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It's conversations like this and T'Kor's attitude/approach to being on the block and campaigning to save herself - which is to say none at all because she really believes she is safe - that have me 100% relishing and anticipating with glee the blindside Makensy wants to happen with the vote later today.

Insofar as Chelsie is not currently making a push to keep T'Kor. I agree with the others who expect her to make at least one more soft try again before the live show.

No one ever likes anyone rolling to the end once jury sets in. We'd be complaining if Brooklyn had survived instead of Chelsie and was running things right now.

Yeah, I sort of hope she does try one last time tomorrow. Makensy's already showing she's not entirely with Chelsie and I think if she did get another push to save T'Kor from her that it would cause her to quietly break from Chelsie. Anything that puts Chelsie in jeopardy next week is fine by me.

Chelsie is going to have to choose - either T'Kor or Makensy. If she burns Makensy on this then she will probably lose Makensy to Leah & Angela. And I wouldn't be surprised if that results in both T'Kor & Chelsie being on the block next week should Makensy or Angela win HOH.

So she says. I tend to think that's probably the truth, though, but she may just be covering her bases and not giving Kimo any game info. Didn't she still pitch a girl's alliance to pretty much every other woman still left yesterday & today (including T'Kor)?

Nah, it's perfectly okay for T'Kor to be blatantly pro-POC. I really hope Cam circles back to Leah and she reiterates to him that T'Kor wanted a GUY to go up in Kimo's place, so, no, she wasn't referring to Makensy or Chelsie. Duh. Even if T'Kor didn't say Cam's name, she made it abundantly clear she wanted him up as the replacement.

Based on what Cam said to Leah a couple days ago and what he's saying to Rubina now, I don't think he's really as misted by Chelsie as she believes. Same with Makensy. Would he directly target Chelsie at this point in the game? Hell no. Would he be perfectly open to someone else targeting her and seeing her go? Surely would.

Couple of things... 1) Hopefully no one gives any firm direction to Kimo about how the vote is going to go until and unless he is fully downloaded and understands just how hard T'Kor was throwing him under the bus to Leah - even then, I'm not sure he'll see the light and they'd all be better off not giving him any clear idea where their minds are at on who to evict lest he go scurrying to T'Kor to warn her because I'm seeing some softness on evicting her from Chelsie and Cam (less so Cam, but definitely not trusting Chelsie yet). 2) Angela or Rubina needs to win HOH - we know they'll both go for the remaining trio. Hopefully Chelsie and Mak really do think they're in a good enough spot with the rest of the house to evade the block regardless of who is HOH and will try to throw it. Kimo would probably also target them but who knows where his head is at right now. I think he'd be more open to Angela & Rubina since he doesn't seem to have much of a game relationship with Chelsie, Mak or Cam, but I worry he'd focus on Leah because she got T'Kor out.

It will be interesting to see if Rubina does indeed talk to Kimo today - hopefully the DR will pull T'Kor in for a long session and Rubina can get a chance at him, and Chelsie as well since I don't think I've seen any reports that those two have conferred about this week's eviction. If not Rubina, then definitely Leah. My guess is that both of them are waiting until this afternoon or this evening to have any conversations with Kimo in order to reduce the chances of T'Kor learning that she's the one going home.

To be fair to Rubina, she was interested in a "girls' alliance" before she hooked up with Kimo & T'Kor about 3 weeks ago. T'Kor is the one who has been pushing the POC agenda, IMO - at first it was "Chelsie and I had an unspoken agreement to protect each other until jury..." and she's slowly morphed that into being completely disinterested in working with the non-POC HGs. Had Rubina not become a solid third to T'Kor and Kimo then I think she'd have been open to working with Leah, Mak & Chelsie - not so much Angela because Angela was CRAY-CRAY with her paranoia for a long stretch there. Once T'Kor's gone, I think Rubina would definitely want the F5 to be all women if possible - though she may have enough loyalty and a strong enough bond now with Kimo to move beyond that.

It's going to be interesting to see if Leah & Angela try to turn Kimo against T'Kor and download to him how she was throwing him under the bus to Leah prior to the Veto Ceremony. Angela has done good work today repairing fences/clearing the air with Rubina. I still think Cam would turn on Chelsie if the opportunity presented itself. He won't do it himself, at least not with other "targets" in the house like Rubina & Kimo, but if Angela or Rubina wins next week and Chelsie is on the block on Eviction Night, he's either doing his level best to campaign for himself or he's voting to keep Mak for so many reasons, lol. There is still WAY too much time left before Thursday to be in any way confident that T'Kor's getting the boot. We won't know for sure until we see/hear from Chelsie tonight or tomorrow morning.

