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Like I said a few weeks ago, I don't mind Meghan being bitchy because, well, she's going to get called one anyway. So go ahead and read bitches for filth. There's no love lost.
I also said, and today's episode was a good example of it, that the other hosts force Meghan to defend shit she really shouldn't have to defend. Again: have your biases and points of view all you want, but at least bake some objectivity into the cake. Or, don't complain when your "opponents" fail to do so.
Sunny is supposed to be this great prosecutor. If so, why didn't she check Whoopi about Page and Strzok? She "knows" that a prosecutor's case not only has to be strong in an evidentiary sense, but as a matter of integrity. So two FBI agents being removed from an investigation for bias, one of whom was fired altogether, is fair game for any trial. And so are text messages talking about "insurance policies" in case they win.
Sunny also knows that Barr, just like any other AG, past, present, and future, serves at the pleasure of the President. So whining that he's not spilling the tea in these congressional hearings just sounds like a baby needs her bottle. No he's not going to tee Trump up for impeachment. He released a lengthy, lightly redacted report that didn't reach conclusions Whoopi and Sunny agreed with, so they "still have questions". That's why Meghan bottom-lined it and said impeachment is the only thing good enough for "some people". Because, well, yeah.
The back-and-forth with Dershowitz and Sunny was slightly more interesting, but Sunny was once again acting like a legal bimbo instead of an experienced prosecutor. Sunny said that Mueller didn't reach a conclusion on obstruction because of DOJ policy (a conclusion he explicitly denies in the report and Barr testified was also not the case). Alan countered that, but there's also the point that Congress can't use the DOJ or Special Counsel to investigate a President they really want to impeach. Congress needs to conduct its own investigation if it wanted to do that. And if Mueller was going to punt based on DOJ policy, WHY WAIT 22 FREAKING MONTHS TO SAY IT?
I'm sorry. I'll take bitchy Meghan who is at least intellectually honest even when I think she's being silly and/or wrong than Sunny who is smart but plays the role of a literal-minded idiot just so she can stay in people's good graces any day.
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Uh, I have a question:
Who at CBS approved of JJ’s haircut? Because, um, girl? I’m not sure if I’m feeling the Ruth Bader Sheindlin realness that she’s serving us.
My stomach started hurting for no reason today and I was wondering why. Now I see. Somebody stole her Aquanet and bitch and it unsettled me.
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On 4/24/2019 at 7:47 AM, truthaboutluv said:
Yes, because by all means, let's reduce a woman's success to a man. Let's be clear about something here - Jay Z does not write, produce or manage anything of Beyonce's music. He never has.She has her own team and her own vision for these things. Like most rappers, when he's been featured on a song, he writes his own rap verse and has some collaboration but that's where it ends. Of all her Billboard Number 1 songs, aside from many of them coming from her Destiny's Child days, Crazy In Love was the only one that featured Jay Z.
And are people suddenly forgetting that for years Beyonce and Jay Z were very private about their relationship to the point that she wouldn't even admit to dating him? Seriously? So Beyonce only exploded like she did versus many of that generation because she started dating a rich and famous man in his own right and nothing to do with the fact that she worked her ass off and for a period was producing hit after hit after hit song.
Nobody's reducing her success down to her being with "a man", but let's not kid ourselves. Being married to someone who has a lot of wealth and fame does give you a certain leg up -- again, in obvious and not-so-obvious ways. Beyonce would probably even admit that. Even though, when you marry someone, it's not really your money/their money anymore, if Beyonce just used her own money to finance certain projects, she has the security in knowing the rest of her lifestyle isn't going to suffer. That's not the case if it's just a successful woman with a regular guy.
QuoteMeanwhile, Britney lost her mind, literally. And no, that's not me making light of mental illness. But the reality was she got involved with the wrong people, the drug use got out of control and it was all downhill. And Christina aside from barely releasing albums, also can't seem to recognize any sound that hasn't sounded dated as hell in the last ten years. That's why they are where they are and Beyonce is where she is.
All facts.
QuoteWell maybe it's because Bon Appetit just sucked. Because people sure didn't seem to have a problem when she collaborated with Snoop Dogg on California Girls, which went to Number 1, collaborated with Juicy J on Dark Horse, also went to number 1 and with Kanye West on E.T. and that went to number 1. But suddenly her song flops as most of her recent releases have and it's because white artists have it harder to add hip hop to their sound than black artists?
So, you named songs from Katy Perry's period of peak popularity, two of those were from the same album. Those songs came out when pop music was still A Thing and she was able to use rappers as an accent. And yes, those songs are better than Bon Appetit.
The point is, hip-hop is more dominant than it was in 2011-2014 when those songs came out. I agree Bon Appetit kinda sucked, but [small voice]so does Apeshit[/small voice].
Another example is Taylor Swift. She came out rapping and collaborated with Future and I wouldn't say her last era was unsuccessful, but there was definitely a fall off.
QuoteNot true. Just because her name was always out there in some way or the other, doesn't mean she didn't take the requisite periods between albums.
Beyonce took three years between her I Am...Sasha Fierce album and 4. Then it was two years between 4 and Beyonce and three years beween Beyonce and Lemonade.
Yes, she toured and featured on songs but that's what many hard working artists passionate about their careers do.
Three years between albums when you've already released three with your group and three solo is not a break. There were tours, video albums, and big singles attached to those. Three years isn't a break at all unless you're a brand new artist and still cultivating a fan base.
A break is like what Christina did. She put out an album in 2012, then released again in 2018.
She can afford to bankroll these projects off the backs of her previous success.
First of all, just because hip-hop is a popular and dominant sound, it doesn't mean it's one's only path to success. Because many artists' success would belie this. No one is obligated to include those elements as the only way to have success. That's a cop-out.
But that said, are we forgetting all these collaborations many of these contemporaries did do back then that was very successful for them? Justin's first two solo albums were largely produced by Timbaland and Pharrell Williams and the team of N.E.R.D. Christina had Lil Kim and Redman on her Stripped album. And far as I'm aware, no one was questioning those collaborations for them.
Again: hip-hop was not the dominant pop sound back then. Timbaland and Pharrell are credible pop music producers; they have produced pop hits for several artists and it wasn't just hip-hop. They were able to alter their sound.
