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13 minutes ago, Albanyguy said:Interesting that the Duggars, of all people, are into Jack-and-Jill showers. Given their strict adherence to traditional gender roles, you'd think it would be somehow "ungodly" or "unmanly" for the guys to participate in an event that is traditionally just for the womenfolk. I'm guessing that it's because a Duggar son is getting married and making the shower co-ed gives them more control over the event and a bigger opportunity to show off.
It could be that it ties in with the accountability thing and their obessesion about everyone needing to be together at all times, no exceptions. It's like they almost fetishize co-dependency. Married couples must do everything together or else some brazen hussy might start making sandwiches for your husband. Or something. Might as well start at the wedding shower. I'll bet they'll do what Jill and Jessa did and insist on spending their entire wedding day together as well. Properly chaperoned of course lest they are overcome with desires that can not be righteously fulfilled and do a sinful front hug before the ceremony.
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Those are some of the most half-assed decorations I've ever seen. It looks like they just grabbed whatever was near and plonked it down on the table. And is that construction paper they're using as a table cloth? I mean, it matches the beige walls very well, but maybe on your son's wedding shower you could splurge out on something actually meant for a table?
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Congratulations on having a baby that is actually baby-sized!
I actually feel bad for Jill now.
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I've always felt that if Bin hadn't been brought up they way he was, religion-wise and politically, he'd be a pretty solid good guy. I think he's got a core of decency that regularly tries to assert itself but he's surrounded by people who either don't value that part of him or actively oppose it, so he keeps it under wraps most of the time. He's a bit dopey and doesn't seem terribly clever but I do think he's genuinely kind despite being misguided and ignorant about a lot of issues. He comes across as very earnest. And while I disagree with almost all of his beliefs, at least he appears to be genuine about them, unlike someone like Jim Bob whose beliefs perfectly suit his own wants and needs and cater to and excuse all his character flaws.
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And they have a token black guy too.
Does anyone know how common it is for POC to be part of the Quiverfull/ATI sub-culture? From what I've seen everyone appears to be lily-white aside from a few adopted children and a scattering of people of latin/south American descent, so how did that guy end up among the Gothardites? Do they target immigrants?
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"Breakfast casserole"
Am I to understand that this dry looking thing is something one is supposed to choke down for breakfast? I know that a lot of Americans have a fondness for eating cooked food for their morning meal, but this... If she'd left out the tater tots and most of the cheese it could've made a nice oven omelette and a bit easier to stomach but this looks more like a very filling dinner dish than something I would want to put in my mouth first thing in the morning. To be fair, I can barely manage toast but this just seems excessive.
It's kind of funny how different Jill's cooking is vs Jessa's. Jessa makes breakfast for dinner, just spoons up some yoghurt and wallah! [sic], and Jill makes a massive stick-to-your-ribs calorie bomb for breakfast. Makes me wonder how the daily meals were proportioned in the Duggar household when they were growing up.
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At first I genuinely thought it was Jill in the first pic/video still which is weird because I've never thought Jill and Jana look anything alike.
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Are mandarins/clementines not a common fruit in the US or is it just this "cutie" sort that's unusual?
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1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:
No, Cuties are small oranges (or tangerines)? I've seen them, but they're generally sold in bulk...too much for just two people.
Oh well, semicolons are hard. Like math.
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3 minutes ago, Pingaponga said:
What exactly is a "small cutie"? I'm Canadian, and I've never heard of them. Although, if they don't need to be peeled, they sound pretty awesome and should be sold here.
SOTDRT strikes again!
Unless she meant to write kumquat.
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9 hours ago, Nysha said:
I think it's more like a class/education/sophistication thing. Lots and lots of Americans eat a lot of canned food. I certainly know a ton of midwesterners who do. ...
I'm pretty sure it's a shaped-by-history thing. For most of the 20th century, the U.S. food system was quite different from today's food system. It's a huge country, and unless you lived in certain areas, fresh food took a LONG time to get from farm to table, and so much less of it ever even showed up in your market.
Same with the -- Oh, so blaaand!
