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My dad and I LOVED 'Prime Suspect'.

I hated just about everything in this episode. I love Lauren Ambrose but she got on my last nerve from the get-go. Agent Miller just seemed like a dumb little puppy, and I don't get why everyone thinks he is so "hot". I hated the whole Mulder tripping, it was as if DD had asked for some reason to show him doing Pulp Fiction and a reason for him to take his shirt off. I hated the stereotype of Texas and Texans, like the girls walking across the street. No. Way. That. Happens. Ever. Anywhere. However, I must admit that I was in a Starbuck's on Saturday in Dallas, no less, where we are very urban and unlike our neighbor to the west- Fort Worth, where you do see white men in boots and cowboy hats all the time- and a Starbuck's Cowboy walked in with boots and jeans WITH CHAPS SEWED INTO HIS JEANS! and a cowboy hat. Most boots and cowboy hat wearers in Dallas are not white people... And NO ONE wears chaps in Dallas. And no one in Texas wears chaps sewn into their jeans... That said, I grew up in Garland and I fled from there the moment I got a chance. It can be quite truly a racist little town. But I also noted that none of this was filmed anywhere near Texas, just like in 'Fight The Future' where "North Texas" had mountains off in the distance. That kinda sloppy direction irritates me. Then I watched James Franco's newest thing on Hulu, where it was at least filmed here, and I had a few gripes about that one too..... I loved the last two minutes with Scully and Mulder walking hand-in-hand. Hated that Lumineers song though. Mulder hearing the trumpets of the Apocalypse fits well, I thought. Leads us to what's in store next week, and probably a nice, fitting allegory on the state of affairs here in The US- Justice Scalia dying and the GOP wanting to block a possible new SCOTUS appointment... Taylor Swift winning another Grammy..... Donald Trump.... yea, the end times are nigh....

I am very much along the same lines as you. I am from Dallas so we got to see them filming. My complaints are about how they didn't do the signage right (you can still see the yellow "walk/don't walk" boxes on the poles, which weren't there in 1960...) And yes, the County Admin offices are there, as is the Sixth Floor Museum. I visited my county commissioner a couple months ago and had to direct some tourists to the museum entrance. We in Dallas have been striving so hard for 50 years to shed our image as "The City of Hate" and we have been trying to attain "world class" status since then. It's sad, really, and a few years ago when they did the Big 50th, it was a silly invite-only scheme and they closed down Dealey Plaza to do it. Very much Dallas. Very insecure. Then a few weeks later they were filming for the new movie 'LBJ' and they brought in signage to replicate what was there in 1963. My grandfather was a Dallas cop and my mother witnessed the assassination, so I, too, am obsessed with this, as are most Dallas natives. But back to this episode- I have never read the book and I like most things Stephen King. I love the whole idea of history does not like intrusions. I do not entertain the fantasy that the Vietnam war would have been avoided if JFK hadn't been killed, but it is certainly fun to speculate on these ideas. I am mostly "meh" about James Franco, but I think he was fine in this. I look forward to more, and I hope that previously will write more recaps on it.

Apologies. Did not mean to be rude and/or insulting. I'm commenting on the broad idea on this particular forum about how horrible and hated the whole "William" storyline is. I don't think it's a bad thing. The tone that I have read from people who seem very genuinely knowledgeable in the past four or five pages have left me wondering how any of these people can call themselves true fans, when they are constantly complaining about it. It's part of the canon. There wasn't any sex or pressure for M&S to be sexual partners, regardless of whatever offscreen fan-based dialogue might have been then. I'm not here to fangirl, I'm here to listen to other genuine critiques of this (and other) episodes in this little mini-series. MOST of what I have read has been very grating, and very ugly about CC's writing skills. And, I won't apologize for this, but I care more about what the writers and creators of this show have to say than about the commenters here. I'm just trying to defend what I view as a true continuation of the series on the whole, than what I see as fans complaining about how much they hated season 8 and the direction that these six episodes are going in. Is all.

'Unfortunately, there was both. The offscreen sex was fine (in retrospect ;). However, the stupid "Who's the daddy"-angle once Mulder was back from the dead was tedious and unnecessary. I remember the heated discussions on the board about the ifs and whens of possible offscreen conversations between Mulder and Scully about Mulder's potential fatherhood as if it had been yesterday." Why should I- or anyone else, for that matter- care one whit about whatever heated discussions on this (or the TWOP board or whatever else fan board) were had about this NOW? And especially "possible offscreen conversations"? This devolves into just stupid, I'm sorry, but just stupid. Nobody cares! This is a show. On broadcast television, and one that did the impossible thing of defining a generation... I and millions of others love this show for what it is, warts and all. I WISH the X-Files would do a show ala "Portlandia" where they go into the what-if and all about how social media has changed everything and all. Social media nowadays IS THEY KEY TO EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!