And, as far as Stripped is concerned, if I'm not mistaken, Christina got flack from her label, Scott Storch, and Rockwilder (who produced "Dirrty" and is another hip-hop producer who produced pop hits) for the "urban/hip-hop" direction she went in on Stripped. It was trashed critically when it first came out, and there was even talk that her label rushed out "Beautiful" after Dirrty didn't do that well and the video got banned in a few countries.
Again: hip-hop was not the dominant pop sound back then. Timbaland and Pharrell are credible pop music producers; they have produced pop hits for several artists and it wasn't just hip-hop. They were able to alter their sound.
And, as far as Stripped is concerned, if I'm not mistaken, Christina got flack from her label, Scott Storch, and Rockwilder (who produced "Dirrty" and is another hip-hop producer who produced pop hits) for the "urban/hip-hop" direction she went in on Stripped. It was trashed critically when it first came out, and there was even talk that her label rushed out "Beautiful" after Dirrty didn't do that well and the video got banned in a few countries.
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22 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:
When I first watched the show when it aired on HBO Charlotte was my least favorite. As the series progressed I liked her more. Maybe I'm in the minority but I liked Miranda better without Steve. Carrie didn't really bother me too much on the first watch but in subsequent viewings (and there have been several) she annoys me so much. Samantha was always my favorite. As much as liked her with Smith and thought the way they broke up was ridiculous I do understand Samantha chafing at that life. Some women really are happier being single.
Samantha was my favorite too but I felt like the show used her as an unrealistic celebration of women who don’t submit to traditional gender roles. Like, okay you have no interest in having kids...fine. I’ve heard many women who chose not to parent that even if they’re secure in that decision, your biological clock kind of kicks your ass a little bit for it. We never saw that type of internal struggle with Samantha, but fine.
Ok, you’re not really into marriage. Eh, some women prefer to be alone, but Samantha wasn’t exactly a loner. She was an extrovert, had many acquaintances, personal and professional, and we know she loved sex. Fine, but I felt Samantha never gave commitment a real chance up until Smith, because she didn’t have to. She was an attractive woman who could find any number of single men to bang, so actually having to stick with one was completely preferential.
In reality, ending a relationship so you can run the streets with your aging gal pals — all of whom have settled down — isn’t so much commendable as much as it is kind of tired. There’s a season for the partying and bed hopping, but after awhile, it’s time to grow up. And I’m holding Sam to the same standard I would a man in her position.
Hooking up with a dude at a wedding is fun and sexy in your 20s. At, like 47? You’re kind of eating Thot Pockets for lunch.
No shade.
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13 minutes ago, topanga said:
But Beyonce was well on her way before she married Jay Z. Yes, he rapped on Crazy In Love. Maybe they were dating?? But that song was a hit even without his verse, and her first solo album was a hit from the moment it landed.
And you could argue that Beyonce gave his visibility a bump. While Jay Z was already famous, and certainly a successful music producer and business man, he was "Black People famous." Or at least Hip-Hop community famous. These days I'm sure that people in Middle America cab tell you who Jay is--if they know who Beyonce is, that is.
Oh, absolutely. I’ve alwayd felt that without Beyonce Jay Z would be just a cool rapper from NYC. Most people only care about him because of the visibility he got from being with Beyonce.
And you’re right Beyonce has amassed a lot of wealth on her own. But when you marry, it all goes into a pot, so to speak. And with Jay Z having a lot of wealth, certain things she wants to do are more attainable because of their combined wealth. So she can off-set the regular budget an artist would get for a series of music videos or a tour. If someone like Ariana Grande wanted to put together a performance like Beyoncé did at Coachella, she’d have to hope to get some major backing from sponsors and/or the label. Having access to capital is the key to most artists’ success; it’s even better if it’s your own money.
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Re: Berger. He’s an example of what I meant by male characters doing things guys wouldn’t do.
Berger had an attitude because Carrie said a NYC woman wouldn’t be caught out on the town wearing a scrunchie. Obviously Carrie was just giving him a hard time in a loving way. Any guy who has ever dealt with a woman for ten minutes knows that’s what they do sometimes. You know when she’s being good natured and when she’s just being a bitch. Carrie was OBVIOUSLY being the former. If anything, HE was being a bitch when he went after her hat because he was mad about the scrunchie.
Same with Carrie asking if he was going to write when he went with her to jury duty and he asked if she thought he was going to just sit on his ass all day. Or when he scared her half to death because apparently he had a problem with her book doing better than his. They say never date a writer, but damn.
Obviously they had a jokey relationship and he seemed to have a sense of humor, so these random moody teenager on Sunday night in high school outbursts just seemed weird.
Where I thought Carrie was being a bit bitchy was during their date where Charlotte left her bad date to join them. I kinda felt like Berger should’ve told Carrie off.
First of all, if I’m Berger, I’m already looking at Charlotte, a grown ass woman, a little funny because she can’t diplomatically end a bad date, if she had to “end it” prematurely at all. Most first dates don’t lead straight to the altar. It was going to end eventually. But fine, you have your silly ass “call and say something bad happened” system down. Whatever.
The second way Carrie tried it is inviting her on their date after her date is over. Without even asking Berger if it was okay. You got me fucked up, Bradshaw. Really that’s not even something you should ask while on a date. Charlotte, I bailed you out, but I’m with my man right now; take your ass home and we’ll talk about it over breakfast tomorrow (because neither of you worked a full time job). And really, Charlotte shouldn’t have allowed herself to be invited to their date. Have some couth and wait until later to chit-chat with Carrie.
The THIRD reason Carrie should’ve gotten cursed out is, after their date is interrupted by your co-dependent, petty ass friend with limited social etiquette, and then allowing herself to be invited on their date, now Berger has to sit and listen to you hoes talk about the bad date she just ended and what type of guy she hopes to find?! And then when he tries to be a good sport about his date being hijacked and makes a little joke about Harry and filler flowers, Carrie tries to check him?! She really said, “don’t say that to her” and he said, “oh sorry, I was just making a joke” and then Carrie goes “well it wasn’t funny”. Berger should’ve told both of them that their coochies stink, gave them the finger, and left. Who in the actual fuck are you talking to???
I see why Berger broke up with her ass on a Post-It. I was on her side back then but thinking about it now, oh hell no. Berger should’ve gone ghost on her with the quickness.
