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It shocks me that she's still married.

The woman who was on the number one spot for worst bridezilla, did she get divorced? My recording got cut off.

Personally, I don't see Whit going through with weight loss surgery. It takes time and dedication to make that lifestyle change and Whit can't even be bothered to take photos of her food. That and Whit doesn't like anything that involves pain or sacrifice even when it could benefit her. For example, the Hawaii trip. Do the marathon and get a free trip to a tropical paradise. She didn't have to run, only finish it and before she sets off, she complains about foot problems that we've never heard about before and well, you saw how it ended.

This is a great question and I've been going crazy trying to figure out how to answer it. I feel that I should remind everyone on this forum that diagnosing HPD is extremely difficult due to the following facts: 1. People who have this disorder rarely go in for help and 2. Symptoms are rarely as clear-cut as Dot has so wonderfully stated. It may take months before a comprehensive diagnosis can be provided and that's with a trained and capable psychologist. We know that Whit has/currently is seeing someone but for what, I don't know. It could be for a variety of things but let's say on the basis of speculation, it's for depression. Whit wouldn't choose a psychologist that handles personality disorders but focuses on depression. So, they might miss some of the red flags but it's not their fault. For example, jumping into shallow relationships could be for a boost in self-esteem as can a grandiose appearance or seductive behavior. That's what the psychologist may see depending on their training and resources (Seriously, you guys wouldn't believe what some tests cost. These things can get expensive!). However, I need to say this, it's not the psychologists' fault and I think this saying works well, "If you hear hoofbeats, you'll think of horses, not zebras". You would choose someone who would help you with the problem that you are facing, not one whose field has nothing to do with what you're going through. A person who suffers from addiction isn't likely to seek help from a child psychologist. Choosing a psychologist or any healthcare professional should never be done in haste and I say this as someone who knows the horrors of the mental health system. People can get hurt and lives can be ruined. So let's say that Whit's current psychologist is helping her work through her problems. It takes so much time to build up the necessary level of trust for someone to freely speak their true feelings. Usually, when someone meets a mental health professional, they're scared and shy. On the first meeting, it's an explanation of what the psychologist can and can't do, everyone's expectation from therapy, rules that are set up, and general questions that the patient might have. From there, future meetings will be focused on what the patient wants to discuss. It's the psychologist's job to help track progress, introduce new tools, and to steer the conversation and to keep it on track. It doesn't surprise me that Whit's been seeing a psychologist on the regular if she's been suffering from depression since adolescence but if she's been seeing the same one? That's not right. Granted, that all mental health professionals want to help patients, if after this many years the patient is still coming to you on regular weekly visits then something is wrong. Patients need to be able to work without the help of their psychologist. We give them the tools they need and they need to be able to live their lives without having to keep coming back for support. It sounds cruel I know but it's true. Now, if by some impossible chance that Whit is seeing someone for HPD. Learning to set up healthy boundaries is going to be a massive undertaking and it would take years. People who have this disorder don't know what boundaries are and if it's bad enough, they might hit on the psychologist, regardless of their sexual orientation which raises a host of problems on their own. How can you set healthy boundaries if you don't respect the boundaries of the therapy session? See, with people who have HPD, being blunt about their sex life (both real and imaginary) is a way to get attention. Most of us, I imagine, talk about their sex life with their partner, their doctor, maybe their close friends but with Whit, it's a way to shock and awe. It's one of the ways that she stands out. But no one is shocked by women kissing, someone going on a "date" with their "cousin", or considering adoption. We've got other things to be scandalized by. It would take one hell of a psychologist with a cool personality and a steel backbone to not be bullied or shocked by Whit. For the minute that the psychologist allows Whit's overbearing personality to take over the session, then it's over. You can't lose control of the session. Sorry about the long post again!

