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On 8/9/2022 at 2:21 PM, Chaos Theory said:
Even if Kim never goes to jail this confession clears Howard of being a drug addict. Even if his body is never found which Kim says is probable since the only people who know where he is buried are dead.
But won't the DEA find Howard's body? IIRC at some point in BB Walt destroyed all of the evidence inside Gus' meth lab, but of course the two corpses buried under ground should've (or at the very least plausibly could have) been found.
Of course there was no mention of this in BB due to BCS being a spin off, but it could come up at the finale. The DEA should be able to identify Lalo and - with the new intel Kim just provided - the John Doe as Howard
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17 hours ago, LiterateDog said:
And we'd not have a marvelous show to watch, but that's neither here nor there. Because nobody's watching "Breaking Good" or "Better Call Jimmy". ;)
If "Breaking Good" is about Badger and Skinny Pete doing their Star Trek stand up, I'd 100 percent watch the hell out of that.
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18 hours ago, chick binewski said:
I think the implication that Walt turned Saul's life sour bugged me. Chuck, Howard, the demise of HHM and his marriage all happened well before Walt. Idk, maybe Saul is resentful that Walt caused his anonymity.
I think Gene is just mad that Walt blew everything up with his recklessness and megalomania. Saul had a good thing going, playing by his own rules, having the time of his life and apparently immune to legal consequences. Or at least that's the way Gene sees it.
17 hours ago, thuganomics85 said:Still not sure of this potential spin-off though. They really think the creepy dentist from Seinfeld can headline a gritty crime drama?!
Even if he can, I couldn't care less about that character. If it's good, I might still check it out, but because of the talent involved, not the BB/BCS connections.
17 hours ago, Cthulhudrew said:I'm still disappointed that Mike's storyline, that Jonathan Banks has so profoundly, empathically captured these past few seasons, seems to be just getting shuffled to the sidelines for the finale (I suppose the writers felt that his coda was adequately captured in Breaking Bad's final seasons? I disagree, and I still think JB should have gotten an Emmy for his S2 performance).
Agree about the Emmy part, but as much as I love watching Mike being Mike, his story has been told. There just aren't any unanswered questions left, at least for me.
Overall, I quite liked the last pair of episodes. But the show has imo peaked in the last season with Chuck. After that, it's been mostly moving the pieces along to where they need to be. Sometimes in absolutely brilliant fashion and always way better than most of TV, but the big climax of the story of Jimmy McGill was two seasons ago and while there was (and still is) plenty left to tell, it's pretty much all epilog.
It's unfair to compare this episode to BBs third to last episode, because that was the climax of Walt's story, but, like Gene, we just can't help ourselves.
Anyway, looking forward to the last pair. Especially because we're now finally post BB, so we don't know jack. All we know it's not going to be a happy ending, the last minutes of this episode have made this abundantly clear.
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Okay I did not expect Dany to goll full on bonkers like that. What was even the point? The city has fallen, what did she want to accomplish? I could've taken five minutes less carnage for an explanation on what the hell her motivation was. Or is she just completely bananas now?
I really liked the Arya/Hound parts (no surprise). Arya walking away from Cersei so she could be the angel of life was a nice almost-ending to her journey. Of course, this being Game of Thrones, everybody died anyways, so it was a gesture I guess?
Jaime offing Euron felt natural, the fight a bit less so - Euron should've kicked Jaime's ass easily. But I'll take it. Jaime and Cersei dying together like that wasn't how I pictured it, but I liked it. Felt like an ending that made sense for Jaime, although a bit rushed (that's more on last week's episode though).
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6 minutes ago, SallyAlbright said:
I never thought I'd be so disappointed by this show. The descent into cartoonish "Mad Queen" territory for Daenerys does not really feel earned, nor do I buy into the idea that Jon wouldn't want revenge under the same circumstances. This idea that she is too strong for him to rule together but that somehow makes him the better leader seems a little confusing and the whole thing reeks of "Telling" not "Showing" for me.
