BlueMoon81

One of the many hypocritical facets of Carrie's personality (and why she was never a favorite of mine) This is what I never understood. She's a sex columnist, in one of the most diverse cities on Earth (in terms of sexuality and sexual expression). Yet she was such a prude...and also borderline biphobic and homophobic. Made absolutely ZERO sense

KC's decision to pass on this show, looks more brilliant by the day/week/month. It's clear that SJP, Michael Patrick King, etc put AJLT out as both a money grab and to prove that SATC could "thrive" without KC and Samantha Jones. Predictably (to those of us paying attention).... they've failed. The writing is reminiscent of the second movie--characters regressing instead of progressing, insulting cultural stereotypes, etc. Except this time around, they don't have KC's wonderful comedic timing to paper over SOME of the horrid writing

Having watched the show when it originally aired, THIS episode nearly made me stop watching. I didn't even have a problem with Sam (as I loved the chemistry with her and Chivon, and he was one of the few men she encountered who wasn't intimidated by her independence and sexuality)...my problem with the episode was everything else. Adina as the "angry Black woman" stereotype, the looks of aghast by the girls when Sam announced she was seeing Chivon (Charlotte immediately fetishizing Chivon and Carrie's NAUSEATING "talk about Affirmative Action" line 🙄), etc. As a Black SATC fan, that episode was highly insulting I remember thinking when Blair Underwood's character was introduced in Season 6, "if they treat him like they did Chivon in Season 3, I'm done with the show". Thankfully, the writers and producers learned their lesson somewhat from by the time Dr Robert Leeds hit the canvas

That's why I LOVED Sam telling Richard just that, right then and there "If I were a guy, you would've shaken my hand, bought me a Scotch and given me a key to an office." Of all the ladies, I love that they showed Sam facing workplace misogyny, and her dealing with it IMMEDIATELY in the moment

God I bought those DVDs (bought the seasons separately) around the time of the first movie...and I was SO PISSED when they started defecting. I thought it was something I did myself—I tried various modes of cleaning, even bought s new DVD player...and still some of them didn’t work. Glad to know I wasn’t the only one with that issue

It took me YEARS to find that amazing score! Someone on YouTube told me about it maybe 2-3 years ago. That melody is amazing and "One" is definitely one of my all time favorite episodes. LOVE when Charlotte, despite being in grief, watches a bio of Elizabeth Taylor and picks herself up, gets dressed (and looks AMAZING) and walks down the street like she owns it. That episode was terrific

That's one of my favorite scenes of the show. Carrie was in a complete shitstorm of her own making, yet Sam wasn't gonna give a scintilla of judgement to her friend. Not only did Carrie judge Sam terribly in that episode, she did it REPEATEDLY throughout the show. When Sam informed the girls she was getting back with Richard, Carrie said "here's a title for the column....Desperate Women who will Believe Anything."--i never recall Sam judging Carrie when she got back with Aidan. And even in that Worldwide Express guy episode, Carrie tried to slip in the "no she just signs the delivery sheet and sends him on his way", as some kind of THINLY veiled shady "joke" at Sam. Sam should've shot back "So should I have browsed through his fridge until his wife came home and then ran out like a coward???". Carrie was THE MOST Judgmental character on the show for me

I hadn't realized just how vomit-inducing Carrie was in Season 5 until this thread made me think about it. The Nina Katz episode, the Atlantic City episode, the one where he brow beats Sam into coming to her book release party (only to take multiple shots at Sam's chemical peel mishap), the hypocritical judgment of Sam during the whole 'Worldwide Express delivery guy blowjob' fiasco, etc. She really is BAD that season One thing is for sure, in order for "And Just Like That" to be any kind of hit with the audience, SJP is gonna have to make some real changes to Ms Carrie Bradshaw--if she thinks the judgey, pretentious, self-centered, version of Carrie from the series (who displayed strangely non-progressive views on the sexual spectrum and sexuality in general) is gonna be a hit with the viewing demographic of the 2020s....she's in for a rude awakening

