of her has alot more street smarts than this chick and knows how to play her position.

     

    being cheated on by rapper is not a suprise they all fuck groupies,video vixens etc  and she married him for his status so i don't feel any sympathy for her

  4. If Walter White and Stringer Bell can have diehard fans who sympathize with them, then Cookie sure can (I was a big fan of both terribly flawed characters myself).

    I do think she needs a formidable opponent because Anika sure isn't it, at least in her current incarnation. I think (hope) a lot of this will be worked out in season 2.

     

    but you forget cookie is a woman not just a woman black at that so she gets even less of a pass lol  people hate the black characters on mostly white televison shows even when the black charcater is the one who has the most sense.

     

     

    Male characters can rape a woman , murder a child, murder people endless and still be fan favorites and have women shipping them with other characters while female characters get bashed endlessly for the most stupid shit. Alot of this is because of dumb shipping wars and fans having their favorite couples and i thank god empire does not play into shipping  it's clear Andre has way more chemistry with cookie than he does Annika

     

    every fandom i've seen from breaking bad to game of thrones it is always the female who is the most hated character no matter how evil or cruel the actions of the male character may be it always either a wife (breaking bad) , child (game of thrones -sansa) who seems to get criticized for the dumbest shit

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  5. I'll pick one nit with this episode:  I hated the street confrontation between Luscious and Beretti and their gangs, with all these douchebags pulling out their penis substitute guns.  How, um, American TV.  (By the way, how do other countries even do TV shows without everybody having a gun like it is here?  I can't even imagine.)  I'm so over seeing a bunch of guys pointing guns at each other and then, dum dum DUM, cocking the hammer when they're reeeellly mad.  

     

    OTOH, I just read an interview with record executives about Empire and one of them said the street element is real in the music business.  So maybe the scene was somewhat accurate, except for it taking place on a main street in broad daylight.  Still don't like it though.

     

    Ha ha, gotta admit that was funny.

    lol yes it is 

     

    i know in real life  they had real og gangster working behind the scenes of the early hiphop record labels

     

    p.diddy running with black mafia family

    suge knight with bloods

    50 cent with supreme

     

    it seems most rappers have shady backgrounds  where they might not have been actually doing dirt but seem connected to a well known drug dealer or dope dealer who everyone in the hood knows was doing dirt for real

  6. i don't think the family knew of Andre's official diagnosis, but they (at least Luscious, Andre and Hakeem--probably not Cookie) have had experiences with some of Andre's "episodes". Andre probably sought help when he was in college, away from his family. 

     

    As for Cookie, how young can someone show indications of bipolar? Would Cookie have been witnessed to any episodes before she went to prison? 

     

    The elevator scene was great, but I thought Andre was gonna smash Hakeem and Jamal's heads together. 

    this whole scenario is probably based off the stereotype alot of black families seemed to dismiss mental illness

     

    i see this alot in real life to the go to answer for black families dealing with thoughts of suicide , depression etc  is always pray on it  instead of going to see professional help. I use to work in the church and every time anyone had these type of issues htere would be a let's pray for them  not let's refer them to a professional who can actually help them with thewir problem.

     

    it doesn't help the term "mentally ill"  has a stigma associated with it that nobody wants

    This was another example of how this show can surprise me. From the previews, I thought that scene was going to end with the brothers just fighting each other. Instead, it turned into one of the most moving scenes of the series.

    I loved that scene but honestly i thought Andre was going to harm his brothers

     

    like seriously talk about a horror movie when they were first in that elevator dude look like he could snap at any moment.  The whole expression nad look he had would be perfect for a horror movie

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  7. Jane The Virgin is a great example of everything you just mentioned.

    Jane the virgin is built off an offensive and very dumb ass premise . If the show really had balls the storyline wouldn't exist. Seriously in real life no woman i know would be cool with that scenario

     

    but i agree with you that other shows handle being fast pace better than empire  its a little to melodramtic for me actually 90% of tv shows geared towards african americans are way to over the top for me and i'm black lol.  It like black tv shows forget that its not either hood, or super religious black people their are regualr everyday black people dammit. Even this show is just stereotype after stereotype and it supposedly produced by a black man.

