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That one was weirdly refreshing, in that the accused was wholly unsympathetic. Maybe not a great look for them to portray that demographic this way, but this series has been pretty performative in the other direction that it's not exactly a worrisome pattern at this point.
14 hours ago, LtKelley said:So a slightly more realistic version of You, with no glass cage and the stalker is easily caught. No sympathy for Samir from me.
Exactly what I was thinking -- it was very Season 1 You!
8 hours ago, SnazzyDaisy said:Really Mrs. Khalil??! He is a grown ass man with stalkerish behavior.
I cracked up at that, too. "He was agitated when he left the house" is a very bad defense for murder!
Who was the actress playing the stalkee/realtor? She looked so awkward, like a high school kid in a power suit trying to look like a high-powered professional
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1 hour ago, KaveDweller said:
Oh, yeah, I agree. They spent ages getting her and Dennis together, they better not have her hook up with someone else so fast. At least Davia convinced the director not to make the awful sounding play more awful. But I think he's pissed at her now.
Meanwhile, Dennis is annoying with refusing to take short cuts. I know his investor is supposed to be an awful drug user, but making a call to a friend is not a huge deal in the scheme of things.
I'm pretty sure the friend really did still do the bribe, and that Dennis still knows that deep down but moved forward anyway.
God the musical is bad. But Davia is also really bad in it. She just kept walking across the space with her arms by her side like a robot. I also think that was a lousy way to try to collaborate with the writer -- it's completely inappropriate to just tell him "the change you are making will fail, you should not do it." She should've raised the issue and they could've had a collaborative discussion. That's what musical workshops are for -- so it's very bizarre there's no one else in the room to facilitate those discussions. (I don't know why I'm all of a sudden expecting realism from this storyline though.)
Joaquin has ridiculously low empathy for his sister's situation. It's not going to help her deprogramming to ignore her attempts to talk about it!
Oh Malika. You are not winning that girl back.
19 hours ago, BreezieBitch said:If Davia hooks up with her costar, I’m going to be so over this show.
I felt like the episode title and all that repetition about cheating was definitely pointing in that direction -- but I agree, I hope not.
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26 minutes ago, KaveDweller said:
Maybe the amnesia means he is still unable to fullfill his role?
But Evan's lawyer did tell Marianna she was still his proxy and advised her not to tell anyone at Spekulate that Evan was awake. So if that is illegal, she is getting bad advice.
Oh, I missed the lawyer telling her that. That seems very bizarre!
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21 hours ago, KaveDweller said:
I actually agreed with the Bulk Beauty ladies. Just because Marianna doesn't like New Evan's attitude, doesn't mean he doesn't have a right to make his own decisions.
I'm pretty sure that what Marianna was doing is literally illegal! If you're somebody's proxy because they're incapacitated and then they wake up -- you're not legally in charge anymore. Unless I missed a scene where they explained some sort of loophole. That did not sit well with me at all! Faking to the board that he's still comatose? Damn, Marianna!
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This show is just so good. I'm nervous because it's the best Netflix original I've seen in a while but their release model (and the fact that their dominance has taken quite a blow) makes me worried that folks will binge all of this before the weekend's up and then pretty much forget about it, which seems to do damage to these addictive/quick shows, unlike the ones that are getting constant per-episode engagement and discussion for a full week before the next one comes. Here's hoping this one gets its props! (For one thing, I'm so grateful that it's separated into episodes on this board, because normally the whole-season-in-one-topic format means you either get spoiled or can't discuss the finer points that you've already forgotten by the end anyway, if you wait)
I loved the weeping-in-church scene and then the big Amy/George "vulnerability" talk because, even though it's incisive dark comedy, I don't think I'd connect with it as much if it were pure cynicism. There's plenty of humanity going on here.
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There was an unnecessary apostrophe on the blackboard in Janine's classroom that was driving me nuts. (In the state capitals lesson, it said something like "match each state to it's capital." Come on production people! She's supposed to be teaching them punctuation!) On the other hand, I'm the absolute psycho who saw, rewound, and paused it so I could make sure. Hardly a lengthy error that stayed on screen.
21 hours ago, lovinbob said:I adore this show beyond measure, but I was actually slightly disappointed with the writing for the scene with Janine and Ms O'Neal. First I think it would have been more effective had we seen more of the student's issues throughout the year. I also thought that Janine could have done a better job of explaining the steps she'd been taking with him. It just felt a little too condensed and rushed.
