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15 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:
Even the oft quoted "stain on the family" thing, while not a great turn of phrase, was Ridge speculating what the media may say if the scandal broke out, not his personal opinion. He mentions the tabloids calling Brooke a tramp for it. The coversation happens within the first minute of the following clip:
Thank you for this. This scene plays very differently than what's been quoted here. And it's followed by "I love Hope." Big difference. Also shows the world of difference between RM and TK. I can't imagine TK ever being this gentle and kind when disagreeing with Brooke. Hell, he's blustery, loud and aggressive when they're not at crossed purposes. Damn. You don't appreciate what you have until it's gone.
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Grown woman Hope needs her mother's and her husband's approval to have a relationship with her father because she's been infantilized her whole life. Recall how Brooke sat in on Hope's therapy appointments (which she needed after she had sex with Liam despite her very public abstinence proclamations). Brooke, likely out of guilt, has over-mothered Hope at every possible turn. None of Brooke's other children received this much coddling, meddling and interference. And Hope's child-like need for approval about how to live her own life is the result.
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As between the two of them, the person who behaved abominably in the Brooke/Deacon relationship was Brooke. He was into her, loved her, was passionate about her. She reciprocated those feelings, albeit she was a bit torn given his marriage to her daughter. As soon as Ridge became available*, Deacon was inexplicably villified, by Brooke no less, and told to leave town.
Glad Hope pressed her mother on these issues today. The slow unfolding of the conversation led me to believe Brooke wasn't going to own up to the very legitimate shame she should feel at bedding her daughter's husband. Brooke even tried to push some of the blame for the affair onto Ridge because he "wasn't around" but Hope shot that down saying he was married to Taylor at the time, i.e., that's irrelevant and no excuse!
*Thanks for the reminder CountryGirl!
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Eric sucks. His response to his (current) woman's exasperation and anguish has always been a bemused smirk followed by a figurative, and occasionally literal, hand-wave. He never takes these conversations with the seriousness they deserve. Someone mentioned this upthread but being with Eric must be the worst.
So now is he going to tell Donna he wants to be with her just as a drunken Quinn has an accident with a recovery that require Eric's constant care and attention?
Swell.
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So Katie and Carter are going to come together to form the most boring couple ever. Snoozefest Powers activate!
And after the fire that was Quinn and Carter. Shame.
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If Katie can keep her sourpuss demeanor locked away tightly and if she can bury her Debbie Downer bit deep underground, and if she can not be her normal annoyingly insecure self, then maybe, maybe she and Carter might be interesting.
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If this show tanks Quinn and Carter? In favor of Katie and Carter?
Well, I guess it will be just another in a long line of dumb, unsolicited storyline reversals.
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16 hours ago, Black Knight said:
B&B really missed the boat by not having the recast Hope enter via the Lily Snyder twist of having married a hot guy while overseas.
I barely watched that show and I was shocked when Lily returned with Damian. That was awesome. And that storyline reverberated for decades (?) until the show was canceled. It really is time to employ that plot twist again. Surprised it hasn't been done since.
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One of the problems with Paris (I suppose, more accurately, the actress) is that she is terribly awkward and has no real screen presence. Her physicality is so unsure and she comes across like a soft-spoken fifteen-year-old girl. Makes her hard to watch.
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Liam sucks, to be sure. But this "my way or the highway" stance of his seems pretty out of character. He's never been a lay-down-the-law kind of guy. Feels like crappy, plot-driven writing.
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Loved Quinn walking out while Brooke was mid-screech.
Exactly what she deserved.
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Whoever upthread called this SL leading into a larger question of Eric's judgment and Ridge's resulting efforts to take over FC was right on the money. Feels like that's what's about to happen. Katie may have compassion for Eric and stick her nose where it doesn't belong and side with Eric. Ridge and Brooke will have no choice as it'll be for the "good of the family/company".
And you just know, despite banging Quinn repeatedly and betraying Eric, Carter is going to be asked to "draw up the papers".
Dumb show.
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11 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:
Hell, there are people who STILL haven't accepted Amelia Heinke as Vikki and she's been in the role longer than HT was!
(I haven't accepted Peter Bergman as Jack Abbott. "O.G. Jack" Terry Lester all the way!)
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Where is Katie getting all this "us" business when talking about Eric? "He's not telling us everything". Us? Really? If Eric isn't sharing with his family, why do you think he owes you an explanation?
Generally speaking, the Logan Girls (TM Gross) are looking rather damaged with their fixation on Eric. Yes, your father abandoned you but Eric is not your daddy. Yet they seem to be manifesting pretty clear daddy issues with all the tongue-bathing and over-involvement in Eric's life. How they can they can go on about this octogenarian whose relationship with them started when he dated their mother sixty years ago is beyond me. How two of them could marry their mother's former love is even weirder. Please make this stop.
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Where Brooke has zero room to shade Quinn is the subject of cheating on Eric. While married to Eric, Quinn had a fully-clothed fling with Ridge and slept with Carter. But Brooke cheated on Eric by having sex with his son, resulting in uncertain paternity of her child. Brooke wins.
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Carter cares about Eric so he was being as gentle and discreet as possible in rejecting his proposal. That's respectable.
What I wish he had said, with his whole chest, was "Eric, I truly feel for your condition and the pain you must be feeling. But let me be clear. I will not be a sexual substitute for you or anyone else. Quinn and I share a very special connection that is between the two of us alone. And our physical relationship is only a part of that. Eric, make no mistake. I love Quinn. And if I can't have all of her - mind, body and soul - I will suffer without her."
Then, watch Quinn leave with Carter without a backward glance.