As a matter of fact, had that been me, that Post-It would’ve been way more disrespectful. I would’ve said, “YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS ARE WACK. I’M SORRY. DON’T HATE ME. BECAUSE IT’S NOT MY FAULT. BYE BITCH.”
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4 hours ago, Fiver said:
Funny you mention this, because Beyonce basically has the same level of career I assumed Christina Aguilera would have, back when she broke out in 1999. Out of all the female pop stars who started around the same time, I never would have picked Beyonce to have the most successful adult career. That's not because she wasn't talented, but because the Destiny's Child Beyonce we knew back then seemed fine, but not particularly artistic or interesting, and certainly not in control of her own career, the way she is, now. It's been an interesting transformation to watch, that's for sure.
I completely agree. I think that comes down to, well, Beyonce married a rich and famous dude, but besides that, Christina is like the Haley’s comet of pop music.
Counting her proper albums, she released one album when I was in middle school, one album when I was in high school, one album when I was in college, and three this decade (four including the Burlesque soundtrack). Only a handful of features, didn’t tour for a decade, and barely knows to work the Internet.
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15 hours ago, topanga said:
I agree. Beyonce has an It factor that you can't deny. And her work ethic is admirable. I really enjoyed Homecoming. I'd already seen the first night of Coachella on my FB feed, but I enjoyed being able to see parts of the second show--which seemed to be as good as--if not better than--the first night's performance. The behind-the-scenes-footage was enjoyable, too. But can Blue Ivy even sing? All I heard (barely) were the high-pitched squeaks of a little girl. She seems shy like her mom is/was. But also seemed lik e a nice kid who's not a brat. So there's that.
I still don't understand what people mean when they call Beyonce basic--she has a unique vocal sound, she's a good dancer, and she does things in her concerts that no one else does. Maybe I'm just too old and can't fully grasp what it means to be basic.
What I will say in criticism is that she tries to be all things to all people, and I can't figure out who Beyonce really is. Especially when she's being raunchy/threatening/sexual in her music, which doesn't feel authentic. It's as if she's trying impress different fan bases with different songs.
I'm not saying that Beyonce is Amish behind closed doors. And I'm sure she curses in every day conversation and likes to get freaky with her man. But I don't believe her songs about fucking people up (except Jay Z) or her songs with graphic depictions of the sex she just had. Another example: she's all about empowering women and girls, but in certain songs, she'll call women bitches left and right. So which sentiment is real?
In contrast, Madonna loves to make overly sexual music--but she's hyper-sexual in real life. Cardi B is charming and funny in her music but also a little ratchet--but that's who she is. Lady Gaga's songs are original and weird, but that's who she is, too. And yes, Nicki Minaj's act is 90% schtick, but I also believe that she really is sex-positive, a bit of a mean girl, and has a filthy mouth--I don't question those things about her.
I never get the feeling I'm seeing the real Beyonce on stage or in her videos. Lemonade was probably the closest I've come to understanding a little about her. But she still threw in several what she considered crowd-pleasing "Bitch, I'm the Queen" songs, too.
By basic I’m usually referring to the lack of uniqueness and ordinariness I see in Beyonce that’s typically masked by the spectacle around her. I think Beyonce enjoys doing the pop/R&B thing punctuated by a certain amount of ratchetness to make it seem edgy. Like you mentioned, she’s supposed to be this feminist, empowering women, and then in the next breath calling women bitches and telling them to bow down. I think a right-wing radio host, maybe even Rush Limbaugh if you can believe it, made the same point. I think some of that is Jay-Z’s stank getting on her, but there’s always a little self-worship in her music.
12 hours ago, truthaboutluv said:As far as I'm concerned, in a world where Ariana "I can't enunciate to save my life" Grande has become one of the biggest selling female artists, Selena Gomez is considered a "singer", the notion of Beyonce as "basic" in any way is ridiculous in my opinion.
Yes, the Beyhive and some in the entertainment world are over the top in their adulation and deifying of her, but the fact is, like you and the other posted noted, she is a damn good singer and all around amazing performer who works her ass off and has been killing the game for almost two decades now.
I think sometimes people forget that Beyonce is of the generation of the Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, N'Sync, Backstreet Boys, etc. and when you consider what her trajectory has been compared to all of these people, it's amazing.
I think she is being real and it's just another facet of her personality. That and she just grew up and became more sexually confident in a way she wasn't in her earlier Destiny's Child days and first solo albums. Not to mention that keep in mind, in those days she was still being managed by her father.
And so much like when Mariah Carey broke free from Tommy Mottala and the outfits suddenly became tighter and shorter and she ushered in the pop singer/hip hop collaborations, Beyonce became a bolder version of herself the older she got and became more in control of her career and image.
And it's not like Beyonce has had an overnight out of nowhere change. You can look back at her albums, performances, etc. and see how they got increasingly sexual, bolder, outfits skimpier and skimpier, etc. Also, she addressed the different "sides" of her personality with I Am...Sasha Fierce when she first told the world of her stage alter ego, aka Sasha Fierce.
She's said that when she gets on a stage, it's like she becomes a different version of her self - more confident, bolder, more daring, etc. i.e. Sasha Fierce. I do think there is an inherent shyness in Beyonce but I do think she has grown into a very confident and self assured woman as evidenced not in the skimpy and raunchy performances but how she handles her professional life.
Beyonce manages herself. And one thing I loved about the documentary was when it showed the ways she was so meticulous and clear and direct on what she wanted and how she wanted it. And it's one thing that's often repeated about her in the media per industry gossip. That is, she's a perfectionist and extremely serious about her work and vision.
Which is probably why we never got a drug and alcohol meltdown a la kids who start young in the business. Beyonce is incredibly focused and professional versus so many of these young celebrities who got caught up in the party lifestyle and all that mess. And all that I believe bleeds into the "badass bitch" persona she portrays on stage which is why I do think it is her, just a maybe more outrageous version of her.
Now I do agree about the referring to women as bitches and did comment on this a few times when the Beyonce album, particularly in reference to the song Flawless. The song quotes Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie's words on feminism and on one hand presents itself as an anthem to women to be strong and confident and love themselves but then it's also a statement of how amazing Beyonce is and us "bitches" need to bow down to her.
