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3 hours ago, Rap541 said:
Aren't we overworrying a little bit? Yes they're little people but as I recall, the poor child who got eaten by a gator at Disneyland was a)an average height child and b) had average height parents who evidently failed royally in minding their child. At last check, there's not a moratorium on average height parents with toddler sized kids moving to Florida since this tragedy and why is that? Because it was kind of a rare thing. My point? The parents involved were average height and the response to this tragedy was not to question whether all average height people with toddlers should consider moving from Florida due to the alligator dangers, and if its a concern for Jen and Bill, it should also be a concern for all average height parents in Florida. And its not. Because it was a freak thing that happened.
Please excuse me for going OT here. I get your relevant point that the height of the parents was not a factor in the horrific Disneyland incident. But I cannot agree that these parents were negligent, as their little son was just wading up to his ankles only a foot or two from his family as they all waited for a scheduled family night movie to begin. Since they were not from Florida, nor were there any warning signs posted about the presence of alligators in those waters – an internationally known family-friendly, man-made setting – these devastated parents would have had no idea that something so nightmarish and dangerous was even remotely possible.
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16 hours ago, Snow8585 said:
We did not see Zoey asking to take a toy home like greedy Will. His behavior is getting worse and worse. The producers can only encourage so much. Farty this Farty that etc. What is wrong with Jen and Bill and TLC? They should look at the camera and say STOP. Bill and Jen are producers???? In the beginning, their whole premise was to educate the planet on how little people live in a world designed for big people. Goodness gracious we are way off the rails now. And as for product placement, they have been doing this for years...JELLO, Manwich, Chloe Dao, Hunts. Endless. Total infomercial. Even the restaurants and stores they go to.
In the previous episode, when they were going food shopping, it was Zoey who wanted to go to the toy store instead. Bill said no and Will agreed, saying: “We already have toys.” So I wouldn’t say that Will is “greedier” than Zoey from what we have seen of them on the show. They’re both just little kids who occasionally will get the “buy-me’s”, (as my mother used to say about my siblings and me when we were children), especially in a toy store or other fun place like that. The main thing was that these two kids were so enthusiastic and thoughtful about choosing nice toys for other children who they understood were not as fortunate as they are, so even if Will did come out of the store with a modest little book for himself, hopefully the lesson of giving to others will always be part of this family’s tradition, just as much as decorating the tree together and opening presents.
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2 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:
Bill uses an opportunity each episode to talk down to Jen. This last week it was her cooking. Some men seem to get a high from doing that to their wives. I have found it especially notable in marriages where the wife is more highly educated than the husband.
To me it makes both of them look bad. Him for doing it and her for allowing it.
I disagree. In this episode, Bill (with his characteristic droll, understated humor) was trying to tell Jen that the flame under the vegetables was too high. He was right and she wouldn’t listen. Her expertise is not in the kitchen and she admits this. I never see Bill putting Jen down; in fact, he is proud of how accomplished she is in her profession and he has been this way from the earliest episodes right after they got married. I just checked out their wedding/honeymoon episodes on YouTube. These two intelligent, educated and very nice people balance and complement each other in the most fundamental ways (including his naughty “tossed salad” reference, lol), and I admire both of them and how they came together as a married couple and parents of two children with many challenges. Also, I do not agree that Bill is “deadweight” in the marriage and family, and that Jen is “saddled” with him. Jen would not have gotten through her cancer crisis nor Bill his back surgery without each other’s support, and especially when they were in the midst of adopting two children from two different countries with more than one challenging condition. Many other marriages would have crumbled in the face of all these crises.
