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On 8/25/2020 at 1:36 PM, t7686 said:
Ugggh I can’t decide who I hate more Bailey or Julia. Bailey’s just so patronizing/ the taking Owen away thing and Julia is incredibly selfish. The first seasons are fantastic, gets a little rough after Charlie’s cancer. I can’t seem to get through seasons 5 &6. What does everyone think about the custody episodes?
I cannot agree more strongly with the above. Worst characters in the whole show! Julia totally lost me with her whining that Charlie didn't tell her about his cancer - she acted like he GAVE her cancer instead! The number of "GOD [insert name here]!" Eyeroll, head tilt cannot be counted (and would give you alcohol poisoning if it was included in a drinking game).
Bailey has very rare moments of decency but overall is incredibly patronising, misogynistic and has his head so far up his own behind. He uses every woman who comes into contact with him - Sarah to Callie to Annie.
Charlie generally suffers some repercussions and a bit of "growth" which means I can tolerate his frequent bouts of selfishness. He was the only one who tried with Claudia after his hospital stay in season 4 to get down to what was bothering her in an appropriate way. Bailey and Julia seemed content with blaming her for ditching school and that was the end of it.
But what gets me watching it as not a 9 year old is just how cruel the "adults" are to Claudia and Owen. Knowing the importance of attachment theory and growth stages, it is awful how the kids are treated. Claudia having a tent in the lounge for 2 seasons was "quirky" but also sad messaging. As was her clothes being in Julia's room and her having to ask permission. There is no way that would happen if the parents were alive. Copping the blame for social services coming because Julia and Bailey couldn't/wouldn't care for her. Letting her isolate herself. Getting a burst appendix when Julia ignored her for the roofer (for which there was no apology. It's unsurprising but sad she would rather stay home than go to the snow with the "adult" siblings, 2 of which are just dismissive when they aren't being hateful.
As for Owen, Julia talks at him, dismissively. Doesn't know what food he wants or whines when he only wants white food when Charlie is sick. Feeds him popcorn rather than actual food. Bailey uses him as a prop. It is harder where the kid actor can't be in a lot of scenes but still.
Kirsten is more of a parent/sibling/friend to Claudia and Owen than Bailey/Julia (at times, Charlie too). She even makes an effort to set boundaries for the kids. Claudia and Owen should have gone to her.
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On 1/1/2023 at 4:39 PM, ancslove said:
Princess Mary of Denmark? I know the Danish royals are relatives of Philip, but none of the continental royal families seem as close to the BRF on a day to day/face to face basis as they are to each other, although there’s clearly familial and professional affection between the BRF and the eg Danes, Swedes, etc
Well, yeah. Given she was just a 'commoner' from Australia there would seem to be an option there. Plus they had a get-together after the queen died so it's not like they are unknown to eachother.
10 hours ago, statsgirl said:He may not have expected the racism and its extent because it seems that the RF are unaware of their own (Lady Susan Hussey is so casual and unaware of her racism, who thought that it was a good idea to have her be someone to teach Meghan royal protocol?).
But what I think he expected the least was for BP to encourage and possibly even supply information for attacks on Meghan to make Kate look good or deflect from Andrew's scandals. Few of us expect family to behave like that and especially not when you've made a pact with your brother to always support each other after seeing what happened to your mother.
If you're as obtuse as Harry seems to be re: racism, then sure he gets a pass. In circumstances where all wives have been battered by the press and he had a front row view to one of them, it just comes across as disingenuous to say the criticism of Meghan was unexpected. He didn't have to expect the level of racism, because not smart, but not expecting any criticism and not giving her a hand to start with?
When did Hussey give royal protocol lessons to Meghan? I thought per her she had no help and no training?
I would like them to name what information was given to the press to make either Kate look good or deflect from Andrew. I'm don't disbelieve a claim of feeding one lot to save another but what stories and when? Surely they would know and it would give some specificity to the generalised allegations. They have zero to lose given the BRF will never comment.
To be really cynical, it seems like Harry wasn't particularly sympathetic to Meghan when she wanted mental health treatment and is now determined to blame everyone else but him. Doesn't sound like he was leading any charge to get her treated but wanted it to resolve by itself. Comes across as very disingenous.