It did feel a little odd when later she told Barbara that she had "offered solutions" to the mother. As far as I understand we didn't see a portion of that meeting, we saw the whole thing, and she definitely didn't offer any solutions other than vague things about "working as a team." She did nothing wrong, I just think that lack of specificity is going to get any parent on the defensive (and in this case, offensive).
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8 hours ago, possibilities said:
There was a trial because she refused to take a plea. So even if it was an open and shut case, they had to have the trial to show that to a jury.
She refused to take a plea deal that involved apologizing and a charge/sentence reduction, but she did not seem to be pleading not guilty. So I was just confused about the trial for what appeared to be a guilty or no contest plea. Or maybe I misread it and it wasn't a trial at all but just a sentencing hearing.
(I don't know why I'm looking for legal verisimilitude in this show anyway, they don't really seem interested in that side of it other than the possibility for implausible courtroom theatrics)
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Granted, we don't have the backstory about how this friend "disappointed" Davia in the past, but it felt like overkill that she looks so offended that a big star had passed on the role before he offered it to her. He still offered it to her! And he still may have written it with her in mind!
For some reason this one TV trope where people go to a first readthrough and get introduced to each other with character descriptions always drives me nuts. I know he's apparently not written the ending but they would know the basics of the show by the first table read. Obviously it's for the TV audience but for some reason I just find it clunkier than a lot of other exposition shortcuts.
I did like the parallels between Mariana and Malika's storylines.
I know this show is didactic by design and meant for young people, so I get why they do it, but I still get a good laugh from the afterschool-special-esque nature of it all, like Dennis's dangerous! cokehead buddy!
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I didn't really understand what the trial was for -- what was the defense? Was it that they were trying to paint it as justifiable homicide or something? Also it cracked me up that they let Aaliyah deliver a tearful, heartfelt speech to the defendant in the middle of the trial.
Driving the car all the way back to their home in Brooklyn was also completely unhinged.
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1 hour ago, possibilities said:
I think any lawyer who gets a legal job and moves to another state for it would take the bar and do whatever else is needed for that state's licensing. I'm sure the ACLU has whatever policies in place to make sure their lawyers are practicing fully qualified. For all we know, Callie is just doing interviews and research and other things under supervision of a senior attorney, not filing anything solo or appearing in court, but whatever she's doing, I'm willing to believe the ACLU is doing it with all the proper rules in place.
Indeed, but they sure tried to make it sound like Callie's doing high-level work independently all of a sudden (including in California, and apparently has no agreement with ACLU that she can't just represent whomever she wants independently, which feels absurdly unlikely!), just a few short months into her time with the ACLU, which makes no sense. But the passage of time on this show is always incredibly uneven. At least she didn't get back together with Brandon offscreen? Little blessings.
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On 3/25/2023 at 5:02 AM, circumvent said:
The story with Isabela was actually good. It was probably the actor's send off so I think they could have spent some extra time on it, on her desire to seek mental health help.
Also, Callie saying she could file a motion blah blah to help Luka was a stretch. That's not how counseling work, having a beer around the pool.
Also, wasn't Callie never admitted to the bar in CA anyway? I can't remember the trajectory on that.
Isabella's sendoff was way undercooked, she just handed the baby off, said "no pressure on parenting or adopting either" and left? So there's no plan at all?
6 hours ago, circumvent said:Gael is the father, he has rights, the best solution for the show - that does not really has a place for a baby - is to let Jasmine and her husband adopt her and be done with it. Gael can still be part of her life but it is all in the background, we don't need to see any of that
I really hope that's what they do, that was so cruel to renege on the adoption plan and of course the story didn't focus on the heartbreak for Jasmine and her husband at all. On the other hand, if he offers to move forward with the adoption plan now, Jasmine and her husband might rightly turn it down for fear of future reversals since Isabella didn't actually approve anything.
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1 hour ago, bilgistic said:
So is Dee Dee now living in a small apartment in L.A. and selling her husband's condo, or is she now a real estate agent? That wasn't clear from the conversation with her daughter.
I couldn't parse it either -- is she flipping condos in LA? Or just the one? Was she painting a condo to put on the market, or was that their place? And UC colleges are extremely expensive for out-of-state students, I guess maybe she can find some loophole to establish residency for the daughter based on the dad having an address in CA for a long time? (I'm overthinking it, I know.)
Couldn't help but laugh at Dee Dee filling her daughter in on the private details of each of the other patients from a confidential therapy group.
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27 minutes ago, bilgistic said:
Adriana is the congressperson-elect. Amanda is the piano restorer.