Thank you. Those points are well articulated. I also want to pause for a moment to remind everyone what other shows were on teevee back in the early-mid 90's...... The X-Files also happened to be a show about the male and female leads respecting each other without the tension of having to also sleep with one another. And, William was conceived in that prototypical X-Files weirdness, also without S-E-X and subsequent tension. It's one of the things that makes this show special and one of the reasons I get so irritated with commenters hating that whole William story arc.

I'm not understanding why all the William-hating on this forum. If you didn't like that part of the X-Files canon back then (and stopped watching and starting writing fanfic instead), then why are you watching now? It's part of the mythology, like it or not. And a big part of the reason we never saw any hand-wringing from either Scully or Mulder back then, is because they weren't even ON the show (well, much, even, for GA) after that! So we have been left with this incomplete decade of their lives, doing god-only-knows-what (Mulder living like the Unibomber and Scully not knowing how to contact him?) What are they SUPPOSED to talk about with one another? "Hey, about that time we went to the North Pole and I rescued you from that alien ship that you never saw? Yeah, that was fun. Let's get waffles..." Really? Of COURSE they are going to stress about their son that (they) Scully gave up! I also want to know what that kid's been doing all these years. IIRC, he had some crazy wild abilities even as an infant. Did his adoptive parents assume that he's "on the spectrum" with a gluten intolerance because of all the government funded chemicals and GMO's that they are putting into the food supply, and decide not to vaccinate him and put him into an alternative school? These are also things that weren't "things" 14 years ago. And these things could very cleverly be folded into the whole government-conspiracy-alien-technology-DNA mythology of the whole show, giving it some arc for an entertaining reboot. (I would be VERY HAPPY to see more Lauren Ambrose in just about anything, but especially this!!) That said, there are some mysteries from the original show that could be revisited. Some have been explained to some extent at this point in time. Te X-Files did something that no other television series ever did, and that has been to lead an entire generation (and then some) to question a lot of things, like is the government really doing secret shady things like watching our every move, or experimenting with the weather or DNA, or putting things into our vaccinations/water/food supply? Batcrap crazy or not, this is entertainment that crossed a line into reality, which I think was handled brilliantly in the first episode of this reboot (does anyone on this forum ever listen to talk radio?) Finally, I don't want to see M&S kiss, and get married, and have twin daughters named Samantha and Melissa and live happily ever after and forget all about whatever parts we don't like. Screw that! Conflict is what drama is and what makes it good. Watching these two try to find closure and remains of their humanity in the choices they have made in spite (or because of) all the things that they have seen, makes this reboot worth it. That's my $0.02 anyway...

Sorry, I should have clarified a little better. I'm aiming at the people who come into a forum to talk about one episode of a show that's been off the air for nearly 15 years, and they ADMIT that they never watched it and then complain about how they didn't get it? Why come in here and comments at all?

Yeah I already said that: "Darin Morgan eps are always about the human condition. I believe that the transgender repartee herein was spot-on. The whole episode was about being something that you're not. As Rhys Darby's "were-man" character discovered, waking up one day to discover that you are not who you are *supposed* to be, and to want so badly to be what you are "supposed" to be, at all costs." I don't think it was ironic in the least, it was very much on-the-nose. In fact, it was sort of the whole point. As someone else mentioned upthread, the person in the mirror, etc.... It's why this show's writers are so brilliant.

I'm sorry, but I just can't with the comments from people who reveal that they never saw the series, or who cannot understand the relationships/mythologies/MOTW/canny stuff, etc., etc.... or that they only ever watched a few episodes. This show DEFINED AN ENTIRE GENERATION!!!!!!! You don't have to be an "X-Phile" to understand, but you kinda hafta be a fan to at least "get" some of the more subtle- and not so subtle- references and nods. Also, Mulder and Scully have never had any sense of happiness.

RE: the transgender comment complaints. Darin Morgan eps are always about the human condition. I believe that the transgender repartee herein was spot-on. The whole episode was about being something that you're not. As Rhys Darby's "were-man" character discovered, waking up one day to discover that you are not who you are *supposed* to be, and to want so badly to be what you are "supposed" to be, at all costs. C'mon guys, give the writers *some* credit- they are smart and funny and revered for a reason. "Also...token lesbian here" What makes you think you're a token lesbian? *I don't know how to capture comments and respond, sorry*

"I'm counting Guy's baffled declaration that the tie was "just waiting to strangle you" as another reference to "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose." And don't forget in 'Humbug', didn't Jim Rose make a similar comment?

"The visual gore/creep factor has increased dramatically." F. Emasculata. Those heaving and exploding pus-filled boils on those escaped prisoners faces were disgusting!