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Two things;
First, seems bizzare that Harry would look at the way the press treated his mum & kate (both future queens), his previous girlriends and think the press wouldn't attack Meghan for breaches in "protocol" or for stupid reasons. Doesn't make him seem particularly astute but more self-involved, although given he is an unwarranted privileged kid that isn't surprising. He didn't have to do princess training himself, but you don't have to have that much common sense to see Meghan would be picked on. The only thing he said that made sense is that he didn't expect the racism which, again, he isn't very bright. If there was complaining that "my wife had to go through that.." it suggests that everyone knew wives were up for grabs.
Second, if marrying into the BRF as a foreign "commoner" is such a big deal and so hard - why not get Princess Mary on the blower to give some, perhaps helpul advice?
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On 11/22/2022 at 1:24 PM, juno said:
Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23. Crazy show that is so funny. Krysten Ritter is amazing.
Yes!!!!!!!!! Hilarious
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Better than movies 3 & 4
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5 hours ago, MagnusHex said:
and now in the latest episode I'm watching, Here She Comes... Miss Amphipolis, Xena is disguised as the titular Miss Amphipolis herself. That's not even mentioning the other characters/personas Renee O'Connor has played in the aforementioned 1940s and Miss Amphipolis episodes.
Agree totally on the different character thing but in that particular episode it is different - it isn't a whole new character but Xena pretending to be Miss Amphipolis. With Diana, Meg and the Hestian Priestess, they were wholly separate characters from Xena.
Totally agree, Lucy Lawless was great as them all.
And I think there was also Ted Raimi as all three Joxer twins, Michael Hurst played a few others on Xena, Aphrodite did too. Karl Urban as Cesaer and Cupid. I think it is nice that they kept it in house with the people that really liked or loved the show.
I wasn't a great fan of the Christian-lite episodes but liked the Dahak stuff. Although I love the show so I watch it all anyway.
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22 hours ago, Blergh said:
Even that said, though, I hated it when they made the whole original cast James Spader's literal wallpaper (I mean they even had a promo appearing as such) and refused to ever watch Boston Legal as a result!
I can get that. It's just I am finding the tone from after the first season gets so hypocritically sanctamonious with Bobby and Berluti the worst with Lindsay a close second. Every client from season 3 onwards is innocent, as is Bobby when he breaches privilege, has a friend for a client, has someone killed and without ever considering he is wrong. Plus what self respecting adult calls himself Bobby in court? There is always the framing of "defence lawyers are doing great unappreciated work" but this representation is wholly offputting.
The tone is wildly different but I think Boston Legal can get away with the Court theatrics and the last minute rabbits because it has more of the irreverent tone that The Practice lacks because it takes itself too seriously. Lindsay having an immediate birth with no warning in a Courtroom while Bobby is useless would work on BL or Ally McBeal but not The Practice. It's like trying to have cake and eat it too but it can't.
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On 3/9/2022 at 9:27 PM, Tara said:
Never watched this series in its day. First thing that prompted me to post — Ellenor, the Camryn Manheim character, boy, is she ever unlikeable! The trial where they were recommended for disbarment, talk about not taking any blame at all for your own stupid actions. Sheesh.
Started watching this on Disney+ and I don't know why I keep watching it. They are all awful, all unethical, all morons. Except Helen although she has her moments. Bobby and Lindsay are terrible people and I would pay money if Bobby Donnell would talk above a whisper just so we know he "really really means it". And Berluti comes across as the guy who would believe that ivermectin cures Covid-19.
The only people who stay relatively the same and less objectionable seems to be Helen and Eugene. And Lucy.
I'm very surprised this show was so well lauded back in the day.
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17 hours ago, gingerella said:
Then the way she said she could go to her sister's, there was a clear underlying message of 'if you go your job mightn't be here waiting for you but you should go...'
I rewatched that scene and I really didn't interpret it in any way like that. I agree Anne forced the doctor on her - likely a class attitude of 'we know best' and Cordingley didn't want that whatsoever. I think there was enough in Cordingley's reaction that she's not seen a good doctor in her living memory given her reaction.
From then in large part the tension is from the "can't lie in bed all day' comment which Cordingley thought would be taken as a dig against Aunt Ann when I don't think it was at all. Anne telling her to check in with her sister was more her way of giving a lower class the likely accepted treatment of the time - rest and a warmer climate. When Cordingley asks who will cook, Anne says she will find someone, "temporarily" and dips down so she is eye level when she says it which to me is as close to kind Anne really gets with a servant. Her voice is not as harsh as usual and while is slightly rapidfire not to the same level as her usual Anne. I think it was more her way of trying to be nice to an sore servant and making it a bit clearer she wasn't truly offended by the bed comment.