I love Sam's character arc throughout the show. One of the myths is that Sam was "commitment-phobic" and was only about sex--not true. Sam had MULTIPLE serious relationships on the show. I LOVED her and James--their first date at the Jazz club, how he walked her home and she didn't invite him up (KC had some fantastic acting in that episode), how she randomly blurted out "I miss James!" in Season 2 when the girls where singing "The Way We Were", etc. I certainly enjoyed watching Sam's relationships play out on screen as opposed to Carrie's Sam's character embodied what I felt the message of the show was--that women don't HAVE TO want marriage/family to feel fulfilled in life, and can live their lives on their own terms

Oh that Nina Katz episode...Carrie was so ridiculous in that episode. I love the Sam/Miranda storyline in that episode, and LOVE how they both bring Carrie back down to reality while she's complaining about Nina Katz (like an insecure 13 year old). I also LOVE how Stanford checks her whining and reminds Carrie that she has never once asked him about his new relationship with Marcus. Episodes like this (where MULTIPLE other characters check Carrie's selfishness IN THE MOMENT) needed to happen more often

That is one of my most FAVORITE scenes! Miranda re-enacting the dipping with her hands, Sam tasting her pudding afterwards and saying "Mmm Delicious" 😂 I also love when Sam, Miranda and Carrie are at Steve's bar opening, and Sam is talking about how she threw her back out using a strap-on with Maria...and Miranda wants to know how it works 😂

That Chivon/Sam episode pissed me off more than any other on the show. It did when I watched it in 2000/2001 and it still does today. I loved Sam/Chivon's chemistry, and I LOVED how he wasn't intimidated by Sam's independence or sexuality. Sam even asked him to spend the day at her place with her (which she NEVER did). What I HATED was how Carrie made that CRINGEWORTHY "Talk about Affirmative Action" line when Sam and Chivon were flirting, Charlotte fetishizing Chivon when Sam was originally going to say he had a big HEART, etc. This was 2000/2001 in NYC, and the girls were acting like it was 1930s Tennessee or something. As a Black fan of the show, it was very insulting to watch. I remember when Season 6 was airing and Blair Underwood came on the show...I distinctly thought to myself "if they do Blair Underwood like they did Chivon...I'm done watching the show." The way the girls rarely encountered non-white people IN NEW YORK CITY was ridiculous (then and now) And whenever the girls seemed to encounter non-white people, it was in service roles (the Pakastani bus boy who kissed Sam when her date flaked on her, the Asian maid of the guy Sam was dating, the Black woman who was Carrie's chauffeur from her Book Party, etc). I'm not saying the show was intentionally racist, but you could tell it was written, produced and directed by an all-white behind the scenes crew

Miranda/Sam are my favorite friendship dynamic on the show. I love how they shoot straight with each other with absolutely zero judgment. And most times, they can just say a 3 or 4 word phrase to each other and "get it" (like when Miranda informs the girls she's pregnant via Steve and Sam replies "Mercy Fuck??" and Miranda just nods 😂) I HATE that Atlantic City episode, specifically because Carrie is SO INTOLERABLE in it. Charlotte should've knocked Carrie on her ass at some point during that vacation Those screams didn't start until Season 3 or 4 I believe, which was when SJP's Exec Producer role behind the scenes was really being felt on the show. She must've thought those screeches were quirky and cute...but it was truly annoying in my opinion THIS precisely describes why Carrie has ALWAYS been my least favorite character. She devolves during the series. I think if they hadn't given SJP behind the scenes power as Exec Producer, the writers would've had the freedom to write the character FAR BETTER than they did

Anyone have a Least Favorite Season?? Mine has ALWAYS been Season 3 (HATED IT when the show was airing and still hate it to this day). It has SEVERAL of my most despised episodes (“Boy Girl, Boy Girl...which showcases Carrie’s revolting views of non-heterosexuality; the episode with Sam and Chivon for many reasons (One of them NOT being Chivon and Sam’s chemistry); the revolting audacity of Carrie to pretend to be the victim during the whole affair with Big; etc). A lot of fans love that Season, I personally DESPISE it

The Trey and Charlotte discussions are always very interesting to me. I personally don’t think that Trey was a bad guy in the slightest—he was sweet (in his own way), kind, and would never intentionally hurt a hair on Charlotte’s head. He just wasn’t the right guy for her at the end of the day. I love that the show held them up as an example that just because a marriage ends, doesn’t mean that one party has to be the “good guy” and the other the “bad guy”. It provided some wonderful balance on the show, juxtaposed to Carrie’s dramas and ETERNAL NEED to be seen as “the injured, unknowing, naive victim” of whomever she broke up with