Excellent episode. Good for some closure. M&S were both introspective. It worked very well, IMO.

Also, I haven't seen anyone mention that both William B. Davis and Nicholas Lea were in Continuum...

"I believe he smoked through his tracheotomy tube in the final regular episode. I just rewatched season 9. But then, he also blew up..." THANK YOU! I spent the summer watching the entire series again from start to finish AND the movies. CSM definitely was smoking through a trache tube. AND MULDER SOT HIM WITH AN RPG! HOW DOES HE SURVIVE THAT?!?!?

I can relate to Meg's becoming a monster. I lost my mother last year after she spent eight months in the hospital. She was 60. I was there at the hospital day-in-day-out AND I took care of her business AND I took care of cleaning her house in the hopes that someday she might come home, while my sister was too busy or had more important things to do, like go party with her boyfriend. She wouldn't even commit to one night a week, and I didn't like my mother being alone at the hospital at night. And after the doctors told me and my younger sister that we should consider withdrawing care, because she was never going to breathe on her own, or speak, or walk, or anything else, my selfish sister- who has always been the pretty one, always gets attention, always did things that got ME in trouble, and has always been very spoiled- decided that it wasn't fair, and that she wanted to fight and that she knew deep down that our mother wanted to live, and considered shipping her off to a long term care facility in Brownsville (y'all that's like eight ours away), the only place in Texas that would take her. When I asked me sister, "are you going to quit your job and move down there? Because she'll die of a broken heart!" Her response was an incredulous, "You just want to KILL HER!!" Still, she continued to visit and help me exactly the same amount while carrying on this cruel treatment of our mother. My mother had no money and no will. She had a house. And it was falling apart. After her needlessly long and drawn-out death, I continued working on the house, making small repairs, throwing garbage away (my mother was a hoarder), and there was a lot of things that were utterly useless or had sentimental value only to my mother. I started in on one of the sheds, and lo and behold, I found all my sister's junk from high school. I SHOULD have thrown that crap away but I didn't (She's a grown woman with her her own house; why is she storing junk in her mommy's shed anyway?) and I sold my mother's van because it was in the way AND it was inoperable. My sister found out and threw a fit, and she had the locks changed on the house. The, she stages a scene out on the curb with the rest of the junk: she took items from inside the house- photo albums, my mother's paintings, things that I and my family would have wanted- and tossed them on the curb too, and then she called my family and "told" on me, so they were all witnesses to what she claimed I had done. (and it wasn't the first time she has staged a scene in support of a lie.) I know it seems kinda trivial, but she stooped to a new low, and made me out to be some heartless monster in the eyes of my family, and for what reason? Because she feels guilty about the way she treated our mother when she was sick before the hospital, when she was in the hospital, and probably for drawing out her inevitable death for so long. She is a manipulator and a brat to begin with, but our mother's death is something that has completely changed her. It's been 18 months and she still has the picture of our mother's coffin as her facebook picture, if a coffin as your fb pic isn't weird enough in the first place. She lives in my neighborhood and we have mutual friends, and now she's been re-inventing history, talking about how much time she spent at the hospital while I was out getting drunk on the streets or some damn thing. What's crazy, is that they seem to believe her, even though there's is a timeline on facebook of ME being there posting updates every damn day! So, people are easy to manipulate because they have short memories and like to avoid confrontation. So yeah, I guess I can "get" Meg becoming a monster, I watched my sister become one. And it was borne out of guilt, well, that and a little sociopathy to begin with.

"Why is Patti speaking like a hick? She didn't used to talk like that." Cuz that's what them thar Hollywoord types thinks uf us Texans... that we as all hicks and *snort* sheeat!

I suppose I'm in the minority here, but I LOVE Patti and I am glad she's here in this season. And what "Pallas" stated earlier is spot on. Kevin needs to start listening to her and stop fighting her, but I think he is afraid that by doing so, he risks ending up like his dad. After all, he saw very clearly that his dad was talking to apparitions that weren't there. And something else I'm wondering: What about that National Geographic magazine article that Garvey senior went on about?

Also, @ quangtran- those are excellent points. I thought that there had to be a good reason for the Pleistocene woman (that's I'm calling her), so I was okay with going along for the ride (at this point I think it will be something about the water... earthquakes... aliens... etc...) It was done well. As far as the weirdness, like the wedding dress lady, and the goat slayer, and even "Gabby" (frontier gibberish lookout guy), I got eerie David Lynch vibes......