Dany didn't really work for me this episode either. She's hellbent on rushing to KL ASAP, when Sansa clearly has a point - all of the armies need some rest and reinforcements. Cersei isn't going to go anywhere, so take a week or two and then go at it.
But it isn't really unearned, they've hinted at this stuff for seasons now - at least it doesn't come out of left field. But it did feel a bit rushed, it just should've been more gradual. There was plenty enough stuff in this episode for two regular sized ones, maybe that would've given them more time.
3 minutes ago, ShellsandCheese said:So who set Dany up? How did Euron know exactly when they’d be headed back to Dragonstone?
A fleet shouldn't be too hard to find and it's not like he has anywhere else to go, so they can just camp out there, wait for signals from their scouts and then get in position.
The only problem I have is that they've now gone twice to the Euron surprise attack well. But I guess there just isn't any other way he can be used if not for these kinds of attack.
2 minutes ago, bluvelvet said:I don't even know what to think right now..woah!!
But Kings Landing is going to burn based on the look of Dany's face..
KL is going to burn no matter what, that was pretty much inevitable. The only question has always been, who's going to light it up? Cersei or Dany? Looks like the answer could be both.
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2 minutes ago, ShellsandCheese said:
This episode just solidified my love for the Unsullied. Easily one of the MVP’s of this episode, along with Arya and Melisandre. Everyone had their part to play, but if you remove any of those three it is game over for Westeros.
Not sure about Melisandre. She was pretty awesome and made the episode look a lot more spectacular, but the Dothraki were cannon fodder even with burning swords (visually stunning cannon fodder, but still) and the lighting up the moat bought them a couple of minutes at best. Okay, she did give Arya the idea to kill the NK but again, that was more for the audience - Arya is hardly so dumb that she couldn't figure out to maybe try and kill the enemy they've lured into a trap?
So for me, Mel is still on the MVPs, but more because she had scenes, less because of her actual impact. Other MVPs: Theon, last man standing in the courtyard, succumbing only to the NK himself after a last heroic charge. And Arya, of course - other than her killing the NK, she also had that great Resident Evil style trip through the crypts, which was a great scene and also gave us a slight breather. Game of Thrones, where sneaking through your undead ancestors counts as breather.
8 minutes ago, Ladyrain said:Let me just say: I love this show. Addicted to it. But I have nowhere near the level of knowledge, understanding and background that most of you have. So I ask a question: Last season, didn't Tyrion have a 'secret' meeting with Cersei after Dany, Jon and the dragons showed her the wight? Do we know everything that they actually discussed? Did Tyrion know that Cersei was not going to be sending any armies to help in this battle? Whose side is he really on? And I ask this as a fervent Tyrion fan. I do not want him to be deemed a traitor. Right now my head is still spinning after this episode and I can't think straight.
I don't see it. Could he betray her? I guess. But for Cersei? Why? What could he possibly gain that would lead him to do that? Most likely, those signs are simply to show (inner) conflict that has to be resolved, not foreshadow a huge plot twist.
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8 minutes ago, Lady S. said:
Now that Arya is the Nightkingslayer, I find it unlikely she'll get Cersei too. That should be Jaime's job, else I don't see why he got to survive.
I don't see how Jaime could get close to her now. She even sent Bronn to kill him. Best guess is once again Arya, she just needs a good face. Qyburn or Euron are probably the only ones that won't have to fight their way through to her, and out of those two Qyburn should be a lott less heavily guarded and easier to reach. And it can't be Bronn, because Jerome Flynn and Lene Headey won't share any scenes.
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1 minute ago, Jextella said:
I dunno. It seems there has been too much emphasis on the NK over the years to have this be the end of it. Plus, we have 3 more episodes to go, and I can't imagine they are all about battling Cersei. And if the others can take out the NK, taking out Cersei should be an easy task. In fact, when Jon first meets Dany, Davos says as much.
Cersei's antics seem anticlimactic after what we just saw. Is she stronger, more evil than the NK that we need 3 more episodes of her?
Bran is still alive. I'm thinking/hoping there is more we learn about Bran's role/story in the next few episodes.
