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Really, Ray? You're being hunted by (presumably) Black Mountain military guys AND you want to send an email with an attachment, so your grand escape plan is to drive out to the most isolated area you can find on short notice? Couldn't you have driven to a nearby mall and hid in the food court bathroom? At least there'd be wifi. Ok, I get that Ray was destined to die at the end, as Lynch-ian Dream Dad revealed in an earlier episode, but the way it went down was just...dumb. I kept thinking over and over, surely there is a smarter way out of this than to drive to a forest and pray to make it out alive, Lone Survivor-style. You see, 2 days later, this is what has stayed with me. Really wanted him to live and win at something, after he spent the entire season being The Biggest Loser. Kind of like how it was refreshing to see Rust a little optimistic at the very end, after hours of his nihilistic blah-blah-blah. Instead he's quickly hunted and killed, the bad guys win, AND his freakin' file doesn't even send. Because he is the Biggest. Loser. Ever. We get it, show. Geez. That being said, CF's more talented than I remember.

This reminds me of something I was thinking earlier....the ASZ folks are like our CDB crew was the 1st season, really. Soft, civilzed folks, ex-suburbanites maybe, not used to getting their hands too terribly dirty, certainly not used to having to be heroes and save each other's lives on almost a daily basis, like our intrepid CDB crew. This first occurred to me when Aiden had strung up a walker because it killed one of his crew. How long has it been since anyone on any episode has taken a walker's attack on a live person so, for lack of a better word, personally? That perception of walkers seems so 4 seasons ago. As a side note, I'd like to say I'm pretty impressed with Glenn, overall. I didn't think much of his character in the beginning, his role seemed more of an errand boy ("go get me a pregnancy test! dangle at the end of this rope and fish this bloated rotting walker out of this well!") than anything else, but I think the writers have done his character right and his growth into a semi-badass has seemed natural.

randomness: - so when one of the wall-building dudes said, "i'm going to send a fax to cleveland," i was like WHAT?!?! they have a working fax machine? and someone in cleveland does too? and they're communicating?!?!? major plot point? haha i'd obviously never heard this colorful euphemism for droppin' the kids off at the pool. - anyone wonder why sam insists on hanging around carol who threatened his life rather psychotically in the last episode? is he so afraid of his dad that hanging out with batshit carol seems safer somehow? wouldn't ANYWHERE be safer than either of those two? or is he just a dumb kid who wants to follow around the cookie lady at any cost? OR maybe he's actually smart and realizes he has a piece of info to blackmail carol with and use that to get cookies and protection and maybe his own gun? so he's either really smart or really dumb. - the ASZhats have been living together for a long time, and it's a pretty small community. does anyone think that maybe everyone knows that pete beats his wife and kid, but they're all putting up with it because he's the only doc in town? they are all cowards, after all. i think someone might've mentioned this earlier. or worse, maybe jessie is "taking it for the team" to keep him happy because he's the only doc in town. ugh. - which brings me to my next point....i love that the the ASZhats big evil secret (so far) has been that they're all too cowardly to live. their code of honor seems to be, when the shit hits the fan, every man for himself! nice. sheesh. no wonder deanna sought the badassery of CDB. if she's thinking long term, she has to know her cush little community wasn't going to make it with these stay puft marshmallow men/women.

I think you're right, that she's attractive and doesn't know anything about the things he's had to do "on the road," but also, as far as he knows she's not just clean on the outside, but clean on the inside too. As far as he knows, she HASN'T had to do horrible things to survive, she's kept her slate clean, morally fresh and untouched, like pre ZA. I can see that also being very attractive to someone like Rick, who's been through so much, done and seen so much.

on the show, yeah, cute blondes abound, but i meant in the general ZA population, i'd bet that pretty blonde women in general are pretty rare. People make a big deal out of hot blondes now because there's not tons of them; statistically speaking, with a large part of the population eaten or zombified, they'd be even more rare. i'm assuming.

To be fair, I think Shane shot Otis to save his own life, yes, but also to get meds to Carl, who was in a coma at the time with a gunshot wound. I don't think Otis was going to be able to do it. Tough call. I think you're right though, I think Shane was naturally brutal and ruthless, but it was kept in check by civilized society. I don't think it was ever in Rick's nature to be that way, but came about by way of extraordinary circumstances. The net at this point is *similar*, but I certainly don't see Rick attempting to kill his best friend (Daryl, I guess?) or attempting to rape Jessie.

I can't tell if AL is really hot or the ZA has just drastically lowered my standards. Also, I don't think he's particularly good looking, but seriously, I can't wait till Daryl takes a bath and brushes his teeth and gets a haircut. I will jump up and clap like a seal. I need to see this, please Santa, I've been so good! (I'm talkin' to you, season finale...)