And it's like yeah, a little contradictory to be demanding women bow down to you as your show of "earning respect", while calling them bitches but then say the song is a feminist anthem. And that's why I don't worship at the altar of Beyonce and think the Beyhive is ridiculous because these are the things where I feel like she means well and it's good that she is trying to support and promote black culture but she has some ways to go regarding other social issues. But hey, no one's perfect.
I agree with a lot of this, but I think some context is important.
Unlike a lot of her contemporaries, Beyonce has never really taken a break. That’s a good and bad thing depending on how you look at it, but she’s never had to worry about a new crop of talent taking her spot, so to speak. Because she has yet to just go sit down somewhere.
Also, and I know she struggled with this so I’m not trying to be insensitive at all, but Beyonce had kids later than most of her contemporaries. To give it some context, Beyoncé’s oldest just turned 7. Britney’s oldest will be 14 this year.
Another thing, unlike many of her contemporaries, Beyonce married a rich and famous dude. That...matters in some obvious and not so obvious ways, but one way is that she can afford to bankroll many of her own projects on a large scale in a way most people in the industry couldn’t even if they wanted to.
And, as weird as it may sound, Beyonce being black is kind of an asset to her in a way it isn’t to most of her white contemporaries. With hip-hop being so dominant in pop music these days, it’s easier for her to include those elements in her music than it would be for a white artist. Ex: Migos wrote Apeshit for her sand Jay-Z and people loved it. Imagine a Britney Spears song written by Migos. Heh, now I wanna hear that!
But even they couldn’t help Katy Perry when they collaborated with her on “Bon Appetit”. So staying relevant is a tad bit easier for her in that regard.
You mentioned Ariana Grande. She does one trap-ish song “7 Rings” and people have been eating her up over it for months. Had Beyonce done that same song, there would be no Twitter maelstrom to weather. People would just turn up.
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Alright! Beyonce's Homecoming documentary. Let's talk about it.
First, the good.
SpoilerThe doc was very real in the behind the scenes parts. Especially showing Beyonce after she'd given birth and at dance rehearsal for the first time. The baby weight and not getting the steps right and all that...kudos to her for that. And the progression of her getting her figure back. The fact that she rehearsed with the band for four months, and then had four months of dance rehearsals...was crazy. In a good way.
I like that she doesn't talk crazy to her people. She's professional, a perfectionist, but...she doesn't come out of pocket. She rehearsed on her anniversary. She was very honest about how rehearsing and taking care of her twins with the breast feeding wore on her. Just the chronicling of the hard work was admirable.
The execution of such a production was great. Much props to all the dancers and musicians and crew involved. I liked that she's started to weave narratives with her own songs. I think she did "Sorry" and then did a bit of "Kitty Kat" from B' Day, almost like a freestyle, in the middle. That's a clever move.
Towards the end she included an audio clip of Maya Angelou and I gotta admit, it made me tear up a little. Something about Maya Angelou's voice breaks my heart in a way I can't really describe but just hearing her say when her work is finished, she'll be called home, and she isn't afraid...and to tell the truth, first to yourself, then to the children...ugh. I'm in my feelings now just remembering it. And even Beyonce gave me life when she said she wanted to inspire people to dream big and "if my country ass can do it, you can do it". I literally clapped at that. I had to talk myself out of joining the Beyhive-minati for a few minutes after that. But I'm just saying, I felt that.
Now for the critiques:
SpoilerBarely any of it was sang live. Don't kid yourself because some of it seemed "spontaneous", that was almost all tracking with space for her to improv. You could tell even from rehearsals. She talked a lot about dancing, you saw her rehearsing her dancing, but there was only like a half-second clip of her singing anything BTS. And like, I know it's about the spectacle, but she pre-recorded her vocals and committed to the performance. As a fan of live singing, it was disappointing.
I'm familiar with the HBCU/marching-band culture, and her saying she wanted to go to an HBCU when she was younger and that being part of the inspiration for the show, was cool, but I wasn't impressed by the Beyonce-meets-Drumline concept overall. Again, I understand it from a familiarity standpoint, but even with this concept, and as someone who is a fairweather Beyonce fan, a lot of the show was very predictable. I was sitting there saying "she's about to do Crazy in Love, now she's gonna do Formation, oh here are the twins so she's gonna do Drunk in Love, aaaand now she's about to do Partition". I even paused and said she's gonna end with Halo or Love on Top and she...ended with Love on Top. I was predicting way too much about this show I was seeing for the first time, Instead of trying to "blacken up" Coachella, I'll settle for being actually surprised first.
Which brings me to her guests. Loved seeing Kelly and Solange. Kelly has kept herself up about as well as Beyonce over the years, so she was pulling off the skimpy outfits great. She sounded good when she did sing, and she can keep up (no pun intended since they did "Lose My Breath" with the choreography as good as Beyonce. Kinda makes me sad her solo career hasn't worked out as well as Beyonce's because Kelly has been at this just as long. Solange ran out looking like a polar bear, but her Beyonce did a little dance and fell on each other and it was cute.
Old ass Jay-Z and tired ass Michelle, though. I mean, they just doused the show in wack juice. Michelle still has a hard time projecting her voice and can't dance, and I'm convinced only dudes from the NY tri-state area actually give two fucks about Jay Z.
To make my next point, first allow me post a recent picture of 48 year old Jennifer Lopez:
Yeah. I fear this is where Beyonce is headed. Beyonce is a beautiful woman with a beautiful figure. She, like J. Lo, has gotten to where she is to a big extent by being hot and working hard. But I've been saying for a few years that it's time for J. Lo to give The Ass a rest, and I mean exactly what you think I mean, and I mean exactly it philosophically as well.
There were a lot of long, lingering shots of Beyonce in skimpy outfits, as well as her dancers. She's always presented a strong, sexy aesthetic -- nothing wrong with that -- but it's getting a little old, kinda like she is (in the showbiz sense). The emphasis placed on her lusciousness throughout the show and that of her dancers just didn't go with her BTS comments about wanting to represent for people who have never seen themselves on that stage and to show people that having curves is okay. It's like, ugh, girl please. You've been clapping your ass and pussy popping to these same songs for decades now. And it's 2019. If you really want to shake shit up, wear some pants. And I'm saying this as a guy. I'd have preferred 3-4 more genuine vocal moments than 3-4 more sets of Beyonce with her ass out. Like J. Lo, it's time to give The Ass a rest. It just is. Although, I will say, even though she had skimpy outfits on the majority of the show, when Jay came out, all of a sudden she had on this big ass shirt, like something you might wear when you're about to go to bed. It was sparkly or whatever, but it was very random. I guess Jay wasn't going to have his wife looking like a hoochie with him on stage. Whatevs.