Or a woman in her 40s who can’t be considerate enough to her Fiancé to think about how a huge wedding would make them feel. A wedding is supposed to be a couple thing—not one person in that pairing pretending it’s their grand coronation. And let’s also not pretend that Big jilted her at the altar—he had last minute stage fright about getting married in a big pomp&circumstance wedding...then immediately snapped back into his senses. It’s not like he was regretting marrying Carrie period (if that were the case, they wouldn’t have gotten married at the film’s conclusion). I just have zero sympathy for Carrie, especially when the writing goes over the top in portraying her as the “wronged party” Ugh the writing for the films was just soooooo stupid, designed to make certain characters as the “bad people” who needed to be “redeemed”

I don’t get what Big did “wrong” at the Hamptons party, and never have. I understand Carrie’s feelings of shock and disappointment, but Big didn’t do anything wrong by getting into a relationship with Natasha—he and Carrie were broken up, and they hadn’t even been in contact in at least a couple of months (time for him to go to Paris, his deal to fall through and to meet Natasha). Should he have asked Carrie’s permission to date someone new, before he did?? He didn’t even know Carrie would be at that Hamptons party, and certainly didn’t plan to introduce her to Natasha in that awkward way. This is what I mean about the mythology of the show, in terms of Big. Carrie is the one who broke it off with Big. I get that seeing the ex with a new person is rough (I’ve been there before too), but the ex isn’t to blame for me being uncomfortable with them finding someone new...I am The only time that Big was an asshole to Carrie in my opinion was during his heart surgery recovery in “Domino Effect”...oh and when he tried to show up at her front stoop when she was about to have her last dinner in NYC before moving to Paris. And I’ve NEVER understood the narrative of Big “being afraid of committing to Carrie”—weren’t they in a monogamous relationship?? Didn’t they spend the night over each other’s places routinely?? Didn’t he tell her that he loved her?? He never cheated on her or anything either. So how did he have a phobia of commitment with Carrie?? I’ve always thought Carrie had a phobia of commitment to sanity and emotional maturity, to be honest

For me, I don’t think Bea “hated” Betty, so much as just they didn’t get along. I think they had two distinctly different personalities, and they just didn’t mesh—it happens. I also don’t think that being buddies with Betty White should be the litmus test as to whether or not you’re a decent person. Bea lost the role of Maude on Broadway to Angels Lansbury (a role Bea wanted DESPERATELY to play), and the two women became lifelong friends. As for the writing on the show, Bea got the sharpest end of the stick in terms of her physical appearance being made fun of—even by Rose. The show went WAY TOO FAR in having every character act like Dorothy was a swamp creature who ate people’s faces for lunch

I actually enjoyed Big. I think the mythology of the show doesn’t line up with what I saw happen on screen. The mythology of the show is that Big was some master puppeteer who toyed with the emotions of victim Carrie. What I saw play out on screen was Carrie being childishly insecure about Big’s ex wife (including wasting his ex wife’s time by pitching an imaginary book idea to her); Carrie trying to force Big to introduce her to his mother (after he explicitly told her that he had to do that on his own time); her breaking up with him over not being immediately told “you’re the one” in that exact moment; her punching Big in the face because he accidentally rolled her out of bed IN HIS SLEEP; her acting like a complete loon when he said he might have to go to Paris for a couple months for a business deal, etc. The Affair was them BOTH being a complete mess (and Carrie pretending she was a victim/forced into the situation *eye roll*), etc. I think Big just communicated differently than Carrie—not everyone communicates in the high drama, insecure, adolescent way that Carrie does I’m a big GG fan, and I find myself enjoying the episodes just as much as when the show came out as well. The writing was/is some of the best ever on television. They NEVER made one of the characters whiny, a TERRIBLE friend, and never held accountable...unlike SATC did with Carrie (I watched SATC when it originally aired, and I felt the same about Carrie then as well). I truly think that SJP getting the Exec Producer slot during Season 2 was a BAD move for the show....Carrie was allowed to say whatever she wanted to her friends and NEVER be held accountable in the moment (mocking Miranda for seeing a therapist, the endless judging/slut shaming of Samantha, bullying of Charlotte at various times, etc). GG never had one of the lead actresses calling the shots behind the scenes

