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8 hours ago, The Ringo Kidd said:
Maybe they can misdiagnose each other.
They need an episode where each of them contradicts a Doctors diagnosis with their own stupid theory and by the end of the show they stab each other to death with tongue depressors because Nataloon is afraid of weapons.
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23 hours ago, mommalib said:
Voight is a piece of trash with a badge and if there is any justice him a most of his team with the exception of maybe Atwater should end up in jail. You can insult Goodwin and Boden all you want but at the end of the day they got their people's backs and they aren't actively a negative influence on their subordinates. And Goodwin ins't the first authority figure to give the people under her a long leash, isn't that what Voight is doing with Haley right now?
No, actually right now Voight is literally transferring her out to a no nonsense federal agency to get her head back on straight. Not only does he protect his people, but he does attempt to fix them for their own good, even when its uncomfortable. Not unlike sending his son to the military.
I didn’t insult Boden, I like him for the most part. But Goodwin is unbelievable. She doesnt just give her people a long leash, she’s a civilian hospital administrator that has her people in her office for repeatedly breaking legal and ethical guidelines and more importantly, puts the hospital in tremendous legal jeopardy and does nothing, ever. She sure doesn’t try to get the staff to change their ways, that’s for sure. She seems like a nice lady and all, but she should have been fired a million years ago and apparently won’t be until the hospital loses that massive lawsuit that she allowed to happen.
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3 hours ago, mommalib said:
Voight is nothing but a thug with a badge and he's a horrible influence on the people under him with Haley being the prime example. Look at the other Chicago shows and both Goodwin and Boden would lay on the tracks for their people too but there is a lot that separates them from somebody like Voight, I'll save my admiration for people like them.
Goodwin? OMG, there isn’t a more incompetent excuse for an administrator on TV. Every Doc under her commits ethical and legal breaches every single episode and when they end up in her office she gives them a stern talking to and threatens to take one of Natalies cookies away (but doesn’t). What a laugh. What is it about Boden, an OK Fire Guy and Goodwin that’s deserving of admiration by their subordinates other their ability to walk all over them?
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5 hours ago, iMonrey said:
It looks better here. But I imagine they are trying to make her look professional - fire department personnel have pretty strict dress codes. Stella's hair is very unrealistic, for example - she would either have to have it cut above the collar or else kept wrapped up in a tight bun.
It does look better there. Even during this episode, it was more styled and less helmet-esque.
On 3/26/2020 at 1:18 PM, minamurray78 said:I still haven´t recovered from ER´s Love´s Labor Lost and that was over 20 years ago.
I hate this type of storylines. I would rather put up with Brett and her mum´s sugary convos than this outcome.
That one of the handful of Tv episodes I’ll never get over. Right up there with Bobby Simone dying and that guy who was stuck in the subway on Homicide.
Oh, that “Time of your Life” Green Day song episode on ER too. The 4 episodes I’ll always remember.
On 3/26/2020 at 10:10 AM, WinJet0819 said:Super Severide to the rescue again. Once again, he does the triple, as Squad lieutenant, arson investigator, and cop. Investigating drug overdoses and now helping solve a murder case. Why was Adam even there, since we all knew only Kelly was going to stop the murderer?
Why was there a need to kill off Julie? She was actually pretty good and generally wanted to in Sylvie's life. Sylvie was happy to get to know her birth mother. She was worried when the other shoe might drop, and it wound up dropping hard. And now the baby will wind up growing up without knowing it's mother. I hope they don't use the baby as a way to force Matt and Sylvie together.
I can’t stand the Severide the Wanna Be cop routine, it’s just obnoxious. They need an episode where his impersonating a police officer routine gets an innocent killed.
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On 3/26/2020 at 10:00 AM, WinJet0819 said:
I now firmly believe the writers on this show don't know a thing about character growth. Ethan continues to make judgements on patients without knowing the full story. Will continues to think he knows what's best for a patient despite their wishes or directives. Natalie continues to think she knows more than other doctors and is almost always proven right.
And we've been seeing this stuff since Season 1. And we're in Season 5 now. It's the same ol' same ol' with these characters and it's getting tired. Can it be said that there's been any type of development or growth with any of these characters since Season 1?
Spot-on post. Every word.
After the surgery I wanted to tell Marcel, “wipe that smile off your face, Nataloon will be proven right, no matter what.”