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Here's my take on shirtless Carter as "beefcake". First, that term has been used indiscriminately for decades, most frequently about white male actors. But second, and more importantly, LSV is in the best shape of any man on this show by a factor of about ten. If this is supposed to be "Love in the Afternoon" for the ladies and some fellas to enjoy, he's about all you've got. Any hands raised for Wyatt or Ridge or Eric to be shirtless? Also, Pierson Fode used to be shirtless pretty often when he was on. And, of course, original beefcake RM's Ridge was shirtless quite a bit. It might not be the best look because Carter's Black but I understand it.
As for the Mandingo sex trope, that's not speculation. It's simply fact. And there's no escaping that's how this looks right now. At least as of Friday, Eric was pimping Carter out to satisfy the sexual needs of his wife (who didn't ask). If Eric presumes (again, as of Friday) that he and Quinn will have a romantic, loving marriage and Carter will only be used for sex, that's racist. Yes, if all parties were white, it wouldn't be racist but that's because it wouldn't have centuries of this very disturbing history.
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I absolutely cannot believe this show is going to make Carter Quinn's stud and Eric a cuckold. Actually couldn't care less about the second part but the former has to be some of the most tone-deaf grossness, with horrific racist undertones, I think I've seen on this show. Is Eric going to watch too? I mean, really? This is beyond disgusting.
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How is Paris supposed to be any sort of romantic love interest? Around Finn, she's just so ridiculously awkward. She just looks like a fifteen-year-old girl crushing on her (much) older brother's friend. And we're supposed to think this could be threat to Steffy's marriage? Gross.
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15 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:
Even if it had been Liam I could get it, they're two do-gooders (or fancy themselves as such) with "values" or whatever the fuck, but Finn's only personality has been essentially a living Ken doll for Malibu Barbie.
Paris is trying to swing for the fences like Ken Griffey Jr, but she barely even understands T-ball.
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I understand Paris is a social worker by training but she's just out of college. Why in the world would anyone listen to her counsel?
And potentially pairing her with Finn? Ugh. He was more compelling in his twenty-second insurance commercial than he has been in hundreds of hours here. And Paris is about as sexy and appealing as a damp mop. Together, they are negative sexy.
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3 hours ago, sugarbaker design said:
I know B&B specializes in males that are totally lacking in testosterone like Liam, Wyatt, Finn and Zende, but the show desperately needs a hot young guy, like a young version of $Bill, and I don't mean his milquetoast sons.
These guys are testosterone-free. Zende's wanting to take things slowly and driving all the way to Malibu to timidly hold hands and get a light peck on the lips? Do the writers not have any idea how young, twenty-something men really behave? It's like Liam a decade ago being really, really attracted to Hope's "goodness". What?! That's not how young men work!
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5 hours ago, Waldo13 said:
Ridge, you accusatory ass hole. Maybe Finn’s father knew something about Shiela’s association with the Foresters but how did he know that Finn would fall in love with a Forester? I’m still in the mind that thinks Finn’s father is Finn’s biological father. Of course Shiela has a dark history but no Forester, in good conscience, can cast the first stone.
A little dramatic Stuffy? How did Shiela take anything away from you isn’t your mother still alive? Did Shiela keep her away from your wedding?
These Forresters are a blighted bunch but Sheila is in another class altogether. Ridge has every right to jump to conclusions about the apparent shadiness of Sheila oh-so-conveniently being Finn's birth mother. She does have a history of long cons and this is right in line with those. But Ridge backed off both Jack and Finn when he realized they were as surprised as he was.
And, given Taylor was immediately and secretly whisked away by Prince Omar (that was this "death", wasn't it?) right after she was shot, and held for years thereafter, Steffy does have some legitimate beef with Sheila.
Finn took a while to finally read the room but, once he did, his reaction shots were pretty spot-on. I'm also amused that he looks like he could be the biological child of either of his mothers.
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I've watched this show from the beginning and 9.5 times out of 10, whenever there's an affair, the woman is the party deemed to be at fault. The blame almost never attached to the man who, frequently, was married or otherwise entangled.
But . . . but . . . in this particular, specific instance, I can see why everyone is quick to blame Quinn and absolve Carter. Quinn has a history of doing very bad things, e.g., kidnapping and raping Liam, making out with engaged Ridge while she was with Eric, and otherwise scheming and troublemaking. Carter, on the other hand, has no strikes against him. Mostly because he's been a simping milquetoast for most of his run, but nevertheless, practically saintly. In most characters' minds, Quinn = bad and Carter = good. So, of course, their affair is all Quinn's fault.
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B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
in The Bold And The Beautiful
Strolling down memory lane with all this talk about the O.G. TOD, I'm struck by how much this show actually got right back then. Casting-wise, anyway. KKL, RM and HT were straight-up beautiful. While none of the three were great actors (by any stretch), they all brought something to the table that made them compelling.
Brooke and Ridge (RM) were . . . apologies . . . unforgettable. When Katie was insecuring about Brooke to Carter saying she's the woman no man can ever forget? Yeah! I didn't snicker or sneer as I would have if it had been said about just about any other actress/character. But KKL is pretty and has a flirty, charming nature that, coupled with a soft, sexual allure, makes her irresistible to men. It makes absolute perfect sense that Brooke is the object of every man's desire.
Similarly, RM's Ridge was ridiculously handsome and had a charismatic presence that, along with a light romantic charm, made Ridge the male Brooke, i.e., the man every woman wanted. Even Macy was pushed toward Ridge in the beginning when Sally purred "that's a man right there."
And HT? Was beautiful. She had a type of calm, serene beauty that made her interesting and attractive to every man (inclduing the whole male side of the Logan family). If Krista Allen hasn't messed with herself too much, she'll be what HT would have been had her acting not become crazy histrionic and had she driven past the plastic surgeon's office.