That’s another reason I wasn’t very high on Steve/Miranda. Steve would brow-beat Miranda into “compromising”, just to get his way—the house in Brooklyn, cuddling all day on Saturday (I love cuddling with my significant other, but that just wasn’t Miranda’s thing), and even getting a puppy (Scout)....despite Miranda initially doing ALL of the work with caring for Scout. The only time Miranda was “allowed to” stand firm in her convictions by the writers, was when Steve wanted a baby in Season 3. I was so happy that Miranda stood her ground and said NO. But what do ya know, they had Miranda get accidentally pregnant by Steve in Season 4 anyways *eye roll*

I HATED Carrie in that Atlantic City episode—she was such a raging bitch to Charlotte throughout it. I love how Charlotte let her hair down, put on a revealing outfit, and felt totally comfortable in her sexuality in public for once—only for idiot Carrie to cockblock her. Then there was the scene where they were talking on the Boardwalk and Carrie again was snarky and nasty to Charlotte for no reason. I seriously wanted to see Charlotte stuff Carrie’s head into the Atlantic Ocean 🙄🙄 THANK YOU! How difficult would it be for them to have one of the girls say they just had a fantastic Zoom or FaceTime with Sam and that she sends her love and is doing PR for a random celeb?? Or incorporate a new woman to the friend circle (slowly)?? This re-cast is gonna be a mess

I actually really loved Robert/Miranda. I thought they had electric chemistry, and I loved how sweet Robert was with her—whether doctoring her through the chicken pox, watching (and loving) Jules & Mimi with her, or surprising her by cooking for her when she came home from work. I thought it would’ve been a powerful narrative to have her and Steve end up with partners they fit with perfectly, while being great co-parents at the same time—that’s a narrative we don’t often see in tv/film (the parents either have to end up “happily ever after” or be bitter enemies) I loved Steve the way that he was when he was first introduced. Although him dumping Miranda over his own insecurities REALLY soured me on the character. Miranda took a chance and opened up her heart to him (after being very clear how often she had been hurt by past relationships)...only for him to dump her over something so stupid as “she makes more money than me”. When the writers got them back together in Season 3, Steve was full-on man-child, and I was over them as a couple

I actually liked Carrie’s apartment makeover—brighter colors, great furniture, and a better layout I definitely enjoyed the first movie better overall over the second (although the writing for both movies had major flaws for me)...the 2nd film I’ll watch when I’m in the mood for some “good, bad tv”. It’s horribly written, but I can still find enjoyment out of some parts, just because they’re so bad

The main thing that really irks me about the SATC films, is how poorly they are written. The first film is far better than the 2nd, but the first film has glaring writing flaws as well. The whole “Steve cheats on Miranda” storyline was soooo contrived and stupid. There were several ways they could’ve given Miranda/Steve marital strife that didn’t involve infidelity—Miranda’s workaholic schedule, Steve wanting another child, one of them going through career crisis due to the Great Recession that was happening around that time, etc...Instead, they go the lazy route and have Steve sleep with someone else. It was only a one-nighter, but still—it was soooo unnecessary and totally out of character for Steve to do. He would NEVER cheat on Miranda, as opposed to opening up a dialogue about the problems they were having

I never said that KC won more GG than SJP, I said that KC was the most popular character on the show around that time, and she was. As for who won more Awards, a lot of that is politics—KC (and CN for that matter) can act circles around SJP in my opinion. KC is a classically trained actress who’s starred on Broadway and the West End in London...If the awards were given on actual merit/acting skill, KC would have won for every year of the show, as her character had far more depth and pathos than Carrie Bradshaw did...in my opinion. i vividly remember Ted Casablanca saying in 2003—“the show is supposed to be about Carrie...but Samantha is the one that people remember, Samantha is the one that people tune in to see”. I think SJP and MPK were acutely aware of that fact...and gave Samantha storylines that mocked her appearance and age as a result