All in all, it was a good doc. Didn't move the needle for me. I still think Beyonce is very ambitious, very talented, and works very hard, but can be kind of ridiculous and basic sometimes and inspires a lot of ridiculousness and basic-ness in her fans, but c'est la vie.
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On 3/19/2019 at 11:17 PM, Bastet said:
R. Kelly always makes me think of poor Aaliyah, and my UO is that I never liked a single one of her songs I heard (which doesn't mean I actively disliked any of them, just that her music did absolutely nothing for me, song after song. I knew someone who worked with her (in fact, one of the other victims of her plane crash), and didn't hear anything bad about her, so it's not like I have any personal negativity coloring things; there was just something about her particular sound as a whole that never, ever did it for me. I didn't hate the songs, dislike the genre in general, or anything like that -- it was just this weird, specific thing where every new song of hers I heard, I had a well, don't care if I ever hear this again reaction.
I'll always have a sizable soft spot in my heart for Aaliyah, but from an artistic standpoint she didn't bring a ton to the table regarding her music. She had a thin, girlish voice -- somewhere between Mya and Ashanti -- but her talent was her tone cut through Timbaland's busy, intricate hip-hop beats. She had a very conversational singing style that worked for her material, but I can see why a lot of people wouldn't be impressed. I will say, her last album is a classic, and I think We Need A Resolution deserves more recognition in the pantheon of pop hits from the aughts.
On 3/27/2019 at 1:37 PM, Shakma said:I also preferred Monica to Brandy. I liked Mya, too. Moodring is still a good album.
Mya came out with a song called "Ready for Whatever" last year that I LOVED. It should be a hit, and it would be if she was backed by a major label. Ugh, guess who co-wrote it. Yup. R. Kelly.
And I'm sorry, but I've always thought the cover to Moodring was funny. Mya looks like she's about to take a sexy shit. No, seriously:
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On 3/29/2019 at 4:14 PM, proserpina65 said:This isn't really an unpopular opinion so much as a question: is K-Pop really so big in the US that it merits a double issue of Entertainment Weekly for one of its groups?
They're trying to make it a thing. BTS is a legit phenomenon -- not entirely sure why, but you can hear the good songcraft even without understanding the lyrics -- but they're trying and trying to make Blackpink happen, and I think there's a lot of money being passed around to do that. So I don't think K-Pop and a genre is as big as the media suggests. I think it's one act who caught on, so now they're hoping they can start a parade not unlike the Latin pop/trap thing.
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14 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:
People tend to overlook A LOT for money. Look at Mick Jagger: He just had freaking heart surgery and yet his latest gielfriend is pregnant or just had a baby. The guy is 77 with tons of other kids!
And look at the woman who married and had kids with 77-year-old Tony Randall before he dropped dead.
Looks and age tend to take a backseat when $$$$$$$$$$$ is in play.
Yeeeah, I hear you, but I'm still not rolling with the hot nanny and Harry boinking. In those examples there's a ton of money and also fame, so there's that "this guy could have a million women but he chose me" thing. Harry was a well-to-do, middle-aged attorney, with an attractive wife and two kids. And, on his face, not particularly charming. He obviously won Charlotte over while she was on the rebound, but I just couldn't see that happening. Obviously it could in a literal sense, but it wasn't such a possibility that Charlotte had to ruin her free luxury trip to Dubai by worrying about it because she was away.
10 hours ago, LemonSoda said:Unfortunately this is something SATC did with male characters that I only fully noticed after my first series rewatch a few years ago. I understand the need for plots, conflicts. But I don't know why the writers did some of the things they did with male characters that the more time passes it seems very sloppy. I can't see Harry doing something like that after all the pressure to get her to convert. The hairy back and embarrassing to Charlotte jokes in the Hamptons? Yes. But not watching baseball after she went through all of that for him.
Of course the Steve we first met was intelligent then turned in to a whiny, cartoon watching idiot. Big for all his money, power and charisma was acting like a tween obsessed with Carrie and hanging out in cheap hotels? Someone that wealthy would've bought a hideaway apartment or something and wouldn't care that a divorce would cost him a lot. Also maybe it's my age now but when I watch the show now I sometimes question Carrie's qualities, redeeming qualities, why the other women are so loyal to her and of course what makes all the men over the years so crazy for her.
9 hours ago, andromeda331 said:That's something I didn't notice when I watched as teen that I noticed when I rewatch the show as adult. There's a lot of sloppy writing. Why did they dumb down Steve? It was unnecessary. He was interesting when he was a bartender but read literature. They had enough differences between Miranda and Steve given their different careers. I liked the idea of Miranda falling for a blue collar worker. But they turned him into man child any time they wanted Miranda to break up with him. Its very jarring when in one episode their happy and Miranda's even happy to do his laundry and in the very next one he's driving her crazy and acting like a child. I can't see Harry doing that after all Charlotte went through either.
Carrie's really the hardest one to watch. In the beginning she was interesting. She had an interesting job, went to clubs and stuff. But she became obsessed with Big and did crazy things. Like stalking his mom and ex-wife. Those are crazy things to do. But they are never treated that way. Same with her need to push Big to commit and tell her she's the one when they haven't been dating that long. As the series goes on she gets worse treats everyone like crap. Its really hard to understand why Big keeps coming back to her. Its hard to understand why she still has friends. She's treated each one like crap and done things that most people would end a friendship over. But that never happens. For some reason Miranda, Charlotte and Samantha will always drop everything to run to Carrie to help her no matter how small her problem is. They never get tired of how she'd treated them or constantly turning the conversation back to her. Same with guys how does she still keep finding guys willing to date her? Wouldn't they have heard about her at some point and stay away from her?