I just don't see how he could be even harder to bring down and he needs to have one weakness. I can't imagine there's going to be three episodes worth of fighting Cersei either. We'll get one transitional episode next week, one battle episode where Cersei goes down and then one hour of hugging (and boy are we going to need that).
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4 minutes ago, Sharper2002 said:
I have mixed feelings about the AotD being killed now. Although that battle was pure mayhem and there were considerable deaths, I feel like Cersei is the weaker villain. Or I just don't think she's that smart or cunning.
I'm also surprised the Night King went out so easily. Not taking away from Arya, but I guess I just thought it'd be harder to take him out since he's eight thousand years old and bringing the darkness was his life's work...so to speak.
Cersei is easier to defeat than the NK (at least in that regard she's the weaker villain), but even though most named characters made it out alive, I don't think there's much of an army left. Some Unsullied, very few Dothraki and a bunch of Northerners. So I think the challenge should be there.
The NK gave them one hell of a fight. Not sure how much harder to kill he could've been. Maybe dragonglass also doesn't work, but then how do you kill him? He kind of had to shatter once stabbed.
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7 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:
I have questions.
Why must battles always be in the dark on this show? Daytime battles would be suspenseful, too, and easier on the eyes.
Why did Jon and Dany hold their dragon runs until so far into the battle? By the time they started spraying fire, they were hitting as many of their own guys as the zombies.
Why didn’t they make a moat around Winterfell? They knew white walkers can’t cross water.
Did Gilly die? I saw a woman being dragged away that looked like her, but couldn’t be sure, because: see question 1.
I also thought I saw Bronn die early on? Or was that someone else?
WHERE IS GHOST??
This one had to be in the dark. Not being able to see much of anything was a feature, not a bug - the characters had the same poor sight, only being able to see what's charging at them at the last moment. But the next battle should be in daylight, like the loot train battle.
Yeah Jon and Dany could've started a bit earlier instead of sending the Dothraki. In hindsight, the Dothraki should've been parked somewhere south, the battle goes exactly the same and Dany still has them that way. But I loved the visuals of them charging in the dark with their flaming swords, only to killed off in seconds.
A moat? You'll need a huge freaking moat so the NK can't just freeze it. And where would you get all the water? You can't cook that much snow because there aren't nearly enough pots.
Bronn? Edd was the first one to die trying to save Sam. I didn't see Bronn at all, he probably had the best seats in Westeros.
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1 minute ago, CletusMusashi said:
I disagree a bit. I think the NK took forever to stand there thinking about how cool he looked, and how even cooler than that he was for not making "cool" puns like "Ice see you, Bran. There's snowbody that can save you now," (even though you know he's time to think of a zillion of those things,) before he decided to slowly, dramatically pull his sword out and do something. That's why Arya won. The NK disregarded his primary objective. Arya did not.
Now all I need is someone to fanwank why the giant wight decided to pick up and slowly one-handed crush Lyanna instead of just stepping on her and moving on. It was a very satisfying payoff, and it made me take back absolutely everything I've speculated lately about the possibility of her just being a loud rich kid with delusions of mightiness, but the setup on it was a tad wonky.
Well, the NK could've hurried up a bit, kill Bran - and then still get yanked by Arya just the same. It's not that Bran was controlling the living.
There were a couple of implausible things (Jon not getting killed in at least two instances among them, same as Dany surviving surrounded by wights after Drogon stupidly sat on the ground and let himself get climbed), but overall not so many as to ruin the immersion. The giant letting himself get killed was indeed a bit wonky, but I'll take it.
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4 minutes ago, BitterApple said:
Regarding Bran, can he just be useful for a frigging change? What's the point of having all these visions when they can't do jack shit to help the cause?
I guess he can't influence people and events around him too much or he's risking changing too much and he told Tyrion last week something - afterwards, Tyrion was a lot more hopeful in the fireplace scene. So I take it that Bran has seen the outcome and is just trying to lay low and not mess things up by telling people too much.
Same goes for the writers, the more they let Bran do the more they can mess things up logic wise. So best let him sit around and talk in cryptic sentences.
