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So the chatter at the wedding made it seem like Drew is no longer living, right?
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22 minutes ago, bilgistic said:
I would've loved a "front-desk job" when I was in college instead of having people throw broken electronics at my head at the exchange and returns desk at Best Buy for $6.75 an hour. (I'm old.)
Even older, my minimum wage college job paid far less! Also isn't Stephen supposed to be so charismatic? Surely he could charm the country club members!
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12 minutes ago, mandymax said:
I took it as a "Look - no wedding ring yet! I can still do what I want!" sign to Lucy. Like, "You still have a chance with me! Don't you still want me?"
Oh, I thought we were meant to see the knuckle tattoos -- did he already have those in 2007?
I thought the same thing about the no-ring too, but then the tattoos stood out, plus he immediately dangled a fiancee.
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This episode was quite the placeholder. We pretty much knew exactly how it would play out at the moment of the inciting incident. Seriously every beat of it -- we knew Bronwyn would sing something sexy and look and sound really hot and confident while doing it, we knew somehow Kris would soften, we knew Janae would have their gender ambiguity affirmed, etc. And we definitely knew something would miraculously keep them from turning themselves in, and that something would be extremely unconvincing.
Also, great idea to cover yourself in glitter and get drunk immediately before turning yourself in to the police! I'm sure that would go great!
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Correct me if my memory is off, but in the first episode we heard Lucy say it had been FOUR years since the whole thing with Stephen came to an end, but the wedding is eight years after this season. So even after this finale, the Lucy/Stephen back-and-forth continues for another three years? Good God.
Seems like Stephen is just as much of a snob as he accuses more monied people of being. He's so far above a front desk job! But it's only because everyone else is so classist!
In a way Stephen being engaged to Lydia feels like a heavy-handed mitigating factor that kind of lets Lucy off the hook for banging her good friend's boyfriend (i.e., "look, all of these people are the worst, Lucy's hardly any more awful than almost everyone around her!"). What was up with the XO tattoo on Stephen's fingers that he went way out of his way to display to Lucy at the wedding?
I think the most frustrating thing for me is that even in a serialized drama, you want some major arc to fully conclude at the end of a season while obviously leaving some new threads for the next. But we didn't get any kind of ending, this could've just as easily been a mid-season episode. I guess in their minds revealing to us what really happened the night Macy died was an arc conclusion, but it's retroactive and not one single character found out, so the actual story we were watching play out didn't really do much?
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On 10/24/2022 at 10:27 PM, One4Sorrow2TooBad said:
Enjoyed the second episode much more than the first. Anyone else notice the video looks like it's shot at a faster rate(60fps)? looks more soap opera like?
Yes. I tried to adjust the motion smoothing to no avail. But not every scene is like that? It's odd.
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17 minutes ago, Nellise said:
The letter didn't have the impact I think the writers wanted. We got to see Soshana cry for longer than she'd been shown in the whole series previously. She was supposedly very close with Alan and we saw nothing about her while we wasted a bunch of time on Ezra.
This was definitely not a show interested in the perspectives of its female characters. Which could be fine, it wasn't about them, but at the same time you can't hang your ending so heavily on Shoshana and Candace if the work on them hasn't been done.
Edited to add: Dani's post that went up right above mine while I was still posting describes this far better, so... What she said!
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Yeah, that just felt anticlimactic. All that, just so he could send a nice letter to his adult children? And it's not very meaningful that Sam has shackled himself when obviously his mother is totally willing to free him at any time. Oh well! Some good episodes and a hell of a gripping start. Obviously not a happy ending kind of series, but still just kind of... there.
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Cracked me up that those two were literally going to get it on in the motel room they'd broken into and were supposed to be casing. Geniuses!
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Fin's line about crime going up and the sound of gunshots now being the city's soundscape or whatever it was? Jesus. I know the writers room isn't in NYC, but production is so it seems like they'd know how laughably inaccurate that is! I know the tourism board has probably been pissed at SVU for decades, but wow, talk about jumping on the media propoganda bandwagon and perpetuating nonsense. And what, two episodes after some nice tourists get raped and murdered on the subway?
I agree with everyone who was dumbfounded by the unnecessary "twist" of burying the truth of who shot the guy, a situation that absolutely was an easy case of completely justifiable homicide and would have been critical for that girl's mental health to be clarified so that she could get psych treatment for the trauma.
On 10/15/2022 at 10:23 PM, Pearson80 said:Why does Mariska have the writers over a barrel? Why can't they just write the show as they see fit. Mariska has power but she is not all powerful given that she could not get the higher ups to not fire a certain actor..