I would have liked to see her break out of that too. I really thought we were going to get that with Harry. She tried hard to have the perfect life with Trey and it didn't work. With Harry it seemed like she was changing from that. Not putting so much stock in perfection. Because she grew, learned from her mistakes and had a great life. A husband who loved her, a beautiful apartment and two adorable daughters. But so much of her growth disappeared from the movies. Then again so did Samantha's and Miranda's.
So do I. For these characters and so many others.
Kudos to both of you. I said something similar on the old TWoP boards and I've definitely said it about Girls: these female-centric shows love to make male characters do things either a guy wouldn't do (...I know, but I'm just saying) or that guy wouldn't do based on his character thus far, just to make a point about the female character.
I don't see Aiden just breaking up with Carrie because she wouldn't marry him on the spur of the moment, even after he's bought her apartment and the one next door to make a home for them. I don't see Aleks inviting Carrie to Paris and then ignoring her for her two weeks while they install his stupid ass light installation. I don't see Big jilting Carrie, telling her, and then changing his mind thirty seconds later. It was just a lot of "let's make these characters do dumb shit just because".
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On 4/5/2019 at 4:09 PM, LemonSoda said:
Some toddlers whine, cling, throw tantrums, cry a lot for attention or due to frustration from not being able to communicate the way they want to. The terrible twos are terrible and can last a while. Each kid is different of course. I think Charlotte was just an overwhelmed Mommy dealing with a toddler that was more difficult than her first child.
I see. Even Charlotte being overwhelmed and needing a break — while living in a huge Park Avenue apartment she didn’t have to pay for, not working, and having a nanny — struck me as pat. I don’t know. It just seems like Rose was whooping her ass and not the other way around and that bothered me. They weren’t that stressed out. They had time to go to Connecticut for Stanford and Anthony’s wedding, so I mean...I don’t know.
On 4/12/2019 at 4:39 PM, libgirl2 said:I liked Harry a lot. And wouldn't someone who maybe didn't have a lot of money (especially in NYC) might want to latch on to a rich man? If there is a boatload of money, looks aren't quite as important.
Yeah, possibly. But even that’s assuming a lot in Harry’s case. There are plenty of well to do lawyers in NYC. The hot nanny had options if that’s what she was going after. And it’s not even just the attraction level; Harry seemed old enough to be her dad. It just wasn’t happening.
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58 minutes ago, longobongo said:
I don't agree that Meghan "has to defend Trump". This is still the United States of America - no one has to defend Trump. If what he is saying/doing is indefensible then you don't side with him. Just because the rest of the panel agrees on something does NOT make them "one note". It makes them of like minds on that issue. It's far too simplistic to say she has to defend him. No one has to do anything in this life--except die and pay taxes!
But that’s not in the least bit coincidental. I’m not saying from one conversation to another, they need to make it easier for Meghan, I’m saying when they have political discussions on the show, Joy, Whoopi, and Sunny are going to agree, because they’re liberal women. Abby isn’t confrontational like Meghan, even though I get why, so that leaves Meghan to make the whole case for MAGA Nation every day, because her cohosts are liberal hacks.
To be clear, I don’t find Meghan particularly smart or interesting. Even a lot of her points that she makes are kind of basic, but at the very least she’s not just spouting the GOP party line. I could put together a montage of her having differing opinions that aren’t lockstep with Republicans. I doubt I could put together five minutes of Joy agreeing with Republicans or praising a Republican President and she’s been on this show for 20 years.
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2 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:
Meghan does not have to defend Trump.
Not to go tit-for-tat, but this what I meant by my analogy. If you say Nickleback sucks, we can generally agree. If you say every song Nickleback ever put out was garbage, I then have to “defend” them by naming some of their songs that were good. Or go along with your absolute statement.
Meghan has to “defend” Trump because the rest of the panel is one note. I saw a clip from a week or so ago where Joy said there were no scandals under Obama. I literally stared at phone and went “woooooow...”. Even when the Mueller report came out and no charges were filed against after him insisting he didn’t collude with Russia, the panel couldn’t just admit that Trump was investigated and they got nothing on him, they had to sit and come up with every dumb reason to “withhold” judgment until the entire report comes out (which it never will). Joy said she felt Trump asking Comey to take it easy on Flynn was obstruction — then again she’s openly admitted she just wants him out of office — even though he wasn’t charged with that, either.
Meghan was the one who had to say maybe a Trump supporter should be sitting here because I don’t like him, but he said he was innocent and he wasn’t charged after two years. It is what it is.
Those are some examples of how she’s “forced” to defend Trump.
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4 hours ago, DebbieM4 said:
(Joy is not one-note, btw. She has discussed countless topics in all her years on this show, and shared numerous opinions about all kinds of things. She also knows how to have a conversation - how to joke, how to laugh, how to be serious, how to be informed, and how to be interesting. Clearly you don't like her, but she most certainly talks about many, many other topics beside Trump.)
2 hours ago, MsTree said:Not to put words in anyone's mouth, but maybe it was meant to say that Joy is one-note NOW. It seems like all her one-track thoughts are about "impeach Trump" "get him out of the white house" "bring him down" and so on and so forth. After a while, it's the SOS, different day.
Exactly. Joy has barely had an opinion beyond Fuck Trump in damn near three years. She’s entitled to it, but that does make her one note.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Meghan partially resented Joy for always making her be the Trump defender on the panel, even notionally, and that’s why she snapped at her.
To use an example to illustrate my point: it would be like if you were having a conversation about music with a friend, and they said, “that band sucks” and you generally agree, or maybe even kind of agree but you take their point. Then they say, “every song, every album they put out was complete garbage”. Now you might agree that the band is bad in broad strokes, but you wouldn’t be that absolute. So then you offer a slight demurral: “well, I do like some of their songs/one of their albums” and then your friend says something “oooooh, so you DO like them. After all, you’re defending them.”
See what I mean? It’s not about just giving her a turn to speak; Whoopi, Joy, Sunny, and Ana (when she’s there) sometimes do too much. Meghan doesn’t like Trump, and she has critiques of the Republican Party like they do. My point about respect is to say don’t always make her the milk in your espresso. Don’t always put her in the position to be the “well, actually...” chick. It makes her look contrary and argumentative and, well, bitchy. Some of that does come down to Meghan’s personality, but a lot of it is the dynamic of the show.