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5 minutes ago, sweetcookieface said:
Forgot to say, I was never a Melisandre fan, but I found her death at the end surprisingly affecting (esp after being one of the MVPs of the battle).
I was suprised she didn't have a more spectacular death, but I agree, that was very well done and a great way to end the episode.
6 minutes ago, Brn2bwild said:We still don't know what those spiral symbols mean... and there are one million fresh bodies in King's Landing. Jon may be the one who finishes off the Night King yet.
They're just the symbol of the Children of the Forest, there doesn't appear to be any deeper meaning, other than the NK using it to mock them. What do you mean by finishing off the NK? He shattered and his entire army went down with him, Sauron style, he's gone for good.
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12 minutes ago, ShannaB said:
I will say that I am a bit disappointed that the Knight King was killed so soon and so easily. I wonder if Bran was able to block the Knight King from seeing Arya sneak in for the final blow. Smart girl with her design. I was oddly pleased to see Dany effectively fight like she did.
There really only were two options - Jon in a more drawn out fight or Arya by stabbing him from behind (or above in this case). And the latter just has to be quick. I also don't think I could've taken any more fighting, so I'm A okay with it being a short scene.
7 minutes ago, MVFrostsMyPie said:I want to know where Gendry and Thormund are.
I think Gendry's okay. Didn't see him alive at the end, but I didn't see him him a terrible spot either. Should be okay. There was some with a beard like Tormund being raised by the NK, but I don't know if it was him.
2 minutes ago, UNOSEZ said:I don't get all the ragging on Jon... The plan was to ride the dragon... Lay down cover fire until the NK shows up and try and kill him... More or less that's what they did... The NK brought the frost winds and it was hard for Dany and Jon to see so they got lost.. But when the NK and Viserion showed up Jon attacked.. He fell off and attempted to go after the NK and he raised more dead... Jon( with help from Dany) got away from some of the wights and was making his way thru all sorts of mayhem( including leaving Sam to deal with his own fight) to get to Bran.. But he got pinned down by a dragon... Not sure what y'all wanted him to do about that...
I always suspected that it would be Arya or Jon to Kill the NK... Mainly because I assumed( correctly) that Dragon fire wouldn't do it... So it would have to be up close and personal... And based on what I had seen those were the two... Tho if I'm honest I thought Aryan would have put on the face of a WW and get the NK that way....
That was exhausting and amazing... I can't even watch the other shows I dvr'd tonight... Ima just be up reading comments.. And watching Arya Kill the NK over and over until I hit the bed...
Next week we better get a real Jon/Arya convo.. Shit everybody line up to thank/talk to the real Lady of Winterfell ( tho I am a Sansa fan) the princess who was promised Arya Azor Ahai
Totally agree re: Dany and Jon.
As for Arya: I half expected that she had to kill Bran and take his place to jump the NK. But thankfully the old hiding in a tree trick did the job. Still, kinda weird to have Bran survive - now that the NK's dead, the 3ER doesn't have any purpose any more. But I guess it just means he can be Bran again.
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14 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:
I thought Jon was the most useless this episode. Well besides Sam and the people in the crypt who admitted they were useless. At least Dany tried killing the NW with her dragon fire.
12 minutes ago, dirtypop90 said:Can someone explain to me what the hell Dany and Jon were supposed to be doing? I guess they got the Night King off his dragon. But it was off to me that Jon’s little sister was fighting for her life, the other totally unprotected in the crypts, theon’s watching his little brother, and he was having a joy ride.
Dany did pretty much what she could do, fly around and light wights up. What else could she possibly do? Jon was trying to kill the Ice Dragon and staying alive in the meantime. Oh, and in his usual Leeroy Jenkins style even tried to take on the NK. Hardly a joy ride. He also duelled him in the air, so I'm not sure what more can be expected.
10 minutes ago, Brn2bwild said:At one point he was weeping. Is Gilly dead?
Some girl got dragged under the tables shortly before the end, but I don't know if it was Gilly. But I didn't see her make it out.