Ooo, what did I miss, who did she want fired?
ETA: Nevermind on that last question, I didn't see the double negative ("she could not get the higher ups to not fire...," whereas I thought it said she couldn't get the higher ups to fire someone)!
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The recap of last season they aired at the beginning didn't even scratch the surface. I can honestly barely remember anything from the first season. What was the deal with Maeve? I can't even remember what her whole involvement was or what the problem is now.
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11 minutes ago, krankydoodle said:
That Michael is Silvie's father but neither one knows it.
Wow, literally just finished it, rewatched the end, and still didn't catch that. Oops! Guess my attention span ain't what it used to be.
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My reaction journey watching that first episode was almost identical to everything said in this discussion, so I have little to add! Buuuut...
On 10/16/2022 at 10:57 PM, janeta said:The addressing the camera thing is not working for me.
And damn but I'm tired of tv characters' irrelevant teenagers.
100% on both. I'm going to wait on the direct address and give it a chance. It took me a while to really see/believe(!) that this character was fun, so I think now that I really get that lovely surprise, I might be able to adjust to the direct address. As for the teenager, I pray that her disgruntledness was just a premiere-episode arc and the rest will be more like the playful banter she and her mother had at the end of the episode moving forward.
On 10/17/2022 at 12:53 PM, krankydoodle said:I didn't like the reveal at the end of the last episode and am not looking forward to seeing how that whole situation plays out.
Wait, what was the reveal at the end of the episode? I don't remember one.
I didn't read up at all on what to expect so imagine my surprise that they just went ahead and solved the crimes instead of it being a season-long mystery! That was surprising.
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On 10/20/2022 at 3:01 PM, Armchair Critic said:
I know some of the dialogue is fictionalized but when B's son said to his mother "turn that frown upside down" it was scary.
Quite deliberately so, too. I wasn't sure quite what they were trying to say in that moment, and then I got to wondering if something happened with that son that I'd forgotten from the doc or that wasn't in there, and this is foreshadowing -- but luckily if it was in the doc I forgot, so I'm following discussion rules! Just saying that I wonder if it's portentous.
On 10/20/2022 at 8:39 PM, SnazzyDaisy said:I wonder why Bob and Mary Ann didn’t send Jan to a therapist after she refused to talk to them about B. They knew she’s brainwashed to a certain extent.
My guess is that the answer is two-fold: (1) Mormons and (2) the 70s.
On 10/21/2022 at 1:03 PM, jmonique said:Also, I haven't seen Anna Paquin in a lot, but since she has an Oscar, I'm assuming she has modes other than "constipated face"?
I have seen her in a lot, and I'm afraid the answer is "not really!" She's very pretty and can be a kick in comedies. That's all I got. (In my opinion the Oscar wasn't really warranted, but they built a beautiful film around a kid and made that kid look good by that and rewarded the kid. It wasn't really a sign of magnificent talent in bloom.)
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On 10/13/2022 at 5:24 PM, peachmangosteen said:
It is getting increasingly hard to feel any empathy for Mary Ann. I also don't really like the way Anna Paquin is playing her but I don't know anything about the real woman so maybe she's being like her.
I really liked the original Jan actress. So far, McKenna Grace isn't really as good but hopefully she gets better.
I can't believe there's 9 episodes of this. How much more can happen to justify that?
SO MUCH, that's the crazy part!
On 10/14/2022 at 12:26 PM, SnazzyDaisy said:The transition between 2 Jans felt disjointed. The kidnappi ngs were only two years apart. There is no need for recasting to age-up Jan. Just let McKenna Grace plays Jan Broberg throughout.
Yeah, I got extremely thrown by that. It hadn't been long enough, and even though MG's Jan is only 13 in this episode, she looks every minute of MG's 16 years. When the year came up on screen I'd already lost track of the timeline of everything else so I got a bit lost.
While I think both parents and especially Mary Ann were reckless fools on many levels, I don't think they knew the level of Jan's brainwashing. At this point they think she just likes B, but not that she thinks they're each others great loves or that her parents are obstacles to saving lives. She's doing a good job covering that, so I assume they thought she was fine to leave at home with the younger kids since B wasn't anywhere around. (I can't believe I'm defending them in any way because my GOD they're awful, but on this one point of Mary Ann letting Jan watch the younger siblings, I can see the rationale... just on virtually nothing else)
Mary Ann's sister cracked me up. "Wow, sorry your husband's ditching you, that's a real loss and your life is basically ruined, sucks to be you!" Ah, the comfort of family!