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41 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:
On one hand, I understand Kim's obsession with her body and working out. As much as her and family want to remind the world that they are business people, their entire business is driven by sex. No matter what they do, no matter what they sell - their image will always be the driving force behind their relevance and business success. The rest of Kim's family have all used their reality TV show platform to branch into their own individual opportunities so it's also a matter of Keeping up with the Jones' so perhaps subconsciously they keep each other in check. On the other hand, regardless of what Kim's intent is, it's hard to be focused on your goals when you have friends who try to convince you that having fun and being YOLO is more important. Jonathan has already acted like a man child when he complained that Kim was spending too much time with her children instead of him so I can't really blame Kim either for ditching Jonathan in order to ease the transition of her strict diet. From what we've seen, I wouldn't expect Jonathan to be that understanding of Kim's motivation and goals. I felt for Kim at the table. I've been that girl before, lol. With all that said, I don't understand what Kim is trying to achieve with her body. The only parts of her that aren't big are the parts that she intentionally inflated with surgery...she's not going to lose that. Hopefully she's just focusing on upper body because to lose more weight in her lower body will only enhance her ridiculously disproportionate lower body.
As much as Scott is messed up, Kourtney and her family contributes to it. Why is she just sitting there when Scott is talking about be willing to have another child with her? You shut that down quick! And if Kourtney and her family are so concerned with Scott why do they continually allow him to film for this show? They have sacrificed his well being for their reality TV show ratings and tabloid gossip so it's a bit unnerving and disingenuous of how much they get on his ass about his behaviour but seemingly secretly revel in how his messiness brings attention to their family. Why else do you allow him to profit from the show and the drama? Co-parenting and respecting your child's father doesn't mean subsidizing him with a contract that gives him a public platform to feed his ego, make money and build his public persona which mostly presents itself in opportunities to host parties at clubs...because that's exactly where an alcoholic should be, right? I'm not blaming the family for Scott's decisions, but I do think they are guilty of knowingly giving him a platform that provides him with opportunities to be set back from his recovery. He would have no platform if not for them...so why are they still giving it to him?
Why? Because he wants it. He is just as greedy and mercenary as they are and willing and eager to be a well-paid storyline, even at the expense of the privacy of his own three children. Without the Kardashians, Scott would be an unknown, albeit with wealthy parents who spoiled and indulged him in their lifetimes. Scott is not a victim, nor he is a minor or mentally incompetent; Kourtney and her family are not responsible for his pragmatic and lucrative decisions or his demons. That’s totally on him.
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Dear Zoey,
You have an adorable hairstyle that brings out your beautiful eyes and also has worked well with the climate in your family’s home states of Texas and Florida. But the best part is that you have not yet had to personally concern yourself about hair salons, shampoos, conditioners, blow-dryers or what is currently in style (or “on-fleek”.) Do you even know what a “bad hair day” is? No? Well, you probably will some day and trust me, you will look back on these carefree days when you felt comfortable and looked so cute with no effort at all on your part. Enjoy!
Sincerely,
Your friend, VB (Having bad and even worse hair days for several months now).
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3 hours ago, carolinagirl81 said:
Khole is taller than Kim and Kourtney so maybe she won't blow up like Kim. I suspect that Khloe will be all belly.
And butt!
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16 hours ago, carolinagirl81 said:
Adorable paparazzi picture of little North with her cousin
11 hours ago, iwasish said:I love how Penelope has that same “no expression”expression on her face. She gives the paps nothing. So much better than the blank dead eyes Kim projects.
I don’t think Penelope consciously has a particular “pap face” the way Kim does. She and North often frown or look blank when they are bothered by the paps and that’s understandable, but it’s nice to see them with genuinely happy kid smiles from time to time. And those two little cousins are so cute together.
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1 hour ago, GaT said:
plus Kim’s
star powersex tapeFixed that for you.
Lol. Yep!
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18 hours ago, iwasish said:
But is she happy? I mean isn't that the important thing... happiness? Or Money? The more I see of Kris the more I think it's money. Money and Power. All her talk about family is so much bullshit. She's exploited her children, their privacy and their personal heartache for the almighty dollar. She brags about her kids having such a close bond.. but the reason for that is she's brainwashed them into thinking no one else can be trusted. Even friends, lifelong friends, have to sign non disclosure agreements. How quick was Kim, based just on a word from Kris to believe that Jonathan was selling her out? (Not that he wouldn't or hasn't). They have no one else to confide in. Kris even keeps their spouses/significant others out of family business. I recall Kim walking on eggshells over the Kylie/Kris/Kanye debacle. Yeah Kanye has mental problems, but Kris wasn't having any of it, no way was she going to discuss her deals with an "outsider", son in law or not. Too bad Kimmy had to try and calm him down and deal with his rants.