My first thought when Isaac told John Murphy "something bad is going to happen", was OF COURSE SOMETHING BAD IS GOING TO HAPPEN! THE GARVEY'S ARE A'COMING TO TOWN!!! I, too, wondered what I was watching at first and had to click the info button on my remote. I'm not crazy about the intro music, but I do like the images of the outlines of people no longer there in the photos. My gripe(s): Why the weirdness with John Murphy? He's the Fire Chief. In a small town that gets bombarded daily with these crazy tourists, why not lead with that? "Hi new neighbor, I'm John Murphy, I'm the Fire Chief", instead of this weird game and cryptic prison story? And why not the same with Nora? She kinda sorta got around to saying that she "has a brother who moved here a couple months ago", after basically being lightly sautd with why they were there and if they had any family. I guess I could do without the Garvey's at all and let their timeline have ended when it did, THEN we come to Lockhart, I mean Garden, I mean Jordan, I mean Jarden, Texas, and maybe next season we might tie-into the Garvey's. Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but I couldn't help asking myself: Why now, why them? Why is some two-bit cope from some suburb a thousand miles away from the proverbial "promised land" buying a house in what should arguably be THE MOST expensive real estate in the US at this point? Hey y'all... were you impressed with our beautiful historic Lockhart, Texas courthouse. It's about two hours west of Austin. But, whatever. Lots of the one-site locations look like Texas Hill Country. I could make out scrub oak, burr oak and mesquite trees, plants far, far away from New York and most of the rest of the US. Also, Texas Film Commission tag at the credits. We do have a famous Sate Park between DFW and the Hill Country, called Dinosaur Valley in Glen Rose, and there's a whole bunch of dinosaur fossils there. After the "indigenous woman" sequence and then with the girls swimming in the waters there, I thought it might have been filmed near around there. Also, BTW- it wasn't a vulture circling, it was a hawk (maybe an eagle' Hollywood seems to use their calls and images interchangeably...), note that it was not a vulture feather around her neck. And there have been recent earthquakes in North Central Texas, and yes, because of fraking. In fact, Denton was the first town to vote fraking down in their town.

Nevermid, I didn't mean to walk across your sanbox. Thanks anyway.

I think this is over-thinking it. His label has been heavily promoting in Latin America. So, good job marketing team! (Like when Victoria beer was introduced to America, it was test-marketed in Chicago of all places. Because if it succeeded there- it did- it would succeed anywhere in the UA of A) I used this as an example of many times when the music (and even sometimes the teevee choices, like when Taystee has charge of the remote and all she wanted to watch was the Discovery Channel) just seemed incongruious with the characters. That's why I said it was like JK's way of inserting *her* own personal favorite music into the show. When I was in the county lockup lo those many years ago, IF we ever got music- and we did on occassion- it was a HUGE fight (and that was in Georgia, so there was a lot or hip-hop/country fights going down to near riots, then they took away the boombox.) And c'mon, these girls are too dumb to know that they have a "whole other hole", I doubt they're waxing philosophic about the stylings of Morrisey..... Oh yeah, we do have a classic rock station and they play the same 10 bands from the late 70s over and over and over and over.....

Just finished watching the season. I love stalking the forums and getting everyone's perspective, so thank y'all! Like others, I agree that the Daya/Bennett storyline is boring and dumb. Maybe it's the pregnancy and emotional swings, but every single episode- and sometimes even in an episode- her moods toward him seemed to swing dramatically and it got realllllllly tiresome for me. I just don't see how he could be that dumb and manipulated by her and her mother and all the other cholas. I'm ready for bennett to get transferred. Also, I agree that Vee did take up a lot of time this season, but c'mon, this is only Season 2 and there are so many stories to tell and only 13 hours in which to tell them all. And, it was explained in I think ep 12, that before Vee, things went along relativeley well, but after Vee, the whole prison was thrown into complete chaos. I think that was the point of the plot/character: to put everyone on edge and we see how far they get stretched/ban together. I love the series. I love the writing. I love the characters. I love the conflicts because they do seem realistic (and although I have never been to prison, I have in the past been a guest of a local county for a period of time, and yes, these women's portayals of inmate life in min security are perrty accurate). Very solid show. BUT: here is my big gripe and I don't know where to put it, or if it deserves its own topic thread, so Im just putting it out here. The music. I mean, I love the music and music is an unseen character of any good show, but what I'm talking about is the music that the girls all "like". Sorry, but that chola asking Bennett for an ipod with a Smith's mix would *never* happen IRL. NEVER. (I'm from a very large Texas metro where there is one alt rock radio station, four country stations, three rap/hip-hop stations and 16 Latino stations...) And, Soso leading the goup in a Lisa Loeb sing-a-long? WTF??? JK is showing her age and her own personal musical preferences with these kinds of choices, and it is annoying to me because while *most* everything else is realistic and believable character-wise, their musical choices would not be this. Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that the inmates choice of music doesn't really line up with reality?