With such deeply developed, distinctive three-dimensional characters, I'm shocked that I mixed up two very similar names! (More seriously, I confess that the only character names I remember are Kojo, Dee Dee, and Edward -- and his only because it's in the title. I had to scroll up for the other names!)
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Not a terrible ending, although there were as many irritating cliches as ever in this episode, but just Dee Dee in general plus Taylor Schilling being such a good actress that she can make me feel something for a story I can't stand? That was worth it.
Again with Amanda saying the blandest things and getting a big laugh and applause from her supporters -- she was talking about being in a pizza joint "in New York City" with Kojo and cooking up the plan to run (it doesn't really add a detail while you're standing in New York City talking to New York City residents about the time you decided to run for office representing New York City to mention that the pizza place you were in was located in New York City), and then said something about how the pizza just had cheese and sauce and "none of those extras" and the crowd went wild. What?
I was glad Sam's wife left him, although she did it way too nicely.
Funny that Edward left such a cherished and sentimental treasure under the radiator of his family's former apartment when they were moving west. (Also I guess not that sentimental since he gave it away to Shay, to whom it means nothing.) Very fortunate that the huge expensive apartment didn't even get a coat of fresh paint before a new family moved in!
Really don't care if Edward has another uncle, but I'd be truly shocked if this got another season. There was a little buzz about it in the first week but outside of coming here to vent with all of you about it, I haven't heard a peep since.
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On 3/22/2023 at 7:13 AM, dancingdreamer said:
Jason Ritter looks like his father, he has the same warmth in his demeanor. That's what apparently gets him into his trouble. I didn't like his girlfriend before anything happened. It's a shame Jack lost his teaching position, over something so infuriating. I was angry watching.
So true about Jason Ritter. My heart was basically bleeding every second I looked at his face, it's just baked in.
On 3/22/2023 at 9:15 AM, LakeGal said:I can see Jack's girlfriend breaking up with him. It was about the lies. He lied to her. I did not understand why he could not have told her the truth. He handled everything wrong.
He didn't seem at all surprised that she's so anti-abortion so I'd imagine that's why he didn't include her. But it's too fundamental a difference, so it's good that they split.
I found this to be one of the better episodes. Pretty engaging. That said, I didn't understand what the girlfriend said to the mom that made her turn on a dime like that and 100% believe that Jack was innocent and her husband was a rapist after having been so committed to the other version of things just seconds before. It didn't really seem like enough.
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This was the episode Malia Obama wrote, which I knew was coming but didn't realize until just after that it was this one. Now I'm curious to rewatch with that in mind!
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7 hours ago, Adgirl said:
This is a great addition to the new female revenge thriller genre.
The various hives on Twitter are already buzzing about this.
I'm scared to look because I don't want spoilers -- I took one glance and so many people have already finished! Anyway, loved the first episode. Weird, disturbing, funny, dark. Fishback is stellar.
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16 minutes ago, Empress1 said:
Zoe could have apologized for how she spoke to Dee Dee, and her roommates could have left the room (though her roommate did ask. But I’d have just excused myself and left). I don’t want Zoe out here thinking she has no work to do. She’s kind of an asshole.
I agree, I didn't care for Dee Dee essentially absolving Zoe with that mea culpa. Make her meet in the middle!
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It's unreal to me how much more cliched and trite this show gets each episode. It's really kind of shocking considering the pedigree and how promising the start was. I'm so relieved there's only one left, because clearly I can't help myself and have to finish it. I'll miss Dee Dee! That's about the extent of it.
Why doesn't the therapist offer to continue the group if they're able to pay (or is he just the airline's EAP person)? Why is he so pissy with patients? Who just says nothing till hours later to a child who's just announced that he was supposed to die in the crash that killed his whole family? What congressional candidate exploits her personal connections and wastes the TSA's time for her personal romantic gestures, holding a staged federal apprehension of a Ghanian man WITH A LITTLE KID in the middle of a busy airport? (Way to traumatize an already traumatized child!) Why did the Amanda/Steve scenes feel like a soap opera parody? So unearned! And Sam's wife is way too kind.
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1 hour ago, Spartan Girl said:
They really should have ended the episode with Jonah coming clean. Laura taking the fall for him doesn’t make a lot of sense: any good defense attorney would have made it case by rehashing how messed up he was after his brother was killed and what Joanna and the rest of those nuts did to them. I doubt a jury would have given a harsh sentence when plenty of them would have gladly killed her themselves. Knowing his mother is in prison because of what he did isn’t going to help “ heal” him or his dad.