And after 25 years with Caitlyn, all the girls are so quick to side with Kris about how she wants to use them to get fame. Caitlyn has acted badly yes, but they have made themselves look like some all accepting, loving group, when it's pretty obvious despite spin from both sides, that they were not happy with the transition. Most likely from the angle that it affected the show. How quickly they excised step dad from their lives.
I would agree that Kris has brainwashed and exploited her children – but only the younger two, Kendall and Kylie, because they are the only ones who really were children when this show first debuted, and so had no choice but to participate. On the other hand, the four Kardashian offspring, all adults at the time, were fully complicit and eager to benefit from Kris’ superior managerial skills plus Kim’s star power, to build the mega-empire this family has become. And they have all benefited, handsomely. So they are not victims, IMO, no matter how many spouses, friends or partners have to fall by the wayside or how many personal life problems have been exposed; they are as pragmatic, ambitious and mercenary as dear old mom.
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14 hours ago, GaT said:
And this is the point where after ten years, any of them could just take the millions they’ve already earned and decline to re-sign if they were a) uncomfortable filming and truly preferred to live a quiet life or b) enjoying a thriving career of their own apart from the show. But no, they all rushed to re-up because all of them are greedy for the money and the perks, plus they need the media attention the show brings; it’s like oxygen to them: vital to their lives.
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5 hours ago, GaT said:
They need to have Scott on the show more, loved him calling out Kim for having her tits out.
WTF is wrong with Khloe & Kourtney, they’re supposed to be grown women, & they decided to shove chocolate up Kendall’s ass as a joke?
They need to have Scott on the show less, for the sake of his kids. Kourtney claims she doesn’t want her children to see their father in his supposed addicted state, but featuring his tired storyline and their never-ending relationship “drama” on national television year after year guarantees that the children will eventually find out every sordid detail. And Scott goes along with it. Is this show really that important to them? As for Kim’s boobs, I guess Scott hasn’t caught on yet that all the females in this family like to flash their nipples for the world to see. Why shouldn’t he have to suffer along with the rest of us?
I have never understood the lack of boundaries with the sisters in the family, especially with their questionable sexual antics. Maybe they think it's titillating or funny, but it just reads as weird.
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From reading the book, I didn’t get the impression that Bill’s father was a callous or deadbeat dad. Bill mentions that the 4-bedroom home was purchased specifically so that there would be comfortable space for the five boys, all of whom were close in age, and that his father had made sure the home was in his sons’ own school district so that there would be as much continuity as possible in their lives. He explained that on Tuesdays and Thursdays, he and his brothers would go directly from school to their father’s house, hang out and play with their stepbrothers, have dinner with the family, and then be driven home by 9 pm. He said that his father never missed a designated visit unless it was absolutely unavoidable, such as his unexpectedly having to work extra hours at one of his three jobs. Even though the stepbrothers may have had better or newer toys, I don’t think Bill or his brothers felt they were less important than the other two boys in the home, as he states: “Nobody was given preferential treatment even though Jonathan and James lived with my father and Debbie full-time.” Bill’s mother definitely struggled, as her husband had left her and she carried the major load of caring for her three sons and for Bill’s medical issues, but in the book, Bill states that after the divorce, his parents alternated in accompanying him for his hospital stays, and at times both parents and his brothers arrived in two separate cars to be with him as a family. This had to have been a tough time for all of them, but I believe that both parents did the best they could for their children under the circumstances, financially and otherwise. And in the end, adult Bill still seems to have a good relationship with all of his family, including his father, stepmother and stepbrothers.
Sorry for straying OT; just wanted to add a bit more background.
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1 hour ago, escape said:
I seriously doubt the kids are raking in it with those cameo appearances - which are all planned in advance - and the time required of them is minimal.
But your "source" are the tabloid gossip sites - and none of it has ever been confirmed. Some of these sites also said a few years ago that Mason was going to be a big part of the KUWTK storyline. Obviously that didn't turn out to be anything but gossip.