Ehhhhh... I don't think Chelsie has been in as good of a position as T'Kor for the last several weeks. She certainly wasn't in a good position a week ago when she was HOH. She sprayed Leah hard with mist in order to keep herself safe from the block this week, but she could have easily seen the block without that effort. Which is where T'Kor finds herself now because 1) she didn't put in the work to build any bridges with Leah since 2) she felt like she was safe and could throw one of her minions under the bus if necessary. Luckily, Angela at least saw through that and reinforced that to Leah. I think it's a toss-up and Leah's fine getting T'Kor out this week. One way or the other, the head of one of the Trios had to go this week and she's looking good for accomplishing that goal. At this point, given the number of comp wins Angela has, I think her odds of winning HOH are at least as good as anyone else left in the house not named Leah, and I have no doubt that Angela WILL target Chelsie next week - the only thing stopping that from happening will be Rubina engaging in a bitter pity party and making everyone else in the house want her following T'Kor out the door. Cam's already hinted to Leah that he'd be okay with Chelsie going sooner rather than later. He won't want to be the one to knife her in the back but he'd do it. My concern is that Chelsie may be able to mist Leah into voting for her to stay, but this week has already proven that these HGs are capable of recognizing and evicting the biggest threat to their own games going forward - hence Tucker, Quinn & now T'Kor getting the boot when the opportunity presented itself.

Ehhhhhh... I'm praying for an Angela HOH next week. Neither Chelsie not Cam have made HER any promises for safety and it will go a long ways toward smoothing over any lingering illwill Rubina may have toward her if she doesn't see the block and chooses to go after anyone else. Of course, that may not happen if Rubina continues to live her angry pity party the rest of this week with her anger directed at Angela for using the veto on Kimo. It would be easy-peasy to put Rubna up on the block next to Cam and call it good - until she has a chance to BD Chelsie.

Nahhhhh. Angela will talk sense into anyone willing to talk to her at this point, like Mak & Leah, and probably Cam. Aside from that, I think Chelsie is smart enough to recognize that getting T'Kor out IS the best move for her game. I don't see these dolts being swayed, though they may all choose to keep the decision to save Rubina quiet until Thursday since it's so hard to conspire and game talk in the backyard. Why, it's almost as if BB wanted to see T'Kor out this week with the Jankie Week.

T'Kor in her Audrey era.

T'Kor is big-time sulking. Chelsie, Angela, Cam, Kimo & T'Kor were sitting on the edge of the hot tub and she was dead silent, playing with the rubber duckies and not engaging at all in the idle banter going on all around her. It would be glorious if there was a cam focused on her sulking entirely.

T'Kor is back! Mak is sitting with her on the edge of the dance floor. Stop the madness, Button Boy! Enough with cutting to fishes!

Chelsie is asking the house whether or not you can see planets when you're looking at the night sky. Sigh. Has she never heard of "the morning star" aka VENUS?! And Mak told her you can see Mars because it looks like a red, bigger star. And now we've gone to bunnies, then fish. Which I may be okay with because I'm not sure I can handle these HGs not remembering basic astronomy they should have learned in 5th grade! Oh, now we're back. Leah & Chelsie are speculating that the next HOH could be the Days comp and reviewing their days.

@30 Helens - we both caught different pieces of the convo that are important, so not a complete jinx! I'm sooooo here for T'Kor's reaction whenever the DR releases her - gotta think that's where she is, lol. The real question I have is whether T'Kor will assume that she's actually safe and has the votes to stay and "mmmhmmm" her way through the next few days not bothering to campaign. I'd really love it if she was hoisted on her own petard and blindsided even though it was obvious to everyone else, including the rest of the HGs, that she was getting evicted.

Chelsie told Leah - "if I win next week, and I don't know if I'm going to try, then I'll protect you" - lololol - so, she's admitting she's going to throw HOH??? She deserves to go. She probably won't, but she deserves to! Leah's downloading to Chelsie how T'Kor pitched a "woman's alliance" which Leah knew was not her "thing/idea" and started throwing Kimo under the bus, and then tried to pitch that both of the guys were more of a threat, and basically that T'Kor lost all credibility with her. And, apparently, T'Kor threw the last comp - Veto? - and that really pissed Leah off - "I wish I could be that comfortable every week." Yup.