This is true for a lot of Swedes as well, especially the older generations, for many of the reasons you listed. Not so much with canned food perhaps but a lot of the other things you mention. My maternal grandparents were working class, born in the 1910s and lived most of their lives in a small village in the remote north. They used salt and white pepper in their cooking, and maaaybe a little allspice if they were feeling fancy. Judging by what my mum tells me, the vegetables available when she was growing up in the 50s were essentialy potatoes, carrots, rutabagas and canned peas because very few things grew that far up north. They did have an absolutely luxurious field of strawberries each summer but my aunt ate her very first tomato as a teenager in the 40s. Once, when I was visiting in the 90s, I wanted to make a lemon pie and I had to use one of those little squeeze bottles of canned lemon juice because fresh lemons were just not a thing.
And unless you lived in one of the larger cities, pizza and fake chinese food was about as exotic as things got foodwise up until maybe 20 years ago. I had my first piece of sushi in my early twenties and my first taste of kimchi only last year.
The thing is though, food culture has changed immensely in the past decade or two. In Sweden this is partly due to increased immigration and travel but in general, I think, it is because of the Internet. People have become far more aware of different cuisines and more eager to try them even when there's no prior history which IMO is why Jill's cooking efforts looks so clueless and sloppy. She is a young woman with access to all the Pinterest, Tumblr and blogs in the world (and she is aware of them because she's clearly trying to emulate them). Not to mention that she is far more well-travelled than most people thanks to TLC and so has been exposed to all sorts of different food. And yet we keep getting pictures of casseroles of gloop and gluey sauce with huge chunks of broccoli claiming to be soup. I don't think this is about her ancestry so much as it is about Jill.
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Poor Joy looks exhausted. I know dark circles can be genetic (I've got them in spades), but she's wearing makeup and they're still showing. I hope Austin is doing his fair share of night parenting and not just leaving it up to Joy.
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8 hours ago, madpsych78 said:
Also, in Protestant churches, anyone can take communion if they want.
In our former state church, which is Lutheran, you have to be confirmed in order to take the bread and wine, they explicitly say so; you can go up to the altar and get a blessing from the minister if you're not confirmed but you're not eligible for the actual communion. I don't know if this is a universal Lutheran thing or if it's somehow connected to the lack of separation of church and state in the past. The church was essentially a branch of government, and confirmation and communion were tools for social control. I can imagine it being quite different in the US!
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Ok, so with all this talk of communion wafers I got to ask. Do fundies take communion? As in the whole dispensing of bread and
winegrape juice ceremony? If so, who does the dispensing and where do they get the wafers? I always figured communion was a pretty universal Christian thing to do, but I have a really hard time imagining JB doing this in his home/warehouse church. Possibly because I just find the idea of him having any kind of authority, religious or not, to be ridiculous and I guess I connect communion with church authority and these fundie churches all seem so... I don't know... random? Who decides who is in charge and who can hand out communion? Can anyone do it? Like, "I'm the boss man now, here have a wafer." Or do they just not do it at all?And, as others have asked, what do communion wafers taste like? I spent quite a bit of time in various churches as a child but it didn't take, so as an unbaptised and unconfirmed heathen I'm technically not allowed to have one even if I wanted to.
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11 minutes ago, Heathen said:
Really, in a soup?
Perhaps it's due to a difference in food cultures, but adding cream to certain kinds of soups, especially fish and seafood ones is quite common. Blame it on the French. ;)
I actually use heavy cream quite a lot in my cooking but not as a base. More like I add a few table spoons to sauces and soups in order to round off the flavours. Works great in egg dishes as well.
I don't know if this fear or reluctance of using heavy cream dates back to the 80's when fat was declared the enemy but there's been a trend this past decade where using full-fat ingredients is becoming increasingly common again; people cut out sugar and other empty calories and spend their calories on natural fats instead. We actually had a shortage and subsequent price spike in cream and butter earlier this year because of this trend.
However, wild guesss is that Jill has no clue and is only showing us the diet of her childhood. Sodium-heavy cream of gloop appears to be a staple in Duggar cuisine.