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I'm hearing both of these episodes are basically remakes of Cruising, so it sounds like I need to rewatch Cruising this weekend for the first time in decades because I basically remember nothing (other than undercover Pacino, S&M clubs, serial killer).
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16 hours ago, iMonrey said:
So far so good. Although I wish Ryan Murphy would stop trying to make Billie Lourd happen. She is without a doubt the worst actress I have ever seen. Aside from her they seem to have a really good cast this season.
It's such a bummer -- the first couple times I saw her in something I was really excited, but it turned out she just fit those parts perfectly with the Just One Thing she does. And wow does that Just One Thing not work for most roles, especially this one. (Okay, and the ten prior.) This episode just deflates whenever it shifts to her.
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On 10/20/2022 at 12:11 AM, peridot said:
The scene in the police station was odd. They had a random guy in a thong available for use?
That cracked me up -- however, it was the scene that promised us this really is AHS and not just a serial killer story!
14 hours ago, farmgal4 said:I’m so pissed off! I had no time idea that 2 new episodes aired last night! When did they start doing that?? Is it going to be that way all season? Did anything happen in the second episode that I need to know about before next week’s episode(s)? I’m sorry for so many questions. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.
I'm pretty sure it's double episodes every single week for the full season, yes. I don't understand why. But at least episodes are on Hulu by morning now instead of the endless wait it used to involve. FX re-airs episodes a lot, too, so you might be able to find a rerun of the 2nd episode before next week if you're just dealing with the cable schedule.
Unrelated: I love Jeff Hiller, so it's fun seeing him get to play a bad guy in this (Whitely).
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19 hours ago, Elizzikra said:
My husband and I laughed at that too. It was nice to see Sam have something of a personality. For a serial killer, he really is pretty bland.
That and his whole "Thanks a lot, now I'm one of those guys with a body in the basement" line a few episodes back gave us a little sense of his humor, which I appreciated. But I like that he's generally such bore, since real-life serial killers usually are (despite the exciting, captivating ones of cinema). Can't even re-tell a simple joke. Tedious man.
19 hours ago, Giant Misfit said:I will lose my mind if it turns out Sam is not actually real and just some projection for Alan to work out his issues with his son.
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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1 hour ago, WatcherUatl10 said:
Oh, he planned and orchestrated that, IMO. He's isolating Lucy, and she's lying FOR him now, and that's what he wanted.
I know, but planning and orchestrating that is full psycho!
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I don't know how that man expects to get through life when "meeting the girlfriend's mother" causes him to go full psycho
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6 hours ago, mandymax said:
I'm guessing that was Drew's car over the edge? I was watching on my laptop and the screen was dark, so I couldn't see much. But I can't believe Stephen actually felt bad enough to CRY, like they showed, and I certainly can't believe he ran straight to Lucy and told her he loved her. What was THAT all about?
At least things are finally starting to happen, now that the next episode is the finale. Is there a season 2 in the works?
I don't think anyone's car was over the edge in this episode, Stephen just went to the site of Macy's death
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3 hours ago, WatcherUatl10 said:
It's been a while since I graduated college, but wouldn't the test for plagiarism be ascertaining whether Lucy's writing style was comparable to the Live Journal piece, and not about the content? She could very well have had the same thing happen to her as to someone on the internet, but the way it was told would be different enough to distinguish them.
Yeah, "it's autobiographical" is a bizarre way to disprove plagiarism. I never used LiveJournal so I guess I'm clueless here, but considering she wrote it on her LiveJournal, it feels a bit odd that she couldn't prove that. "I don't have access to that email address anymore" is not really enough of an obstacle.
I feel like we're not going to get much next week since it's the finale. No way they can wrap all this up and jump back to the 2015(?) framing scenes. I'm a bit annoyed. I'd be interested in a second season with a new story, but not another season of this story.
I, too, was shocked that Stephen had enough feelings that he actually cried. (Not enough to garner my sympathy, of course!)
Poor Pippa.
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So disturbing.
I'm struggling with Mary Ann, though. Anna Paquin does not seem like she's playing an actual person, just some sort of wind-up doll with either a blank face or a worried face, it's very artificial and one-dimensional. I'm really craving more of a perspective there and there just isn't one. I'm finding I wish Tipton and Paquin had been cast in each other's roles. Everyone else's acting is very believable, though, especially Jake Lacy. It's so funny that he's made a career of such extremes -- he seems to always be an absolute (charming) entitled creep, or the really genuinely nice dude who's never really been noticed or appreciated.
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Season 1 Discussion
in Tell Me Lies
Yes, plus in the school break episode where everyone went back home, wasn't Lydia the friend on whose behalf Lucy punched that guy?