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It’s funny, last episode I made such a post about Rojas going nowhere and here they give her this episode. Guess what? She’s underused because she’s not very good. She has no acting range and I didn’t buy into any of her scenes. Her being fired would have been a better idea.
And while its true that they have been grooming Haley to be #2/Jr Voight, the interaction between Voight and Rojas on her fuckup and her past was vintage Lindsay. That point should have elevated Rojas on the show. It didn’t.
Not only is Atwater underused, Ruzek is playing the same supporting knit cap wearing nothing role every week with the occasional nothing spot on Fire. And Burgess, the Senior female agent with accomplishments greater than anyone on the squad, is basically used to stick perp pics on the whiteboard now.
Aaaaand Permasmirk. She has gone from Jr IA Miss Look Down Her nose at all of her coworkers Morality Queen... to planting evidence. When she was on the stairs and told Voight she did what she thought he’d wanted I thought he might backhand her. Then in his office I thought, “no Permasmirk, don’t say that’s what Voight would have...ugh.” What a clown. News Flash, Blondie, you aren’t Voight.
And Finally, Voight. Lots of people love to hate Voight here apparently. This guy will lay on the train tracks for his people. All I know is, in over 20 years working, I would have been thrilled to death to work in a squad under a guy like Voight. Actually, my first Supervisor was an Ex Chicago Transit Cop that reminds me a bit of Voight and he was the best I ever had.
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My wife and I just got caught up with Season 4 and watched the finale this week.
We love the show, but some things take longer to make sense and come around to us as we have never seen a single episode of BB, so a lot of the things discussed as common knowledge on the last 9 pages here are not always obvious when you watch this series as a true stand-alone. We were guessing they were building a tunnel for drug transport all this time, but I was corrected in this thread. Still we love BCS and will actually watch BB next.
I have a ton to comment on, but something that people kept talking about in this thread... Kim is absolutely gorgeous to some of us, FYI. I love her harsh, sharp features, her trim athletic look and her gaze that would rip a hole through you.
I think guys who aren’t comfortable with really bright and maybe too -aggressive women use the excuse that she’s too harsh to be attractive. Sorry man, she is smoking hot, end of story.
I think it really is an odd matchup with Jimmy, other than the fact that she clearly loves some of Jimmys dirty dealings and likes playing in that pool sometimes. A commonality of a personality trait like that is often a reason 2 people with disparate attractiveness levels wind up with each other as in this case.
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PS, I forgot... the obnoxious product placement of Under Armor gloves worn in close ups of no less than SIX Intelligence members wearing them!
And the even had different colored logos on the boy gloves from the girl gloves. Adorable. Hope they charged a lot.
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2 hours ago, Josh371982 said:
Agreed that Marina is the Queen SHE should be the lead female and I've liked her development. Also she doesnt have the my shit dont stink look on her face. Upton getting hypocritical with Rojas in the preview for Wednesday's ep had my eyes rolling
Rojas looks like an attempt to check a couple boxes (female, Hispanic ) but IMO her character has not developed at any level on this show so far. She’s not interesting, she offers nothing. At first she looked like a love interest for Atwater but that’s gone. She was actually a little bit interesting when first introduced, but she’s gone nowhere.
I agree that I actually miss Lindsay a little here in the days of Rojas and Permasmirk. I liked her inappropriate connection to Voight and her girlcop attitude. She reminds me of the girlcops I liked the most when I was working. But yeah, the badass routine is a little silly... she weighs 90 pounds soaking wet and they don’t teach you that much at the Academy where she could take down a 250 pound man, sorry. Even Burgess who I love more than the solar system, in between her physical victories has had her ass kicked 5 ways from Sunday in situations that yeah, should have turned out that way given the matchup.
Its too bad Lindsay the actress burned bridges with her stupid comments after leaving (“Chicago is soooo cold to shoot outside, wah”) as I wouldn’t mind a return there. I had all the Bunny I needed though.
Im also going to repeat my disappointment in the terrible underuse of Sgt Trudy, one of the brilliant characters on the show. Just because Burgess, Atwater and Roman aren’t in queue anymore is no reason to not introduce more interesting patrol officers and use their stories to continue giving Trudy the screen time she deserves.
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11 hours ago, Pearson80 said:
Your post is so true. I think Lindsey's empathy always made her character rootable in my opinion. Permasmurk is just an asshole and I cannot stand her. I don't know who is more repulsive Permasmurk or Saint Olivia from Law &Order SVU.