     

    Andre is interesting but without his bipolar disorder dude would be very boring he could gain alot more depth if this show had better writers.

  8. Ya know, I'm a jaded jaded viewer, I love me some high class original recipe Upstairs Downstairs, and I, Claudius, and a lot of other deep shows.  Now this episode?  It made my top five ever - it started running and never stopped and there was more plot than three seasons of Dallas.  Damn, that was some brilliant writing and performances.  

     

    I can't wait to watch it over again! 

    lol  it would take dallas ten whole season just to move through half the plot points covered in the past three episodes lol

     

    yes i loved this episode onyl thing i wish is that htye did a little more character development i mean damn this show doesn't give you time to breathe.

     

    everything happens at breakneck speed

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  9. Jennifer Hudson--awesome!  I'm also wondering,in pseudo-diagnosing Andre over the Internet, whether he felt badly because he wasn't musically talented like the rest of the family.  You could see it in that elevator scene,which is why I thought it was so lovingly and sensitively handled by his brothers.

    i thought that was hialrious because someone made a joke on another board about the cure to Andre's illness was him getting a black woman

     

    lol

     

    He has never looked at Rhonda the way he was with jennnifer hudson in them clips,   him and rhonda have this weird cold demented sexual relationship that whole scene where she had him call her another woman's name said alot about her mindstate nad i don't like it.

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  10. That sharecropper comment, though. O.o I would never thrive in this business, because I would have had, at the very least, a massive "WTF?" look on my face.

    The elevator scene was heartbreaking and touching. Trai was definitely the MVP of this episode and I think he's the most interesting brother. I don't think his brothers knew that he was bipolar, but they knew that there was something and that there was a way to calm him down. I can't wait to see the Cookie/Andre scene next week.

    LOL  I was like did this white guy just say that .  I wish luscious had got gangsta with his ass

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  11. I wouldn't say it screams "straight" (or "gay" for that matter).  To me it mutters "None of your business"!  LOL

    lol stop dude is gay in real life in thats not a bad thing

     

    its funny how alot of raven symone inner circle   are all gay/lesbian not a bad thing  but its interesting seeing as they tried to pretend he and raven was a couple at one time

     

    btw anyyone who thinks this guys is straight is really naive and i see why some women end up with dl men lol this dude has plenty of pics on tumblr and online clearly showcasing he likes men and there nothing wrong with that but lets not be blind to the obvious it reminds me of how female fans were shocked clay aiken was gay.

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  12. Andre never said "I just want them to accept me" he said he wanted acceptance and luscious took that to mean from white folks. Andre is clearly looking for acceptance from a black man. When he was speaking to Vernon he said he couldn't believe they didn't invite him to sing in the booth. He wants acceptance from his black family but he can't get it because he's not a musician so they cast him aside.

    Lee Daniels and trai Byers have made it clear than Andre and Rhonda truly care for each other. Rhonda is not just a trophy to him and Andre is not just a come up for her. If anything that description seems to better fit Anika and luscious.

    I fail to see what "vision" Hakeem has but he has daddy's full support

    In the pilot Andre and lucious discuss how Andre helped him build empire while he was in school. Andre has always been helping luscious for empire so he didn't just come back because the company was successful

    I don't think lee Daniels is trying to classify all black people as anything but the Lyons family clearly values musical talent over all else

    im sorry but i just dont see Rhonda seems like an opportunist and the way she has constantly tried to pit Andre against his family me dont like her.

     

    Everything about her screams stereotype of white goldddigger trying to leech off rich alck man and like i said before she wouldnt look twice at Andre if he was a regualr black guy.

  13. I assumed that he immediately identified himself because he was calling from a pay phone, and knew Frank wouldn't recognize the number.  Maybe Frank, not recognizing the number calling,  answered with a - "who is this?".

     

     

    Didn't Nate also inadvertently contribute to this mess by asking Rebecca to get Sam's computer files?  I wonder if Nate is going to connect the dots when Rebecca turns up missing.