First, may I say excellent question and second, hello Dot! I love your posts on Whit. They're always great. Under the guidance of the right therapist, a personality disorder can be managed. Emotions can be brought under control, thought patterns can be altered, and behavior which at one time were harmful can be changed to socially accepted or even positive ones but I don't dare say the word cured when it comes to personality disorders. Granted, that there is some dissension in psychological fields as to whether personality disorders can be cured or not but I am in the camp that they can not. Please note that many of the disagreements come from which style of therapy that one practices or follows. For example, those who follow Skinner's path often say yes, anyone who follows Freud says no (but many of Freud's studies have been rendered useless and there are hardly any hardcore followers that practice only Freudian style and that many psychologists blend styles and approaches in order to best help those who need it). But as a someone who is in the Humanist camp and prefers the works Gestalt, I'm going to say no. As corny as it sounds, change has to come from within. A psychologist, or psychiatrist in Whit's case if her therapist is prescribing medication, may give her all the tools she needs to change herself but if she doesn't use them then it's useless. See, when it comes to disorders like this, people never really "get over" it, they just get better coping mechanisms and learn to think in a different way. Besides, a true and honest personality change is rare. Everyone's personality starts from the second that they are introduced to the world (I do recognize that the development in the womb can affect the child's personality a la drug or alcohol abuse but for the sake of brevity I'm skimming over that). From what they see and experience, they incorporate and use and that becomes who they are. We're not talking about changing someone's mind on how they act on a specific matter or circumstance but how they act as a whole! It is essentially undoing who that person truly is and that's a tall order and not one that I would imagine would even stick.

On the contrary, I believe that she cares very much so. Why else would she warp her face until it was unrecognizable or attack anyone who dares to offer the slightest bit of critique? She's on the defense. She's ALWAYS out to prove to everyone that her life is, in fact, fabulous, that she's living life to the fullest, that she's healthy, that she's in some strange way, a person to be idealized for speaking out against her haters both real and imaginary. Now, as to whether or not Whit suffers from a psychological disorder or trauma, it's difficult to say. We do know for a fact, as both her mother, her father, and even Whit herself have all said that she was never said no to when growing up. So, right off the bat, we have the development of an unhealthy ego. To push the matter even farther, Whit seems to have zero concept of boundaries. We saw the way she grabs anyone she deems attractive and how she harassed Lenny when he didn't answer her phone calls. And I need mention how Todd (?) was forced to apply lotion to her, for lack of a better word, crevasse? Some of these instances may be excused for higher ratings but we've seen Whit and have heard testimonials from her friends that Whit has a history of making everything about her. Even when Ashley's (?) baby was due, Ashley (Sorry, guys the barnacles warp to together after a while.) expressed the fear that Whit would make it about her. Her behavior is nothing new to her friends and everything she does to push the spotlight back on her suggests that her actions are par for the course when you know her. But to raise the possibility that Whit suffers from Histrionic Personality Disorder is a complicated matter and I say this as someone who not only studies psychology but holds a degree in it. To give a quick rundown, there are three clusters of Histrionic Personality Disorder: A, B, and C. Each cluster carries their own sub-cluster and highlights the different aspect of how someone may, antisocial, borderline, narcissistic, etc. to name a few. Today, we'll be looking into the Narassicitic sub-cluster. For verbatim from the DSM-5, "Typical features of narcissistic personality disorder are variable and vulnerable self-esteem, with attempts at regulation through attention and approval seeking, and either overt or covert grandiosity." On its face, this description could fit a number of people. After all, who hasn't sought attention and approval through acts both big and small? Everyone's got an ego and egos must be fed sooner or later. But with people who suffer from Narassicitic Disorder, whom may I add almost never see or receive help from a trained and licensed psychologist due to the tricky nature of diagnosing it, have it in two ways; A: The Level of Functioning Personality and B: Pathological Personality Traits. With moderate or greater impairment in two or more sections in level A, Identity, Self-Direction, Empathy, and Intimacy, the sufferer may have emotional regulation in the extremes, set goals based on approval of others/set personal standards as too high or low based on a sense of entitlement, have an impaired ability to recognize and identify with feelings and needs of others, and have relationships that are largely superficial and exist to serve self-esteem regulation. We have seen Whit go from happy to sad like a pendulum swing, her goals are generally abstract (With this I meant that she changes her desires so damn quickly that I've given up on keeping track much with her barnacles), her ability to realize that other people have problems like Ashley with her baby and that New York trip where one of them stormed off for feeling hurt, and finally jumping from relationship to relationship to prove that she is wanted sexually and is found desirable by both men and woman. However, this is all speculation and I leave to you dear reader to make of it what you will, for everything that I see from Whit's show and social media is focused on HER. Where, of course, her exploits will be exploited for her fans, show, and store. Furthermore, I can't be certain without running extensive personality tests and having multiple one-on-one therapy sessions. The camera has a funny way of making people act like an ass. If Whit doesn't have a personality disorder then what we see before us is an otherwise normal person who's never been given a timeout before act outrageously. If she does then well...I don't know what to say. There's no cure, no magic pill for it. Medication may help with the mood swings or depression that is often felt but it's a personality disorder. Sorry for the long post everyone! Psychology is my thing and I love to analyze it.