LOL. Isn't most all of our "information" about this family from gossip sites, paparazzi, or scripted storylines for the show?, because as far as I know, none of us knows them personally, and their goings-on are not exactly hard news requiring verifiable sources. I respect your opinion and I'm sure you respect mine as well. For now, we will just agree to disagree on our perspectives and opinions and just keep speculating...
58 minutes ago, iwasish said:I have heard her casually mention something or another to Mason or P, that makes me think they do have outside the celebrity circle friends, or friends that are part of TV or show biz, but more behind the scenes.
There was a boy on last nights show that looked like he might be a friend of Mason. They were playing while the girls worked out.
Her kids do seem used to the camera, particularly Mason. Kourtney said a while ago that P was uncomfortable with them, and therefore stayed back with the nannies while filming. She still seems more conscious of them than Mason, you can see her scoping out where the camera is when she enters the room.
I dont think she would force her kids to be on camera if they didn’t like it. I can see Kim pressuring hers as it doesn’t seem she takes any precautions to keep North from being filmed, even though North has clearly been unhappy when faced with cameras.
Mason does seems comfortable and even happy in front of the cameras, while Penelope seems shy and uncomfortable, more like North. If I were a celebrity, reality or otherwise, I would do my best to protect my children from unwanted public attention, as did Elizabeth Taylor with her daughter Liza. To this day, there are few stories or pictures of the very private Liza and this is because Elizabeth respected and understood Liza's need to live a non-celebrity lifestyle. It can be done.
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But for Kourtney the choice is not just between the public school system and home schooling, because obviously Mason and his siblings would be able to attend the most elite and expensive private schools out there, as do the children of many other celebrities. My understanding is that Kourtney wants the children available for whatever cameo appearances or vacations the filming scheduled requires. I’m sure her kids will be fine in the end; I was just wondering what is motivating her choices and how much she is following the path of her own mother in making those choices.
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3 hours ago, wallofsound said:
No, they aren't particularly expensive, but who in their right minds would want to accumulate that many? They have the money and the space for them, but it's so excessive. How much time could these kids possibly be driving these cars? They have other outdoor activities to choose from like the worlds biggest swingset, I'm sure. Mason at least is at school all day. I just don't get it and it obviously annoys me immensely. I'll move on :)
No, at almost 8-years-old, Mason has never attended school other than art classes, reportedly because Kourtney wants him available for their filming schedule and random vacations. I presume that he is home schooled, and clearly that is Kourtney's decision to make as his mother, a decision I assume she will also make for 5-year-old Penelope, who should now be in kindergarten. He seems like a bright enough kid, so I guess he's getting what he needs academically and hopefully socially as well with other children his age. I just wonder if Kourtney would have made the same choices for her kids had she not been caught up in the KUWTK lifestyle. To me it seems like a repeat of what Kris did by pulling Kendall and Kylie out of regular high school because of the demands of the show and other lucrative opportunities.
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3 hours ago, kerrieway said:
^^^^
I apologize, clearly I was wrong about what Shelly meant about point not being a big deal.
I don’t have a dance or cheer background or any real knowledge of the DCC culture, so I have refrained from giving an opinion here on the Jenna point position question and how appropriately or not she handled her “demotion” from that position or her punishment in general, nor do I even specifically know what she did wrong in the first place, other than social media rumors. But just being a logical person, I don’t think it’s possible to judge how important the point position is to Jenna, Kashara or any other DCC, past or present, based on what a previous or current individual DCC might say. Right or wrong, to Jenna it was that important and that is why she did what she did and now must deal with the fallout. #Life lesson learned, #Whole life ahead
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This was my favorite episode of the season thus far. I plain and simply enjoyed watching how loving, affectionate and bonded Will and Zoey are -- not only to their parents-- but also to their extended family – grandparents, uncles, cousins and vice versa, plus I enjoyed the baptism and how much it meant to Jen and Bill to be godparents. It was obvious to me that Will and Zoey feel loved by their whole family, and in turn were so caring and responsible for their little cousin, baby Nathan. I especially loved how they shushed everyone, including the camera crew, when the baby was sleeping. And then there were so many hilarious quips from both Will and Zoey, and Zoey’s facial expressions, which were priceless. I will leave it to others to speculate about Bill and Jen’s parenting approach and the children’s developmental progress. To me it seems that in spite of early history and ongoing speech issues, both of the children are curious and observant and ask good questions. For instance, Will was wondering what the jellyfish might have been thinking (after he had thought about how he might cook and eat them, lol.); he thought they might be thinking: “get me out of here!” Makes sense to me. One of my laugh-out-loud moments was this:
Bill, to kids: What do you like about Charlotte (meaning, Charlotte, N.C,) when they first arrived
Will: Who’s Charlotte?