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9 hours ago, RHJunkie said:
I'm sorry but I'm not following this logic at all. This just reads as one big excuse for putting the onus on other people for how Meghan McCain chooses to behave. That is the crux of the issue. Meghan gets called a bitch regardless of what she says because the term bitch is applied to the way she ACTS.
You're saying Meghan's opinion deserves respect. It gets respect. That is demonstrated in the way we see her co-hosts concede time for her to make her points without interruption. It is demonstrated in the consistency of their professionalism regardless of whether they agree with her or not. There is absolute irony is that you're saying the point of the show is to have women with different views but then you say that her co-hosts should temper their opinions on Trump so as to not force Meghan into the spoiler role. Abby also plays that role as another Republican at the table and her interactions with her co-hosts are much more pleasant than what we see with Meghan. Both sides see each other as contrary - disingenuous to suggest that it is only the Republican side that is made to seem that way when the Republicans at the table do the same.
Now to be fair, I can't say that everyone would stop harping on Meghan if she only improved the way she behaves on the stage, but for me, that has been the biggest issue with watching her (and why I've essentially stopped watching). I've disagreed with many women on the show, both Republican and Democrat, and I have only taken issue with a woman on the show when they demonstrate unprofessional behaviour (including Joy and Whoopie walking off the stage during a Bill O'Reilly interview).
I don’t find Meghan to be any more pugilistic than her co-hosts, at least not naturally. I think she tries to be cordial because she knows her opinions are typically in the minority. And if you figure she’d probably be called a bitch anyway, it’s a hard case to say she’s being one from one from moment to the next.
They're not doing her a favor by giving her a chance to speak. She’s a cohost on the show. My point is a little bit more than that. If they understand the dynamic of the show, when it comes to political topics, they need to show her more respect by allowing for the fact that she can’t duke it out with them when they start spouting talking points. Just letting Meghan make her point is fair in a conversational sense, but the show doesn’t encourage respect of her POV because they treat her like she’s just there to fill a quota. On an individual basis I don’t think any of these women should temper their point just for Meghan’s sake, but when it’s three of you basically making the same point, maybe you should just to give the show some equilibrium. And again, allow some room for her POV to percolate, not just give her 20 seconds to speak.
9 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:Why should the rest of the panel hold back on how they feel? If Meghan doesn't want to defend Trump she doesn't have to. I've never seen Joy or anyone at that table go at her the way she goes at Joy.
As has been noted by a lot of other posters Meghan acted like a spoiled entitled brat and it isn't the first time. Her behavior indicates to me that the people in charge have no control over her and frankly don't seem to care. As much as I didn't like Barbara Walters sometimes she would not have tolerated this. She created a show that was supposed to be a show about women sharing different views. It has now devolved into a daytime version of the Real Housewives.
I saw that more in order to have a balanced conversation, not just people taking their turn. The way the show dynamic is set up, it appears as though they barely tolerate Meghan’s POV, so in turn many in the audience barely respect it.
7 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:That's not really surprising considering she burned bridges with the audience a long time ago. They're not going to start liking her after she's acted hateful, condescending, and disrespectful--not just to her co-hosts but to the audience directly--for over a year. I wonder how anyone could win an audience over that way.
I don’t agree with that at all. People give leeway to people they agree with. I don’t think Meghan earned the vitriol she gets at more than the other hosts.
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10 hours ago, General Days said:
Joy wasn't shitting on her point at all, and after listening to Meghan for 1:20, nothing was preemptive, because Meghan had already made her point.
What's interesting to me is that at about the 4:00 mark, Meghan flat out said, "How to deal with it (i.e. the 'crisis at the border') is where the conversation goes one way or another."
Joy was trying to do just that -- take part in the conversation. The show is The View, with five regular co-hosts (including the moderator position). It is not The Monologue with Meghan McCain.Joy wasn't even saying anything against Meghan's main points which were that (a) there is a crisis (she cited border apprehension stats, but I haven't verified them), and (b) that economy and immigration were Trump's two "meat and potato" issues.
Joy wasn't disputing there are problems at the border. She acknowledged that very thing. Her point was that the acting DHS is reportedly someone who thinks it would help to preempt refugees from coming here, by reducing the conditions in their native lands which have prompted them to seek refuge here.
As far as I can tell from watching daily, Meghan is the only co-host who regularly fails to be respectful of her colleagues.
Also, Abby is another conservative. Ana is too. Meghan is not the only one. There are plenty of days when Joy and Sunny are the only liberals at the table, and issue depending, Sunny can skew conservative.10 hours ago, film noire said:I don't agree Joy dismissed Meghan's point.
Joy validated that there's an immigration problem to be solved in her first comment to McCain (" Like I just said, this guy coming in wants to help those countries, that's the way to solve the problem, keep them there, happy") and John McCain's Daughter refused to let Joy finish making her point. Instead, Meghan needled Joy cunstantly throughout: "Give a Nicaraguan a house?" (to be fair, it's an amazing point, since we've got all these lovely cages on hand) and "We've had a bunch of liberal guests who don't want to send aid!" -- at which point Joy said "Hold on, I listened to you, let me just finish" -- and then Meghan tossed her ratty hair and shit the bed.
Just another day in the life of John McCain's Daughter: rude, unprofessional, petulant and ignorant.
7 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:Meghan literally got another co-host hired to agree with her and repeat whatever she wanted them to say (Abby). And regularly there is a third Republican on the panel (Ana). Meghan McCain is not outnumbered and she is not a minority or a victim.
Meghan’s not a victim or anything; I’m not saying all that. I’m saying I think the show needs to have more respect for the role she was hired to play.
First of all, Meghan gets called a bitch at least a dozen times a week regardless what she says. So the fact that she made a bitchy comment yesterday, to me, is neither here nor there. She’s never going to win over their audience regardless what she says so she might as well have some nerve.
I didn’t even like her comment — the idea that some people realized Kristjen Nielsen wasn’t the right person for the job means he’s taking orders from FOX News hosts is as hacky and petty as anything the rest of the panel said — but that’s why they need to show more respect for her opinions.
Meghan’s not some one note Republican who has to defend her party at all costs — she never has been. I’m saying the rest of the panel should respect that about her and temper some of their Fuck Trump energy. That way she isn’t always in the position to play the spoiler. Being a Republican should not be seen as “contrary”, especially if the point of the show is to have women with different points of view.