I love this comment at so many levels. St Olivia still infuriates me, and Permasmirk is my new favorite word.
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2 hours ago, Josh371982 said:
One thing I've noticed is how Upton is the first female listed in the cast. Must be nice to the fav of the Showrunner. I personally dont think Tracy deserves to be lead female but it's obvious Jay's female partner and next bedmate MUST BE LEAD FEMALE. Marina should be Female lead. But thankfully shes not Jay's female partner since he has to fuck his female partners. Also its eye roll worthy and gross that the Showrunner has to position Upton as "Female Voight" and also replace Lindsey in every way
Agree all around.
And there is no logical reason why Marina is not The Queen. End of story.
Really liked Voight’s punch. Not gratuitous- just a real reaction. Nice.
Oh, and while I hated to see the ex gang guy get pummeled like that, he totally asked for it multiple times. I’m surprised he and Atwater weren’t shot.
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On 3/18/2020 at 11:31 PM, LittleIggy said:
The naked guy made me laugh with his dancing! I’ll take any laugh I can get get these days.
Hermann is such an idiot. I loved how the Chief shut him down at the meeting and how everyone laughed at his stupid “office.”
Real Estate guy was a hottie.
Kinda wanted her to go out with him. He seemed like a nice guy and a good match for her. If she’s so hung up on Casey then date him for crying out loud.
That Bret is so attractive and sweet it’s absolutely ridiculous that she wouldn’t have 5 guys at a time waiting in line for a shot.
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It really was a reach that 5 unsubstantiated complaints by the same old bat that obviously were never fully investigated (DCFS Lady managed to find Casey but never got the full story from Old Bat? OK) resulted in an immediate seizure of the child in the hospital? C’mon.
Agree that the actions of the DCFS lady were impossible to follow (rush to take the kid, change her mind in an instant), but if anyone has actually worked with Illinois DCFS you wouldn’t be terribly surprised.
Casey and Severide sure have a lot of free time... can they open a Firefighter Supervisors Crimjnal Investigation Division to formally document all their wannabe cop/Social Worker activities?
The idiot in the play fort should be fired, period. He’s not a quirky interesting misunderstood guy, he’s a friggin’ moron with zero redeeming features. And, the only thing he is worse at than being a firefighter is being a parent.
Good for Severide to suggest Wendy. She seems like the perfect choice for the program, except that she came across at the beginning as someone who was rushed through the ranks as either a political favorite or simply Quota Female, not as someone that had been quickly promoted due to merit like say, Haley on PD. Wendy might be easily criticized from that perspective.
But Severide thinks it’s funny that Wendy has the hots for him, knows he has nothing to risk as he didn’t do anything and put her with his girlfriend because it was the right thing to do.
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Wasn’t a terrible episode except:
-when April painfully admitted THE KISS and Choi reacted like they had sex for 6 weeks while he was gone, it felt so very 7th grade.
-I actually liked the spin on the MBP diagnosis that’s so overused on TV (I actually called what was going to happen) but it was ruined by NataNutBag deciding that the MBP was wrong because she spent 5 minutes with the Mom and of course she knew better, scowled the whole time because she wasn’t right, then gleefully beamed when Dr Charles went with PTSD because she WAS right, as she ALWAYS is.
I cannot stand NataLoonatic on that show. I can’t believe how her character can make such a beautiful person so ugly.
15 hours ago, WinJet0819 said:I do hope that the rumor isn't spread that Crockett tried to break up April and Ethan, when in fact it was April that kissed him, and he stopped her right then and there. Natalie, obviously listening to the rumor mill, said he he tried to hit on April. And all this because April couldn't act like the grown-up she is and come clean right away. Drama for the sake of drama.
And in any real life hospital, Ethan would have been suspended, possibly arrested, since there were cops around. You're at the workplace, in the ICU, and you deck a guy for kissing your girl, when you don't have the clear story because you left when she was trying to explain what happened. Another reason I despise workplace romances in these shows. Too many times, the relationship drama is dragged into workplace.
Maybe it's good the season won't properly finish. I'm getting sick of the April-Ethan relationship. As others have said, why the push to have a baby before marriage?
When did Choi “deck” anyone?
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On 2/27/2020 at 12:44 PM, The Ringo Kidd said:
The problem is this is how Dick Wolf sees the police. As lawless vigilantes who break the law and murder with impunity. You know TV cops.