Sometimes I just need a feel-good, laugh-out-loud moment, just as a diversion, corny as it may be. Don’t judge, okJ?
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20 hours ago, iwasish said:
I don’t follow their Instagram accounts, so my opinion is based on the show and their public appearances. Famewhore fits everyone in the family. From Caitlyn right down to Kylie. Is one worse than another? Probably but merely by degrees. I think I’ve looked at Kourtney with a different eye, because early on I do think she was participating more to work with her sisters. That goes back to when Kim and Khloe both wanted to dump DASH and Kourtney stated that the store was created for them to work together. They kept the store and I think to this day Kourtney is really the only one attached to it. I do think she would have been happy if the show had died after a couple of seasons. But it didn’t and she is still on, a willing participant. I do see signs though that she would be happier if it ended.
The others want to keep it going. The desperation in Kim and Kris, and Khloe is obvious.
Of course this is all just my opinion.
Only my own opinion as well: I think the whole family – and yes, that definitely includes Kourtney -- will suffer major withdrawal symptoms when KUWTK finally, inevitably, ends. It’s not just the big paychecks, endless free vacations and lucrative aka shilling endorsement opportunities, it’s the constant spotlight media attention and pap walks in their questionable outfits that they will miss because that is what defines and validates them. Every.single.one.of.them. I do understand that to some, Kourtney often has presented as being ambivalent about participating in filming, so accordingly, I would have thought that she would at least keep her own children off the show to ensure a quiet, more private life for them, far away from the tabloid life of their two parents. There have been other reality shows where one or the other parent has refused to give permission for their children to ever appear on camera. But then, without the kids and her Scott drama, what would her storyline have been? Not hating, just asking, just wondering what people think…
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2 hours ago, iwasish said:
Kudos to Kanye if he is working on his issues in private. I just found it interesting that Kim never mentioned him nor the children. And that instead of calling him for comfort in her anxiety, she calls Joe Francis. And of course plays it out on camera or full effect. How quickly those tears dried up.
Kris annoys the hell out of me with her constant trying to patch things up with Scott and Kourtney. Let Scott have his kids alone and do his own thing with them. Neither he nor Kourtney can ever move on if he is a permanent fixture at all things Kardashian. If they are to split up, then they need to create separate lives and let the children see that they are no longer a couple. It's only going to be harder on the kids when Mom and Dad move on to new partners and the co-vacations, etc end.
Exactly. Something tells me that Kris wouldn't give a crap about the Kourtney/Scott relationship if it were not yet another storyline for this show, aka a ratings ploy. Meaning...if KUWTK had not happened, would Kris even be keeping track of her daughters' men and relationships (unless the men involved were wealthy celebrities)? I think not. I always say that Kris has a bank vault where her heart should be.
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1 hour ago, iwasish said:
And Kourtney is so over Kims “trauma”
The family is now just throwing it in our faces that they have money to burn. The trip to Costco must have cost thousands for stuff that will never be used again. Kris with her fur pillows and cashmere blanket was so obnoxious. I think Scott really wanted them to have a regular kind of camping trip. Why not go to a local campsite and do it right? I was glad to see him take over and have the kids do the hot dogs on a stick and s’mores.
its times like that when you see the real love he has for the kids. That’s the Scott, Kourtney wants.
Did Kim even mention her kids or Kanye once? I didn’t hear his name at all.