Okay, trying to pay attention to both camera views - Mak/Rubina - "I'm trying not to be a quitter, but it's hard to do it up there against someone I love" - I think T'Kor has been nommed - based on what Rubina is saying and her absence from the backyard right now. Chelsie/Leah - "I feel bad but everyone had three chances this week... HOH, veto" Chelsie says "twice", then Leah agrees and continues - so, what was the third chance since she clearly meant HOH, Veto and something else. Leah telling Chelsie "I kind of told her last night, if it gets used then whomever is next to you should be more worried" which confirms T'Kor was nommed.

Just turned on the feeds - Angela, Makensy & Leah are hiding out chatting in the carnival booth. ETA - they just panned to a huge portion of the backyard and now Makensy has wandered over to Kimo & Rubina. Chelsie, T'Kor and Cam are nowhere in sight. I think I heard Cam reacting to Leah throwing some balls at the carnival booth. Rubina just told Angela "I'm not ready now." So, she's clearly upset at what happened during Veto. Cam is talking to Chelsie and she's telling him that his actions don't line up with your words with regard to why T'Kor doesn't believe something about him/whatever happened.

Uhm... Your math is very confusing. 1) It's only 8:57pm PDT/BBT, and 2) we don't fall back to standard time until Nov 3rd.

LOL. I've got second-hand embarrassment for Chelsie, watching her low-key jealously rage at Cam. Granted that was pretty bold of him to slide his cot up in between Makensy & Chelsie's cots and to front like it was purely for cover for any potential rain, but oh my goodness, Chelsie, guuuuurl... This may portend a crack in Chelsie's Trio, though. Mak's already said she wants to vote out T'Kor and I'll be curious if this little dustup pushes Cam & Mak into holding their ground on voting T'Kor out and seeing through Chelsie's attempts to flip them into voting out Rubina. It certainly won't help Chelsie down the line when Cam's given the opportunity to vote her out - he's 100% going to be on board with that when the time comes. It would be nice if he and Leah confabbed again before the Veto Ceremony and he made the bold move of trying to convince her to put Chelsie up alongside T'Kor. As it is, I'm totally fine with T'Kor going this week, if it does happen. I loved it when Taylor came back from the dead and the horrid bullying and won, and while I didn't love the Cookout, I understood their purpose and I appreciated the way they each had their sidepieces and how that alliance operated, so I was fine with them going to the end the way they did. T'Kor, on the other hand, annoys me to no end because my perception of her motives is that she's a calculated operator. Sure, I think she 100% believes in the concepts of systemic racism & misogyny within western society - and if championing the righting of those wrongs gets her further in the game and brings her sustainable knitting/crocheting online business attention and helps grow that into a profitable enterprise then she's more than happy to be that "good person" in the BB house who other like-minded people in the real world want to support. "I want to be a good person, have a good story..." Perhaps it is terribly cynical of me, but I see her motivations for her game moves in the house as not nearly as pure-intentioned as she is presenting them to be, especially to the other HGs. And I think that most of them are too conditioned, in this day and age, to push back on that "I just want to tell a good story" BS lest they be unfairly charged with being racists or misogynists (and she's made it clear her priority is Women of Color then POC which puts Makensy, Leah & Angela in the highest danger spots within the house right now and a big part of why I don't think Leah's wrong to prioritize getting her out instead of Chelsie), they're playing a similar game with regard to their online/social media brand (Rubina), or they really have struggled with hate and hurt because of who they are and they can't believe that T'Kor's motives aren't entirely pure (Kimo in coming out to family & friends). I think Chelsie, and Cam to a lesser extent, see right through T'Kor's game. Cam wouldn't mind seeing her go - he knows she's coming for him eventually and would choose Chelsie & Rubina over him, in that order. And that leads me to actually preferring Chelsie over T'Kor if that's the choice. Chelsie has shown no inherent preference for POC over all other HGs when it comes to her ultimate endgame - which is getting to the F2 and WINNING. If that means she cuts T'Kor, Cam, Rubina or Kimo at F3 so that she can sit next to Angela, Mak or Leah because she believes her chances of winning the jury vote are higher next to those last 3 then that's who she takes. If her choices are T'Kor, Cam, Rubina or Kimo - wanna bet me she takes Kimo or Rubina instead of T'Kor or Cam? Chelsie wouldn't give a damn about your race or gender if it gets her the win. I'm down with that. I'm not down with T'Kor's game - because it's not really a "good story", it's really about crafting a narrative to the public of her being a good person who is championing the cause of POC and women - and if that benefits her online knitting/crocheting business venture, gosh... "thank you so very much, folks, for believing in me and my purpose and cause in life!" Blech.