Boy, we're still counting the survivors half an hour after the episode.
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21 minutes ago, NeenerNeener said:
Now I understand why the cast is bitching about that being an absolute death march of a shoot. I think I read somewhere that it took 58 nights to film that sucker. Did Jon's dragon survive, or not?
He went MIA once he crashed, so I assume he's dead, but he could be just badly injured. I would've expected Drogon to die of the two, mainly so that Dany is now doubly fucked in that Jon has the better claim and is the only one who's got a dragon. So I guess that conflict will be pretty much solved by a) the North accepting Dany after all she did for them and b) Jon still not wanting it anyway.
21 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:ETA: anyone else have to change TV settings twice to get a good visual? This was so freaking dark
Watched it on my monitor, but yeah, it was dark. But I didn't mind, the important stuff had good lighting and it was pretty effective that you had to guess what's coming, even when it was so close you should've seen it, so that was great for immersion.
18 minutes ago, Traveller519 said:I'm.... Not sure how I feel about the Night King already being dead. On one hand it was the overarching theme of why we were telling this story, hence the prelude. On the other hand, we're all fall more invested in the political drama of the seven kingdoms.
In either case. Incredible episode! We were all invested the whole way through
The political drama was more or less over once Cersei took the Throne, it was just her vs everyone else. So I was definitely more invested in that part of the story. But I'm sure the last couple of episodes won't suffer, Breaking Bad did have to terrific episodes after Oyzmandias for instance.
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10 minutes ago, ShellsandCheese said:
Not all. But probably most.
Yeah, a couple Dothraki came running back along with Jorah after that disastrous first strike (I thought they would've managed to kill a couple thousand wights at the very least, but boy were they worthless). What's-his-face was among them, but died inside WF and was raised later.
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5 minutes ago, Lillith said:
The two I didn't see were Podrick and Ghost did they make it? The Dothraki are wiped out and the Unsullied too. Wonder if the other Northern houses will take up arms against Cersei?
I haven't seen Podrick for while, but I guess he did. No idea about Ghost. By the way, where the hell was Nymeria? I absolutely expected them to show up. But I guess they barely would've made a dent anyway, only added some wolfs to the NK's army.
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Jesus Christ that was fucking INTENSE! I'm just totally floored right now.
For all the carnage though, the death count was thankfully less severe then expected (of named characters, there is, the body count was easily in the thousands, not counting those who died twice). Edd, Beric, Theon and Mel were pretty much telegraphed. I didn't see Tormund in the last twenty minutes or so,, did he die? Greyworm also lived unless I missed it, but probably only to fall victim to Cersei. But that's another battle for another week. Edit: Forgot Lyanna. I expected her to die, but she had the most glorious death of them all. Of course she wasn't going to have anything less. And Jorah, had written off the Mormont's last week already it appears.
Arya killing the NK wasn't a huge surprise, but I totally loved every bit of it. Nice callback to her sparring scene with Brienne.
Was that the best episode of the show? Hard to tell, but it certainly was the most spectacular and I can't imagine they're even going to try to top it the remaining three episodes. That's the only bummer really, that it's almost over now. But what a wild ride. Or, in Bran's words: You're a good show. Thank you.
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19 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:
I really don't understand their aversion to the direwoves. I get they decided to forgo Jon's warging abilities, but Ghost is still important, so they can fuck right off with that.
I'm sure they're looking forward to killing him off.
Wolfs are just more expensive to animate than dragons - the fur is apparently extremely hard to get to look photo realistic (you have to animate a lot of individual hairs or it won't move like it should), no such issues with dragons. Still, they did in the earlier seasons so it can be done. But I guess B&W are saving up their wolf FX budget for the fight scenes, and only have a cheapish version in the background for normal scenes. But there are going to be no excuses next episode, Ghost needs to be featured and I'd expect Nymeria to show up as well.