HAHA that one flew right over my head the first time! We're 5 seasons in and I'm just now getting used to Maggie and Glenn because I don't think I have a choice here. TWD and romance...ugh: - What is wrong with this show that it cannot come up with any natural-appearing romantic entanglements? Ok except Andrea and Shane and the carsex in season 2 (?); that seemed natural, was hot but brief. I've never ever watched a show where the romance was handled so awkwardly. - None of the characters have any chemistry, not even Maggie and Glenn (sorry, they still make me cringe when they make out). So the show has to swing wildly in the opposite direction and spoon-feed us a cute blonde (who, I imagine, in the ZA, is like finding a damn unicorn) for Rick to get showered and shirtless for. Also? no wonder Pete is all, "that's my unicorn who cut your hair." I guess in the context of the ZA, I'd be a little possessive too. Slim pickings out there. - Changing subject here, but anyone notice how similar Rick season 5 is becoming to Shane season 2? Shane was always about protecting the family at all costs. His methods were sometimes brutal, but I think his intentions were usually good (until his almost-rape of Lori and almost-murder of Rick). Now look who seems to be willing to go to extremes to protect the family. Ooh and look who's also coveting someone else's cute wife. Is Rick the new Shane? Ironic. I think Shane was better built for the ZA world, was too brutal for the softly lit Pottery Farm, but perfect for these later seasons.

I think the show has made it pretty clear that at least some of the crew is nostalgic for their life on the road. Like someone mentioned before, similar to the soldier who can't come back from war. I found that last scene with Rick leaning up against the wall weirdly....romantic? Not sure that's the word I want to use. Anyone remember that movie with Demi Moore and Woody Harrelson, Indecent Proposal? At the end I think they hold hands over a wall that's separating the two. It reminded me of that. Rick would've held that walker's hand if he could've. And then stabbed him in the head with the quickness.

Uh yeah...i think i meant aiden. Deanna's snotty son. And is Tobin that big dude's name? I might just be making stuff up at this point. Too many new characters =)

Excellent points. My thoughts: - Guns are a big deal in Texas (where I'm from), and can add up to be an expensive hobby (bigger and badder GUNS GUNS GUNS, giant gun lockers, competitions, hunting trips, practice etc), so sure, I'll buy that at least some of that is from the neighborhood itself. Maybe they ransacked the homes of people that got evacuated by the military; I imagine those folks would've been forced to leave their weaponry behind. - I do find it interesting that they seem to have this giant store of weaponry, but, if Spencer is any indication, seem to suck "out in the field." Maybe he's not one of ASZ's finest, but if not, then why is he going out on dangerous supply runs and risking the lives of other people? Perhaps they obtained their weaponry hostile-y taking over other groups, but again, they all seem kinda soft so how could they have overpowered anyone? (Ok maybe Tobin doesn't suck, or whatever his name is Mr. "I'll show you my big gun, lil' lady" who was talking to Carol in their weapons storage) - I also don't understand why they have this huge store of weaponry, but Deanna doesn't want anyone to carry and doesn't care to have much of a lookout for intruders. Maybe she was initially more interested in protecting their community against walkers/intruders, then eased up when no one seemed to want to intrude? OR... - Maybe she was interested in CDB because she has this huge store of guns and no one in ASZ knows what to do with them (except maybe the big dude in the weapons room). - Or maybe the're all faking it and they're all secretly bad ass? They all seem so fake. Def hiding something. Or maybe I'm cynical now and I've just been on the road too long.

ooh i love this! another psychotic child, not just murderous on a small scale "imma kill my sister" kinda way, but in a "i hate you cookie-baking assholes, i hate cardigans, you're all gonna buuuurrn!" she IS pretty creepy. also, where are her parents? i don't recall seeing them or mention of them.

i almost hate to say this, because I usually just watch the show and take it for what it is, enjoy it and not try to draw any preachy or particularly philosophical conclusions that aren't spoon fed to me (eg Rick: "WE ARE THE WALKING DEAD!" really? thx for that, rick) but the contrast between the alexandria folks' world/life view v. rick's crew's world/life view kinda reminded me of how some (a lot?) of people live here in the good ol' US of A and how it must seem to others in war-torn or impoverished countries like (*insert your fave here*). i don't mean to say that the writers were intentionally creating a metaphor here, but when you think about it in those terms, Sasha screaming, "Is that what you worry about here??!!" seems comically appropriate. My internet is too slow =( the line for the new iphone is too long =( 1st world problems, anyone? ....except no one seems to be complaining in ASZ. i guess that's some of the "bad stuff" that's supposed to have fallen away after the ZA? hmm...

Someone might've addressed these questions already but sorry, just can't go through 14 pages of forum =) where's our fallen and painfully useless priest? certainly alexandria could use a religious figure? does anyone else find it weird that aaron and eric just spied on the crew (for days/week/months???) without being eaten or discovered? i mean spied with audio equipment too? that easy, huh? ok. i love carol like i love walter white. maybe her descent has been a bit clunkier, but i'll take it. however, unlike my love for carol and her crazy, i am not quite believing rick even for a moment being a teeny tiny bit tempted to kill pete to get to jessie. he's damaged goods for sure, but it just makes no sense.

ugh what is wrong with this show and black men? there isn't room for 2 black men in the show? maybe noah better take a cue from glen and hook up with a white girl if he wants to be around longer than a season or 2. gah. this just bothers me so much.