Most police are normal working class people trying to get through the day without hurting anyone or getting hurt themselves. The vast majority never even drawn their gyms let alone shoot three people an episode. The cops on Chicago PD actually meet the definition of serial killers. How many people have they shot down in the past few years? I would say every character other then the new girl have killed at least ten people. In the real world they would all be riding desks with that body count.
I look at these shows as basically politically correct science fiction.
What a post... it saved me so much typing.
The point is, Dick Wolf and his gang despise cops and has nothing to say other than a new way to unfairly, falsely depict them as mindless killers living a life of pure lawlessness, and hunting minorities in their spare time.
I wonder how a show depicting how cops really act would be received?
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On 2/27/2020 at 8:10 AM, mommalib said:
Sadly that's how it is in real life. You got law enforcement out here moving how ever they want to hell with the law that they are supposed to be upholding. And god help you if you black. I keep watching this show hoping that at some point these cops will be held accountable but with quotes like that I won't hold my breath. He sounds like a nut.
None of this is true, of course.
On 2/27/2020 at 12:17 PM, Pearson80 said:To be fair, this is how communities of color view the police in real life..
And yet when you are talking about real police in real life, it’s not all that accurate.
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On 2/22/2020 at 5:21 PM, HurricaneVal said:
Kasie was a grad student assistant, specifically tasked with keeping Ducky on track to finish his book. I believe she was hired for that job because she had a broad background in criminalistics and forensic science so she could help intelligently with the book, and was brilliant at keeping Ducky on task. I'll give you that she didn't have years and years of experience before getting her own lab at NCIS, but she's no rank amateur lacking experience or knowledge.
The Kasie character has grown in me. I like that she's really taking ownership of her lab and forging her own relationship with The Gibbs.
I agree on Kasie, but for me the biggest development was that lunatic on crack act she was putting on in her first couple episodes... I stopped watching the show because of her. Came back recently and noticed she had completely knocked it off, like she was on meds or something. I couldn’t stand her on screen before; now she does her job and isn’t any sort of problem.
Im also thinking that Abbey was supposed to be a bit of a legend in her day, but like most legends, the field and the kids in it “catch up” and a lot of those who replace you do things a bit easier. It’s normal evolution, whether it’s a job, an athlete or whatever. Thing aren’t quite so revolutionary as they were in Abbeys day.
On 2/20/2020 at 1:51 PM, basiltherat said:Palmer is becoming quite dishy and less nerdy.
Palmer continues to be the weakest, most difficult to watch aspect of the show. He’s just horrible.
Although now that Jack just married her girlfriend in real life, it’s very difficult to buy into the Jack ‘n Gibbs rumors and innuendo. Just stop.
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I hate this show because of the pretend superfans and the rigged results.
And I knew it was rigged for V Unbeatable from the beginning.
But Angelina Jordan’s talent is so far and away on a different ZIP code than the other nine acts, its laughable she wasn’t at least second to the anointed ones.
But not even top 5 ? Screw this “show.”
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9 hours ago, Ohwell said:
This was the mid season finale, there's more to come.
I know that. It still did not deliver.
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Well, I share many of the thoughts posted here, good job everyone. And that article from Forbes (thanks for posting that) captures much of what I think as well.
It seems the entire episode is intended to cause as much confusion and doubt about what is real and what is not as possible. “Dallas” indeed. I guess it’s the shows way of being artsy, and I usually like an artistic twist, but I found the finale annoying. I’ve liked this season much better than last, but I felt let down by the (mid season) finale, a dropped ball to me.
I won’t get into all the logical issues here and chalk them up to possible dreams until they clarify. Some of the things that bug me though:
-why would Hvitserk get within a million miles of the person that burned his wife alive, causing him to go inane and addicted to drugs?
-What is the deal with Tatya? Does she really look like Ivars Ex? How would Oleg know that? Why am I not caring?
-The legendary Bjorn isn’t very good at... anything. He sucks at these battles. And planning. And women. He is responsible for letting the person go who killed his mother and let Ivar get away only to return and attack him. He is the biggest letdown on the show.
-Heartbreaking scene with Gunnehild. From a character’s point of view, she didn’t seem to give the slightest thought to her baby’s welfare before that, so losing him wasn’t a real shocker. The actress, though, fine, fine work, a great scene. I don’t see her accent as different from most every other actor on this program. I just wish she was a little better looking for that part... the character could be larger than life.