The lotion scene, as far as I'm concerned, was done by Whit to humilate her friend. She's disgusting. She called him up with the express purpose of going where no one should go. I hope he got therapy for it.

She's got to have a limit. There's only so much humiliation that a single person can take.

So, everyone has those moments when they're lying in bed and think back to that awkward thing they did like a lifetime ago, right? Those unbearable moments where we messed up or did something embarrassing? I keep thinking back to Whit's ski failure and I find myself thinking, "That footage is never going away," and I wonder if it keeps her up at night. It's not one of her more catty or obnoxious moments but you would have thought that it would have been like a wake-up call or something for her, you know? Crying while begging someone to help you up because you can't move isn't or at least, doesn't qualify as a fabulous life for me. I would have thought that after that ski fiasco, she would have gotten serious about losing some weight. It wouldn't have to be a lot but enough that if you fall, you can pick yourself back up. I saw the recap about the season where Whit explains herself away but it felt and seemed stilted to me. I wonder what she really thinks about that moment.

It really does and now I can't unsee it. She looks warped. If you sharp-eyed guys can see it, then Whit has to too. It's whether she acknowledges it that matters.

You did better than me cause I glanced at it and thought it said, "Nobody eats my ass". I choked on my drink.

I wonder where the show's going to go from here. They've exhausted pretty much every tacky plot. And don't even try to sell me the bull that Whit's going to go for motherhood and make a happy family with whatever barnacle is currently hanging onto her. She doesn't work, she doesn't want to get healthy, she doesn't do anything. What could she do? Advocate for the HAES movement?

Honestly, I think Whitney's put herself into a corner. She's built her show, her fanbase, and pretty much everything else around one central thing: Her Weight. If not for the fact that she is morbidly obese and has a "mildly" interesting life (I use the word interesting lightly here, folks), she wouldn't have a show. So, she can't lose weight because she would lose her fans who have bought into the mantra of "Beauty at Any Size" and if she keeps gaining well, neither the world nor the human body are built for 600 pound frames. Being that overweight hurts. Listen to anyone who's on My 600 pound Life and they will not sugar coat the fact that being that overweight not only hurts but it's miserable to be that way. Everything that they want to do whether it's spending time with their kids or something as simple as putting on shoes, they can't do because of their weight. For Whitney, whom we've already seen that she can't shave her legs, put on shoes, and if she falls down, she's not getting back up again without some help. On some level, Whitney knows that the life she's leading isn't "Fabulous " but what can she do? Losing weight is hard and being overweight is her entire claim to fame. So, she does what knows best, she plays dramatics. Someone telling her that she should consider losing weight? Ah, they're fat-shaming her. Someone tells her that her behavior is atrocious? That's cyber-bullying and they want her dead. It's a defense mechanism called deflection. People won't focus on her being overweight if she distracts everyone to her supposed "haters" who want her dead. For example, her dad wants her to run a race? She turns it back on him for lying about how long the race really was. If she can't complete the race, then it's not because of her weight but because she didn't "train" for a race that long. Whitney does this to get out of anything that makes her look bad. You see it all the time with people who struggle with addiction.

She does know that TV isn't forever, right? Even the best shows take their leave. Frankly, I see the future season as a waste. She doesn't have a stable job (other than making TV), she's admitted that she doesn't want to lose weight, and the last time I checked, stalking your ex-roommate whose trying to stay sober is a sad route to go for romance.

*Rim Shot* Sorry, I couldn't resist. Hi! Long time lurker, first-time poster.