Almost a year into the recovery from his mental breakdown, Kanye hopefully is more focused on trying to stay healthy than appearing or being mentioned on inane KUWTK episodes. It’s different for Scott, as a major source of his income is from being part of this show and seemingly he will be a willing cast member until the bitter end. And Scott knows very well that none of the Kardashian events, celebrations or trips are simple family affairs; the goals is to garner attention and ratings, not for family bonding experiences. But there is nothing stopping him from arranging a private camping trip or other outing for his children, minus the cameras and other fame whore family members. The kids would probably enjoy just spending quiet time with their father and Kourtney too, if the two of them are getting along. Kourtney may well be over Kim’s ongoing trauma narrative, but Kourtney’s own drama with Scott, his drinking, and his “hookers”, as she calls them, has been rolling on for years.
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13 hours ago, GaT said:
Eating lots of candy is a drug addict (like Lamar) thing, it makes you wonder if she's doing it again, doesn't it? Is Khloe enabling another addict?
That’s quite a leap to make, isn’t it? Tristan is a healthy, fit athlete totally focused on his career, especially this year, with the Cavs starting lineup changed so he’ll now be coming off the bench. He took the news well and is hoping to be “NBA Sixth Man of the Year”; he has made that his goal along with doing whatever he can to help his team win, instead of sulking or acting offended. What evidence is there of his being an addict other than Khloe’s stupid décor tradition of stacking jars with huge amounts of mostly junk food that no one should be eating?
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To me, the most hilarious part of this complaint is where Chyna is described as a stripper with “a reputation as a money-hungry, shameless, pseudo-celebrity.” Apparently Rob, Kylie and their attorneys are not familiar with the concept of irony, as this description could fit each and every one of the Kardashian-Jenners and their hangers-on as well. Not to mention that some of the ladies in this family have appeared in public and in selfies wearing outfits that would make a stripper blush.
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1 hour ago, carolinagirl81 said:
Mind blown over that article. But why would Kylie put her body through that, she doesn't seem to be that selfless, to be Kim's baby carrier.
Yep, I agree.
Kylie, the surrogate for Kim’s child? Seriously?? The same Kylie, who has spent many years and thousands upon thousands of dollars surgically perfecting her body in imitation of her idolized sister Kim (in Kim’s younger, hotter years) but yet who would now agree to undergo the physical changes and discomforts of pregnancy and childbirth (which Kim herself does not want to experience again) to then turn the baby over to Kim and Kanye? Yeah right! Who knows what young Kylie is thinking with this pregnancy, but surrogacy is surely not a factor. She doesn’t strike me as so altruistic as to help her sister have a third child, and she sure as hell doesn’t need the money, which would motivate some surrogates. Come on, social media people, get real!
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10 hours ago, escape said:
She's like Kim's mini me. So between the 2 of them and Rob the slob, talk about bad parenting.
Ironically, even though Scott has his issues, at least the Disick children aren't usually in the press.
I actually do see frequent (totally planned) paparazzi shots of the Kourtney/Scott kids, and they also appear on show episodes. In fact, out of all the Kardashian grandchildren, Mason is the only one who seems to enjoy and thrive in the spotlight, always smiling and smirking when the cameras are on him. I think that’s unfortunate as it’s not a normal life for a child.
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Season 14 Talk
in Keeping Up With The Kardashians
Pomeranians tend to be yappy, feisty, lively dogs, but so tiny they may not be suited to families with small children such as Kim’s and Kourtney’s. A little research on Kim’s part would have told her that. Still, I didn’t see North being at all rough with Sushi, just playful. It would be a shame for her to lose the dog she so much wanted, just because her mother sees it as nothing but another disposable accessory, and not worth investing in for ongoing behavioral training for the dog as well as lessons for the children in how to interact with this particular breed of dog.
Kourtney did the same thing when she got rid of Mason's Bengal cat, Charli, because she decided it wasn't suited to be around newborn Reign. I don't think anyone in this family has the least idea what it means to commit to a pet -- a living, breathing creature -- and this is what they are conveying to their children.