18 hours ago, UNOSEZ said:So.. This is the episode where Aryan gets pregnant with the future monarch of the 7 kingdoms... Gendry gets fully named a baratheon.. By Jon or Dany... Maybe posthumously(sp?) And the baby being king Robert and Ned Stark's grandbaby everyone left alive do what they can to keep it and its mother safe... Arya rules as queen regent until it comes of age.. Jaegon Stargaryen is named hand of the queen.. Sansa stays in the north
Interesting thought for sure. But I guess that's way too far into the future for the show to even tell us stuff like this, maybe Bran if he survives in the epilogue but even that seems like a stretch to me. I'd guess they're going to stick with something more visual and maybe show us a pregnant Arya. Not sure I like the Arya ruling part though, mainly because I don't think she'd even want it. But it would probably be a very bittersweet ending for her, so why not?
16 hours ago, QuantumMechanic said:Has show or book ever laid out how long someone has to be dead to not be able to be zombified? Or is there just no limit?
I'd say it depends on whether are any bones left. If all there's left is dust, what's even the point from the NK's point of view, dirty up the floor a bit? A bit of googling tells me that bones can decay over a couple of decades or stay largely intact over hundreds or even thousands of years under ideal conditions. And the cripts of WF probably qualify as pretty good conditions, so I'd say it's absolutely possible.
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24 minutes ago, LilaFowler said:
Dany's whole thing has been that she's the last Targ and the rightful heir. Not sure why Jon chose that moment to inform her that he's her competition. Let's face it, he's never been smart. Bless his heart.
As someone said in the book thread, the NK's arrival forces Dany to deal with other stuff first and process this news along the way. Jon probably didn't intend it that way (although he probably also expected her to take it a bit better I guess), but it's probably a good thing Dany got interrupted before she could say something that's hard to take back.
5 minutes ago, Popples said:I think it's the fur. I remember Pixar talking about how difficult it is to make any type of hair in CGI. But, yeah it's odd that they can make fictional animals look so great, but ones based on real animals don't look right.
It's definitely the fur. I think they have to animate a lot of individual hairs to make it look right, especially when there's movement and that costs a lot of time and money.
I think it's perfectly logical that fictional animals look better - we just don't have a picture of a real dragon in our head to compare it to.
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17 minutes ago, FemmyV said:
Dany and Jon - at first I thought it was a truly wrong move, to tell Dany the truth, going into the battle. On second thought, though, letting her go into war against the NK with that knowledge allows her to process it in the background and put the most important thing up as a priority.
Good point. I have no idea whether that was intentional or not, but it was probably a good thing Dany couldn't say a lot.
Fantastic episode, just lots and lots of great scenes. Next week is going to be brutal enough, this was just what everybody needed.
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9 minutes ago, CeeBeeGee said:
I just loved all the moments. Lyanna with Jorah (sadly, I feel we may have seen the last of her--I just worry that she is angst-bait for the writer.
Yeah I won't be surprised (shocked, maybe, but not surprised) if we're going to see her in wight form at some point next week.
6 minutes ago, Love said:The look on Dany’s face when Jon told her the truth.....yikes.
Makes you wonder whether the rift between them is going to be deeper than expected. Of course she wouldn't take it well, but I didn't think she'd look almost hostile.
5 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:Would Dany really kill Jon so that the Iron Throne stays with her though? That's the question. If so I have a feeling Emilia Clarke is going to get some hate-fanfic for the rest of her life ...
I can't imagine she's going to go full evil and do that. But this won't be solved in one episode it appears.
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Just now, sumiregusa said:I really wish I could unsee everything I just saw. It was that bad.
Huh. I loved it, just the perfect quiet before the storm episode. So many great scenes, felt almost like a stage play. If everybody were to die next week, it would've been a great swan song.
Well, maybe except for Dany and Jon, uh, Aegon. They clearly have some stuff to talk about, but I guess that'll have to wait. Winter is here.
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S06.E12: Waterworks
in Better Call Saul
It's possible Kim doesn't remember the address and has no idea who Gus Fring is, but the cops know Saul was involved with Walt and Walt with Gus. So they could connect the dots and start digging (if they haven't done it long ago), though it's not guaranteed to happen.