That was my feeling too. This was a cruelty to Jonah. He has to take this secret to his grave and never get the proper support to process and heal. That family will never recover. Such a bleak ending.
I was wondering if the school shooting was the same one from the first episode? I couldn't remember where that one took place. Or they just had two school shooting episodes this close together, completely unrelated? I suppose it would be interesting if some of the cases were linked, just in a way to demonstrate the far-reaching consequences of acts of violence, cover-ups, etc.
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This show is exhausting. Throwing a piano down the stairs? In a school where an entire floor is entirely unattended in the middle of the school day for some reason?
Sam's a jackass. I felt like the scoring during those scenes was trying to indicate that we should feel excited butterflies for his self-awakening or something? Vernon's a dumbass for engaging.
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20 hours ago, Madding crowd said:
I appreciate your point of view and you always have a well thought out response. In this episode I don’t agree they actually gave us something to think about. We know women are raped by famous people and they are not held accountable. We know women lose their jobs over speaking out. In this case Brenda came out a loser because people will still blame her for what happened even though it was ridiculous to charge her with a crime.
Having an unwell woman throw acid in Zeke’s face only results in her incarceration; it didn’t speak to Brenda being branded a slut or losing her job at the club. The women who came to the courtroom aren’t going to help her pay her bills. So to me this episode didn’t give me anything new to think about, the acid throwing was just used as a gotcha moment.
Full agreement. This episode set up a massive ton of things that could have been interrogated and led to some thought-provoking moments. Instead they provided zero nuance or subtlety to the point that I was repeatedly embarrassed by how old-fashioned it all seemed. Outside of the social media component, this felt like a groundbreaking evening network drama in 1987.
23 minutes ago, circumvent said:I can accept the premise that the show is not trying to give us simple answers. But if this is what they are doing, is not really working for me because the writing is not to the level of nuance they want us to reach.
Agreed. They have the ingredients for raising complicated questions, but for the most part end up presenting it in the most oversimplified, cliched way possible. I do think there have been some exceptions (Scott's Story, Robyn's Story), but I feel like most episode are taking the most obvious and easy angle.
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Another hamfisted, overwritten one, but still interesting to see unfold. I was a little distracted and didn't watch terribly closely, though -- what was Cummings doing? I couldn't tell if she was supposed to be drugged/drunk or have a serious mouth injury from the attack for most of the episode (or just a bad fillers incident?). She just kind of stopped moving her mouth after a certain point and always looked dazed.
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This show feels like it would've been really beautiful and groundbreaking in, like, 1998.
On 3/3/2023 at 4:42 PM, Straycat80 said:And Edwards uncle left his aunt, and I don’t know why.
No clue, but John's an asshole. Lacey might be trying him right now, but he just walked out on his wife and nephew while they're trying to put the pieces back together after an unimaginable tragedy. He should try therapy before abandoning a grieving child. (Granted, I don't personally like that grieving child! But he's still a grieving child!) But he'll probably go off on some spiritual journey on his own now after his magical experience in that field.
Although what is with Taylor Schilling's hair? It seems deliberately styled to be pushed in her face in an "effortlessly messy" way that looks very, very high-effort. Comb your hair, Lacey!
On 3/3/2023 at 4:52 AM, Harvey said:The drama with the politician woman: I can just not care. The whole storyline is so damn cliché, both professionally and romantically. I skip most of her scenes each episode and I still have no problem following what's happening because it's just so basic. That said, she was justified in asking Kojo, why is he not the one to move.
I loved Kojo and Adriana at first but the story is so paint-by-numbers, I just cringe every time. And yeah, why isn't he the one to move? He has two reasons to stay, considering I doubt Becks wants to be uprooted and live in a new country right now. That story has practically dropped the needs of the orphaned child completely. (Seems to be a pattern.)
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S24.E19: Bend The Law
in Law & Order: SVU
All I know is that they referred to Camden, Maine as a "five-hour drive" from Manhattan about 12 times during this episode and I was losing my mind about it. Are they trying to tell us they abuse their cop privilege and go at about 150% of the speed limit the whole way?
Extremely fucked up. I really bristled at that. For someone in her position to jump to "deserve" in that scenario? That's "people on Twitter making jokes about a news story where a woman shoots her hubby for cheating with her sister" stuff, not Captain of SVU stuff. She could've just wondered aloud what the husband had done that the shooting was in reaction to, rather than outright endorsing it and shrugging it off. (Although presumably, the writerly thinking was that All-Knowing Olivia could already magically antipate that the guy must've been a pedo -- which deserves an equal amount of bristling.)