I'm not saying everyone has to see things the same way that was just how I took that scene. I think Anne's behavior with Cordingley was a hell of a lot nicer than the young servant girl at Mariana's place.
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On 5/29/2022 at 2:47 PM, gingerella said:
I loathe the way she tries to come across as the benevolent land owner whilst making her staff feel as though they are going to be out out on the street. ie: the infirmed cook. Sending her off to her sister's to rest, and yet holding an unspoken threat over her that if she did go to her sister's there mightn't be a job for her when she was ready to come back.
I didn't think that she was threatening her at all. I think it was a rare time she was trying to be kind to someone of the "lower" class than she was and was actually trying to show she cares on some level - by getting the doctor to look at her first and then resorting to the more humid climate medicine of those times. Anne isnt gonna be someone who calls her staff by their first names but will help a cripple boy go to school, teach physics and maths in a Sunday school and send a cook for rest. Anne has/had bad traits but there is some good sides, like everyone.
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I love this show. I love that they are teenagers and aren't solving murders or being stalked or getting married or anything "deep" like any teen show Eg Dawson's Creek or PLL. I love the drama is getting a job or their favourite teacher leaving or trying to land a massive ride, even in the troubles. I don't even care that Clare coming out barely batted an eyelid (no way would a teen come out in 1990's Northern Ireland, let alone wearing gay rainbow pins) because I love it so much. I love their parents are in their 30s but they got 50 year olds to play them because that's what your parents look like when you are dumb and young. I am sad it is done but it went out well
I also felt that the actress playing Jenny Joyce needs a shout out. Jenny was perfection - the out of tune performances particularly are amazing.
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I liked Spencer & Caleb on PLL and I liked Hannah and Caleb on PLL. Both worked for me. I would have also accepted Mona & Hannah if Mona didn't run Hannah over. And I hated Emily & Alison and had no feelings about Emily & Paige.
I liked Stef & Lena on The Fosters as a couple but not necessarily as parents.
Roseanne & Dan on Roseanne were 40s couple goals - as a couple and as parents.
The wives on Big Love were better together than with Bill.
Xena & Gabrielle were the most beautiful unofficial couple of the 90s. Couple goal.
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23 hours ago, Danielg342 said:
I guess this means that, while Hollywood plays up a lot of things for drama, I still feel it gets the essence of teen drama right.
I think Hollywood magnifies the normal teen experience of not fitting in by the metaphors, the one episode special event or the three-episode arc of lesbianism (looking at you The OC) but it doesn't really get the real life teen drama right IMO.
For example, the foster kid who turns around when they are told they aren't disposable and grows up into a lawyer who rights the system (Neighbbours, Home & Away, The Fosters, The OC, Dawson's Creek etc). I work in youth justice law and even when you believe in the kids and know exactly why they are doing what they do, the mess that child protection "authorities" leaves them in renders them without a chance and more likely to be institutionalised in jail or mental health before you can blink and they never get the opportunity for "the love of a good family" to "fix them". I really hate to say it but The Trial of Gabriel Fernandez is more realistic for kids in trouble than any teen drama Hollywood produces and I wish it were different.
I thought differently, thanks TV.
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I wonder if the reason that the trial has lost the original focus and turned into this ridiculous circus - original being Depp's civil suit re: defamation - with Heard's counter suit for damages and whether the counter suit was a tactical mistake. I would like to hear from any Yankee lawyers about this.
I'm a lawyer in Australia and we just had an actor (not on Depp's stage but still) pull a defamation proceeding because it wasn't going his way (legally and in the media, where reps were being massively damaged) and this was after he was aquitted of sexual offences against the same actress (the defamation claim involved journos too of course but was able his sexually inappropriate behaviour - and yes he claimed a #metoo witchhunt but that is done). Most legal practitioners I have spoken to expected a withdrawal of that claim because of the difficulty in defamation cases - but I accept Australia is more in line with England when it comes to defamation and perhaps we are very different than America?
Was it a tactical mistake from Heard's lawyer to countersue for damages which has had the unintended perhaps consequences of making her look like a "liar" where her team wasn't necessarily ready for that and where Depp's lawyers & publicist were more....savvy in making it seem like if Amber "lied" about the abuse then she by default is guilty of the defamation where there is no actual evidence that the op-ed lead to the consequences Depp alleged? It seems almost like Heard's lawyers didn't prep enough for this circus that has erupted in the Court and the media from all this.