-Forbes referred to the “unnecessary rape scene.” I think this sentiment is unnecessary pandering. The scene showed exactly who Harold was and exactly what he thought his chances were for survival. It was a rough moment, but belonged in the story.
-Speaking of Harold, I don’t like the character at all, but how is it this little guy cannot buy a girlfriend? I mean, he’s not troll-like looking, he’s a fine warrior, he was a king, and then King of all Norway.. and he spend the entire series brooding over the fact that he can’t find a chick to take to the dance. Seriously? It seems every plebe on the show finds a mate someplace. His idea of romance is kidnapping a homely lesbian, pining away for Bjorns shieldmaiden wife who happens to be 2 feet taller than him, and rapes Bjorns backup wife. I’m thinking this guy could easily find a female willing to ignore his warts and sit on the throne next to him without all the gymnastics.
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Not related to the current show, but last night I watched that Taylor Swift bio on Netflix just to kill some time while working out. When seeing her as a teen pheenom, it reminded me of Simon saying when he first heard Grace vanderwal that she reminded him of a young Taylor Swift. I thought at that time that this was a momentous comment by an industry giant.
So reflecting back today, and thinking about Simons constant shameless plugging of decidedly mediocre acts, the kid with the fiddle being the latest -not to mention stealing Howies Golden Buzzer to send through that horrible Star Wars dance group, I think Simon’s rep as an industry genius and starmaker and ability to recognize talent is a bit of fake news, frankly.
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11 hours ago, DaphneCat said:
I don't think how they announce the results has anything to do with the voting other than the two the judges decide between. So for the results, they could have had the first place person/group and the last place both step forward. It doesn't mean they were close to each other in votes.
I know that. I didn’t intend for my comment to suggest that.
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4 hours ago, Lonesome Rhodes said:
The coupling of the act styles for results was quite telling. Is it the case that the votes were taken between them and that the overall vote positioning was ignored? The odds that everything fell so neatly by category are prohibitive.
Strongly agree with this point. “Hey look, that comedian went through and that didn’t.” “Huh, 2 physical acts in, 2 out.” Very neat little groupings, that were oddly noticeable. Wonder how next week’s will be?
Just the suggestion that mysterious unnamed “superfans” are voting somewhere in a short window of time and coming up with neat little category results... well... it’s a little insulting.
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On 2/2/2020 at 8:58 AM, Sterling said:
Interesting. Yeah, agreed.... if there are only 2 teams in their division, then it's misleading, like you said, holding up all those trophies. Hmmm.
OK, found an article that explains it:
There are only 2 colleges that compete in Navarro's division.
But....they've won 6 Grand National Championships, which is a cumulative total of points higher than ANY college or university.
23 hours ago, Whimsy said:Yes. that is all correct. There were only two teams in their division so winning their division alone isn't super impressive EXCEPT they won Grand Champs several times- which is the highest score of the entire competition. Those competitions have hundreds of teams so that IS impressive.
Absolutely impressive. The program is elite, Id never debate that.
Although even in the case of Grand Championships, if all of the “hundreds” of competitors have their final scores compared and the Grand Champion winner is the one with the highest score, if all the competitors were not all judged by the same judges, theres a gaping credibility hole there. There’s a laundry list of problems there. If all the class winners were pitted against one another in a Grand Championship round, and you had a winner, then perfect. But if a team that got a 98.99 from Sue and Bob and they won the GC over a team that got a 98.10 from Fred and Mary, well...
And watching the series, there was zero emphasis on the GC. Every word was about beating the team down the street, winning the division and jumping into the ocean. I just assumed you had plenty of teams to beat and that team down the street was just considered the best of them.
In this case although I never support poor sportsmanship, I can see why a kid losing at Daytona in 2017 would feel like they were a total failure. It’s all or nothing.
But, not picking on them. I just hate the glaring weaknesses of judging events. They are clearly an elite program and their record is spectacular. And Monica is a friggin’ stud. (Shes hot, too)
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All fair points. I still think Voight’s transfer of Haley is something Goodwin would never have the guts to do. Nat and Will could each be fired because Goodwin never did them the favor of correcting them. Boden would do that, I think. But I see how someone would prefer her to Voight, who could as you say easily have been to jail a million years ago. (Oh that’s right, he was.) Personally as a former LEO, I’d love to work for Voight. That’s the guy I want having my back.