     

     

    Why is Bonnie a snake?  Next to Asher and Nate, she's the most innocent person on the show.

    bonnie innocent have you seen all the shady stuff she done on the show for annalise she may relatively have her hands clean but if they had showed bonnie killing lila that would not have been shocking.  Alot of the things Annalise has had her do during this sam/lila/rebecca trial was shady , alot of the things annalise had her do during the various triials has also been shady and sometimes unethical. 

     

    bonnie just like frank has shown she will go above and beyond the call of duty for annalise .

     

    Asher has been the only one who has actual kept his moral compass working for annalise. Mainly because Annalise has never asked him to do anything shady

     

    her relationship with annalise is just weird its like she want's to be annalise boyfriend or something

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  14. This is what I got with Cookie in the pilot when she asked him why he married that white girl. I thought she really wanted to know if Andre was that guy or if he just happened to fall in love with a white woman. Despite Andre saying he wasn't accepted by the Lyons because he lacked musical talent, Andre also told us that he is that guy. Except he's working for a black company which is kinda confusing. 

    Also his wife keeps trying to get him to destroy his family

     

    which is crazy to me . Luscious is not dumb  he sees right through Andre  luscious empire owuld be all white  in less than 2 generations if it got in Andre hands. His wife rhonda is desperate for that money

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  15. Sometimes I get sick of Cookie, but I think it's because she doesn't say the right words, she doesn't have the language to say what she means in a nicer way; she goes for the jugular and to me, that wears thin.

     

    I think at the end, when Cookie looked at the photograph and remembered being in prison and singing "You're so beautiful" to herself, alone in prison was when you saw the REAL Cookie, the woman who is doing all of this, not for herself, but for her children.  That's why she can't stand Anika, not because she's lighter skinned, or a former debutante, but because Cookie sees Anika as stealing "her" life.  I had a friend whose husband divorced her and married a younger woman; the younger woman had been a friend of hers, and now she realizes that this woman wanted her life and that's why she wanted her husband.  It's not that Cookie feels entitled, she just wants to make sure that this company is there for her children.

     

     

    But are you saying that Andre marrying a white woman was a way for him to "feel safe?"  The truth is that there are more black women in college and graduate school than black men; so I SMH when they show an Ivy League educated black man married to a white woman, as if black women don't exist in Ivy League schools.

    lol all the college educated black women i know be complaiing about there barely being any brothers on campus  at some schools there are like 10 blacks for every 1 black guy

     

    so yea i think thats funny.  Even at alot of the hbcu's the male to female ratio is ridcculously skewed  some of these schools have a 70% female popualtion so you can't tell me a black man has a hard time finding a sister in college because there are plenty of them.

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  16. Right there with you! I've enjoyed Wes the whole season, and I was worried for him the last few episodes.

     

    Loved his final scene with Annalise!

    i thought that scene was so creepy

     

    honeslty im not feeling the annalise/wes realtionship its just so disturbing on all levels

     

    gives me creepy incest mother/son vibes the show can't decide whether she is his really his mother or wants to fuck him .

    It's not about whether or not Annalise loved Nate, it's about protective herself all while getting him off (no pun intended). She likes to play things close to the chest and the less people know, the better even if they are involved with whatever she is scheming about. And it's a way of controlling him. Anything could happen and he could rat her out, then what? Regardless of how she feels, she has fucked him over and he could do the same if she were honest. I'm not saying she's right, but she does has some survival instincts. 

    i know but Annalise is satan in the flesh

     

    i don't like the way she manipulates people

     

    I really don't understand how Asher works for her.  He is so clueless to all the bullshit going on around him everyone from bonnie to annalise is lying to him

  17. If I were Analise, I'd be really ticked off that there was another dead body in my house. How may floors can she scrub?

    i just fell out laughing lmaooooooo

     

    seriously  i wish  someone on the show would use this line lol

     

    Annalise has done so much shady ass shit on this show and the whole setting up nate was such a low down dirty move if nate had put his hands on her at this point i wouldnt blame him

     