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I wonder if the more comfortable Ann W is getting at Shibden, the more comfortable she is allowing herself to be smart. She has totally clocked the Mariana-shagging of last episode and felt comfortable enough to toe around it with Anne. She also clocked her B-I-L's plan to destabilise her by the 'distressings' and evictions requested by her sister before Anne did and is fully over how controlling of her sister he is. She was also slightly quicker on what the possible consequences of the mob could mean for Shibden than Anne was. I like the development and that her assertiveness is the only thing holding her back really.
Anne...she was brutal with Marion and just cruel. I got the initial distaste for the dude in the beginning when it was more that he dropped Marian like a sack of potatoes and I was all "aww sisters". But disowning her cause he is a wool stapler? Especially when she is living on the edge with Ann like that with the only grace being the idea of companions (until the marriage announcement at the end). Bit hypocritical. At least they aren't shying away from the less pleasant sides of Anne Lister to fall into the gay icon narrative I also loved the way Suranne Jones made "Wool Stapler" sound like "sheep shagger". But Marion needed a hug! And Anne needed to get into the corner.
I also love Mrs Cordingley - and the eye roll after she caught the young ones eyeballing each other
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Oh Aunt Ann definately knows Ann is more than a companion. Also given the talk last season, she knows Anne loves women in all ways even if she doesn't know the ins and outs of her love life. After this episode, Marian at least verbalised it for herself
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Yeah the earlier seasons were the best. I mostly stopped after season 7. The cast chemistry wasn't the same.
That said, Grissom does start bugging a bit earlier for me
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So Wanda is dead? If so, I'm out of the MCU for sure
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Marian remains amazing. Her interactions with Aunt Ann was hilarious. She is quickly becoming the MVP of this season.
Mariana however, played Anne quite well and it definately shows a lot about their history. Shows something about Anne who caved after a pretty good appeal to her intellect and her conservatively feminist leanings.
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I love Marian. She has quickly become an absolute fave. She is getting some great lines and scenes this season. Love it.
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I think Conrad (Coco) comes across as a really depressed/anxious teenager, which he obviously was. There are really ugly bits to it and the not ugly - like the last video his mum was watching. Add to that some weird family dynamics and there you go. I can't say the show has made me feel like he deserved to die even a little bit or that Michelle was justified because he was irritating at moments.
I'm still not getting a read on Michelle. Did she actually want treatment for bulimia? Was it just a holiday? Was she trying to be as sick as Coco?
I do think it's a mistake not acting like her in the trial. I remember seeing her just act so cold during the trial, no tears nothing and thought that was way more interesting than the obligatory tear. Although I'd watch Elle Fanning do anything so its more the direction than anything
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5 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:
I’m getting the feeling that the show used to much liberty with extra stuff like Glee. I don’t find it amusing. I was a Glee fan, but I’d rather not see it here, unless it’s true.
I read that the real Michelle Carter tried to connect to Lea Michele via social media with the whole shared dead boyfriends thing and was overall a massive "gleek" so I buy the constant references. The Can't Fight This Feeling scene was pretty good at getting it across.
Was Susie and that relationship real?
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Anne vaciliating between loving Ann or not was a bit of a shift from the hill proposal and marriage of the final season.
I love Marion
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15 hours ago, SlovakPrincess said:
How can you charge $2000 for that? Insanity, but I guess they can get away with it because very silly rich tourists will pay for a "VIP" experience.
My favourite bit was the very quick shot of the driver having the best time drinking the tea and eating the biscuits! I hope that is a real perk those guys get when driving around awful rich people (not saying all rich people are awful, just meaning rich people who are awful)
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8 hours ago, Melina22 said:
Exactly. I can't understand why it wasn't considered theft. Anna knew she had no money and Rachel handed over her card under great duress.
Right! It is like a flatmate refusing to pay their share of the rent for three months and you having to cover it in the short term so you wouldn't be homeless - there is a contract, everyone knows their obligation.
Hell, it is like a much much much more expensive version of covering a mate's share of the restaurant bill when they 'forget' their wallet and then refuse to pay. If I were Rachel I would be pissed, I'd want out of all the debt and I would want the grifter to pay. And I cannot dream of affording a $65k luxury vacation
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Barbie (2023)
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I did not know the cast was so awesome - I only saw Margot and Gosling and thought it was just them.
But Emma Mackey (her and Margot could pass for sisters I swear so hilarious choice)
Ncuti Gatwa
Claire from Derry Girls
Helen Mirren, Issa Rae, America.....so excited now. I'll definately make an effort (more than I would have when thought it was just Margot and Gosling)