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How old is Derrick now? Because from looking at the photo above, I'd say late 30's - early 40's. He could really use a good skin care regimen and a lot of sun screen but perhaps that would threaten his fragile masculinity.
And I have to admit that my first reaction looking at this photo was "why did he put drinking straws in his ears?" because I'm apparently not even a little bit tech savvy. Though why anyone would design ear pieces like that is beyond me, they make him look like the village idiot.
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57 minutes ago, DragonFaerie said:
Jason Isaacs
I forgot Jason Isaacs. Jason Isaacs makes evil disturbingly attractive. I'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to find Lucius Malfoy shag-worthy what with him being a nasty pureblood supremacist and all, but there Jason is, with his nose and his hair and his robes and the pimp cane and grraaargh. The man has enough charisma to make even unpleasant characters desirable.
Perhaps that is why Jeremy just won't hit the spot for me. There is no charisma there. At all. He's just... bland. Which is why I doubt his career as an evangelical preacher will go anywhere much no matter how many theological degrees he earns.
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52 minutes ago, Jynnan tonnix said:
I don't know that I even HAVE a "type".
I feel ya. My celebrity crushes and attractions veer all over the place. Over the years I've been attracted to everything from girly pretty like Brian Molko and Gerard Way to unconventionally attractive (or ugly, depending on who you ask) Tim Roth and Philip Glenister, as well as popular good-looking men like Viggo Mortensen and Johnny Depp. And of course, Jensen Ackles is freakishly gorgeous. These days I seem to favour guys with big, beautiful eyes like Cillian Murphy and Rufus Sewell. And don't even get me started on the girls...
And yet... Jeremy Vuolo manages to miss all the marks on my attraction meter. He's just one big ball of nope.
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34 minutes ago, queenanne said:
people crunching ice
But it is so satisfying.
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Jaysus the lad looks knackered.
You can tell the boys are happy with him though.
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I'm on the Not Attractive team. Jeremy isn't even remotely good looking to me; I'd say he's borderline fugly. If it wasn't for his dark colouring he'd essentially be a wonky-toothed potato.
Then again I'm someone who never understood the adoration of someone like Brad Pitt either; to me the guy has always looked like a chipmunk on steroids, so perhaps I've just got a weird taste in men.
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The way Jim Bob keeps staring at Michelle while she's talking about the kids, with that stiff constipated look of potential disapproval on his face, is so very very creepy. It looks like he's monitoring her. I don't know if he's mellowed out during the years or just learned to hide his control issues behind a mask of joviality when the cameras are rolling, but you can really tell what a control freak he is by looking at his body language in the early episodes.
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31 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:
This is literally a heart attack waiting to happen. And the fact that she claims to know how unhealthy it is, is the saddest part of all.
To be fair, so is pizza and I still eat pizza every once in awhile because pizza. As long as unhealthy dishes like these are not the norm in the Dullard household, as it appeared to be in the TTH, I'll give Jill a pass. Looking at her past attempts, it's like she's aware of healthy cooking and wants/tries to do it but she just isn't very good at it. Which, being brought up by Mechelle is pretty much a given.
There doesn't seem to be a tradition of actual cooking with the Duggars nor does it seem like they view food as something to be enjoyed; everything is just about heating, de-frosting, opening cans or bags and so on and then scarfing it down without much thought or enjoyment. Didn't Jessa say something about this regarding Bin; he eats slowly in order to being able to taste and savour the food, while Jessa just hoovers hers.
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Tater tots are somewhat like croquettes right? Crispy on the outside and soft on the inside? But wouldn't drowning them in several cans of soup make them kind of soggy? Or do they keep their crisp despite the soup? I've been tempted for years to try this concoction using croquettes (I don't think we've got any tater tots) just to see what all the fuss is about but the idea of a pan full of soggy potato balls sounds a bit off putting. Has anyone tried it?
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Josiah and Lauren: He Has To Marry Somebody
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So, regular Bachelor/Hen parties usually take place fairly close to the wedding. Does this "shower" mean that they are tying the knot this week?