    Annalise is a snake so is frank , bonnie and laurel

     

    i would not sleep with my eyes closed are these three fuckers

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  18. I'll rephrase (oooh, I feel like a lawyer saying that-lol). Even though Wes struck the blow that killed Sam, the others were obviously involved in the cover-up, so they're all feeling guilt for their particular roles.

    the cover up is the dumbest part of the show not one of them liked rebecca

     

    especially micheala ,coonor or laurel so why would they risk their future to save wes dumbass druggie girlfriend  that scene , the burial and the cover up was the dumbest part of the hsow

     

    i honestly wish they would have just had annalise kill sam that would made more sense

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  19. Viola confirmed that Sam killed Lila on Jimmy Kimmel.  She and Frank discovered Rebecca's body.

    that rebecca scene was real weird

     

    i originally assumed frank murdered her but now im not so sure

     

    actually i think it was either wes or laurel especially laurel story about hiding michaela wedding ring

     

    seriously wtf laurel has proven to havel ittle to no empathy on this show i mean she was the only one who didnt freak out after they dismembered sam  she is crazy this chick has been cool and calm through this whole ordeal

     

    something neither wes, rebecca, annalise,bonnie, franke etc can claim something aint right about laurel

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  20. I need to say a word about Michaela and Laurel. At the beginning of the season, I didn't find either one too interesting, but boy has that changed. After tonight, I am intrigued with where they take Michaela next season, now that she's no longer engaged nor trying to be the perfect preppy princess (I hope!) As for Laurel, her dead-eyed stare apparently hides the heart of someone as ruthless as Annalise. She and Frank may be a perfect match after all. I won't be at all surprised if Laurel killed Rebecca.

     

    Then again, knowing this show, it was probably Rudy, escaped from the mental institution and wreaking his revenge on Rebecca.

     

    ETA:

     

     

    It felt to me like the K5 were scapegoating Rebecca in response to their own guilt. If she killed Lila, then she set in motion all the events of Murder Night #1 (Night of the Flying Cheerleader), and they get to absolve themselves for killing Sam.

    wes is the only one who killed sam

     

    which is why the whole thing is stupid to begin with

     

    wes murderd him not michaela , not connor, not annalise it was wes.  Wes murdered him because he told his dumbass girlfriend something annalise told him not to tell her so she comes up with that dumb plan to go to sam's house and get the evidence only problem was he is home but no rebecca the smartass still tries to get the evidence and set all the events in motion that lead to his death

     

    so yes it was her fault

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  21. Do you think there is anyway that Laurel could have known Frank killed Lila, or perhaps had a suspicion? I ask because her basically asking him to "take care" of Rebecca seemed a bit OTT. Yeah, he's done some shady shit, but going from getting rid of a car to murdering someone is quite a leap.

    didn't he ask annalise did she need him to handle sam's sister like three episodes ago and the way he used the word handle was not in a friendly manner lol

     

    im not shocked at frank killing honestly next to annalise he is one of the most shady characters on this show and i can't figure him out because we don't really get to see him on screen alot 

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  22. Wes was in an almost fetal position on the stairs, claiming it was all his fault. He very well could have killed Rebecca. But I don't think so. It takes a cold-blooded person to do that. Wes just doesn't have it in him to kill a girl he loved.

    Frank looked like a straight up BOSS when he was climbing up them steps lol

     

     

    he looks like an old school gangster lol

     

    the music was great it gave me a creepy/horror vibe to it  i knew sam was full of shit when he told lila's dumb ass he loved her and she fell for it. Did she really think he was gonna leave his wiffe for some trashy college skank who hopped in bed with a married man

     

    please

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  23. I liked Rebecca. I felt for her when she realized that Wes no longer had faith in her. She loved him and his paranoia set in motion the actions that led to her death. This is his real sin. 

    i wouldnt blame him she acted guilty

     

    she was just to smug and ungrateful for me to feel sorry for her and hte whole scenario of black male risks his future for dumb emo white girl who is not even remotedly attractive is to eyeroll worthy for me to ignore

     

     

    'like this show hasn't given me one reason why wes thought rebecca was so special or more attractive than michaela or laurel

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