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1 hour ago, inkworks said:
Stuck up for herself for what? She’d had her chance to speak and it was Joy’s turn. Joy should be able to say what she has to say without being interrupted by that self entitled brat.
1 hour ago, General Days said:Except that's not what happened today, at all.
Did you watch the segment?
Joy was somewhat hopeful about Fräulein Nielsen's replacement.
It's also not what happened, because Meghan didn't smack anyone down. She acted like a 7th grader who got offended because she couldn't understand what the teacher was talking about.
Whoopi then put Meghan in her place (a little too diplomatically for my taste, but she's old, sick, and tired of McCant's shit, I'm sure).
I did enjoy Joy's face right after Meghan once again revealed how incapable she is of doing this job.
1 hour ago, tinkerbell said:Wow.
I didn't see anything close to that. I saw:
Meghan talked, a lot.
JOy started to give her opinion, Meghan interrupted
Joy asked Meghan to let her finish, said "I listened to YOU," (implying that now Meghan could listen to her).
Meghan said "part of your JOB is to listen to me."
SO, where and how was Meghan sticking up for herself?
I saw the entire segment. In my opinion the panel was pre-emptively shitting on her point, including Joy. It’s not this simple thing of everybody playing nice and waiting their turn to speak. I think Meghan was frustrated having to once again be the buzzkill to the Fuck Trump party. When she started speaking, I didn’t hear her put down anybody’s point, she just read her notes and said it was a big issue to people she knows, and then Joy had to offer a retort.
To me, they know Meghan is the token Republican on the panel, like Elisabeth Hasselbeck was. I don’t begrudge anyone their opinion on either side, but the dynamic is manifestly going to be 3-4 against 1. At the very least show some respect for Meghan’s opinion given she’s always going to be outnumbered. JMO.
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I’ll be in the minority and say I liked Meghan’s smack down. Joy is condescending and one note and doesn’t even try to have an opinion beyond “Trump sucks”. Not to get meta, but a lot of people are going to call Meghan a bitch regardless if she’s a sweet pea or not, so I’m glad she stuck up for herself.
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Yeah, Miranda had way more good vibes for her friends than Steve. He might’ve grown to resent her a little bit.
I just saw the second movie yesterday and I have a question. Well, several. For one, Charlotte said her youngest daughter Rose cried all the time. Rose was two, almost three. I don’t know much about babies but is that, uh, normal? Like, babies can be fussy and cry a lot for various reasons. But I thought by two they’re kind of coming out of that. Like, if a two year old is crying all the time doesn’t that mean something might be wrong. I don’t mean emotionally, but physically?
And also, can someone explain why it was such a big deal that Big suggested two nights off? I get why it wouldn’t work for every couple, but it seemed to me Bug was just being pragmatic. Carrie was annoyed by Big wanting to lounge around watching TV, and Carrie needed time to write, so why not give each other two days to do your own thing? Either that, or Carrie stop being so butthurt about the man wanting to chill.
And third, the whole “Harry might cheat with the nanny” storyline was beyond ridiculous. I’ve already said I’m in the minority who didn’t like Harry — smarmy, bare-assing white furniture, leaving tea bags all over the place, he can eat pork and sleep with Gentiles but when it comes time to marry he had to marry a Jewish woman, wanting to watch the game while having Shabbas dinner that Charlotte labored over — but to top all that off, I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but Charlotte ain’t nobody trying to fuck Harry but you. In fact part of the only reason you got with him is because he doted on you while you were on the rebound. I know the movie made the hot Irish nanny a lesbian, but even if she wasn’t, she wasn’t throwing it at Harry.
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The only song by R. Kelly that I really like is "Cookie". In fairness to me, I liked it before I realized it was R. Kelly. I think it was on one of the Magic Mike soundtracks and it got some airplay. It's a really freaky song that leaves, like, zero to the imagination, but it's well-produced. It sounds like an accomplished musician who is trying to do something for the kids, which it was. Plus, there are some pretty good YouTube videos of people dancing to it.
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Yeah I’ve never been crazy about R. Kelly, either. I think he’s one of those acts that was better than average in his prime and that’s all people remember.
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On 3/8/2019 at 12:14 AM, Medicine Crow said:
OMG, my "world" stopped when the intro of Kid Rock & Sheryl Crow came on the radio when I was at work. I loved, loved, loved that song!!! It was played on a "country station"!!!
Yeah, it’s a great song. And it’s one of those early songs that used snaps without sounding like a douche-y crossover attempt. It just worked as a light percussion accent.
I ask because the production of the song was soft rock (for those days...now it would be considered Country). Lyrically, it’s very Country. Kid Rock is a rapper who turned out to be a serviceable roots rock singer, Sheryl Crow is a pop singer, and even though Allison Moorer is mainly a Country singer, she’s pretty malleable. All that said, Kid Rick has mainly had Country girls sing that part with him (Jessie James Decker, Kellie Pickler, Gretchen Wilson, LeAnn Rimes, etc). And speaking to the radio format, when that song was out, they used to play it on Top 40 radio (where you’ll hear stuff like Chainsmokers, Halsey, Ariana Grande, etc).
Its funny that it’s so hard to peg that song, but that’s a testament to how good it is. I almost feel like Country music is full of mid-tempo numbers trying to recreate the magic of that song.
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I’m curious: do you guys consider “Picture” by Kid Rock and Sheryl Crow (or Allison Moorer, depending on which version you’re familiar with) a pop song, a soft rock song, or a country-pop song?
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All Episodes Talk: All Rise
in Judge Judy
I missed you guys too! I got burned out on JJ and the dog cases , but after a break I think I’m ready to join the party...just in time for The Ponytail.
So I’m gonna say I believe he did tell her she could work it off, and I’ll tell you why. His girlfriend seemed like the type who kinda doesn’t like giving head. She does it because she loves him but not, like, because she loves it, you know?
So he probably saw Hillary Skank farting around, several of her Fronts missing, and decided to see What That Gap Do in exchange for not filing a lawsuit. But Tom Skanks wanted to get paid on top of that, and given he’s already giving his girlfriend his BAH, he couldn’t afford it. So he sued that ass.
At least, that’s how it went in my brain.